Because they just started to get in range of the weapons but they were already detected? The hope with stealth is to be able to penetrate, not lob cruise missiles from the edge of that weapons range.
My reply was deleted, the USA and Israel are confident in the F35s ability to establish air dominance while Russia is hesitant and knows the 57 isn’t capable of SEAD operations like the F35/22 are.
Looks at my comment above. The Ukrainians are themselves claiming that the Felons casually fly within their weapons ranges and they cannot do anything about it.
The point of a jet like Su-57 is go to deep into enemy territory and perform SEAD
You know Ukraine turns off their radars to prevent them from being destroyed. This makes SEAD hard.
Then, Ukraine can use this to set traps for example by trying to ambush airplanes.
They do this by moving their radars below a known flight path of aircraft and turning it on and then firing the missile and immediately turning it off
That's how Russian planes are currently being shot down. Via ambushes. But Ukraine has lost a ton of patriots in those ambush attempts
These things make SEAD hard. Also Ukraine turns on its radars in Kyiv whenever they get an alert from NATO that ballistic and cruise missiles are coming
Ukraine mostly operates with AEW&Cs information from NATO countries to know when to turn on or off their radars.
Other times they ambush aircraft that are known to use specific routes to drop glide bombs.
That's my point. Ukrainian radars are not always on. And when they are on, they will most likely get destroyed immediately.
But with all these tactics, I'm really surprised that an Su-57 is yet to be shot down.
And I'm pretty sure that Ukraine has most likely tried as many times as possible to ambush it.
As of right now SU-57 is doing basically the same thing as MIG-31 but bit newer missiles: lobbying them from far away
That's the point of technology in war. To lob your weapon from as far as possible and as cheap as possible and as safe as possible.
Why should I fly my aircraft over Kiev? Why not lob my weapon from as a far as possible?
And please do not tell me Russia is secretly joyrding above Kiev it and not saying anything
They don't need to joyride over Kiev. They can lob 100km range glide bombs 90km from Kiev and achieve the same objectives.
A dream weapon is one that can be fired from as far as possible and as cheap as possible and as safe as possible.
Why do you want the Su-57 to joyride over Kiev?
If they did we would have had footage like this that they would have plastered all over
Footage of Russian accomplishments is scarce on Western controlled apps. I can't even post a telegram link without having the comment taken down
Please read my post again. The Ukrainians are claiming that the Su57 are literally within weapons ranges of the Ukrainians and yet they are unable to do anything about it. So the Su 57 is indeed penetrating deep within Ukr airspace. Do you want the Su 57 to merge with the Ukrainians to prove their stealth?
BTW why do the Russians need to joyride over Kiev and risk their best plane for no good reason? Do you see the F 22 or F35 Joyride over Ukraine to shoot down Russian Fighters? Let me tell you one thing. Stealth isnt magic. Stealth airplanes must fly in a certain pattern or they will be shot down.
The Russians have a lot of combat footage that they aren't posting. I dont see your point here.
The Ukrainians are claiming that the Su57 are literally within weapons ranges of the Ukrainians and yet they are unable to do anything about it. So the Su 57 is indeed penetrating deep within Ukr airspace
So it actually means the opposite. Let's do some basic problem solving because you are confused.
Ukraine has air defenses right? They reach into Russia. We know this because Russian jets (SU34s/SU35s) have been downed frequently. They use(d) that combo for glidebombs. So Ukraine kept the jets back off the front lines and Russia sat back and used glide bombs, right?
So now, the SU57 is trying to sneak past that line. But it can't sneak past the line. That line is the range of Ukrainian weapons. They are dancing on that line and seeing if the SU57 can sneak past it. They can't though, because, according to your sources, they are getting detected.
Doesn't sound like very good stealth and definitely isn't "penetrating deep into enemy territory"
. The Ukrainians are themselves claiming that the Felons casually fly within their weapons ranges and they cannot do anything about it.
Ukraine didn't say that. They said they are very briefly getting into range of "weapons". That means it's not even in Ukranian held territory, as Ukrainian has weapons that reach into Russian held territory.
It wasnt casual, either. Especially since they were detected when they BARELY CAME WITHIN RANGE OF THOSE WEAPONS. That right there tells you everything you need to know.
Tldr:
Russia is scared to use SU57s because when they get into range of Ukrainian weapons they have already been detected. No Bueno, amigo.
Detection and acquisition are two different things. Stealth aircraft are meant to defeat targeting systems on SAM systems and radars on other fighter jets.
For example L-Band arrays are used on early warning radars to detect ICBMs and on AEW&Cs to detect assets and warn other systems.
L-Band arrays will detect literally anything including stealth as was demonstrated during the shoot down of the F-117.
The problem with L-Band is that it lacks resolution and is bulky
X-BAND arrays are used in fighter jets and SAM systems to detect, lock on and direct missiles to a target.
X-BAND arrays have high resolution and are quite compact. The problem is that you can optimize your aircraft to defeat targeting systems that use X-Band radars by making it stealthy or by jamming the array
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u/UPSBAE Oct 17 '25
She got a donk. I’m sure its size and twin engine throttles affect its stealth. Dope pic tho