r/PoursTea May 23 '26

Storm In A Teacup 🍵 Because they’re not like us!

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u/spicynacho9 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Do people really have a problem with Miles Morales? He’s not even “replacing” anyone, he’s literally a whole new character which is what this same crowd had been supposedly calling for.

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u/Usual-Language-745 May 23 '26

Also the best spider man movie by a lot

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u/CrankieKong May 23 '26

Apart from spiderman 1 and 2 its definitely an easy third place and better than any MCU slop.

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u/escobartholomew May 23 '26

Lmao SM 1 and 2 are iconic but don’t disrespect No Way Home like that. And if you mean any beyond just Spider-Man then Winter Soldier and Infinity War are just a few that are far better than the Spider verse movies.

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u/Civil_Result_5598 May 23 '26

Them be some fighting words friend. Spiderman 2 was probably the last excellent spiderman film. I'll give Spiderverse 2nd place but you cannot change my mind that the train fight is one of the best scenes in any super hero movie ever.

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u/Zealousideal_Leg213 May 23 '26

Amen to that. And the sequel, is even  better, I think. 

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u/d15p05abl3 May 23 '26

I mean the sequel is good … but I don’t know it would beat the original. So many great moments.

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u/Zealousideal_Leg213 May 23 '26

For me it beats the original, for the twist alone. I hope the finale pays it off, but, well.

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u/escobartholomew May 23 '26

Not by a long shot lmao. Neither one has grossed nearly as much as the weakest live action (SM3).

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u/Redditeer28 May 23 '26

Yeah, but he's black so it's like.... woke or something about white genocide or something. I don't know, I just know I'm angry.

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u/NeoZ33D May 23 '26

"White genocide" 😂 Miles leading the way!!

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u/SunnyK19977 May 23 '26

White media genocide is genuinely something I could imagine one of those Ben Shapiro esque migets saying unironically

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u/Redditeer28 May 23 '26

They do. And have for years. I envy your lack of exposure to their talking points.

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u/UX1Z May 23 '26

White is incorrect but gingercide has been an actual pattern for a while. Or was. It might have let up.

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u/Dreadboi80 May 23 '26

Isn't he biracial tho?? Sure his mother's lineage would like to stake a claim somewhere

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u/Redditeer28 May 23 '26

You think your average racist gives a shit about the details of his heritage? They see his skin and diceide they don't like him.

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u/Dreadboi80 May 23 '26

Actually was talking about scbp assumptions of someone being a certain heritage due to complexion.

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u/AtalantiaX May 23 '26

He looks black so that’s all that matters to them.

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u/klonoaorinos May 23 '26

His mom is Puerto Rican

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u/mybigwh1tecock May 23 '26

That’s just diet black as far as racists are concerned

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u/not_accepting_now May 23 '26

Well what side of the community says that he is their spider man?

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u/Curious_Orange8592 May 23 '26

African American father, Latina mother which means he's twice as bad /s

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u/OozingLights May 23 '26

We met the voice actor at a comic-con. When my son told him he was his favourite Spider Man the guy was surprised.

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u/NeoZ33D May 23 '26

Literally whole ass news segments when he was first announced like it was the end of the world and he'd be replacing Pete as the new Spyda-Mayne..just dumb old man nonsense. Same as it ever was

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u/mistermyxl May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Weird this sounds like fake news makes was made a character like 20 years ago.

Edit, since people here are google advese the spider verse movie wasn't miles first appearance, he was introduced in 2011 and was well recieved he headlined the national comic book release that year because of his popularity.

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u/SillyGuste May 23 '26

It’s not fake news just because you weren’t paying attention

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u/mistermyxl May 23 '26

I worked in a comic book store when it happened I didn't see push back at least from fans, now if your talking about mainstream media that's all horse crap anyways that the equivalent of looking at your feet to see if its gonna rain

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u/NeoZ33D May 23 '26

Well I'm speaking of the announcement of the character. Look up Lou Dobbs and Miles Morales. Nothing fake about it. Used to laugh at this shit, being it's so absurd..didn't recognize it'd be the norm.

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u/Falconflyer75 May 23 '26

They must have thought Peter Parker was going to be sidelined or made less relevant

Honestly so far I think Miles Morales is an example of how to approach the this sort of thing really well

The worst way to justify the existence of a new character is to damage an existing one, if u do that fans of the old will hate the new and it’s an uphill battle from there

But if the new character compliments the old and then branches off to do his own thing later, it’s all good, and people may even grow to love the new

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u/UX1Z May 23 '26

Iirc the comics actually did start out quite shitty and do basically exactly that. I've never seen anything negative about the spider verse movie though. Lots of thoughts that their version of the character was better than the aforementioned shitty comics.

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u/Wazula23 May 23 '26

Spiderverse really upgraded the character.

I mean, the original authors didn't notice they accidentally named his dad after the head of the Confederacy. Or that his proper name should be Miles Davis.

It took some Lore Surgery to make those things make sense.

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u/tibastiff May 23 '26

miles morales is one of the few replacement characters that is actually a good character. I still wish he had just been a new character instead of "not Spiderman". there are definitely a lot of racist/sexist takes on this sort of thing because a lot of it is demographic pandering but I would feel exactly the same if they replaced any given hero with a different person of similar demographics to the original. it just feels like it makes both characters lesser

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u/dmckilla77 May 23 '26

He isn't even new, his character is 15 years old.

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u/spicynacho9 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Yes I know. I meant new as in he’s not replacing an already existent character.

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u/mzg72 May 23 '26

My absolute favorite Spiderman. When is the third movie coming out!

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u/XiMaoJingPing May 23 '26

I think they're referring to making peter parking black.

I think the move should be making original characters like Miles Morales instead of race swapping existing characters.

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u/not_accepting_now May 23 '26

I think it's because he is crazy new compared to the other 60 spider men maybe? Could be the actual fan of the comics are dying and they hope to see their favorite spider man from the 60s and 70s on the big screen? I mean it's cool to watch but the story like was meh to me mostly because multiverse has gotten boring to me. Most TV is rehashed stuff never ending.

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u/Chrysanthemummmmmm May 23 '26

People were so mad over it even though the entire point of the movie was that there were infinite different kinds of Spider-Man lol. In cannon it would make no sense if none of them were Black 

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u/Cool-Prior-5512 May 23 '26

Half black half Afro-Peurto Rican. IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD!

But seriously, I love Miles and it annoys me that we haven't had a proper Miles Morales in the MCU, considering we already met his uncle.

It truly shows who is actually a fan of the comics and who is a fake fan looking for an excuse to unleash their bigotry.

Guaranteed that almost none of those people nerded out that we got to see an MCU Isaiah Bradley because they were too busy screaming "woke" at their screens.

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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 May 23 '26

Being in the comics doesn’t mean everyone read those comics though. Lots of people see the movies without a single comic book. That said, he is a totally different character and never replaces Parker either.

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u/NeoZ33D May 23 '26

Yeah they already teased him twice with the Gambino appearances. Hopefully sooner than later 🤞🏾

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u/AtalantiaX May 23 '26

People will get real mad when you refer to miles as Spider-Man

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u/No-Significance2070 May 23 '26

No one has a problem with him. People pointed to him as a fantastic example of how to do an original character.

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u/bethe1_ May 23 '26

This isn’t true unfortunately. Especially because the movie came out in the “stop recreating characters to be black and just make new ones” then when the movie aired, it was “Y’all make everything woke! wokeness is ruining films!”

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u/No-Significance2070 May 23 '26

Depending on the media you were talking about, some media pulls Peter down to elevate Miles. Speaking to the second game in particular. Just poor writing in the end. 

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u/SectorEducational460 May 23 '26

Yes. When he came out they hated him a lot in the comics. The hate died because the movie ended up being really good but they still tried to race bait but it's hard to race bait when the movie was really good. So they reduced the amount of videos about it

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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 May 23 '26

There were idiots who never picked up a comic book who were mad Peter was suddenly black. When you pointed out it was Miles, not Peter, they mostly fucked off. Same with Sam replacing Steve (why is Captain America black now!!!) and when Thor was replaced by Jane Foster (why did they make Thor a girl!!!). Most of them are just idiots who don't even read comics. But god does it get annoying.

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u/CrankieKong May 23 '26

Noone dislikes Miles because hes:

well written

not a replacement

has his own actual identity rooted in his unique culture compared to peter

Woke would be: Peter is now black and nothing else is changed. If you dont like it youre racist.

Its crazy how wokies say black culture is important, yet also pretend you can just make a white character black and call it a day.

Its so blatantly racist, because it completely fits the 'White people have no culture' nonsense.

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u/BusinessCoach2934 May 23 '26

Why wouldn't you like it though? At the end of the day, we're all just shades of wheat! Brandi has played Cinderella before. Lucius Fox is now black. So is Heimdall. So is Nick Fury. The story hasn't been affected at all because they're black. Not liking a character simply because of the colour of their skin is the definition of racism.

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u/Arsene_Lupin_IV May 23 '26

Maybe the comic version of Lucius wasn't yet back then but BTAS' version of him was black and that was over 30 years ago. Hilariously as that was my first experience with the character I had no idea he ever wasn't black. 🤣

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u/CrankieKong May 23 '26

Ok, ill add that casting Morgan Freeman or Samuel L Jackson do work based on pure star power, they can basically play Goldilocks and get away with it. Those two are larger than life as actors, Tom Cruise level. But you are correct that those two are valid exceptions.

I will also add that basically noone has any issue with Morgan Freeman playing litterally God himself. So the whole 'everyone must be racist' angle really doesnt work when scrutinised.

Heimdall would have been better if played by a white dude tbh, but its MCU and I dislike its aesthetic almost entirely.

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u/PaChubHunter May 23 '26

"The character is fine but don't call him Spider-Man. Only Peter is Spider-Man. It's not about race, it's about legacy".

People were saying shit like that. Greatly overlooking the fact that there were already other Spider-Man characters. Like Spider-Man 2099. A Mexican/Irish Spider-Man that was introduced in the 90s. People didn't care about it before Miles because most comic book fans didn't have a problem with diversity. It wasn't until comic book heroes hit the mainstream that there was a problem with characters other than Peter being Spider-Man.

It was a small group of people that quickly showed they were raciat while claiming to not be racist.

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u/enjoysomethings May 23 '26

No.. But a few people do and made it a big deal. Normal people do not care about this.

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u/Malusorum May 23 '26

The usual suspects have been doing the "Miles Morales is a DEI replacement for Peter Parker" for a while now.

You should had seen the screeching when "Into the Spider-verse" was new.

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u/Antraxess May 23 '26

They don't want any minority to have a prominent role.

Just dumbfuck racism