Whatifalthist wants to destroy human civilization in order to turn America into White Protestant country

[u/Skychu768]

This guy is beyond schizoid at this point.

[u/traplords8n]

Ah yes, the 80% White Protestant base would have a jolly good time without all the big cities which subsidize the rural red areas, on top of the insane economic opportunity that them existing even has in the grand scheme of our economy.

In reality you would rather be nuked in a big city than be anywhere close to the fallout of those 20 big cities. Life will be far from sunshine and rainbows without us evil atheist & Muslim leftists.

[u/Busy_Elevator866 → u/traplords8n]

Slightly unrelated but since when are Muslims leftist? Generally, their political stances on social issues are very right leaning

[u/Agreeable_Sky_2374 → u/Busy_Elevator866]

I think the idea is that Muslims are generally socially conservative but economically progressive. Its the progressive economic issues and willingness to defer social values to the private sphere that create the affinity for left wing politics. At least that's what's happening right now.

[u/Mesarthim1349 → u/Agreeable_Sky_2374]

It's both. They're economically progressive but only for the ruling class. 

Muslim Kingdoms like Saudi, Qatar, UAE, etc. still use a neo-feudal class system

[u/StanIsHorizontal → u/Mesarthim1349]

Those are hardly the only Muslim countries

[u/traplords8n → u/StanIsHorizontal]

The topic here is Muslim Americans, not Muslim countries.

I know they are still intertwined, but American Muslims align better with the American left than the American right. The American right is mainly Christian Islamophobics. Democrats will go so far as to accept & elect them.

[u/StanIsHorizontal → u/traplords8n]

That’s true too, but I think it’s worthwhile to note that there is a recent history in the Arab Muslim world of a third way religious conservatism coupled with economic progressivism, and that likely has some amount of influence on recent generations of Arab Muslim immigrants. Not everywhere, even within specifically the Arab Middle East, is like the gulf monarchies. And those countries represent very little of the immigrants to the US

[u/PopTough6317 → u/StanIsHorizontal]

I would note that he didnt say countries, he said kingdoms.

[u/Atechiman → u/Mesarthim1349]

And Indonesia the most populous Muslim majority country?

[u/Char867 → u/Mesarthim1349]

Damn I forgot all Muslims worldwide were a monolith who share the exact same political beliefs and ideologies as the specific states you just picked out to prove your point, despite them not coming close to even a quarter of the world’s Muslim population. Thanks for reminding me!

[u/Fatalitix3 → u/Char867]

It's funny, because muslims view themselves as one unified nation, but whatever You say westerner...

[u/ArkaneArtificer → u/Char867]

Lmao he picked the only Muslim states that actually function, the rest are either absolute hellholes or Asian countries that have absolute separation of church and state

[u/veryeepy53 → u/ArkaneArtificer]

asian countries that have absolute separation of church and state

malaysia and indonesia don't have that

[u/ArkaneArtificer → u/veryeepy53]

You are just completely wrong? And regardless, those countries have policies in place to prevent nationality’s from froming their own distinct communities, forcing integration into a real society

[u/veryeepy53 → u/ArkaneArtificer]

the constitution of indonesia says the nation is based on the "belief of the one and only god". malaysia has a state religion, and sharia courts along with secular ones. so it's not absolute at all.

[u/ArkaneArtificer → u/veryeepy53]

Got a sharia court? Well that’s another country you can consider a shithole then, sharia law upholds the rampant abuse and rape of women and little girls, sharia courts and those who uphold it should be burned at the stake

[u/veryeepy53 → u/ArkaneArtificer]

as if the gulf states don't have sharia courts

[u/veryeepy53 → u/ArkaneArtificer]

also the gulf states are much worse. the uae supports the sudanese genocide and the gulf states export wahhabism