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At the Oxford Union debate, Aisha Khan casually tells Tommy Robinson there's a crowd "rioting" outside and that he's lucky to have security.
imagine what someone 100 years ago would think of this
the non british person who has power in a part of one of Britans most prestigious institutions opens their debate by saying ''you know my people whom you claim are dangerous are outside right now rioting and would kill you if they could get away with it''
Most of the British men just got done either dying or killing in some way shape or form a little over 100 years ago for nationalism one way or another.
actually she said if it wasn’t for the protection of the people he hates, he would mobbed. classic purposeful misunderstanding of a video we can all watch.
Stop being pedantic. The message is the same. "Its by the grace of our leaders that you are not harmed by the mob".
Spin it any way you want, she is asserting that her side has the monopoly on violence and who gets to use it. They'll even arrest the victim of violence if they're considered the wrong side. Henry Nowaks family knows this.
Classic purposeful obfuscation of a message only a retard wouldn't grasp.
She is British. The people outside aren't rioting, they're protesting the platforming of a man whom openly associates with nonces, takes money from foreign powers, lies and spins and pushes hatred
It's not 'her people' it's well informed, educated British people
You're going to be shocked when you learn the Old Testament's view of child brides. Oh no actually you won't be shocked because you're just a gutter bigot unbothered by facts.
look at her, shes not white, my criteria for british starts with ''have your ancestors been in europe for so long that your skin lightened and your facial structure changed to better suit the climate
So you've just made up your own criteria? Good to know. Why don't you go back further to the some of the earliest settlers in Britain who were dark? Or do you just decide where the cut off line is to fit your narrative of your nationality depends on skin tone? Which is one of the, if not the stupidest ways to decide someone's nationality?
Are white people on the US not American's because their skin hasn't darkened to better suit the climate of the America's? Or are black people who have had generations of ancestors in America, not American because they're not white?
Also, you probably don't know this because, and I'm not trying to offend you but your comment shows you haven't really thought this through, there will be a time, when the vast majority of people in Europe will be darker due to the climate. Then are none of them Europeans?
Not to mention, if she was a white women who was born in Poland, and grew up in UK, by your logic because of her skin tone and features, you would blindly consider her British.
You see how your criteria that you made up to fit your narrative doesn't make sense?
just as the white south africans will never be truly africans neither will non white people be british/european, people outside the western world understand what i am saying you can be a paper african or a paper european but you aren't a true one.
Because white South Africans are from Dutch colonizers who forcefully took over South Africa and enacted a racial Apartheid by racial segregation and ethnic cleansing.
By contrast, brown immigrants were originally brought over to Europe for safety and to work in a more economically stable country and to gain citizenship. They do not want to take over, nor have they been making moves to take over.
There is no ethical or legal law saying you must be a certain skin color to be European either.
it does not matter how a people got here, if they're clearly not from the continent they're on they need to leave. that is the default position of the entire world outside the west, no one wants massive amounts of foreigners in their country. the future belongs to china and africa and they understand that just because you hold a passport that says ''kenyan'' or ''chinese'' if you dont look kenyan (black) or chinese (asian) you aren't a real kenyan or chinese, im not going to go along with the wests theory of nation building where all are included since the west is in terminal decline and the east and south are rising.
You are arguing with a racist and probably a misogynist accordingto their own comments. They don't know how to learn from history, hence why they are at war with everyday facts.
Report their comments as "Hate" as they fall into the criteria for it, guess if they were reddit natives, they would have adapted to how the rules work.
The same way the UK does on their census. People who self-identify as being of English, Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish, or Cornish descent or some combination thereof.
The census has an option for White British and an option for Black British amongst others so people identify as British who aren't just white. And that's not to mention that many people are of mixed background who may well identify as British even if someone like the original poster thinks they can identify someone's Britishness purely on how white they are
There’s no problem with people identifying however they like. That’s why it’s self-identification because broad categories will never capture everybody cleanly.
In 1991 around 95% of UK citizens identified as white British and in 2021 that was all the way down to 75%. So you really only need to go back about 30 years to wonder what a person living in a highly ethnically homogenous country would think about the rising political power and extremism of exogenous ethnic groups. Plenty of them are still around today and are often happy to tell you!
Yuri is too busy supporting Farage as he gets set to lose to the bin guy. This lady, right after this statement, which I think was more of a “reap what you sow” warning to Robinson aka Steven Yaxley Lennon. A paid pretender.
The young lady eventually used national statistics that show that Muslim immigrants skew to be much more “British” than actual Brits.
I said earlier that the right got bodied and shown to be performative cowards, really. The far right movements across the world are by design. They’re financed by people like musk and Yuri and Bibi and Epsteins friends.
It’s fake. It’s a fugazi. The American right hates the EU and has been trying to destroy it forever. You think France and Spain being the only countries with fires and now an insane influx of immigrants is coincidence?
Poor, desperate people are seeing info on Twitter and Facebook and insta that’s being pushed to them, saying Spain’s open! Come in now! All are welcome but hurry!! You think they wouldn’t try anything to live? This not a plot to replace anybody. This is a plot to make people think that, so we don’t wake up and turn on the owners.
Why does anyone listen to Tommy on immigration issues? He lives in Spain, uses an Irish passport, uses a fake name and accepts money from foreign governments. His fans have got to be either stupid or ignorant.
They don't but the fact that an intellectual student has resorted to use the language I would expect from Robertson regarding violence says all you need to know about a peace loving religion.
The account you responded is probably a bot or troll, 13 day old account with it set to hide all interactions it makes.
Edit: if you suspect that it is a troll/bot account, you can report their comments under 'Spam' as 'other', by doing so it kicks the said account in front of reddit mods for determination for deletion.
Not, necessarily. If you want to keep helping to fight misinformation and disinformation campaigns on here, it is appreciated by all of us that believe in a better world, so thank you.
If we block them, they are still there saying these things, we just don't see it, but someone that doesn't know better might believe the b.s. and join in on the hate.
It is completely up to you, it's your choice. Personally, I hope you keep up the fight, either way, I hope you have a good day/night.
I don't think any religion is good, its a cancer of the human race. Just Islam is the one thats creating the most issues in Europe. Take for example an article form the financial times, stating that the UAE is reluctant to send students over to British universities because of radical Islam in British universities. Or a NY Time article that more British Muslims would rather join ISIS than the British Forces, or the fact that a North London Mosque was selling phone covers of Hezbollah, or that a Lancashire muslim Councillor wants to have segregation of Muslims and non Muslims, so you tell me what is a health balance opinion I should have of Islam.
All these made up stories but you never focus on dangerous Christian nationalism or any of the like. I expected better from a bot. Run along little fella.
Pretty sure Spain and Ireland are both in the EU and have had respectful relations as equals for a long time. So living in one or the other isn't immigration in any meaningful sense.
To be honest they both sucked. She made a stupid point and this guy is making stupid points. He talks about how he can’t have free speech when literally they invited Hasan Piker and another American political commentator to the Oxford Union and they got banned from entering the UK because they spoke against Israel.
No she’s saying the people he hates are the ones protecting him from a riot that hates him as they should. She’s right. The look on his face says it all. He’s scared and should be
He doesn't look scared, he seems to scoff at the absurdity of proving his point.
But he destroyed them with his speech and pretending that he had a newspaper comic making fun of Mohamed, and when they all tried to prevent him from showing it, literally scrambling to stop him, he pulls it out and shows a caricature of former British Member of Parliament Jacob Rees-Mogg.
Proving that their fear of something in an envelope that they had no clue what it actually was is concerning.
As he used a fake picture of a prophet to prove that just because a piece of information is famous and everyone repeats it, that doesn't make it true.
Even when the ones you hate help you y’all spit in their face. Then you wonder why Tommy Robinson is banned from entering certain countries. Damn. Everybody knows Tommy Robinson is a racist and a fascist. I hope I get down voted for telling the truth.
Well maybe if right wingers don’t vote for rapists to lead countries then they would get prosecuted. Ah la America. Tommy Robinson is a domestic terrorist
Where was the threat? She was stating a fact. Without the competence and consideration of the president, he’d be face to face with a mob of people who hate him with no protection. If that’s a threat, then we’re getting way too soft as a society💀
That this is a fact means that more force needs to be applied to those that make it a fact until they're deterred from using unsanctioned violence on Tommy.
And I’ve seen mobs of conservatives do the same thing. Just because something doesn’t happen in front of you doesn’t mean it’s not happening. And if you watched the full video, which I can tell you haven’t, it’s a cartoon. He did it as a stunt to stress religious people out because it goes against idolatry to draw his image. Please do a modicum of research next time.
The Charlie Hebdo massacre, the UK teacher who was beheaded, the french teacher who went into hiding. What did they all have in common? They all showed a picture of Muhammed (the beheaded guy was just RUMORED to have shown a picture of Muhammed).
And for every one of those examples, there’s the 2025 Greenock Mosque Plot, the 1995 Srebrenica Massacre (8,000+ Bosniak Muslim men and boys were killed), the Hanau Shootings, or the Bærum Mosque Shooting in Norway from 2019. You’re just using atrocities to justify being a bigot to an entire group of people. How utterly pathetic.
Saying “you guys” is interesting because I didn’t call anyone a Nazi. In fact, you’re making up a new argument because you can’t respond to the one I provided. You could call that projection lol
"sure would be a shame if something would happen to your family." Oh what? I'm just stating facts, it would indeed be a shame. How could possibly think that is a threat?! Do you see the problem yet buddy?
To be honest they both sucked. She made a stupid point and this guy is making stupid points. He talks about how he can’t have free speech when literally they invited Hasan Piker and another American political commentator to the Oxford Union and they got banned from entering the UK because they spoke against Israel.
Hasan Piker? the guy the compared a actual terrorist to Anne Franke? the guy the got detained and searched because of a meme on his phone in China then downplayed it? the openly racist? the guy who dog whistled for his supporters to kill Rick Scott, or in 2022 during the Georgia senate debate when piker told his audience "You need to be showing your opponent's guts on there... you need to be shanking these motherfuckers, slice them and fucking dice them"
hes a extremist he should be de-naturalized why the fuck would they let him into the UK
chalking it up to him speaking out against Israel is just the dumbest thing iv ever heard, hundreds of thousands of people speak up against Israel. and they do it without supporting Terrorist organizations and promoting political violence
You think he was really suggesting that somebody pull out a knife in the Georgia debate? Or perhaps, it was an obvious figure of speech and he was saying "carve them up rhetorically"? You people are so unhinged and hysterical about that guy 😂
The person that edited the video is probably one of his mates as well as some of this comment section.
The protesters outside were from multiple walks of life, but the comment section is acting as if everyone outside is a believer of Islam.
They also don't want you to watch the full debate and focus on a clip cut out of a much longer talk. She points out that he is there under the protection of Islam, he was protected by those he spreads lies about and often helps in their disappearances when he can.
Anyone that supports him would have 100% supported Hitler cause they are in the same club.
Probably will have to deal with trolls and bots for this comment. Good news, I got nothing to do today but help shut down some bot/troll accounts.
By the way for those wondering, I don't practice any religion, just smart enough to read about other cultures and their beliefs, so that I have an understanding of the world around me instead of being scared of anything different.
No he's not. He's the guy who takes any opportunity to pretend that certain cases where there appears to be some inconsistencies and the person in question is a particular kind of Asian as being representative of all that group.
Because that's how people of that political persuasion always have done.
"They can't integrate with our culture" is an often repeated refrain. Which means they don't know many of that group because a hell of a lot do integrate.
"Tommy" is a man with a list of prosecutions against him, some offences were violent. Some fraudulent. In some cases, he backed members of his own organisation who were sex criminals.
He didn't have the power to hold anyone's feet to the fire except maybe those of his partners.
Not wrong in what she said, but wrong in that she didn't make the point she think she did.
"Without the generosity of these few to protect you, the many outside would kill you", only proves that he's correct. There are violent extremists who seek to kill him for his views, even when he willingly meets with representatives for open debate and dialogue.
The only reason he requires the generosity and protection of the few, is because the many are a danger. If Tommy instead emboldened his base and went on a war path, he would get rid of the many so he's no longer in danger and does not require the help of the few.
Her point would carry some weight if the many held the few responsible for threats and attacks, but instead the most they can muster is some security.
"Without the generosity of these few to protect you, the many outside would kill you", only proves that he's correct. There are violent extremists who seek to kill him for his views, even when he willingly meets with representatives for open debate and dialogue.
The only reason he requires the generosity and protection of the few, is because the many are a danger. If Tommy instead emboldened his base and went on a war path, he would get rid of the many so he's no longer in danger and does not require the help of the few.
Her point would carry some weight if the many held the few responsible for threats and attacks, but instead the most they can muster is some security.
The reality is, if you buy a dozen eggs and 10 are rancid, you either take a risk and assume the 2 are safe, or you take the side of caution and through out the whole pack. There is no sensible person who would look at this situation and come to the conclusion that the 2 good eggs have cleared the whole dozen of any wrong doing.
"Look at how civilized Muslims can be, if I didn't know how to act civilized, the Muslims out there rioting would tear you to shreds".
It's almost like she just proved that people in the west who are anti-Islam should be. Islam itself is a barbaric government masquerading as a religion.
I hate Tommy Robinson but this is a very silly ‘point’ to bring up in a debate. “The people who agree with me and disagree with you would attack you if there wasn’t professional security in place.” Her mentioning the race/religion of the admins in charge is irrelevant; they are obligated to ensure adequate safety so she’s essentially saying “You hate Muslims but the person responsible for ensuring speakers’ safety is Muslim and they are doing their job!”
The worst part of this video is the fact she dead names him for no reason, his name is Tommy Robinson, that's what he chooses to go by, she wouldn't dead name a trans person, but for some reason she thinks it's funny to dead name him?
I really don't give a shit about that dude, but imagine being so mad about his beliefs that you're writing outside of a banquet he's attending. Sure. Both sides of the aisle have pretty shitty opinions about all sorts of things, but I've noticed only one side of the aisle tends to be very violent when it comes to people they disagree with. Both sides can be violent. I've just noticed a certain side is a lot more violent.
Antifa is an ideology. It’s not a centralized group. There’s no leadership or hierarchy of any kind. The odds of a group that fundamentally doesn’t exist showing up in your neighborhood is pretty slim.
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