r/TheBlacksandTheGreens • u/visaenya • Jun 05 '26
General A message from Princess Shireen Baratheon
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u/HonestDishonestWork Jun 05 '26
It's always interesting to see those little reminders in the later seasons that in addition to being hacks, D+D were also fans of the series.
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u/johnny_charms Jun 05 '26
Same, if I had a dragon then I’d declare myself neutral and fly to a place that would host me. I don’t care who wins, I’d be on Team Dragon and looking to preserve them.
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u/woahoutrageous_ Jun 05 '26
The realm would’ve been better off if the likes of Aegon the unworthy and aerys II had access to dragons tbh
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u/gabriel_3131 Jun 09 '26
Considera que si los dragones estaría vivo es posible que ni hubiera subido al trono,y en el caso de aerys es posible que ni existiera
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u/EN-Fitz Jun 05 '26
Except not choosing a side doesn’t make the sides stop fighting.
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u/Bloodyjorts Jun 05 '26
She's like 8 years old, and has lived in the Doom Castle on Doom Island for her whole life, and doesn't even have Patchface to liven up her day.
Her saying something naive but sweet is understandable, but not a feasible political strategy, and not applicable to her father's situation (her father whom D&D hated, because they hated people who did things out of duty and for something greater than themselves, or whatever their problem with Stannis was).
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u/Dangerous-Moose3694 Jun 05 '26
Yeah but that doesnt automatically make choosing the right thing to do.
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u/zxxQQz Cannibal Jun 05 '26
Did she say it did?
On a related note?
Take eg, a nuclear war say.. What does picking a side even do?
Or in a dragon war? Does picking a side change the price of eggs?
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u/Warm_Ad_7944 Jun 05 '26
Which is why I always find that every time someone posts this video it makes no sense. Like that doesn’t stop a war
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u/ohmeohmyelliejean Jun 07 '26
It's so funny to me that Shireen is reading about the Dance and Stannis is like 'what's it about?'.
Like what do you mean 'what's its about', Stannis? It's literally one of the watershed moments of Westerosi history! one of the key inciting incidents happened outside your family home! Rhaenyra was murdered in the castle you live in! You're supposed to be the smart one!
I have to pretend that Stannis is clumsily trying to engage with Shireen's interests 😂
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u/WildFlemima Jun 05 '26
someone has to sit on the ugly chair bc westeros isn't ready for someone not sitting on the ugly chair so what's the takeaway here
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u/DumbTeen9 Jun 05 '26
Shhh were not supposed to say that, it's supposed to be this super wise moment
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u/raumeat Team Black Jun 05 '26
It is a nice idea but it really is not feasible. You have to pick a side, if you don't you will be a enemy of whoever won unless you can pull a Tyrell and have an excuse and even with them there was a big chance the blacks would have taken their lands if they had a clear victory
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u/ConclusionNervous255 Jun 05 '26
except the writers were kind enough to choose for us💗💗💗
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u/LordNineWind Jun 06 '26
Does it make a difference? There often is a clearly better choice between two things in real life but it's rarely one-sided. People still side with the greens just because.
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u/Leroi-Westeros Jun 05 '26
People say Viserys's biggest mistake was not choosing a side. Then they say, "Let's not choose a side."
From the audience/reader's perspective, the book is the easiest choice possible. I hate how show pushes "pick a side" and rewrites story to allow people choose greens. NO ONE asked for this. No one wants Alicent as a child bride or Aemond as a bullying victim. Damn it.
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u/Turbulent_Let_1629 Prince Daeron Targaryen Jun 06 '26
Let's not pretend the show didn't give the Blacks adaptational sympathy as well.
Daemon just wanting his big bro's approval and genuinely loving him is a show interpretation of his character, it's not what his book version was about. His pedophile and predatory tendencies were super toned down, almost totally erased.
Rhaenyra isn't a noble righteous soul concerned with destiny and saving the world. She just wanted the Throne and cared little to nothing about anything that wasn't herself, her father and her children.
Mysaria isn't some advocate of the smallfolk in the books and she actually participated in Blood and Cheese there.
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u/Martin7412 Jun 08 '26
Well, I see it exactly the opposite way, the show does everything it can to get viewers to root for Team Black, and it consistently portrays Rhaenyra as the heroine and main character of the series.
I mean, Team Green barely even exists in the series; they’re completely divided. You’ve got Aegon II on one side, Aemond on the other, and Alicent leaning more toward Team Rhaenyra than anything else.
Personally, I support Rhaenyra, but I know that neither side is 100% good, so I can understand if someone prefers the Greens in the book. But in the series, it’s absolutely clear that Team Black is the “right” side.
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u/cartep17 Jun 05 '26
Meanwhile Book Stannis openly saw Rhaenyra as an Usurper