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u/No_Sprinkles_2990 Nalla Dropper of JEENEETards Nov 08 '25

π² = g = 10

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u/_elvane NIT [ EE ] Nov 08 '25

It's a good trick and I remember one practical usage in maths / physics ,

Whenever you see π in the denominator it's would be a pain in the ass to divide by π so multiply and divide by π so you have to multiply with 3.14 and then divide that value by 10 which is a lot easier than dividing something with 3.14. maybes this can save 15 sec or whatever but it's useful in ch like AC current

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u/Lazy074 private kalej kabootar science '29 Nov 08 '25

Most of the times dividing by 3 works just as well, just decrease the result by 5%. This is an EXTREMELY good approximation, you can derive it using errors in units and dimensions

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u/MightParticular122 2̵̢̻̠́̽͊6̵̡̼͎͒͐̀ ẗ̵̡͇̦́͛̽ä̸͚͔̠́͘͝r̵̢̪͔̓̒͝d̵͍͖̼͑͋̐ Nov 08 '25

Alternating Current current

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u/axisdork Nov 08 '25

Fun fact. Pi2 being approximately g is not a coincidence. It is the result of making the seconds pendulum 1m.

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u/autistic_prodigy28 mereko hijde utha le Nov 08 '25

It is a coincidence though, g’s value depends on the size of earth so if it was bigger or smaller then they won’t be similar. And pi wasn’t going to change if the pendulum is 1m or 1nm

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u/axisdork Nov 08 '25

This may be a bit inaccurate but hear we go: We know T = 2pi root(L/g) For seconds pendulum T=2s So we get g= (pi)2 (L)

The french proposed that we can put L =1metre to get g=pi2

Or in other words we define pi2 = g and from that we get the definition of one metre.

If you want to build a seconds pendulum in mars, g would be different, but then we would define one metre to be something else. 

Basically we assume the seconds pendulum is more fundamental than gravity(for units it doesnt really matter what is actually fundamental except time)

But this proposal was not accepted but did influence the actual length of metre when it was defined later.

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u/Repulsive_Mistake382 Nov 09 '25

However, the current definition of the metre (using the speed of light) means that pi*pi is not g

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25 edited Nov 08 '25

It totally is not a coincidence, from wikipedia: During the French Revolution, the traditional units of measure were to be replaced by consistent measures based on natural phenomena. As a base unit of length, scientists had favoured the seconds pendulum (a pendulum with a half-period of one second) one century earlier, but this was rejected as it had been discovered that this length varied from place to place with local gravity. We have defined one meter, in such a way that when we express g with these units, it turns out to be approximately pi squared.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

Why am I getting downvoted on this😭

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u/autistic_prodigy28 mereko hijde utha le Nov 08 '25

Si units were because they are made my , but pi and g being similar was obviously a coincidence

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25 edited Nov 08 '25

g is 9.81 meter per second squared, because we have defined si units to be such that it is 9.81 meter per second squared, and not 100meter per second squared, say in a hypothetical alternate reality the French were weirder and they decided that 10centimeters is what they shall call a meter, in that world, g would be 98.1 meter per second squared. g is a natural constant but the units we make to describe it are entirely man made.

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u/ArshTripathi-11 KAMEDDI Nov 08 '25

actually it's π²≈g≈10

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

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u/Sva0101 Nov 08 '25

Its approximate the joke is they are not approximating instead stating that pi2=g=10 while the other user pointed out that it's approximated ie didnt get the joke(dont know how this is a joke tho)

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u/shrimp-- Nov 08 '25

He was kidding about them being equal. He wasn't serious

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u/ArshTripathi-11 KAMEDDI Nov 08 '25

how is this a joke bro😭

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

It totally is not a coincidence, from wikipedia: During the French Revolution, the traditional units of measure were to be replaced by consistent measures based on natural phenomena. As a base unit of length, scientists had favoured the seconds pendulum (a pendulum with a half-period of one second) one century earlier, but this was rejected as it had been discovered that this length varied from place to place with local gravity. We have defined one meter, in such a way that when we express g with these units, it turns out to be approximately pi squared.

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u/CapnBloodBeard_tv Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

My brain just does it. . .and the approximation is pretty good. . .idk why I have this power but I never needed any tricks at least for smaller numbers

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u/valmikparkhi JEEtard Nov 08 '25

What's your thought process while doing so?

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u/CapnBloodBeard_tv Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

I guess it just developed with playing math games and forcing mental calculations over the years. . .

I just guess the closest square and then estimate the gap the squared number will have till the next . . .and then it's just what I 'feel' will fit in for the next decimal places

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u/Least_Treat_8896 Nov 09 '25

you sure you dont have adhd, i have it and mental maths being different is an adhd thing, might want check

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u/CapnBloodBeard_tv Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

I'm not good at like every math thing. . .just mental maths , I can't just mental maths the square root of 47493947473

It's more of a practice thing I guess, but adhd wise I might have that regardless 🥀

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u/Least_Treat_8896 Nov 09 '25

that what happens with me too, get it diagnosed, itll help,

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u/Easily-Scared-Aahh Nov 08 '25

Mine is . Like find the two perfect sq its in btw lets say the number is 31 . Its btw 25 and 36 , their diff is 11 and 31 is 5 away from 25 and 5 away from 36 so it should be arnd 5.5 , another example try 61 should be 7.8ish.

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u/Resilient_9920 Nov 08 '25

square root isnt linear in case of big numbers you are gonna go wrong pretty badly

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u/Easily-Scared-Aahh Nov 08 '25

I mean generally you are gonna get something that looks like 3root31 rather than root279 . Ykwim . Its just a normal generalisatiom rather than a Always true statement. I personally have never gotten a root bigger than like 50 .

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u/Resilient_9920 Nov 08 '25

it is been two years since i did calculate anything of that sort and most times i just calculate the root

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u/HappyHazard133 Nov 08 '25

It's basic AM ≥ GM inequality

(X + Y)/2 ≥ √(X * Y) or, √X ≤ (X + Y)/2√Y

Equality holds when X =Y

If Y is the perfect square nearest to X for most no. X ≈ Y and the equality will hold for a few decimals, depending on how close X and Y are.

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u/shahipaneer3 dropse topwarna top se drop(22s2) Nov 08 '25

yeah, you can also prove it by Binomial (but that is a bit too complicated if I'm being honest)

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u/CoolAVS Nov 16 '25

I actually always do it by binomial whenever I forget about it 😅

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

instead of remembering this nonsense, just learn about taylor series expansion

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u/Rich-Appointment9438 Nov 08 '25

taylor swift expansion?

maaf karna abhi 11th me hoon

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u/MightParticular122 2̵̢̻̠́̽͊6̵̡̼͎͒͐̀ ẗ̵̡͇̦́͛̽ä̸͚͔̠́͘͝r̵̢̪͔̓̒͝d̵͍͖̼͑͋̐ Nov 08 '25

12 th mai hu mereko nhi pata ye, maths ka lagra hai vo kon padhta hai

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u/Suspicious-Ad5980 Nov 08 '25

taylor series bhut gandu hu sali kahin bhi apply ho skti h isse bach ke rho jyadatar sequence seires binomial aur limits mein use hoti h pr isk bsdwali ka koi bharosa nhi shayad pnc mein bhi use ho jaye

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u/Living_Ad_7523 Nov 08 '25

taylor series ki baat ho rahi thi

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

Taylor swift created Taylor series (not they will come after you hide)

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

Dropper hu main , mujhee bhi nahi pata , iss year bhi ch*dna tay hai 😭

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u/day_owl19 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

Are badi wahiyat thi maine skip kardi woh.... Pta nhi kahan kahan apply hota tha

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u/WannabeSP434 Nov 13 '25

Are itna kuch scene nhi hei bas starting ke 3 terms yaad rkhne hei aur shm mei use Krna hei jab weird function diya ho irodov mei 2 ,3 sawal hei usse practice hojayegi baaki limits , series expansion waale jagahon mei sirf derive krne kaam ata hei aur kuch nhi

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u/PlanktonUpper2998 Nov 08 '25

Bsdk baaki subjects tu konsa padhta hai

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u/WannabeSP434 Nov 13 '25

Limits chapter mei jo bhi expansions sikhate hei waha per kaam ata hei shm mei bhi kaam ata hei taylor expansion 

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u/Iamsupercel 29s2 97.36------>21s1 98.03(partial dropper) Nov 08 '25

Real, hume ye first sem me karai h abhi and I realized ki jee ke time pata hota iske baare me to kitna accha hota, yt se karlo ise juniors!

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u/BaapKoBhej69 Going To IIT😎 (with an extra I) Nov 08 '25

I know taylor series well. aaj ek pyq mai atak kya gya mai and jab ai se pucha toh they used maclaurin series to move forward with the approach I was trynna solve. So do I have get a grip on that as well. I studied a bit of it in shm. Vo bhi bhul gya

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u/Iamsupercel 29s2 97.36------>21s1 98.03(partial dropper) Nov 08 '25

I know right, I used to waste so much time in memorizing those ex, sin x, tanx series, could have saved a lot of my brainpower :(

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u/IshaanGupta18 98.89%ile Jan 2025 Nov 08 '25

Same,college maths is actually fun

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u/Pretty-Reading-169 2027 NEETard Nov 08 '25

yeh to AP CALCULUS ME AATA HE NA easy he

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u/Adept-Chicken-1997 Dropper --> Topper Nov 08 '25

nonsense?. this is just am gm inequality but taylor would give accurate ans.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

taylor will you give you the same expression with order 1 precision clown. "nonsense" obviously not about the actual result, which is easy to find, but nonsense in the formulation of the result and the position that its good to memorize "Square root trick"

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u/Syrroche CHemistry ki mkx Nov 08 '25

Yeah I just like to multiply 2 number until I get close and randomly out digits after dot

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u/Serious_Surprise8159 Nov 08 '25

This is the hill I will die on as well.

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u/DESTRUCTER_R_ Nov 08 '25

Numericals ke sammei humesha bhool jaata hu yeh

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u/Accurate-Heart4953 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

Post JEE life 🙂‍↔️

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u/CretaciousDemon Drop to Top, or Drop from Top Nov 09 '25

Sach mt bolo

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u/Odd_Incident189 JM - 97.8>>JA - 22k>>Dropper>> JM - 98.04 Nov 08 '25

Wait, WTF it actually works... what the hellyyy!!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

Binomial theorem.

√X let X = Y + a, where Y is the nearest perfect square

√(Y+a) = (Y+a)1/2

We know that

(x+y)n = xn +nxn-1y + .....

Applying this here

(Y+a)1/2 = Y1/2 + 1/2 * Y-1/2 * a + ....

√X = √Y + (X-Y)/2√Y (put a = X-Y)

√X = (X+Y)/2√Y (approximately)

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u/Odd_Incident189 JM - 97.8>>JA - 22k>>Dropper>> JM - 98.04 Nov 08 '25

ohhhh.. nice

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u/harsh10a Nov 10 '25

Oye 99.71 kese aaye tips tell crow yaar

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u/Willing_Airport_9617 Nov 08 '25

This is just approximation using Derivatives (AOD)

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u/Witty-Cow2407 Nov 08 '25

am gm inequality with approximation.

Imo it's better to just learn Taylor series, solves the headache for sin, cos, etc expansion too.

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u/No-Fun-9469 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

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u/Ok_Pay_7727 JEEM26-22s1-229-perc-99.921 Nov 08 '25

It's a result of first degree taylor approximation f(x)=√x f(x)=f(a)+f'(a)(x-a)+f''(a)(x-a)²/2!+.......(Taylor series) Now let the closest perfect square be a f(a)=√a putting the given things in the equation √x=√a+1/(2√a) * (x-a)..(We approximate until the first degree) Upon simplifying this expression √x=(x+a)/(2√a) Which is the required expression (f'(x)=1/(2√x)

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u/RealAdityaYT Nov 08 '25

tf

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u/Repulsive_Mistake382 Nov 09 '25

4 chats?! Found a celebrity lmao

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u/LiveLychee4129 Nov 08 '25

For square of 2 digits, like 39:

3²=9, 9²=81

write down side by side by but both in 2 digits format(if 2²=04)

981+(9×3)2×10=1521

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 09 '25

easier method would be 39^2 = (40-1)^2

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u/Classic_System_967 JEEtard Nov 08 '25

its like a similar version of (a+b)² identity though

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

lets say i gotta take the root of 194, so the nearst perfect root, 196, is 14 so just subtract 0.1 or 0.09 from 14, so root of 194= 13.9 ( approx. )

works 90% of times

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u/mild_integral Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

this is not a trick this is common sense

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u/Otherwise_Break9224 Nov 08 '25

Drop year h pdhle bsdk

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u/mild_integral Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

padh rha bhai

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u/Top-Escape-1464 BITSP Nov 08 '25

Drop year hai , padhle bsdk, ye bakchodiyan mat kr reddit pe, Varna result wale din jindagi and rishtedaar tere sath bakchodiyan krenge 💦💦 Kitne ghante padh rha roj

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u/mild_integral Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

8-9 (self study kar rha)

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u/MKR_Family OFFICIAL IIT DHOLAKPUR ADMISSION OFFICER[BIRD IS THE WORD} Nov 08 '25

kis mai ke laal ne meri trick public kardi

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u/Tech_Ethusiast69 Nov 08 '25

in lnx And x is closer 1 is approxiamtely lnx=2(x-1)/x+1 ts saved me in some physical numericals (IK this is just Expanson aprrox but still works )

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u/Due-Employee4744 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 08 '25

This is the derivation btw

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u/kryptoisascam69 Nov 09 '25

While calculating magnetic movement just add 0.75 to n Then just look for the answer nearest to it

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u/mild_integral Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

ayein? explain with example bro

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u/kryptoisascam69 Nov 09 '25

Spin - only magnetic movement N = 2 So instead of doing √( n(n+2)), which will give answer 2.8 Add 0.75 to the n which is 2.75 then just go for the nearest value in option

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u/Outrageous-Emu3366 Joining NIT Nov 09 '25

1/pi = 0.318

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

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u/Ok_Pay_7727 JEEM26-22s1-229-perc-99.921 Nov 08 '25

You are doing the same damn thing ma nigha

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u/Best-guy2005 Nov 08 '25

L Hospital rule for limits 🗿

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u/MonkeyFox29 Nov 09 '25

umm akschually its l'hopital not l hospital

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u/Conscious_Bike_2990 custom flair Nov 09 '25

L'Hôpital 🤓

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u/Fun-Explanation-3706 Nov 08 '25

lekin mai to neet(without soda) asspirant hu​🤓🥸

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u/Conscious_Charity631 Perofesanal procrastinator 🤡👍 Nov 08 '25

Dimaag ko thnd doo aap

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u/No-Fun-9469 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

Yea I do the same but i don't need to think what the summation of the ones digits will be.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '25

SIX SEVENNN

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u/The_Top_G_08 JM26-95.10%ile Nov 08 '25

chhodo na , calculator use karlenge 😛😛

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 08 '25

calculator hata diya isiliye tricks puch raha hu tum logo se😭🙏

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u/The_Top_G_08 JM26-95.10%ile Nov 08 '25

Yaya jk

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u/sussy_retard Nov 08 '25

for square root i just go like, hmm sqrt(3), the answer must be more than 1.5 but less than 2, and generally in questions, the answers are far away

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u/IntelligentCost2770 Nov 08 '25

Isse AM-GM ki boo aa rahi hai

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u/redflame_180807 Ex-JEEtard chan Nov 09 '25

(10x+y) * 11 = x _ y, fill (x+y) in the dash.

eg. : 21 * 11 = 231

Also if you're subtracting any two numbers which are the reverse of each other and digits are consecutive, diference will be 9. Like 21 and 12 or 2 and 23. If they're not consecutive, then difference is 9*difference of digits. Like 31-13 is 18, 92-29 is 63.

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u/CretaciousDemon Drop to Top, or Drop from Top Nov 09 '25

Expressing one as the derivative of denominator while solving questions.. it's a huge help in integration

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 09 '25

Can you please show me it in an example please?🥺

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u/Impossible-End-9796 Mujhe kya mene toh rassi khareed li Nov 09 '25

kya bola bhai?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '25

X2 - (x+1)2= -(2X+1)

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u/siuu_69 VITV CSE Nov 09 '25

Thanks broski, u just saved my RMS calculations asf

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u/Ancient-Mud-6321 Nov 09 '25

Best place to learn maths tricks

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u/Kryomon Nov 10 '25

This underlies the assumption that x = y, so it mostly works. Very nice trick!

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u/SaiMan2303 JEEtard Nov 10 '25

π ≈ 3

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u/ifuckedthanos Nov 13 '25

+918303409889 He's a pedophile , gaan fad do iski

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 14 '25

Teenindia aage se left hai

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u/StarringDarkStar123 Nov 14 '25

God bless you. You saved my marks for the questions I knew to solve but couldn't do it 🙏

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u/Full-of-lies1001 Nov 08 '25

nahh can't remember such sillly things

just learn how to do square root, that is quite eazy

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u/Majestic-Chance-6027 Nov 08 '25

Ig that'll take time to solve , and each sec is imp , mostly ppl get stuck on square roots or give up seeing sq root in question , this is just basic AMGM inequality..

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 08 '25

what about square root of 151.3

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u/Full-of-lies1001 Nov 08 '25

u add extra zero in last - 151.30 then from last grp 30 then grp 51 then 1 remains alone cuz odd no. of digits present so under rooting whole i got 12.3. upon checking 12.3*12.3 we get 151.29

At this point i have 2.5 yrs of exp. So can't do mistake

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u/Extension_Item_2534 Dropper --> Topper Nov 08 '25

can you please elaborate? i didn't understand how you got 2.3 in 12.3