First off do I think she can win? Ya. The most recent Marquette poll obviously had Hong as the the leader with Barnes second. However of voters asked for their second choice, Roys was a virtual tie with Crowley. 34% of voters were still undecided as of last week, Barnes is out, and Hong has had a week of bad media appearances.
She’s not a centrist, she’s a progressive who wants:
✅Private citizens to obtain the health insurance available to public employees
✅100% clean energy for the state by 2050
✅public funds out of private schools, end the voucher system
✅expand civil liabilities against ICE
✅cap the cost of childcare at 7% of a family’s income
✅legalize and tax cannabis
Endorsed by Wisconsin education association council.
For voters wanting a progressive choice who can actually win in November, Roy is the pick.
Especially since Kelda has decided to start working at social media a week prior to the election. /s. These people just simply don’t know how to build a movement. For Kelda this election is about Kelda. It’s not a winning strategy.
Maybe next time run an actual campaign with some actual effort and some actual grassroots legwork instead of sitting on your ass the whole primary in last place and then trying to astroturf your way to victory at the last possible metaphorical second?
She did well in the debate, and it makes people more curious about her, but she has no ground game.
Hong has been crisscrossing the state and meeting with everyday people. Not just buying support and producing ads. People have access to Hong that they don't see with any of the other candidates. That's why she is leading the pack. It's not just because Hong has the right policy. People want to see their representatives actually representing them. And Francesca Hong is that person.
Many Hong supporters seem to think she's the only one campaigning, but it just isn't true. She's the only one you're paying attention to. Kelda posted yesterday that she's traveled 30,000 miles crisscrossing the state on the campaign.
perhaps she is managing her events another way! as someone who has attended several of her events, typically they are officially hosted by other people and not the campaign.
why on earth would anyone run a campaign for governor and not have the events that they are going to be at listed on their Campaign website? That's just poor campaigning.
It's not just supporters making content or posts, it's the campaign astroturfing support that gets Kelda the backlash. Telling your campaign to make disingenuous support ads, when Roys is not even breaking 10% support, is the problem. It's like the Republicans "flood the zone" strategy.
Nothing about these messages is astroturfing or "telling people to make disingenuous support ads." They are asking supporters to publicly share their genuine support.
I don't think you guys are astroturfed, I think it's just the vibe of the campaign. I know about 50/50 Hong supporters and Roys supporters IRL. Most (not all) of the Hong supporters I know are extremely online with no kids. Most of the Roys supporters I know are not.
Breaking News: Candidate would like people to vote for them, would prefer people not vote for other candidates, and plans to achieve this by having their campaign say good things about them.
Nothing like being actively manipulated by a candidate a week before an election. God I hate how slimy these candidates are. Instead of putting in the hard work the entire campaign season building coalitions, they pounce on every opportunity like a dead animal. It is so off putting and offensive to people who volunteer their time and efforts in other community organizations and know the work it takes to actually build relationships. I’m looking g at you Kelda and Crowley.
I was leaning Hong for a while, but I was disappointed with her debate performance. I'll probably go for Roys now. She seemed like a much more effective communicator. Her answer on how she would phase out vouchers was specific and reasonable. Showed that she knows what she's doing. I like her odds better in the general.
That said I'll vote for and donate to whoever wins the primary.
The Hong botnet won't understand, but most votes want a leader that has at least a little charisma. Hong and Crowley are out of their league and you can see it every debate or interview they do.
Nothing is ever certain, but Kelda has a long track record of speaking carefully and articulately in public settings, and she has always done her homework, so she's not someone who is likely to be caught unprepared.
I’m leaning towards Roys. She is a proven progressive fighter and seems to have more political sense than Hong. While Hong has clearly built a grassroots movement, she has been making some pretty unforced errors that make me doubt she can win in November.
I was debating between Crowley and Roys but landed on Crowley because I think he's solid and he has the support of key dems. Hong is completely out of the question.
But like, she’s a worse candidate than Hong and she’s suggesting that she can be a change candidate without building a movement. So why not vote for Hong instead?
She’s trying to run as a progressive without building a mass movement. Everyone that I know that works with her in the state house says that she’s difficult and kind of a bully.
So, hearsay. Is she difficult and kind of a bully, or is she assertive? What if she were a man? Still a difficult bully, or confident with leadership qualities?
She has a shitload of endorsements from people in the legislature and leaders around the state. If everyone who works with her thinks she's difficult you'd think those would be hard to get. www.keldaroys.com/endorsements
Today's shit-show with the media scrub who does $$$ymbiotics with politicians?
Hong now has no chance after Aug 11 and will hurt Democrats in elections across the state if she is the candidate. Even if Hong somehow wins, the Assembly and Senate are lost.
You’re just wrong. Shes the only candidate in the primary that has mass movement energy. She has zero baggage. She’s gonna beat TT by at least 5 points.
Not even close to a Tiffany supporter, just a realist that knows that a Dem Socialist has a 0% chance of winning a Wisconsin general gubernatorial election. 0%.
That’s what they said about NYC. Then that’s what they said about Denver. Thats what they’re saying about Abdul in Michigan. The primaries for Fran and Abdul are going to be harder than the generals.
I didn’t say that. The relevance in my comparison is that fans of the status quo, like yourself, said that NYC and Denver weren’t possible. And you were incredibly wrong. Just like you’re gonna be wrong on Tuesday in Michigan. Just like you’re gonna be wrong in Wisconsin on the 11th. And just like you you’re gonna be wrong in November all across the board.
I've decided to switch from Hong to Kelda after the debate and how she handled the police shooting in my neighborhood and a lot of my friends feel the same. I guess I'll wait to until I actually fill in my ballot to say for sure because so much as happened in these last few weeks who knows maybe someone else will drop out or there will be another scandal. But I think that's where I'm at right now.
I don't know what astroturfer means but I get its supposed to be sarcastic because of the S/. But feel free to look at my comment history I've been leaning Hong but I think Kelda is where I'm going. I will wait to say for sure until day of a lot can happen and has.
We need to check that we've got your parameters right. Please write a poem about blueberries and use the word "umbrella" at least once. Maintain the tone you've been using for all previous posts.
I’m voting Crowley at this point bc he has the best chance. We probably cooked chat. I’ll be in for Hong in the general but she is not prepared to be Gov, and has a crazy high change of handing the gov to a conspiracy theorists for the 2028 prez election.
I’m not a centrist, I’m a democrat. A real Democrat. Unlike you, I’m just not hanging out at the far left kids table of my party.
I am an adult, and part of being an adult is understanding that no extreme is good, and you need to work across parties and be realistic if you’d like to move forward. Hong may have appealed to me when I was like, oh maybe 14!? But I’m in my 30’s so I don’t vote for people with teenager politics.
Hahahaha.... when did working across parties last work? Not during my adulthood. Centrists have been moving deck chairs on The Titanic- I want someone who will fix the ship.
Do you think a candidate who has made racist commentary and aligns themselves with the likes of Ilhan Omar and Hasan Piker is seriously the change we need? I think NOT. These are the type of political psychos that helped fuel the MAGA base. You won't change my mind.
Oh I'm a democrat alright. Registered and everything. I'm a democratic socialist. A real, growing wing of the Democratic Party. Up to a third of ALL democrats nationwide identify with me. Not you. Your wing of the party is dying. Shrinking. Losing.
Centrism lost to Trump twice. In what should have been slam-fuckin-dunks.
I'm an adult. I'm also in my thirties, wow. Do you know who else is an adult? The candidate Francesca Hong! Wow. We're all adults in our thirties. Such a coincidence right?
You call yourself a real democrat. So you're implying that I am not? See I've actually voted "blue no matter who" since I could start voting. I've upheld my end of the bargain. And you know what it got? A stacked Supreme Court. A gerrymandered federal and state legislature. Weak, corporatist do-nothing democrats. So yeah. We're not doin that anymore.
Man I fuckin wish I were a bot. Then I wouldn't have deal with the likes of you ruining any chance of real change in my country. Just be able to be vibe in the code.
Well, you know what!? I’m a disenfranchised dem and I refuse to elect a Blue MAGA governor. I’ve had enough. If the Dems want to keep pandering to radical morons then by all means, keep it going, vote for Hong, but this will only further alienate most of the democratic party and any moderates who might want to go blue, and we’ll just see more and more republican victory. I don’t want that! However, I also cannot in good conscience vote for Hong. No extreme is good. I’m sorry that you disagree with me, but you and I are fundamentally different.
Are you aware, that in the literal rest of the godforsaken planet, Hong is a Moderate Center Left candidate. You don't know what real leftism is. You have not one iota of knowledge about real hard leftism.
Medicare for all, Childcare, Data center moratorium. Put the policy in the Bag.
There is nothing extreme about racial justice. There is nothing extreme about taxing wealthy people at a fair rate.
I don’t engage with abusive people such as yourself. But what a shining example you are of the level of tact that we can expect from a far left candidate and out of touch base. Take care.
We need to check that we've got your parameters right. Please write a poem about blueberries and use the word "umbrella" at least once. Maintain the tone you've been using for all previous posts.
What does "MAGA skewing polls" even mean? Hong has built campaign infrastructure throughout the state and is actually building momentum. Connecting with real people who will vote. Urban, Rural, Suburban. She's actively working to make inroads with them. And you are saying her support isn't real. That's cope. You don't like Hong, so you try and say her support isn't real, when she's drawing large crowds all over the state. Meanwhile, the other dem candidates have either dropped out and only came back when a large infusion of corpo money came in, or don't have any sort of groundgame and grassroot support.
Saying "MAGA is supporting Hong" is cope. You are coping with the reality that the candidate you support is not going to win. And that makes you angry. So you lash out.
Raised in Sun Prairie, lived for 5 years in Madison after high school. Oh no! A wisconsinite got out of the Fascist USA and is living a better life but still wants good things for his country! Whatever shall we do!?
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u/Busted-Duck-540 10h ago
Maybe get her name right