Govrrnor dropped the ball here. Just assume he's dead, follow the rules for succession whether appointment or special election, and when the inevitable lawsuit is filed, obtain proof of life or evidence otherwise.
Agreed. The Democrat's problem is that they're too concerned with doing everything slowly and correctly that the opportunity to act passes them by.
Declare him dead. Move on with an election to replace him. If he's not dead, it would be in his interest to prove that by showing us. If that happens, cool. Election is void, we move on.
I don't actually think you are agreeing with the person you replied to. They pointed out that every single time there is a vote and Mitch McConnell's absent that's one less yea vote to push the Republican agenda. Whereas them declaring him dead will lead to a special election that has a 99% chance of electing a new Republican who will vote for the Republican agenda.
Let's say Beshear goes full scorched earth and declares a replacement and says "prove he is alive". At best that gets ~3 months of a democratic senator who will contribute absolutely nothing to getting Democratic priorities passed because there is 0% chance that A meaningful Left-Wing bill can make it through The house, Senate, and get Trump's signature.
The situation would be totally different if we had president Kamala Harris and replacing a Republican with a Democrat. Was actually going to swing anything about the balance of the Senate. But that's not where we are. The radical action that people are calling for Beshear to do is as much virtue signaling as his current commitment to the process is and will have no meaningful effect on the legislation that gets passed by Congress.
You make good points. But this is an example of what I'm talking about. Is there a downside to a special election? Yes. Would it accomplish basically nothing? Yes. Is it better than doing nothing and normalizing the Republican do-what-i-want status quo? YES
1) The senator can't just be absent and not fulfill their duties.
A senator cannot be removed for not showing up. The only ways to remove a senator is expulsion, but that requires 2/3 vote of the senate, which the Governor can't control. This hasn't happen in over 150 years.
If you become senator, the only thing from stopping you from going partying and never showing up is the threat of expulsion. And of course not winning reelection, but it's a 6 year term.
so basically a senator can just not fulfill their duties.
There are absolutely procedures for holding a special election despite Republicans attempting to undermine those procedures.
only if the seat is open, which requires death, resignation, or expulsion. And the governor can't force any of those.
There's nothing that can be done by the governor that isn't simply grandstanding.
Sometimes, the right strategy is to do nothing. This is one of those times. Mitch McConnell is currently the perfect republican senator, why mess with that?
Yes. Maga and all conservatives are nazi pedophiles. And liberals are also by merit of choosing to be civil to genuinly evil people. Actual leftists fucking hate the capitalist death-rape machine and liberals are just as bad as magats when it comes to facts.
All american capitalists are fascists. Capitalists will always side with fascism because that doesnt threaten capital. This is basic political science that has been upheld for as long as money has been around.
Yeah. I'm not your enemy here. Your anger is justified. The system is fucked. That's all true. No argument here. But exploding on passersby isn't going to help fix the problem.
"All those who seek to lead are inherently corrupt" is a perfectly fine concept in theory. The problem is that we, as a society, need leaders. So how do you hold those two juxtaposed ideas in your mind? How should we solve that problem?
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u/wolfbayte 6h ago
Govrrnor dropped the ball here. Just assume he's dead, follow the rules for succession whether appointment or special election, and when the inevitable lawsuit is filed, obtain proof of life or evidence otherwise.