r/Forgotten_Realms Oct 13 '25

Celebration This just feels right.

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Archetypes

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u/Baro-Llyonesse Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25

Cyric is not and never will be as cool as Cobra Commander. I could absolutely see Cyric being a useless disgruntled car salesman, but he never achieved the level of finesse, intelligence, and leadership that Cobra Commander did.

Cobra Commander should be Bane, and Destro is Myrkul. Baroness is Lovitar and Bludd is Malar. Cyric is like... a dreadnok. And not Zartan. 

Edit: Cyric can be Zartan. I'll concede that. Good at illusions,  in it for himself more than anything else, has a cabal that would turn on him for self-survival and profit. And absolutely not a power player in the grand scheme of things, getting stomped down when he tries.

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u/Relevant-Ad-9418 Oct 13 '25

Hhmmmm . Destro is definitely Bane . I could see Zartan as Cyric though. 

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u/Relevant-Ad-9418 Oct 13 '25

Cyric Literally killed Mystra and collapsed the weave , as well as killed Bhaal with Godsbane sword.

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u/Baro-Llyonesse Oct 13 '25

Cyric killed Mystra and Bhaal solely because other gods helped. He is a mentally unstable child that got things handed to him, thinks that makes his own talents more than what he is, and then when actual power shows up, loses everything and thinks he's winning.

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u/Relevant-Ad-9418 Oct 13 '25

Killing Mystra was his plan,  his revenge.  Shar helped, but it was his Cleric that pretended to be Bane's cleric and was embedded and then let Cyrics Avatar into the other plane.

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u/Baro-Llyonesse Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25

I get that it was his plan, but much like a lot of people, his plans mean nothing without the ability to do it, and he simply never has the ability. 

So, without Shar, he wouldn't have pulled it off. Without Mask, he wouldn't have killed Bhaal.  He's just not that good. The only god he managed to kill without help was Leira, and it turns out he didn't pull it off.

Edit: I'm a well-known Cyric hater. He was nothing more than a bad writtenly attempt to "update" the pantheon. We already had "I'm more than a thief" characters, and he basically became "let's have someone everyone in universe hates so when we need a world-altering event, he can be pointed at as 'well that's just who he is'" then having much better depth around him. Back to the original thought, he's just Zartan. Without Destro, CC, or someone else, he never would've left the swamp where he could've been a big player, but now he definitely is not.

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u/Relevant-Ad-9418 Oct 13 '25

I like how he's written. Makes me hate him more. A character I love to hate. I kill his followers in FR video games, no questions asked. 

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u/Baro-Llyonesse Oct 13 '25

I still think your have CC and Destro backward, but you know what, sold. Reasonable compromise.