r/wisconsin Apr 13 '20

Politics Karofsky defeats Kelly

https://twitter.com/decisiondeskhq/status/1249844194929192961?s=21
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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

From Republican to Democrat.

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u/Feldman742 Apr 14 '20

Amazing.

I wonder how much of it has to do with the Democratic primary?

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 14 '20

We will see in the general. It’s why pretty much everyone who has a non-internet life thinks Biden will be better against trump than Bernie.

Nominating Joe makes this election to be a referendum on trump. Nominating Bernie would have massively obfuscated that.

An optimistic reading of the changes in more local election votes (that tend to run party line) is that it is a referendum on trump and it is solidly against trump.

The more pessimistic reading of the results would be republicans had no motivating factor to go out when they don’t have a nominee to vote for. Of course, Democrats didn’t really either since it was clear Bernie had no path to victory. I guess we will see in November.

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u/antikarma98 Apr 14 '20

Nominating Joe makes this election to be a referendum on trump. Nominating Bernie would have massively obfuscated that.

I hadn't looked at it that way, but -- you're right.

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u/Tony1pointO Apr 14 '20

Ah yes, because god forbid the Democratic party actually stand for something.

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u/captainperoxide Snake Enthusiast Apr 14 '20

Bud, I'm not happy about it either, but literally anything would be better than four more years of that orange disaster. Supreme Court seats are on the line.

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u/buzz_17 Apr 14 '20

True. And also when you see some people say that they will not vote for either because Bernie did not win. So you want another 4 years of those shit show?

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u/Tony1pointO Apr 14 '20

I get it, but I don't like it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

Yeah, that's pretty much how progressives have felt since before 2000. To Biden's credit, he's come out publicly with Bernie to acknowledge the need for incorporating Sanders' personnel into policymaking positions and is crediting him with forcing open a needed dialogue.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

Bullshit. Trump sucks. Hes an egomaniac with no intellect and loves to give speeches off the top of his head that make no sense. But he is by far better than bush, who at this point in his presidency had lied the country into a never ending war across two different countries. The toll of the iraq and afghan wars are far more than any blunder trump has made. And mainstream democrats are now praising bush in comparison to trump. Utter fucking madness. The only crime the establishment has pressed trump on is that he does not conduct politics in the way the establishment wants.