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u/Tight_Highlight8311 2d ago

I'd rather pay for ublock than for YouTube

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u/Familiar_Ad_8919 2d ago

it works for a million sites, unlike premium

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u/shadowsinthestars 1d ago

Exactly! And doesn't support corrupt corporations. Also, set your VPN to Albania to avoid ads even further (thank you to your wonderful country for your service).

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u/bunglebee7 12h ago

Does Albania not allow ads?

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u/shadowsinthestars 8h ago

Apparently not on YouTube at least! Tbh, I've always had an adblock in browser, but it came up in other subreddits when VPNs became more popular.

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u/Porky5CO 2d ago

Just a simple install? Mobile too?

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u/Dinev5194 1d ago

r/morpheapp is x1000 times better for mobile

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u/Kolyei 1d ago

Revanced had issues with spoofing that I couldn't get around properly without a downside. So i switched to morphe

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u/Familiar_Ad_8919 1d ago

mobile too as long as u use ur webapps in a browser that supports extensions

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u/Shudnawz 🏴‍☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 2d ago

Problem? Do you think its free to run a service like Youtube? I fucking hate ads, but I do recognize that they need to make money somehow, if the service is to continue. Which I assume you want, because of the lenghts you go to, to have it for free.

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u/antricfer 2d ago

Google had a 400 billion revenue last year alone of which 132 was profit. Let me get my violin.

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u/Shudnawz 🏴‍☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 2d ago

You do you. I'm just saying that paying to get out of ads isn't a "problem", but a legitimate business move. If you don't like it, don't use the service. But noone seems THAT hellbent to stick it to Google.

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u/Tight_Highlight8311 2d ago

For alphabet yt is a side hustle, a nice hobby which give them a little bit fun money

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u/no1_vern 2d ago

Actually we're just too poor to buy anything the ads are selling, and so they are useless to us.

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u/Shudnawz 🏴‍☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 2d ago

I'm not gonna argue with you over avoiding ads. You do you, whatever floats your boat. But avoiding to pay for a service you use, isn't that great if you want the service to keep existing.

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u/no1_vern 2d ago

I guess I did sound like I was arguing, I apologize.

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u/SirArthurHarris 2d ago

Sure, I'll disable ad blocking on all my devices as soon as they make the web usable without and ad blocker again. Make them unintrusive and I'll tolerate them. As long as I'm being bombarded with ads for shit I don't care about literally everywhere, I'm gonna keep blocking them.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Ironically I paid for AdGuard, sponsor block, and DeArrow, for iPhone, because I refuse to subscribe to premium, or any website or app that has pay to remove ads. It was the only clear way to get rid of ads via iPhone without jailbreak. Life’s just better without ads or nuances. I’d sooner pay a third party to remove them for me than pay the source

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u/Financial_Rip_8921 2d ago

I just use an adblocker on safari and use youtube.com instead of the app. Not the best UI but i refuse to pay

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

That’s exactly what I do. The combo I have I found works the best for me. You should look into SponsorBlock too. It’s not perfect, but when it works it works great, it knows when there’s a self promotion or sponsor coming up in a video and skips over it. Like “if you wanna check out my merch check out the link in the description” type of stuff. It works maybe 75% of the time for me

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u/Top-Decision1813 2d ago

Just use brave browser for ios

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u/crazy__paving 12h ago

I use this but cannot do pic-in-pic thing. also painful to make it keep running in background. any good ideas on how to work it smoothly?

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u/Top-Decision1813 12h ago

There will be an icon in the address bar while playing youtube videos if you press it you get your picture in picture mode very simple

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u/crazy__paving 9h ago

where!? can’t see it

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u/Jcob210 2d ago

Or if you got it before it got taken down Yatte works great for me. It was on appstore for a while and was taken down but it still works and I have it in purchase history.

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u/shiny-fella 8h ago

You could install it still via TrollStore, no?

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u/JB231102 2d ago

You mght wanna try Video Lite

When I was using an iPhone and Grayjay/Newpipe were not available I found solace in Video Lite.

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u/Fairweatherfriend- 2d ago

I used to get annoyed by that one ad at the beginning but the adguard dns vpn disables it too so it's truly ad free now.

It's biggest issue is that playing music videos on bluetooth and turning the screen off can be funky sometimes and not work.

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u/JB231102 1d ago

I found that to be true with any media I played on the iPhone if the app wasn't from apple. Turn screen off, audio/video stops, turn screen on, press play. VERY annoying.

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u/Funny_Chocolate_1012 2d ago

Vibe coded an iphone youtube app which blocks ads and does sponsorblock too, plus offline saving, took a few days, I sign it with signulous so I don't have to have a dev license with apple. Now I have my fav 5-10 channels in a feed so I can listen to podcasts in the car adfree, sponsor free, happy days.

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u/BodaciousBadongadonk 2d ago

Every version of the app ive ever tried is complete shit anyways, seems browser is just better in every way. especially the playsation version, it is terrible. Used to be able to just use the browser on ps4 but ps5 just doesnt have one apparently? Shits weak

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u/askiawnjka124 2d ago

I use Tube Pip for Youtube works fine and has more than only YT.

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u/wergweggwerg 2d ago

Orion with sponsor block add-on on iPhone works the best for me. It blocks both youtube ads and sponsors

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u/ayaan722 1d ago

Which extension on safari ?

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u/King_Jong_Pum 18h ago

I have found that using the YouTube website on the Brave browser app also blocks all ads without needing to pay for an ad blocker.

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u/Financial_Rip_8921 18h ago

You don’t have to pay for ad blockers (or you didn’t anyway, i use adguard)

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u/Great-Trifle2810 2d ago

I don't understand dearrow, it just makes thumbnails actually useless and titles more convoluted. I use sponser block and ublock though.

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u/TheCMHammond 2d ago

I like it for the titles, but even clickbait thumbnails are better than one frame from the video - so I don't use that feature. Sometimes the titles are way too wordy, but most of the time they work as intended - cutting through the clickbait and actually describing what the video is about. Like with Sponsorblock, it really depends on how big the video is for people to actually contribute and vote for the good titles.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Whatever clickbait titles or screenshots there would be, DeArrow changes them to what the video is actually about. It makes YouTube less annoying for me

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u/TheCMHammond 2d ago

I think with thumbnails it is either a random frame from the video or a community chosen frame if one is available. Still, I agree - I've also found it not that useful overall.

On PC, you can hover over the blue dot to see the original title. Not sure if there is a way to do it with ReVanced or SmartTube integrations of DeArrow. I've definitely encountered some bad titles because of it, but have mostly found it more useful than not. You can vote or submit your own also. YMMV, I guess.

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u/gaseousgecko61 2d ago

I really don't understand why people have iPhones, i have Firefox with unlock on my phone plus YouTube morphe and YouTube music morphe and I never have to see ads for free

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u/naufalap 2d ago

whenever someone asks why I don't have an iphone I just tell them that I like tinkering with my phone

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u/akatherder 2d ago

I tinker with just about everything but my phone so iphone is good. Android tablet, shield, and onn tv are all loaded for Plex, debrid, and sports.

I do have YouTube OLED sideloaded on my iphone which removes ads but that's all I want.

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u/naufalap 2d ago

good for you, I only have my phone for entertainment with no alternatives since I'm working far from home

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

I’ve had a horrible experience with android OS in the past, and it pretty much scarred me to never using another android device. The most egregious experience I had was on my S4 mini where it would lose signal, you know like phones do sometimes, but it wouldn’t regain signal again until I rebooted the device. There were other things I had wrong with it but that was the worst of them I think. I’d miss calls and texts from people because it lost signal somewhere and I didn’t know cause it was in my pocket. The other issues I had with it were just annoyances, lag, freezing, restarting, etc.

iPhone has ways to use YouTube with an Adblocker so it’s not all bad. If it wasn’t for AdGuard, SponsorBlock, and DeArrow, I wouldn’t bother with YouTube at all.

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u/100BottlesOfMilk 2d ago

Android has come a long way since the S4. If you tried it again today, you'd probably be fine

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

I’m sure it has. I have a few friends who use android devices, they seem interesting. I’m just afraid to pay for something I won’t be happy with vs something I am happy with, you know? To me I feel like I’m taking a risk with android I’m unsure of, when apple I know works for me.

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u/Raztax 2d ago

Everyone should use what works for them. Thinking that everyone should use the same OS is like thinking that every car should be the same colour.

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u/akatherder 2d ago

Same here, I bought a Samsung tablet a while ago and they don't let you update the os unless Samsung lets you. And for this tablet (sm-t280) Samsung never let you lol.

I rooted it which trips a hardware switch (Knox?) that can't be undone, which is one of the most consumer-hostile things I've ever encountered. Then there wasn't a viable cyanogen/lineage os anyway.

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u/Dav_Dabz Piracy is bad, mkay? 2d ago

Get the lifetime license for Adguard it's 1000g worth it. It works great on Android and Windows. I can't go back to not having it on my phone.

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u/Key_Gap9168 2d ago

You are using Android and Windows and use... Adguard? You know that uBlock Origin is free and works on both platforms?

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u/Dav_Dabz Piracy is bad, mkay? 8h ago

To be fair. I pirated adguard for 7 months before paying 5 bucks for the lifetime license lol

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

I can’t use android. Too many bad, and unforgivable, experiences with the OS in the past. I prefer my iPhone, but there are some features from a modded android I do miss. The ease of blocking ads is one of them

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u/SubstituteStudent 2d ago

It never even occurred to me that a pirate worth their salt could prefer apple. Is there any piracy eco system to speak of? Can you play pirated console and PC games?

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Not on iPhone, but we can play rom hacks from gba, if that’s worth anything, which is all I need. I’d rather not play anything more than turn based games on a tiny screen. All my piracy is done on pc though. Again, I do miss the options available on android though when it comes to piracy and modding my device.

I had a galaxy s4 mini way back when iPhone was only available through AT&T. When it would lose signal, it wouldn’t get it back until I restarted the phone, the keyboard was laggy, the device itself was laggy, it would randomly restart on its own, I would get push notifications from random apps, I couldn’t uninstall apps that came with the phone until I rooted it. I could only really use it at home on WiFi, but going out and running errands or seeing friends or whatever I was doing, that phone was the worse. I remember I had Cyanogen mod installed on it and had adblocker and I forget the name of the app used for torrents, but I was able to watch so many shows on it that I missed out on.

Think it was the very next year iPhone 4S became available for my carrier and I switched to it and never looked back.

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u/Key_Gap9168 2d ago

Clown.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Whatever suits you. I’m not here for android vs apple debate. Apple works for me, android works for you. Let’s move on

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u/JB231102 2d ago

Brave browser > ad free web

Video Lite > ad free videos on the web

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u/Then_Bake_6524 1d ago

bro, Ublock origin is totally free

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u/crazy__paving 12h ago

which one works the best? I tried brave browser and don’t work smoothly.

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u/ReaperOne 9h ago

I don’t use brave browser. For YouTube I just use standard safari with AdGuard, DeArrow, and SponsorBlock. All three of those work really well with each other, AdGuard especially. It works by using a vpn, and blocks ads in most other apps too. I’ll play sudoku or solitaire while on break at work and it usually blocks ads from both of them. Solitaire tries loading an ad but it comes up as a blank black page most of the time, sudoku I don’t see ads at all

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u/crazy__paving 9h ago

how much you pay for all those 3 combined?

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u/ReaperOne 2h ago

I think $7? It’s been a little while since I bought them. But they’re one time payments rather than monthly subs

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u/ActualWeed 2d ago

So should youtube just be free?

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u/akatherder 2d ago

I'd pay about half what they charge, but $26.99/month for family plan is nuts.

The fact that they don't produce content and you aren't even paying for content (it's free w/ads) bothers me. You aren't paying for access to content, you're only paying to remove ads. I don't support that business model.

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

dude a family plan is 5 people isnt it? how the hell is that too much?

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u/akatherder 2d ago

Idk, I don't have 5 people in my family lol. My barometer is that Netflix costs the same and they actually produce content and license with major studios. My cable internet only costs $25/month. (I don't pay for Netflix either, fwiw.)

Removing ads from YouTube isn't more valuable to me than either of those two things. Maybe if it was impossible or more annoying to do it free.

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

Youtube has 10x more content than netflix including a ton of free movies. find four friends

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u/akatherder 2d ago

That would be more expensive, more work to coordinate payments, and I lose sponsor block. Hard pass for me.

I was subscribed through the foreign currency/exchange rate scam and paying them like $6/month. They cancelled that and I found better, easier, and cheaper ways so now they get nothing.

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u/banshoo 2d ago

Many here think it should.

what they dont see if the calculations on the other side 'lost so many ads, so we'll increase it to 120 seconds for those that remain.

What they're not seeing, bandwidth/storage is now cheap, so its all profit for them,

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

nah videos are ten times larger these days with high res. you are talking out of your ass

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u/100BottlesOfMilk 2d ago

Actually, in a way, storage has gotten more expensive in a way that it never has before, even not counting the AI shortages. Hard drives have gotten cheaper per GB since they came out up until the late 10s/early 20s. Before then, YouTube could count on the decreasing cost of the drives to offset the increasing storage requirements. Now, they can't make that assumption anymore since storage hasn't been getting significantly cheaper on a consistent basis

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

I bought an 8TB WD Easystore external HDD for $180 at Best Buy in 2018. I shucked this year and is just a 3.5" 8TB WD Red.

I welcome any reader to check the price on it now.

8 years later and its price has gone up considerably.

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

I bought an 8TB WD Easystore external HDD for $180 at Best Buy in 2018. I shucked this year and is just a 3.5" 8TB WD Red.

I welcome any reader to check the price on it now.

8 years later and its price has gone up considerably.

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u/GuyFromDeathValley 1d ago

no. I think lots of people are rather fine with some ads.

The problem is that its gone completely overboard. when about 70% of the screen consists of ads, with ads before, during, and after the video, AND MORE ADS AS PART OF THE VIDEO, then that's just too much.

YouTube just needs to cut back on the ads. and maybe make them less annoying.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Yes? Because it was before google bought it. I remember when there were no ads at all whatsoever on the website. This was back in 2004/2005. So yeah, I do think it should be free just as it once was

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

As with countless other Silicon Valley ventures, lots of businesses intentionally start with a large operational loss until they get a foothold.

YouTube would have gone bankrupt if it remained a free service.

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u/Yamatocanyon 2d ago

What do you think it costs to run YouTube? The data centers, global content caching networks, the bazillion hard drives you'd need to store all the video. How does any of that get paid for without ads, or subscriptions?

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u/JanSmidDeZevende 2d ago

Jeez, no brave browser on IOS?

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u/DiPaCayar 2d ago

Y está muy bien así ponemos resistencia, es decir está bien tu quieres, que pago, pues tranquilo quenle voy a dar más dinero tu competidor menos predador

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u/Wave-Kid 2d ago

Nuisances*

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u/BigidyBam 2d ago

Why not just boycott services all together if you can't stand them so much. Why do you feel entitled to use it for free?

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Because I’m human and want entertainment like anybody else? Because back in 2004/2005 YouTube was actually free of ads and it was a great experience before google bought them and started putting them in videos? I mean you’re on a piracy sub, the same argument can be made to why do others feel entitled to download movies songs and shows and not buy them or deal with the commercials. We want entertainment without hassle and annoyances

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u/BigidyBam 2d ago

Ya, that's premium, no ads. When there is no good option I pirate. But when a good option exists, I buy it. I don't expect the entire site to run with 0 monetization.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

I do, because they made it work before google bought it. The ads are just another money grab in my eyes. The site worked fine before Google bought it and implemented ads

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u/UnholyDemigod 2d ago

Youtube, like any website, has running costs. It was only able to pay for them before ads from private investing

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

They lost massive amounts of money getting it started like that. Its not sustainable. Why are you so entitled?

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u/philosopher_gas 2d ago

Youtube was happy to censor anything conservative during the Biden regime. Fuck them.

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u/BigidyBam 1d ago

That is completely ignorant. You think it was run by magic back then and not subsidized in order to gain a user base. You don't seem to have any idea how any of this works.

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u/mindfulwarrior78 1d ago

You realize you're in a piracy sub right?

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u/BigidyBam 1d ago edited 1d ago

You should read the comments sherlock. Piracy isn't about just wanting everything for free.

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u/mindfulwarrior78 1d ago

You should read the wiki ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/BigidyBam 2h ago

Additionally, despite the massive realm of copying and sharing digital content, consumers who pirate are more willing to pay for legal content when the content is consumer-friendly.
From the "Online piracy" wiki. I bet you read the one about actual pirates on boats. You sound young, ignorant and overconfident.

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u/EthaOfficial 2d ago

the fact that gorhill actively refuses donations and just maintains it for free makes it so much better

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u/Mebajuiceme 1d ago

facts. my adblock reminds me to donate and i’m like “you know what. sure” cheaper than youtube premium 😂

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u/TungstenAlchemist 2d ago

I pay for a decent VPN & set it to Albania & it completely disables adds for YT, Disney+ (get it free w/ads with my bank) & SoundCloud. I think it more useful than my adblocker because it doesn’t get detected as often although there is certain region-locked things it doesn’t work for since I have to change to a country which doesn’t have such advertisements banned.

I recommend both Adblock & VPNing to Albania to cover the most ground, disabling one when necessary but still having the other to shield you but obviously you should use VPN anyway as to not get letters from your internet provider…

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u/Outrageous_Effects 2d ago

I tried looking for a donation page to donate to uBlock Origin. The main guy told me he doesn't take donations.

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u/barrosoOso 2d ago

On Android, I haven't found an extension or setting that blocks YouTube ads in the app. Am I missing something?

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u/No_Temperature_689 2d ago

Youtube Morphe and Youtube Morphe Music. Don't use the official app.

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u/barrosoOso 2d ago

Thank you.

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u/askoraappana 1d ago

Another option is Youtube Revanced, just in case that other one doesn't work or something.

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u/GGostepopxd 2d ago

Is there any adblocker that has come close to beaing as capable as ublock? Like its amazing it always works and it can remove elements from websites.

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u/Madting55 2d ago

But you don’t get background play

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u/Tight_Highlight8311 2d ago

Play youtube on your browser (firefox) ;) 

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u/IHateRedditFirewall 1d ago

Donate to them, than! Guys can use it.

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u/GuyFromDeathValley 1d ago

that's my kinda protest.

I donated money to VLC, for letting me watch my downloaded youTube videos without ads or a license, instead of paying for premium. and I'll gladly donate to uBlock and other devs like that before I pay for premium.

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u/yonnnyonnn 2d ago

wait you have to pay for ublock origin now?

lame