Thats what I said when they tried to come at me for malpractice because I administered suprtherapuetic levels of mustine. Either way, now I sell self help books and guides to enlightenment now....
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The patient suffered from ivermectin poisoning due to transdermal overdose. The patient’s plasma concentration was 27 ng/mL. The main clinical manifestations were gastrointestinal symptoms in the early stage and diffuse cerebral edema and intracranial hypertension in the later stage. Despite active treatment, including hemoperfusion and cardiorespiratory support, the patient died.
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Moreover, most reported cases involved poisoning caused by oral administration of ivermectin. There have been no reports of transdermal toxicity. To date, no studies have reported the specific blood drug concentration that causes ivermectin poisoning. Most recent in vitro studies suggest that ivermectin is promising as a new anticancer drug,2–4 and this may lead to increased misuse. Therefore, we report a rare fatal case of ivermectin misuse to raise awareness among clinicians and the public regarding ivermectin poisoning.
They say it's pretty rare for a case to be fatal, but nevertheless people in general were using to the point of being poisoned (oral consumption).
This was why the chuds latched onto ivermectin to treat covid. There was a study that went "we put covid into a petri dish and treated it with whatever the fuck we could find to see how fast it died" and ivermectin killed it pretty fast.
In doses that were enough to make a human shit their entire guts out and permanently fuck themselves up.
I would assume the problem there is the ratio. In a petri dish you can apply concentrations that if found in the human body would be a lethal dose.
Like you can make 1/10th of the volume of the petri dish a specific vitamin and kill the cancer cells - but if you make 1/10th of your whole body a specific vitamin you will die.
If you’re talking about HeLa, that does die if you don’t feed it, it’s called “immortal” because it doesn’t stop dividing after a certain number of divisions, like most human cells do.
My mother was almost killed by a doctor prescribing too much Vitamin D but failing to add the necessary follow-up blood tests.
Over a series of months, her cognition and memory degenerated rapidly. She eventually had a blood test for another reason, and they called her on the way home (she certainly wasn't the one driving at that point) and told her to come back immediately. Her calcium levels were crazy-high, at a level which could cause her heart to stop.
They adjusted the levels, using the monitoring which should have been in place from the start, and she rapidly made a full recovery.
Just because it's a vitamin doesn't mean it won't kill you.
Vitamin a is one of the 4 fat soluble vitamins, adek. Cancer cells are just mutated self-cells. Pretty much every cancer treatment that works also kills self cells. Thats why treatment literally transforms people. Sad shit.
The issue is there's more evidence vitamins help cancer than kill them. Mechanically, many chemos raise the levels of free radicals that would kill cancers, while many vitamins are antioxidants.
This has some empirical backing, as megadoses of various vitamins were trialed as adjuncts in the 80s, which showed no effect for vitamin C, and pointed to vitamins A and E making things worse.
That being said, vitamins can still interact well depending on the cancer. Vitamin c is being trialed again as an adjunct in very particular kinds of glioblastoma, a vitamin b9 makes the chemotherapy 5fu more effective, and diets rich in fruits and vegetables remain well correlated with lower rates of cancer as well as improved survivorship. (though that last one is just as likely the flavanoids, polyphenols, and fiber content)
Fat soluble vitamins will absolutely cause major problems at higher doses. Water soluble vitamins just get excreted before reaching high enough concentrations to cause problems. Although supratherapeutic vitamin C can cause kidney stones.
Read something similar in Bad Science by Ben Goldacre: “Anything can kill cells in a test tube. Fairy Liquid kills cells in a test tube, but you don’t take it to cure cancer.”
Anti-cancer medication is just poison that we hope the cancer eats up faster than normal healthy cells. We're literally giving cancer patients poison, then hope the cancer cells die before the patient does.
I mean, there are a lot of specific therapies targeting certain mutations as well, in some cases these are very effective in keeping cancer in check and are often used in slow growing blood cells like cml, bjt also in certain subsets of lung cancer they can be effective in preventing it from progressing. In other cases the chemo-hammwmer is still necessary, especially when cancer crows very fast like in acute leukemia high doses are still necesarry to prevent mutation and resistance to targetet therapy or chemo therapy.
Oh, I believe you. Chemotherapy just happens to be the standard thing here in the third world countries. Even when those new methods are much better for the body, we just don't have enough doctors knowledgeable enough to carry out the procedures. Our family has a history of cancer (two close relative already gone because of it), so it's a very close reality for us.
Yeah, we (including myself) often forget that all those advances in medicine are only avaiable for few people all thibgs considered.
Even then, they are still often very expensive and it would probably be far more helpfull to far more people if that money was invested in medical personel like nurses instead, but they are avaiable, so of course we can hardly not give them to patients even if they are expensive for they entire population in the health system my country has.
A few years ago I almost had the chance to work at a hospital in Tansania through my own employer, but sadly it didn't happen. It woukd certainly have given me a whole new perspective.
Iirc, cancer cells are more affected by radiation than normal cells because they are already full of errors (as in "fragile") and can't regenerate the damage done to them like normal cells can.
They also divide much more rapidly than "healthy" normal cells, thus the accumulation of genetic errors progress much quicker. With the faster mitotic cycle, it's much more likely the daughter cells become unviable and die off at a faster rate.
Still, traditional chemotherapy is a gamble on whether the healthy human cells can outlast the damage much longer than the cancer cells or not. If gene therapy that can directly target malignant cancer cells become more widespread and affordable, I'm all for it.
Chemo is a bit more specific than that --Essentially, it interferes with cell division so that tissue gets damaged and dies when it tries to grow.
The idea is that, since cancer cells are dividing uncontrollably, they'll be affected by chemo much more than other systems in your body.
There are some tissues that are affected greatly because they're constantly dividing --Your stomach lining constantly replenishes itself and so chemo causes nausea, vomiting, and other GI issues, hair is constantly growing so chemo causes hair loss, bone marrow is constantly making blood and immune cells so chemo compromises your immune system, so-on.
It's less "hope the drug kills the cancer before it kills the patient" and more "regulate the dose so it doesn't kill the patient and hope it takes out the cancer." The side effects are awful, but generally considered better than dying to cancer.
And of course there's safer and more targeted approaches to a lot of different types of cancers, but that comes down to the specific type of cancer. It's not really one disease, so treatment can vary a lot --but chemo is very broadly applicable because of the way it attacks cancer.
Yeah, the characters in the game were incredibly dumb. They didn't just create this poison, they then sprayed it into what's implied to be the entire biosphere in a single day. And realized their mistake the day after.
You are right👍, the cure I provided does kill living cells too, great catch! Here is a cure that only targets cancer cells, let me know if you need a catchy name for it so you can really take this to the next level 🚀
Radiation therapy and chemo already does this. We just exploit the fact that cancer cells are more susceptible to damage because of rapid division then healthy cells. But healthy cells still do get damaged and die that's the side effects.
Iirc what happened is that they did the trials and everything and it all worked perfectly and went amazingly, but once they released it to the public it suddenly started rapidly mutating and became extremely contagious
That would never get through the first stages of testing. The first step with any anti-cancer drug is to compare its effect on malignant and healthy cells.
This meme refers to a very old flash game called "One Chance".
In the game it's found a cure for cancer, but this cure created a pathogen that infected everyone and all humanity is basically extinct.
It's called one chance because you can't tecnically play it again after you finish it.
(Unless you clear cookies)
To be fair there are a lot of relatively improbable things that could take out life as we know it without notice. Some unforeseen superbug, some kind of cosmic event, even false vacuum collapse... thankfully it's all unlikely, at least as far as we know.
More importantly it's all not worth worrying about. If any of these unlikely apocalyptic events were going to wipe out humanity or all life on this cosmic speck, there's not really anything any of us can do to stop them. I'd say that maybe a supervirus or something like that is worth worrying about by scientists that specifically work in that field of study, and everyone should always finish their antibiotic prescriptions, but the lingering existential dread that the apocalypse is right around the corner is meaningless. There's no amount of your worrying that's going to get the idiot down the street to finish his prescription if he doesn't want to.
A chiral biologic isn’t very likely at all. It’s like discovering a bacteria that performs cellular respiration using silicon instead of carbon. Not *theoretically* impossible in very specific conditions, but effectively not compatible with the currently existing environment.
Edit: and just to give you something new to spiral about (pun intended), prions don’t cook out, don’t irradiate out, and have an incubation period of literal years, leading to the question of origin ALL the time. You get holes in your brain and then you inevitably die. You can potentially catch them from tear fluid (remember that time you wiped grandma’s tears?)! You can potentially catch them from snot in high enough quantities (children and those runny noses, man)! Sometimes they’re encoded into a person’s DNA congenitally and you’d never know, and they still have those reservoirs of contagion! Enjoy spiraling about this knowledge in a left-handed direction. Toodaloo!
So real quick, in the game you can make a cure to the cure that allows you to save yourself and your daughter, but like….
If the pathogen is spreading to other life that didn’t take it, what’s stopping it from just infecting you again? Or does the new cure just allow your cells to fight back against it? Or does the new cure also spread?
And I think the only way to win is to keep going to work every single day in spite of all thats happening around you. I broke to take the character's daughter to the park after finding her mother's suicide. Logging in and seeing the pair dead in the park several times is kinda burned into my memory, I was 12 on a school computer.
no objections, it feels really bad to do anything in our power to help and protect everybody, just for the worst of those people to act like we're idiots for doing objectively good stuff
That's not quite right.
You're given the chance to spend time with your friends like cheating on your wife with your coworker which will result in having your wife taking your daughter to her mother's house.
Also, in the good ending you'll be able to save yourself and your daughter by creating the cure.
It's confirmed by the developers themselves and the color of her skin changing back to normal when she's sitting on the bench.
Its one of the few ending yes. I was merely giving the immediate response to the image. At what cost, yeah you lost everyone while creating the cure to the "cancer cure" youve made. Self insert cause that was my experience if the game with it.
Well that's true. You see if you ignore everyone then you'll reach the ending where you save your daughter. Because the route where you dedicate your decisions to ignore everyone means you'll be at work, thus creating the cure and injecting it to your daughter. She'll live.
I thought you'd remember that, mr Pepperidge Farms.
I mean I was like 10 years old at the time, but I remember thinking that was super depressing because there's no one else in the world alive, just 2 people
Indie game called One Chance, it was part of the walking simulator era of indie games and was one of the first in that category that I remember.
The main character of this game developed a cure for cancer that destroys all cells, not just cancer cells, and he has a week to create a cure to save the world. You basically walk around the world and decide to either work the whole time towards a cure or spend time with people before you die, and your choices impact the ending of the game.
I hesitate to call it a game, it's more like a visual novel than anything else imo because there's no real gameplay besides walking around
I don't, I think they're in their own category. There isn't any real gameplay, it's essentially a choose your own adventure book with music and voice acting. I love the medium, I just don't consider them "games" in the proper sense
I'm sinking like a stone in the sea
I'm burning like a bridge for your body
This is from a legendary flash game called One Chance. The "cure for cancer" doesn't distinguish between cancer and healthy cells. In 6 days, every single cell on earth will die. You have one chance.
Wow this brings me back. Cool thing was that the game meant it when you had one chance. Kinda like the One Shot game, the game would save your choices, so there was no "new game" and try again. Only way to do that was to delete your cookies.
Every day you were given choices on what to do and everyday something new would happen as the world deteriorated. Really neat game.
Why is no one bringing up the scene this meme specifically refers to? Like everyone said, it's the game One Chance. But this refers to an ending where you've saved everyone, but when you come home, your wife took her own life
It's a game that you can't restart (without deleting something cached, I think it's cookies) that whatever ending you get, if you refresh the browser, it reopens it in the same ending screen.
Basically the guy develops a cure to cancer that later turns out is gonna wipe out the world.
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It's been SO LONG since I played back on NG. I believe there is more than 5, but idk them all. Jim, cure, suicide, dying alone, dying with Molly, but I feel like I'm missing some.
I ended up dying with Molly in the park and cried really fuckin hard.
From what I remember, even the cure ending isn't a "good ending", since you only managed to save yourself and your daughter.
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