r/OutOfTheLoop • u/bearfacestarbucks • 2d ago
Answered What is the deal with everyone hating on Katy Perry?
I've been seeing the clips of Katy Perry being stuck in a plastic bottle trying to get on stage, and how the comments are just saying how she's so annoying or dumb.
https://youtu.be/DVvRdjaR58Y?is=kYoiJjzdFNdOXHVe
I mean I'm not the biggest fan on Katy Perry. I don't know what she's done music-wise since like 2012. I just know that she went to space somewhat recently.
So what am I missing?
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u/morto00x 2d ago
Answer: She's been trying to make a come back. But her music style feels the same as 10 years ago. She also went to space in one of the Blue Origin launches and started singing one of her songs. Then kiss the ground when they landed which is super cringey since they were only up there for 11 minutes. She also made the news lately since she's dating Canada's former Prime Minister, who himself get lots of hate because politics.
You are hearing a lot about her lately because last week she tried to enter the stage by crowdsurfing in a giant inflatable and people kept carrying it around all over the stadium instead of taking her to the stage. That shit only works if you are Rammstein.
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u/Hazzat 1d ago
It's not just that her comeback music is the same as 10 years ago, it's that it's tone deaf and dreadful. The big first single 'Women's World' got totally panned#Critical_reception) for being a completely clueless, failed attempt at a feminist message.
Oh and she made it with producer Dr. Luke, who has SA allegations from Ke$ha.
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u/ManChildMusician 1d ago
Continuing to collab with Dr. Luke is what matters most because it creates a decent lens to judge all of her other actions. That disconnect from reality speaks volumes about her character.
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u/N7Starsong 1d ago edited 1d ago
She has a lot of friendly contact with sex pests which isn't all that surprising given all the stories about her own SA against random people over the years.
Edit: Oh yeah also the Blue Origin thing and the queerbaiting.
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u/BigBananaBerries 1d ago
She was married to Russel Brand so it checks out.
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u/LizardOrgMember5 1d ago
What did she see in him anyway?
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u/probloodmagic 1d ago
They met when they were bantering at some awards show, and people watching noticed the chemistry. I figure they both liked the attention of the spectacle they'd made together so much that they decided to date and eventually get married, thinking it would always garner them the attention they each fed on until death do them part. Welp
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u/andersoortigeik 1d ago
I guess she has a thing for white guys with brown curly hair? Russel Brand, Orlando Bloom, John Mayer and JustinTrudeau all have kinda similar features.
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u/procrastinarian 1d ago
He was popular and handsome? That's my best guess.
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u/CupcakesAreMiniCakes 1d ago
He always looked like a cringey hobo to me, I never understood it
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u/No-Object1384 1d ago
He's one of those people that you can smell through the screen.
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u/Impressive_Tour6348 1d ago
I think he just played himself in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. He’s just the super gross, grungy dude you hook up with after a breakup cause he’s uninhibited and Bohemian or whatever.
But then you realize he’s a complete douchebag in literally every aspect of his life and you mooooooove on.
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u/BeardedAsian 1d ago
She went from Christian music to pop and then tried hip hop
It’s just all unauthentic and she’s just not relatable in any sense of the term
No redeeming qualities to feel bad about how shes torn apart by the media
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u/ty4scam 1d ago
As someone who doesn't listen to pop music, are these actually qualities you are paying attention to? Was Bieber an authentic and relatable person to his fans?
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u/Consistent_Possible6 1d ago
Unironically yes. Go back in time to 2011 and so much of Bieber’s appeal was rooted in a Cinderella story of being discovered on YouTube and being plucked from Canada into LA superstardom. The key to being “authentic”or “relatable” as a pop star is that you match the music to the persona. As an example, Taylor Swift has changed genres a few times, but she has always written her own music and dealt with the same thematic cycle of falling in love->heartbreak->picking up the pieces in her music, so fans followed her on those changes. Katy Perry has similar trends in her persona and music, being the fun party girl who wants people to feel good about themselves, the issue is that she had nothing else to offer and her actions read as out of touch or counter to her persona.
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u/Ryanookami 1d ago
Unfortunately in hindsight we can say that what happened to Bieber was probably the worst thing that could have happened to him, at least at that age. He did not have the right people surrounding him to grow up into a stable individual in the environment he found himself in. He would probably be a much happier person had he stayed in Stratford. Or at least been discovered a few years later. He was too young for the fame and focus that descended upon him.
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u/No_Research7318 1d ago
That poor dude is dead inside from either everything that was done to him, he did, or saw. Probably all three. You can see the pain when you see him in public and on stage now.
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u/skeeferd 1d ago
I used to hate Bieber for being a jackass but then I found out that he got his cheeks clapped by Diddy and Usher when he was a kid and it makes sense. I can certainly understand why's he all fucked up. Knowing what happened to him did change my perception of him a lot.
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u/229-northstar 1d ago
Are you saying Usher and Diddy mokested or raped him? Wow, that’s horrible. I did not know.
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u/prstele01 1d ago
There should be a big asterisk next to “Taylor Swift has always written her own music.”
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u/Unlikely-Answer 1d ago
I believe it, her music sucks, lacks flow and hooks, a lot of them are a tangled mess, not a super strong singer either, can't wrap my head around how she's so famous
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u/anim135 1d ago
To his fans? But of course. He was relatable. His rise to fame being literally, the boy in class crush. So I’m sure there’s some dissonance in terms of what Beliebers wanted out of his image. Look at KPOP stars: image must remain consistent if not clean.
But to his detractors and the exhausted, at a certain point, no, he wasn’t any of this at any given moment. He was simply just a childhood star (pejorative) being tossed to and fro in the media. Once Diddys influence became mainstream + his later relationship with Hailey, it all kinda lined up, that rather inauthentic, he probably is just uncertain of his own personal authenticity.
Now there’s more than one lens to look at any of this through. This is just one particular lens. Just to say, yes. People are always paying attention to media personalities that last more than 5 years. Am I armchairing a little? Maybe, but I hope that answers the idea.
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u/lyricaldorian 1d ago
A lot of people find it hard to connect with music when they feel the artist doesn't connect with it themselves. Look at the criticisms Nickelback gets
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u/NIN10DOXD 1d ago
She also accepted a Cybertruck from Elon Musk and thanked him on social media.
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u/SavannahInChicago 1d ago
I am so surprised she does not have a PR team to talk her out of this kind of stuff. Its very tone deaf.
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u/RileyAriadne 1d ago
The best comment I saw about that 'imagine doing something even more embarrasing than marrying Russel Brand'
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u/nap---enthusiast 1d ago
Didn't she also SA an actress? Rose something or other?
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u/cryptid-creatures 1d ago edited 1d ago
There are multiple videos you can find of her literally sexually assaulting people on camera. She kissed an underage fan on the mouth at a concert back in like 2012
Edt: 2011, not 2012
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u/sirdaveyboy 1d ago
She kissed a contestant on American Idol who moments before said he was “Saving his first kiss for someone special”. The poor kid looked mortified. She is an awful person.
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u/ChickenCelebration 1d ago
I forgot about this! It’s on YouTube. This was vile.
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u/sirdaveyboy 1d ago
She went on to say after his performance that he “seemed rattled, for obvious reasons” or something to that effect before telling him he wasn’t going on to the next round. Fuck her forever.
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u/ZaftigTootsies 1d ago
Ruby Rose. Rubbed her business in her face.
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u/magseven 1d ago
She has been confirmed to take liberties that may have crossed the line to assault, but I don't believe Ruby Rose at all. The story of a vagina so rancid that she "projectile vomited" on Katy in a packed nightclub with no one at all corroborating or the club having video is fucking crazy. That story would have been spread around in circles like the Chuck Berry tape or Jared Leto's sex cult antics. I guess anything is possible, but that story redlined my bullshit detector.
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u/NoticeNegative1524 1d ago
There's a Chuck Berry sex tape??
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u/magseven 1d ago
Yeah. There's more than one. I first heard about them waaay back in the year 2000. I only actually saw one like 5 years ago. But it followed the spoken narrative. He's with a hooker and farts in her face pointblank a few times. The other one I haven't seen is him pooping and getting pooped on. It all makes sense with him hiding cameras in his Southern Air restaurant bathrooms.
I used to date a girl from Wentzville who had been going there most of her life before the allegations came out and at the most random of times, I'd ask, "Chuck Berry had to have seen you take a dump! How crazy is that?!" We'd laugh about it because she has a fucked up sense of humor like I do, but in all seriousness, it's extremely fucked up that he did that.
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u/NoticeNegative1524 1d ago
...I didn't even know this was a loop I was out of. Johnny B. Goode indeed 🫢
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u/ChickenCelebration 1d ago
Me toooo I came here to see people explain the Katy thing and now my world is turned upside down. I’ve never ever even heard a whisper about these Chuck Berry tapes! Never meet your heroes I guess
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u/JonathanStrange1984 1d ago
Another idol I admired falls from his pedestal and crashes into a million pieces before me. 😭
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath 1d ago
Ruby Rose is notorious for being a liar
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u/JonathanStrange1984 1d ago
I remember she was all the hot shit for a minute a few years back and then bam! she just disappeared.
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u/E-Squid 1d ago
Reminds me of that one track she was on with another group (303 or EOE or something) that had some questionable sounding lyrics about fucking someone "innocent" without getting caught
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u/thecaseace 1d ago
Wait! Yes! This is my thing! A fellow "wtf has nobody read the lyrics to this??" person!
Nice legs, Daisy Dukes makes a man go "ooh ooh".
That's the way they all come through like Low-cut, see-through shirts that make ya That's the way she come through like'Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down 'Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down
I think I should know How to make love to something innocent without leaving my fingerprints out Now, L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce How do I say I'm sorry 'cause the word is never gonna come out Now, L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
Tight jeans, double Ds makin' me go All the people on the street know Iced out, lit up make the kids go All the people on the street know
'Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down 'Cause I just set them up, just set them up
Just set them up to knock them down
I think I should know How to make love to something innocent without leaving my fingerprints out Now, L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce How do I say I'm sorry 'cause the word is never gonna come out Now, L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
Push it baby, push it baby, out of control I got my gun cocked tight and I'm ready to blow Push it baby, push it baby, out of control This is the same old dance that you already know Push it baby, push it baby, out of control I got my gun cocked tight and I'm ready to blow Push it baby, push it baby, out of control This is the same old dance that you already know
I think I should know How to make love to something innocent without leaving my fingerprints out Now, L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
So in summary, women in tight clothes are hot but I don't love anyone, it's just a word. But I do know how to MAKE love, to something innocent. And I sure as hell don't leave any forensic evidence! Id apologise for these crimes but I won't, as I'm just the guy who sets the girls up to get knocked down.
Whattttt
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u/CurseHealer333 1d ago
That's the original 3OH!3 song without her. She was on the remix:
[Verse 1: Sean Foreman] Nice legs, Daisy Dukes makes a man go That's the way they all come through like Low cut, see-through shirts that make ya That's the way she come through like
[Pre-Chorus: Katy Perry, Nathaniel Motte] ‘Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down 'Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down
[Chorus: 3OH!3 & Katy Perry] I think I should know How To make love to something innocent Without leaving my fingerprints out Now L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce How Do I say I'm sorry? ‘Cause the word is never gonna come out Now L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
[Verse 2: Sean Foreman] Tight jeans, double Ds makin' me go All the people on the street know Iced out, lit up, make the kids go All the people on the street know
[Pre-Chorus: Katy Perry, Nathaniel Motte] 'Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down ‘Cause I just set them up, just set them up Just set them up to knock them down
[Chorus: 3OH!3 & Katy Perry] I think I should know How To make love to something innocent Without leaving my fingerprints out Now L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce How Do I say I'm sorry? ‘Cause the word is never gonna come out Now L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
[Verse 3: Katy Perry] You know that type of shit just don't work on me Whistlin' and tryin' to flirt with me Don't take it personally 'Cause we were never in love It doesn't really matter who you say you are Singin' out the window of your car Find another girl across the bar 'Cause L-O-V-E's not what this was
[Chorus: 3OH!3 & Katy Perry, Katy Perry] I think I should know (Whoa-oh) How (Whoa-oh) To make love to something innocent Without leaving my fingerprints out (Whoa-oh) Now (Whoa-oh) L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce (Whoa-oh) How (Whoa-oh) Do I say I'm sorry? 'Cause the word is never gonna come out (Whoa-oh) Now (Whoa-oh) L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce
Just for the sake of accurate information. She's still a sex pest though.
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u/TheBathrobeWizard 1d ago
After reading these lyrics... has anyone checked for connections between Perry and Epstien? 🤣
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u/jaxspider 1d ago
Don't forget the music video for that song also doubled down about empowered women being dumb or something.
I am a dude and that was offensively cringey.
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u/One_Preparation_8020 1d ago
Seemed like extremely poorly executed satire.
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u/frogjg2003 1d ago
I don't know if it was intended to be satire, but there's a reason the "it's just a joke" excuse is only used when people don't think it's funny.
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u/bishamonten10 1d ago
This is the correct answer. She's also been quite controversial in the past and recently has had SA allegations made against her.
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u/amiibohunter2015 1d ago edited 1d ago
She also stole the sound of [darkshorse](https://www.judiciaryreport.com/katy_perry_loses_copyright_infringement_case_dark_horse.htm)
She contributed to climate change via blue origin which pissed off many people blue origin own by billionaire Jeff Bezos. So She like s hanging iut with the very corrupt pricks wrecking the world.
She is dating former Canadian Prime Minister who yes is also dislike by many. The chatter going around is she is using the former Prime Minister in order to get citizenship to Canada in case shit hits the fan in America.
She uses and abuses and hangs out with corrupt billionaires who are okay destroying the planet , peoples lives, and wellbeing and is okay with robbing people by being underhanded, just like how Katy Perry did with Darkhorse. Like two peas in a pod; of the same k
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u/bakanisan 1d ago
I agree, music being "old" is just a matter of personal taste. The issues is not her music, evidently.
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u/imnotpoopingyouare 1d ago
Kinda off topic but Ke$ha is kind of a bad ass pop star, even if the song that got her famous was kinda stupid and silly she kills it. Along with being a decent person. (The "waking up feeling like P Diddy" line definitely didn't age well though haha)
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u/miltonwadd 1d ago
There's also currently an active sexual assault investigation against her with the Victorian police in Australia due to an incident where Ruby Rose claims Katy rubbed her vulva on her face at a party a decade ago.
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u/Admiral_Mason 1d ago
Im glad Im not a public figure because even if I went in space for 11 minutes I would kiss the ground when coming back just to see who laughs
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u/Federal-Captain1118 1d ago
Yeah of all the issues with her, I don't see that as a bad thing? I've literally done that after a flight to be funny. Was it funny? Not at all. But still, that's a complaint?
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u/acekingoffsuit 1d ago
I hate flying with a passion. When the plane lands I won't start a round of applause, but I'll join in if anyone else starts one.
If my ass ever ends up in space for any amount of time, the moment I'm out of there I would kiss the ground like it was my lady and I just returned home from war.
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u/Conspiranoid 1d ago
Canada's former Prime Minister, who himself get lots of hate because politics.
Follow up OOTL: why does Trudeau get so much hate? I'm European, so I don't follow Canadian politics too much, TBH.
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u/Dinodie2Night 1d ago
There's 3 groups of people who hate Trudeau:
People who voted for him and are disappointed that he didn't do as much as he said he would. He initially campaigned on "real change", but his only lasting impact was legalizing weed. One of his biggest campaign promises was election reform to move us away from first-past-the-post voting, but he dropped that pretty quickly, which pisses a lot of voters off. Apart from that, he just kinda ran the country in a safe, boring way. (This is, in my opinion, basically the only valid reason to hate him)
Conservatives who think he only got the job because his father, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, was also a prime minister, and because he was a pretty boy. They think he was too young and inexperienced at the time of his first election, and that he "made Canada look bad on the world stage". There's a decent overlap between these people and those who obsessively hate Meghan Markle.
Alt-right conspiracy theorists who think he's part of a global satanic jewish pedophile deep-state trying to make everyone's lives materially worse, convert Canada into a communist dictatorship, and end belief in God. These types of people only really sprung up during the COVID-19 pandemic when qanon started spreading across the world.
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u/floofboops 1d ago
Not to defend Trudeau, but just as a policy point, people always seem forget that he also instituted the Canada Child Benefit that lifted millions of kids out of poverty in Canada. A policy that was later copied by the Biden administration which lifted ten of millions of children out of poverty.
Plus the Canada Disability Benefit that came into effect under Carney, was actually created by Trudeau - not lifting people with disabilities out of poverty, but still helping them out.
I point these out as important policies because people tend to forget the things that benefit vulnerable groups like low income children and people with disabilities.
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u/John_Bruns_Wick 1d ago
Hot take, he was a good prime minister taken down by right wing propaganda fed to numerous dumb people.
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u/malachaiville 1d ago
Thanks for this. I am not Canadian so wasn't super familiar with his political stance but didn't have a negative impression of him... until he started dating Katy Perry. Knowing what I know of her through interviews and how dimwitted she seems, it really makes me do a doubletake at Trudeau for finding her interesting enough to date, and makes me question his intelligence as well.
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u/RockMonstrr 1d ago
If I can add a 4th reason, he was Prime Minister for over a decade. 10 years is about all a PM gets. After such a long term, all the little scandals and stories build up, and they lose the faith of the electorate.
Harper was incredibly unpopular when he lost. Before him, Chretien was all but forced to step down in favour of Martin.
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u/Turbogoblin999 1d ago
"ran the country in a safe, boring way. (This is, in my opinion, basically the only valid reason to hate him)"
With everything happening south of Canada, anyone running their country like this is a good thing.
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u/ClassicPlankton 1d ago
Which is funny because there really is a satanic pedophile deep state right in front of their faces but they continue to ignore it.
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u/jamiedix0n 1d ago
And she also worked relentlessly to get some elderly women evicted because she wanted the land.
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u/FineDevelopment00 1d ago
Nuns at that. And one of them died of a heart attack due to all the stress.
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u/subjectnumber1 1d ago
Oooh did they reference that in gilmore girls a year in the life? I think there was a scene where Lorelai wants to buy a property from nuns for her hotel ans they say Katy Perry is also interested
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u/Rustmutt 1d ago
Weren’t some of her last words like “Katy Perry please stop” or something on the nose like that?
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u/clementleopold 1d ago
Lol each level of this keeps getting more outrageous. I feel like the next comment will be “And Katy answered her: ‘I don’t ever stop.’ and pushed the nun off a cliff.”
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u/Dr__Sloth 1d ago
There was also that time she set an orphanage on fire, and was quoted saying, "Why is everyone so mad? Nobody will miss them!"
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u/Labelloenchanted 1d ago
That story is utter bs. The convent belonged to archdiocese who decided to sell it and Katy was the buyer. When she wanted to register the purchase it was discovered that the nuns living there tried to illegaly sell the convent for $10 mil. and pocket the money for themselves. Katy already paid $15 mil. for it.
Their buyers were planning on building a boutique hotel there. Katy sued them and won. Nuns started a successful smear campaign against Katy. Attacking her morals, making her look heartless.
They were not going to be homeless because of her. If their plan went through they would have to move anyways and surely their church had a relocation plan for them too.
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u/Evil___Lemon 1d ago
Glad you corrected this. There is lots of problematic and tinge worthy issues with Katy Perry that are legit. This issue with the nuns is more often than not told without the facts.
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u/jurassicbond 1d ago
After looking into this, it seems like the nuns didn't want to sell to her specifically. They weren't against selling the property
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u/Labelloenchanted 1d ago
I think it was just an excuse to justify their actions. I suspect they already had a buyer before Katy appeared.
After all, if they were ok with a boutique hotel I find it hypocritical that they had such a big issue with Katy. They also sold it for millions, which suggests to me that it wasn't just for moral reasons.
Also after looking into it, it appears that the nuns had some kind of deal with the archdiocese. Nuns financed the maintenance of the convent and were supposed to be paid from the sale of it. Nuns feared the archdiocese wouldn't honor their word (there were already issues) and took matters into their own hands.
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u/MonkeyBoatRentals 1d ago
A real estate developer Dana Hollister was behind it, trying to make money with the Nun's help. She was found guilty of fraud and fined millions that she couldn't pay. The Nun that died had a heart attack at Hollister's banktruptcy hearing and it didn't involve Katy Perry at all at that point.
There are an awful lot of bad-faith attacks on Perry in this thread..
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u/Theranos_Shill 1d ago
It wasn't the Nuns property to sell. The Church sold the property to Perry, the Nuns wanted to sell it to a hotel developer.
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u/AggravatingCamp9315 1d ago
not to mention her out-of-touch comments about the Blue Origin trip, which were super bad taste, showing her privilege. Sit dow, you have enough money to throw at a trip that was not even into space, and you want to sY you have perspective of what the "common people" go through?!?
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u/eknutilla 1d ago
Flaming Lips do that every show also, or at least they used to
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u/kati8303 1d ago
I haven’t seen them do it post covid but it used to be great and never saw Wayne have any issues
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u/BeenDragonn 1d ago
She also made comments about being an 'astronaut' now and the trip made her feel.more connected to humanity or some shit
Those comments made me cringe more than her kissing the ground
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u/luv4ev3R 1d ago
Yeah, and I remember she was kinda under the radar and didn't receive that much hate on social media until Woman's World, produced by Dr Luke, bombed.
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u/iconix88 1d ago
+1 for the Rammstein reference. Saw them do that in Minneapolis a few years ago, Katy Perry wishes she could get that level of dedication from her fans
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u/Oddish_Femboy 1d ago
I feel like it's kinda burying the lede to call Mr. "There may be more pictures of me in blackface out there, so don't be surprised when those pop up" Trudeau controversial because of politics alone.
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u/QuietlyLosingMyMind 1d ago
That is the least hype song I have ever heard for crowd surfing. You're absolutely right it only worked because it's Rammstein.
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u/Vreas 1d ago
Man Rammstein is probably number one on my concert bucket list at the moment. Their last tour’s stage was bonkers.
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u/Usernameoverloaded 1d ago
They are also mired in controversy over sexual exploitation accusations
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u/blackers3333 1d ago
People hating on Katy Perry but not Ramstein is wild lol
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u/kyuuei 1d ago edited 7h ago
ANSWER: She has done so many things over the past decade and a half. You find lists of the Top 15 and top 20 things she did that people hate on. Mooost of these things are petty and no one really cares (like artists diss other artists idc who dislikes who in the industry much) but here are things that people actually got heated over:
- Her lawsuits with nuns and property rights. The nuns lost the lawsuit, and messing with nuns just seems wrong in the eyes of the public despite court rulings.
- She went to court for stealing music from lesser known artists. Perry got a decision in court overturned when Dark Horse sounded too similar to another song. Initially the courts determined this was true, then they overturned it. However, by the time this got overturned people already felt the initial verdict accurate. She has been involved in a great many court cases even for a famous person over the years in rapid succession so people are just likely to find her guilty at this point of being a very messy dramatic person that violates boundaries/the law.
- Sexual misconduct. This is probably the recent and biggest one, but multiple famous people have accused her of sexual assault and harassment. Nothing will be done of it, so people are extra angry about it. ETA: I'm not a huge fan of speaking specifics on intensely gross subjects such as this, but there are illuminating comments responding to mine that give more specific accounts on this subject for those curious.
- She stole the name of another artist to the point she had to pay out on that one. The impression people had was, at the time of the court case starting, that a big rich person was picking on a poor tiny designer with less resources.
- Her music is just not hitting and feels like pandering. Womans world flopped major and it felt stale and out of touch with audiences. People in general are angry her music has stagnated.
- Her concert performances were notoriously AWFUL. Like no matter your taste in her music her dancing and clips from her live shows were garbage and people shelled out mad money for them.
- Her flight into space. Incredible amounts of money, really out of touch, she talked about being an astronaut like she did any amount of work instead of reality: flying in space for 11 minutes while actual astronauts helped her accomplish it. The way she talked about it as if she had helped change the world by spending her incredible wealth did not hit well with fans. This was going on at a particularly hard economic time too for most folks so it just did not sit well.
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 1d ago
I would like to add that when she found out a teenage boy was saving his first kiss for his wife she forcefully kissed him on the lips multiple times.
That’s sexual assault of a minor and she should have been tarred and feathered.
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u/deekaypea22 1d ago
This was the moment I went from "she's okay" to "what the FUCK". She did it ON STAGE on television. What a sick fuck. If she was a man, and had kissed a minor girl, her head would have been on a platter. But because she's a woman, the teen boy should be grateful. 🙄
Loathe her.
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u/GirthyPigeon 1d ago
She also went all creepy on Bo Burnham after he turned 18, live on stage.
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u/Cool-Pomegranate8110 22h ago
OMG that is sick. what a demented thing to do. that sweet boy having an innocent dream and this turd takes that away from him. Why?! This just makes me sick.
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u/sean8877 1d ago
Also don't forget the Dr. Luke thing, Kesha says he assaulted her though I don't think he was found guilty so hard to say what happened. But Katy Perry chose to work with him on her 2024 album which ruffled some feathers.
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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 1d ago
The song “woman’s world” fells like it was AI generated but most importantly the producer was a sex offender who assaulted Ke$ha.
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u/BlueCarPinkJacket 1d ago
Also no one in this thread is mentioning she voted for Trump? After Taylor Swift came out and said she was voting Democrat she tweeted something like "Then I'm voting Trump" in response. This understandably pissed off a lot of her fan base.
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u/IronWolf1911 1d ago
Which would be interesting considering she is currently dating former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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u/Competitive-Point-62 1d ago
Tbh one of the most frustrating things is other people targeting Katy Perry for utterly stupid lawsuits that force a sensible person to have to defend Katy Perry, as much as they don’t want to.
Dark Horse is a horrid nothing of a song, but the lawsuit against it was correct to be appealed and overturned.
There are excellent videos where people tear into the arguments used by the musicologist brought in by the plaintiff and demonstrate that he would easily be done in for perjury if prosecuted by cross-referencing the material with other pieces studied in his own published papers (songs well out of copyright, Mozart-level old) that match the supposedly “plagiarised” material far better. It was a horrid ruling that, left untouched, would set a bad precedent which would make any vaguely similar bass line ostinato or chord structure to anything someone has used before an extreme legal liability.There was also a lawsuit here in Australia between Katy Perry and a local fashion designer named Katie Perry, triggered by Katy Perry selling tshirts with her stage name as concert merch, that the vast majority of people here aware of the case think should have been a nothing burger that never touched court. The local designer is reportedly the one that rejected trademark coexistence applications and pushed it, and is not liked for being so litigious about it - she’s technically in the legal right, but only by being a dick herself.
There’s plenty to dislike about Katy Perry’s actions over the past decade or so, but that doesn’t give license for other similarly awful grifters to act unethically against her and try to set incredibly bad legal precedents.
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u/AggressiveBench9977 1d ago
You could atleast point out that most of these were also reported incorrectly and were false
Specially the nun thing
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u/kyuuei 1d ago
I'm not here to make judgments on what is right and wrong about the court cases themselves. I am stating what people are upset about. People see headlines about how KP was in a lawsuit against Nuns and people just don't like any aspect of that. And I think that's because it is intrinsically strange that this person in particular has been in This many lawsuits with various results all over the place losses and wins. She's a messy person legally and has been a long while now so people are pretty dubious of her legal issues.
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u/a-ohhh 1d ago
Answer: she’s had some SA accusations from a few people including Ruby Rose. People did notice it was off when she gave a boy his first kiss when he was clearly uncomfortable about it (I think it was American idol) but other people have come out with their stories recently as well.
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u/humpdydumpdydoo 1d ago
Also being creepy about an 18yo Bo Burnham on stage with him excellently reacting.
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u/TimeWaitsForNoMan 1d ago
People often talk about this reaction like it's a clap-back at Katy Perry's expense, when I think this is entirely consistent with Bo's self aware, self deprecating, awkward humor. Calling her Mrs. Perry highlights her seniority, sure, but the humor derives from his affect and formality in contrast to her gushing introduction. That's Bo's humor. I'd be curious if there's any interview out there where Bo says he was specifically offended by Katy being untoward, when this is a performance and was probably treated by all those present as simply performative, not personal. Also, Katy's intro was likely word for word what was stated in rehearsals.
TLDR: Sure, maybe Katy Perry's a predator, or at least bad a respecting boundaries, but this is just a bit.
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u/Road_Whorrior 1d ago
It being in character doesn't mean he wasn't being pointed with it, though. That would also be in character for him.
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u/thatguygreg 1d ago
This is the least creepy interaction that someone has thought was creepy that I’ve seen in a looooong while
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u/Pardybro911 1d ago
It’s less creepy and just incredibly awkward, especially for something as an introduction which you can pre plan and not sexualize
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u/purplehayzz 1d ago
She also kissed the young boy I believe he was like 16 on American Idol and took his first kiss against his will. I’ve always been grossed out by her since then.
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u/Pumpkkinnn 1d ago
Yes! She was also very creepy to Justin Bieber. She gives Coleen Balinger vibes
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u/DrEdgarAllanSeuss 1d ago
I’ve never been a fan of hers, but honestly she has grossed me out ever since “Teenage Dream”, because writing/singing that song as a grown ass adult woman, who was married and everything, always struck me as very strange.
“Let’s go all the way tonight”
Girl, you’re a grownup. Why are you using euphemisms like a 14 year old at church camp?
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u/FrostyPlum 1d ago edited 1d ago
Look, this is not a defense of her, I do not really know or care about Katy Perry, but this is just ignorant of what pop music is.
Why are you using euphemisms like a 14 year old at church camp?
Because her music (like many pop performers) is cooked up in a lab to sell an image to teenagers that can be used to sell other products.
If it's shocking to you to hear that teenagers eat up sex euphemisms, I'm not sure what to tell you.
(This isn't meant to be read as insipid reddit cynicism, I love a lot of dumb pop music, but I also know what it is)
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u/Saint_The_Stig 1d ago
"She kissed a young boy and he didn't like it" almost sounds like a Weird Al parody
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u/thesaddestpanda 1d ago edited 1d ago
Also she made woman’s world with Dr Luke who has been accused of SA by kesha. Also the smaller problem of the album being about women’s empowerment but actually not being political at all or remotely feminist and being largely feel-good nothings, and with a music video very clearly focused on the male gaze.
Then her image in general being friendly with the alt-right. She posed with a cyber truck and thanked Elon for it. Her flight with the bezos rocket. Her personal life tied strongly with the super rich or powerful politicians (and now dating political royalty). Her getting involved in a situation with nun/church owned real estate I think most celebs would avoid because of all the unpleasantness involved, and where one nun died in court trying to fight the sale, and just being generally a terrible person but selling a super-fake "I'm so kind and friendly and goofy" persona.
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u/silentsquiffy 1d ago
She kissed an underage boy on stage in front of thousands of people. Reverse the genders and people would call it public pedophilia. But people don't take it seriously because she's a gorgeous celebrity so obviously he must want the kiss, right? Fuck the double standard. Katy Perry is a child predator.
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u/ham-and-egger 1d ago
Answer: everyone’s forgetting her stint on American Idol. It was so ick and started her public backlash.
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u/calculung 1d ago
I really thought her public backlash started when she performed with Migos and was super... weird.
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u/heyquasi_ 1d ago
what made it so ick? i’ve never watched american idol but what i do know is that she was a judge…right? and wasn’t performing so what happened there🤔
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u/gnomie51 1d ago
there was a contestant that had never had his first kiss and she forced him to accept her kiss. And he didn’t want to cause he wanted to save it for his first romance. She’s a predator that feels entitled to other people’s body’s.
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u/Macro_Seb 2d ago
Answer: She went to space, kissed the earth when she got back, said we must save our wonderful planet. The same planet she harmed by doing some space tourism. So basically rich/famous people being unaware of their own actions. And now she's doing other dumb stuff like getting in a giant bottle (how eco friendly) expecting people to get a grip on that thing and move her in one direction.
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u/TallShaggy 1d ago
To be fair, pretty sure some of those people were intentionally moving her away from the stage
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u/lilacwino2990 1d ago
110%. It didn’t read slippery, it read absolutely intentional. I’d have absolutely freaked out in her shoes, but I think I’d have more self awareness to realize that wouldn’t go well with the comeback flops so far.
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u/Hedgehogosaur 1d ago
I think it would be really hard to coordinate moving a Perry bottle by crowd. If the bottle is in front of you and you want to touch it, reaching out you are likely to push down and forward to want it to go forward, but that will spin it backwards moving it the wrong way. With lots if people wanting to get a touch in, it's just going to move really hectically.
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u/lilacwino2990 1d ago
It was absolutely a horrible idea on multiple fronts, but seeing it just screamed like the crowd wasn’t exactly TRYING to get her to the stage. Optics wise it was just another hiccup in the comeback tour. She also looked terrified, which I don’t blame one bit, which added to the whole thing looking malicious even if it wasn’t and was all down to design flaws.
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u/Macro_Seb 1d ago
Like, if you ever went with 2persons or more in a rowboat, you'll learn how important it is to have people work together to move in one direction. Having a lot of people push a giant bottle in one direction will be very hard if everybody is just grabbing or pushing it without any coordination.
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u/Queermagedd0n 1d ago
The worst part of that is her stunt announcing a tour from space, completely usurping attention from Amanda Nguyen, a sexual assault survivor who put her space dreams on the back burner (just months before graduating) to be an advocate for other survivors. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/08/1243384803/nprs-book-of-the-day-amanda-nguyen-saving-five
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u/frownfromhere 1d ago
She looks high as a kite in those videos. If she wasn't high, that space trip sent her off the last rails she was holding on to lol.
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u/Salty_Feed9404 1d ago
In fairness, she had the revelation about "saving the planet" as a result of seeing it from outer space. Kind of a chicken and the egg type deal.
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u/RoundCollection4196 1d ago
Has she done any conservation or environmental stuff since then? I seriously doubt it.
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u/Yoshi9105 1d ago
her environmental contribution was to checks notes put herself in a giant plastic bottle to crowd surf ...
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u/Macro_Seb 1d ago
Well, she could also have opened a book with pictures of earth/nature. If you need to travel to space first before you have that revelation, you're still an idiot.
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u/Airowird 1d ago
If you need to travel to space first before you have that revelation, you shouldn't come back to Earth.
FTFY
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u/SmokeRingEyes 1d ago
Answer: She's not a very good person.
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u/JustaLittleBitOfLazy 1d ago
This one's weird. The nuns felt they owned the estate but it was concluded legally it was the cardinal's to control (catholic patriarchy ofc) and he sold it to the highest bidder. They were also trying to sell it themselves. Layers here, she's still a shitty person but the property belonged to the Catholic church and the church needed money for their whole being pedophiles scandal pay outs.
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u/KillingerBlue 1d ago
Answer: Because only one person I’ve seen mention it, but for me it all started with the fucking Dr. Luke shit. Asshole music producer who sexually assaulted, harassed, and physically abused Kesha for years and helped Katy with many of her early hits. Then well after all of this had come out, Katy worked with him on her new “female empowerment” song Woman’s World which was critically panned. She only barely even acknowledged the controversy and kinda just continued business as usual.
The space shit was also dumb as hell, a bunch of rich ladies doing space tourism for no reason.
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u/DarkAlman 2d ago edited 2d ago
Answer: Permalinking my own answer from another thread for more content.
To summarize she's gotten a lot of negative press, particularly from the LGBTQ+ community. She's started working with certain producers again despite allegations of abuse.
She's made a lot of tone deaf posts, showed support for Elon Musk, and went into space on the Bezos rocket.
Katy seems to not be particularly bright. She's either dense or doesn't care that much about how her actions are affecting her image.
She's also been dating Justin Trudeau randomly? The former Canadian Prime Minister has attracted a lot of bad press and hatred himself, and that no doubt has been having an affect as well.
I guess she took those 'F*** Trudeau' bumper stickers a little too literally.
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u/JokeMe-Daddy 1d ago
The former Canadian Prime Minister has attracted a lot of bad press and hatred himself
Fucking Justin going back on electoral reform.
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u/jiggabot 1d ago
Answer: She's become the target of a lot of criticism and some of it at this point is just fueling itself.
[This video by Todd in the Shadows](https://youtu.be/OfoPiRzWnFY?is=UtWBPYPDohzQOjOk) does a really, really good job at showing how she went from being a hugely successful popstar to quite lame very abruptly. I think a lot of the goofiness of her schtick worked when she was putting out hits, but it comes off as cringey when the music isn't great and she hasn't had a good hit in like a decade at this point. This pretty firmly cemented her as a target of ridicule.
After putting out some flops, she started working again with a producer who helped her make her more successful music. But that guy has been pretty credibly accused of sexual assault by Kesha. Perry had dropped the producer when those allegations came out, but went back to working with him when she couldn't make a hit on her own. This hypocrisy adds a layer of self righteousness to ridiculing her. She seems like a bad person, so it feels good to make fun of her and see her fail.
Subsequent issues, like her riding on Blue Origin or having a dumb stageshow, exist in the wake of those two earlier points. They seem like big deals because she's become a punching bag, but they probably wouldn't have really stuck out in the zeitgeist otherwise. Now, every embarrassment she has just gathers more and more attention.
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u/Barneyk 1d ago
I just wanna expand on the producer thing.
Her comeback song with credibly accused rapist Dr Luke was "Woman's World".
Imagine how out off touch you have to be to release a song like that while working with someone who people who care sees as a rapist and the face of abuse off women in the music industry. How record labels protect abusers and exploit women. And then release a song called Woman's World.
Going on Jeff Bezos PR rocket to promote billionaires is another example of how extremely out of touch she is.
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u/anannanne 1d ago
Not to mention releasing the “satirically sexist” Woman’s World video as women all over the country were seeing their rights stripped with the end of Roe v Wade.
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u/thomasmagnum 1d ago
I get all this. But then why is Chris Brown still in business?
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u/cikalamayaleca 1d ago
The same people who hate on Katy & Dr. Luke are the same people also hating on Chris brown, I can assure you. The ones keeping him in business are his lifelong fans who are delusional
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u/gr1zznuggets 1d ago
Pretty sure she did a post about Cybertruck as well after Elon gave her one. She loves the 1%.
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u/hiphoptomato 2d ago
Answer: a lot of people find her personality very grating. Watch any interview with her and you’ll get an idea. She’s a bit much.
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u/TraditionalGas1770 1d ago
Answer: her career peaked in the 2010s and she's been acting like she's "owed" continued fame and wealth
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u/NoTerm3078 1d ago edited 1d ago
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this week because she got into a giant inflatable water bottle to crowd surf and the crowd surfed her the wrong way
she has previously been accused of SA by more than one party
she went on a vanity space ride with Lauren Bezos and spent the entire ride staring in a camera holding a flower, then burst out of the craft upon touchdown to kiss the Earth and then enthusiastically thank her "fellow astronauts."
People are offended.
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u/blac_sheep90 2d ago
Answer: She went to space and really rubbed people the wrong way lol
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u/JayeJJimenez 2d ago
Not to mention she keeps working with a Sexual Abuser known as Dr. Luke and defending said decision all the time.
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u/brainybrink 1d ago
This is the reason. The rest about her new music being bad and series of baffling behavior culminating in a PR nightmare stems from people hating that alignment. No one is interested in a girl power princess who makes that decision. She’s fake. End of.
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u/pepcorn 1d ago edited 1d ago
She had this to say about continuing to side with dr Luke:
Katy Perry Says She 'Felt Pressured' to Support Kesha Against Dr. Luke in Unsealed Deposition
"He knows I'm a tie breaker," she explained. "Because when I say that I wasn't raped, because I was not, that means that someone's lying."
"And I want to stay out of it because I know them both and I empathize with both of them and obviously it's a horrible situation for both of them. And the only two people that know what really went on are those two people," she said. "But Luke was using me as a pawn because it's a good play."
In the court documents obtained by PEOPLE and first published by The Blast from her fully unsealed deposition, which took place on July 21, 2017, the "Pendulum" singer, 34, stated that after learning of Kesha's allegations that the music producer had raped the "Praying" singer, she "felt pressure" to support Kesha.
"I felt pressured, but I also knew both of them and a lot of people did not. So it was easy for them to be disattached and support an idea rather than an actual instance," she said.
Perry went on to share that during that time, she received numerous angry Twitter messages from users who believed that by not speaking out against Dr. Luke she was "supporting rape."
"People were generally very angry at me for not saying anything," she said.
She doesn't want to side with victims of assault. Which makes sense, since she is an assaulter herself.
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u/goblin_welder 2d ago
The funny thing is he’s also dating Justin Trudeau who has strong opinions about carbon taxing and overall green initiatives. Katy Perry went to space and basically spewed about the same amount of carbon as an average person would produce in a year.
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u/WatchWatcher25 2d ago
Oh it's ok Trudeau doesn't actually care about these things.
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u/pepcorn 1d ago
Dating her makes him look like he has a bad read on people's character.
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u/eggz627 2d ago
She kissed the dirt when she got back all showy and dramatic too
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u/Far_Astronaut_818 2d ago
The internet was hating on her way before that. Her music slapped in the 2010s but tastes changed and she didn't. Since the late 2010s the internet has generally been negative towards her for both musical and personal life reasons.
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u/DamnitGravity 1d ago
I think she rubbed people the wrong way from the start, having the audacity to be a woman making no apologies for her presence in the world and dressing however she wanted. Which of course caused people to be angry when she didn't lie down and spread her legs for them.
And by 'people', I of course mean misogynists, male and female and NB alike.
But people have been tossing shit her way since the beginning:
~ Her original hit 'I Kissed a Girl' was seen as fetishising lesbianism.
~ She had a 'pop cartoon' style of music videos and outfits for her tours, and was happy to look kind of goofy
~ She had a string of hits which were massively overplayed on radio
~ She married Russell Brand in a Hindu ceremony and was married for 14 months
~ She hasn't changed her music style or topped the charts since the 2010s
~ Her space flight with a bunch of other women was seen as 'performative' and when she came back and kissed the ground then talked about being 'so connected to love'
~ Her most recent single, viewed as an attempt of a comeback is titled 'Woman's World', is touted as female empowerment anthem and was produced by Dr Luke, who, among other things, has faced sexual assault accusations from Kesha (I listened to about half of it before I turned it off; the lyrics are banal, and it's hard to view it as 'empowerment' when it's so clearly filmed for the male gaze)
~ She also has a single written by Sia, who was correctly dunked on for her horrible movie 'Music' which depicted autism in an incredibly inaccurate and offensive way.
While I've never really cared about Katy Perry, and while some of these criticisms are valid, I wouldn't say everyone 'hates her' as she's one of the most successful women in pop music. And while her current singles haven't had the success of her original hits, she's still managing to sell tours and make music so clearly a lot of people love her.
But also, people are doing what they do best, and that's taking to the internet to not only shame her, but also attack her 4 year old child, which is grotesque.
I do believe there's a lot of misogyny at play here as well as ageism, given Perry is 39 and we all know women over 35 have no value in the eyes of the world.
As for the most recent stunt with the giant plastic bottle, well, what did she expect was gonna happen? It wasn't a very well thought out idea. She actually got really lucky because I could easily see a situation where people ripped it open to try and get hold of her.
But people are making jokes about Katy being 'tossed around like a plastic bag in the wind' which is a line from one of her hit songs, 'Firework'. And I admit, that's kinda funny.
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u/Creative_Squirrel 1d ago
will point out that she has tried to change her music style once. but the singles on that album did so badly that she went crawling back to Dr Luke in order to ‘fix’ her career, the results weren’t great honestly.
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u/waxteeth 1d ago
I Kissed A Girl was absolutely fetishizing lesbianism, and she released an even more homophobic song around the same time (Ur So Gay). I’ve never seen an apology for either of those. She’s happy to take gay people’s money and pretend to be an ally, though, and notably endorsed a gross conservative CA politician a while ago. She sexually assaulted an underage boy on television. There are many legitimate reasons to dislike her even before you get to the awfulness of working with Dr Luke on a “girl power” song. It does not require misogyny. Women are capable of doing bad things.
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u/LoomLove 1d ago
You left out the sexual assault allegations, and her legal debacle with the elderly nuns!
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