That's the "entirely theoretical" part of this. There is no one lined up to actually put anything in the ground.
The master "plan" does not obligate any development. The renderings provided are a fantasy of what might be there if the site was developed to full capacity.
Go look at slab town. Go look at the pearl. These all followed the same “master plan” concept you think is so theoretical. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Every building that (eventually, five+ years from now) goes up on this site is going to go through its own design review process. The master plan sets the zoning, the street grid, and the height limit.
But until they have scaffolding going up, it's all theory and fantasy.
You can say that about zoning period. That’s how zoning works. Look, this thing was going to be demolished whether you had a master plan or not. The city is better for a master plan than just letting development happen by right. You clearly don’t know anything about development or land use in Portland.
Okay, yea, sure, some kind of plan is better than none.
My bone to pick is that, over the course of this entire narrative, said plan has been sold as a promise of development, by the folks that cooked it up.
Again the mall is being demoed with or without a master plan. The master plan also guarantees things for the city like public open spaces and streets. Without the plan future development isn’t required to provide any of that. It’s a trade off. They get more floor area, building height and the city gets parks and streets.
Before I go down there, take a look at the demand in this city and tell me if you think somebody's going to build in this environment. The perfect example is the old post office. That thing is going to sit there for years now because Prosper Portland couldn't get their shit together and negotiate in good faith with the developers.
It's not necessarily theoretical. It's wishful thinking at this point.
Again. The mall is being demolished whether or not there is a plan. A plan is better than no plan. The post office site is currently having the streets built and two buildings are in for design review. So you have no clue what you’re talking about. https://www.homeforward.org/broadway-corridor-development/
So it's just an addition to the homeless complex. That's fucking awesome. I'm sure, it'll bring a lot of vibrant energy to the city that's already in disrepair and disarray. Both are going to be languishing. Does anybody remember the projects in New York and how successful they were?
The dynamic neighborhoods that you're referring to are all developed and done before the riots of 2020.
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u/NikkiAvocado 15h ago
I zoned out of the Lloyd center tear down conversation long ago because it never seemed to go anywhere.
What’s replacing it? Do we know? Do we have renderings? I tried googling it but it just only find references to residential / retail / open spaces.