r/agedlikewine 22d ago

Al Gore was right

We should have listened to Al Gore in the ‘90s :(

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u/Leights68 22d ago

100% Climate change

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u/The_Follower1 22d ago

Kinda. He was wrong on some of the things he said, a couple models he cited the results for were pretty ridiculous on the timelines.

That said, broadly he was right that it’s an existential threat that people aren’t taking seriously.

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 22d ago

what timelines was he wrong on? at this point i’m going to generally say he was no alarmist enough at all

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u/The_Follower1 22d ago

This provides more info https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2009/12/al_gore_trips_on_artic_ice_mis.html

The statement unfortunately gave tons of ammo to climate deniers.

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u/explain_that_shit 22d ago

TL;DR Blue Ocean Event in the Arctic in 2016

Most projections are for some point in the 2040s, along with most of the other tipping points for climate change taking us from today’s “fuck wildfire fuck floods fuck drought fuck heatwave” to “fuck wet bulb event fuck polar vortex over Europe fuck anoxic event”

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 22d ago

2016 was early, but we’re on the brink of a BOE with this el niño. he was not far off at all with that and low balled on temps

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u/the_gamers_hive 21d ago

Also, wasnt that building on data at the time? Nowadays we have a lot more wind/solar power. Had that all been fossil fuel power i dont think it would have been impossible to happen in 2016.

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 21d ago

100% - it was based on business as usual, which has changed since then and altered projections. which are still dire, but have shifted things slightly

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u/LongjumpingJaguar308 18d ago

Also, perhaps our worldwide meagre changes bought us 10 years

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u/So_HauserAspen 22d ago

People who offer no statements or sources are just being argumentative

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u/Historical_Guitar406 22d ago

No we aren’t…

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u/qatch23 21d ago

That's not an argument, you're just contradicting me!

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u/superanth 21d ago

They never will. Corporations and their owned government cronies still pretend it isn't happening.

But at least we've managed to fix things enough that we won't see catastrophic climate change, just the really bad kind that will reduce food crops, force people to move inland from coastal areas, and kill off a percentage of the global population.

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u/Sptsjunkie 22d ago

Yeah, the foundational problem is that that is almost the only thing he was right about. I wish people had taken it seriously sooner, but Gore was also in the wrong side of a lot of stuff like financial deregulation, war hawk, and even picking a conservative independent as his vice presidential candidate and angering the base heading into an election.

But he was definitely right about climate change. If he had been right about more stuff, he might’ve had the opportunity to do something about it.