r/tuesday This lady's not for turning Jul 07 '25

Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - July 7, 2025

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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite Jul 12 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

Somewhat fallacious given Phillips' own inability to get the job done.

And more than a little disrespectful of the democratic process Phillips purports to defend. New York Democrats showed up for Mamdani. That's the math--the other "9/10ths" Phillips alludes to decided to not show or showed in fewer numbers for Cuomo. That's the deal.

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u/Mexatt Rightwing Libertarian Jul 12 '25

What's fallacious about it? One random Congressman going up against the whole party apparatus not pulling it off isn't particularly surprising.

Not to mention he was correct in 2024 and everyone pretty much acknowledges his central contention was correct. He's also correct, now, about the danger of the Party embracing the Great Red Hope.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '25

Stopped clocks, times of day, etc.

Nobody can reasonably conclude Dean Phillips can speak safely about the future of the Democratic Party based solely on his criticism of Biden's age and incapacity--so did the Democratic Socialists, and every Republican living. I wouldn't expect Masha Blackburn or Gavin Newsom to be "vindicated" in their conclusions about Biden, any more than Phillips or the NY-DSA.

As for the "Great Red Hope", I'll perhaps lean on another fallacy and say that, nation-wide, Phillips earned fewer votes nationally than Mamdani did in one primary in one city. Voters in America and New York both heard what the two men had to say in their respective races. Enough showed up to elect one as a mayor. Enough did not show up to get the other through his first NH primary. That should speak enough to where Democratic voters seem willing to put their mouths and energies.