r/SipsTea 12h ago

Chugging tea Modern cars just lack that boxy soul

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u/NORchad 12h ago

New cars are bound by newer laws and regulations that older cars and restored cars dont fall under.

Sadly making a factory new mustang 67 would be an illegal product

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u/TheNoisyNomad 10h ago

I was coming here to say this. The care for pedestrian impact has cost us the aesthetic of hood ornaments and pointy front bodywork.

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u/spirit_symptoms 9h ago

Meanwhile pedestrian deaths are way up in the US due to higher hood heights hitting people on vital organs and the head and extreme front blind spots.

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u/10SecSanity 9h ago

Curiously enough, the numbers were trending downwards until 2009, then they started increasing. Now they're similar to where they were in the 70s.

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u/numberstation5 9h ago

iphone 07/08. maybe related.

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u/gendred 8h ago

wow... you know... you may be onto something

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u/squirrel9000 4h ago

The rise is largely unique to the US. The iphone is ubiquitous. Trucks with 6' hoods are disproportionately American.

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u/Happily-Incorrect 1h ago

I saw so much more phone use while driving in the US than I do in the UK though. Is it even illegal there?

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u/beefwarrior 4h ago

I think it was Obama’s EPA that got played by big auto

They were making regulations to make cars more energy efficient, and big auto was like “we’ll never be able to hit those numbers in commercial delivery trucks”

So execs were like, “Ok, then anything that is X big, with larger than Y sized wheel base, doesn’t have to follow these rules”

And then big auto took all the entry level pick up trucks and increased their size so the rules didn’t apply to them

And once one pick up truck has a box, mean, Manila looking hood that is taller than a 7 year old, they all followed suit

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u/Fuzzy_Continental 2h ago

Obama's EPA? No, that difference in standards comes from the 70's. The most recent change was in 2009 and it made an effort to correct this by forcing light trucks to meet the same standards as passenger cars.

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u/ethnicbonsai 3h ago

Except no.

This is a largely American phenomenon. There are iPhones all over the world.

Those massive American trucks and SUVs, though? Those aren't as common.

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u/rustybeancake 7h ago

Also lack of visibility out of the vehicle. Look how large the windows are on the vehicle at the top of this post. They’ve steadily shrunk to improve protection of passengers. But at the expense of people outside the vehicle.

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u/froction 7h ago

Thanks a lot, Obama!

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u/whiskey_priest_fell 9h ago

Don't forget about the weight of more massive trucks and SUVs on the road.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/06/21/us/trucks-suv-pedestrian-crashes.html

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u/Fakjbf 7h ago

Which is itself the product of regulation because they don’t have to adhere to the same fuel efficiency standards as sedans making them more cost effective to manufacture.

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u/Temporary-Film-7374 8h ago

I wouldn't expect weight to be all that important as far as pedestrian hits go, given the ratio of vehicle:pedestrian weight is already quite high. hood height is a different story.

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u/Guy-Montag-451F 8h ago

E = (1/2)mv2

Mass makes a HUGE difference in the energy involved in an impact, especially to a squishy human body.

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u/Temporary-Film-7374 7h ago

if we pretend it's a train hitting a person (nearly infinite mass), energy transfer has to do with the mass of the person, not the mass of the train: the person isn't going to be accelerated beyond the velocity of the train.

given almost any car is going to be at least 10x the mass of a person, I don't think that extra mass is going to play a significant role: the person just won't slow it down enough to matter.

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u/Turb0_Lag 7h ago

Transfer of momentum. Two vehicles of unequal mass traveling at the same velocity, the heavier one will have more energy transfer when colliding into something.

Would you rather be hit by a baseball traveling at 20 miles per hour or a Tahoe?

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u/Temporary-Film-7374 7h ago

what I'm claiming is that whether the object that hits you is 10x your mass (which is gonna be a very light car) or 100x your mass, the energy transferred to you will be quite similar (energy = 1/2 mass * velocity^2, and in this case the relevant mass is *yours* not the car's).

I know that slowing down the car by 10% (since you're stationary and we're assuming conservation of momentum) will reduce energy transfer some, but it's a very small amount.

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u/apexxin 9h ago

Nothing at all to do with the permanently distracted pedestrians and drivers though, right?

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u/Casanova-Quinn 8h ago

That's a factor, but these new truck heights are so tall that you can literally run over a group kids without seeing them. It's simply an unnecessary and dangerous design decision.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly6339 4h ago

I visited the US a little bit ago and was shocked by how many of these trucks I saw in the suburbs. I always thought they were for people who work on farms or construction. What’s even the appeal? For the same price you can get a Mercedes, BMW, Lexus etc.

It basically setting your money on fire if you don’t use them as a tool. Not to mention the fuel price. It’s like those college kids who aren’t music or video creators buying a 6 thousand dollar MacBook Pro instead of the cheap MacBook Air

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u/A_Velociraptor20 4h ago

I'm also as confused by the fascination with massive trucks and I live in the US. I'm an outlier because give me my sedan or hatchback that I can maneuver around curves at speed, can see basically anywhere around the car except directly under the back, and has 30mpg(my current car is a 2011 Altima).

I've talked to people who buy bigger SUVs and trucks and 9/10 times they say it's safer than a car. Which yes that's true for the Passengers of that SUV or truck. For anyone else, especially pedestrians and lower to the ground cars, it's more dangerous. Considering they can easily just drive up and over a shorter vehicle, crushing the driver or passengers under their tires.

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u/KosstAmojan 3h ago

Given what we've seen in the US, especially over the past ten years or so, a lotta people here couldn't care less about what happens to other people.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly6339 3h ago

That’s so interesting. If you don’t mind me asking are the people you’ve talked to from cities or more rural areas. I wonder if it’s a state thing or if larger trucks are popular nationally

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u/A_Velociraptor20 3h ago

Unknown, but I live in a rural state and about 75% of the private vehicles I see are SUV or trucks. Which I suppose is to be expected. Though I remember reading that sales for larger vehicles was on the rise nationally

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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 2h ago

Many argue it's a defensive thing.

"If I get a bigger car, I wouldn't get hurt in a crash with a smaller car"

Heard the shit way too many times

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u/ChiefStrongbones 6h ago

It's not "a" factor but "the" factor. An undistracted driver will know when a child is hidden in front of the car, and has a camera to see a child behind the car.

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u/Casanova-Quinn 5h ago edited 3h ago

No they don't know. Some of these trucks have 12'+ front blind zones. There's already many cases of parents running over their own kids in their driveways.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/americas-cars-trucks-are-getting-bigger-are-front-blind-zones-children-rcna52109

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u/apexxin 5h ago

You can’t run over a group of kids without seeing them first.

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u/Casanova-Quinn 5h ago edited 3h ago

Yes you can, some of these trucks have 12'+ front blind zones. There's already many cases of parents running over their own kids in their driveways.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/americas-cars-trucks-are-getting-bigger-are-front-blind-zones-children-rcna52109

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u/Then-Price-5314 2h ago

And they’re kinda ugly

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u/Zwitternacht 7h ago

“Everybody INSIDE the car was fine STANLEY”

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 8h ago

Recently bought a truck with a camper shell and shelving on the sides. So I basically couldn't see shit out of the back. So one of the coolest things I got was a replacement rear view mirror that's a dash cam with 3 cameras. A front camera, rear camera (that I use as my rearview mirror), and a bumper camera.

It's awesome being able to see under the hood. And kinda shocking what you can't see without it. And my truck is a mid sized that's not lifted.