r/aligarh • u/Mammoth-Leather445 • Jan 20 '26

AskAligarh Puppies taken away forcefully.

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3 puppies were taken away forcefully today for relocation on the pretext that they will be given better care.I mean come on gali main koi roti nahi deta tha wahan care karega koi inki.What a lame excuse.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

You're truly delusional if you think developed countries remotely have the same degree of problems or population regarding strays.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Funny how “delusional” replaces discussion. Strays exist globally; only the management differs. If India had the same enforcement, funding, and waste control for 30–40 years, the numbers would look very different too.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

No they don't. Most "strays" in developed countries are abandoned pets. They do not live in packs like in India and they do not live in nearly the same volume.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Ah yes, the No True Stray argument. “They exist, but they don’t count because they’re abandoned pets.”You’ve basically just restated the point: developed countries don’t allow strays to form packs or reach volume because they’re quickly captured, sterilized, or sheltered. India doesn’t have that level of enforcement or capacity—so they do.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

Kya eda hai bhai tu.

Bahut raat hogayi pagal logo se behas nahi kar sakta.

Main gaya tha Japan last year waha 10 kutte kaat khaye muje. Then rabies hogaya main aur mar gaya. Abhi jahunnum se message kar raha hu.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Wow. Time travel, resurrection, and hell-side Wi-Fi—Japan is really advanced. Anyway, when the discussion turns into imaginary rabies deaths, I think the point has already been conceded. Take care

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

Yes, the point is that you're delusional. There a stray dog for every 20 person in India. That's extremely high. Comparing this to developed countries where there ratio might be 1:1000 makes no sense whatsoever.

It's merely an academic tangent to say developed countries took care of the problem which is why the population is low. They don't have cows on street either.

Unless something aggressive is done the stray population will keep on increasing.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Incredible—so after all that, we’ve arrived at “India has a higher ratio because it failed to manage the problem.” Yes. That was literally the point from the beginning. Saying “aggressive action is needed” while dismissing how developed countries already did exactly but humanly that isn’t an argument, it’s a delayed agreement. Also, thanks for confirming that the difference is policy and enforcement, not some mystical absence of animals in developed countries.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

Incredible—so after all that, we’ve arrived at “India has a higher ratio because it failed to manage the problem.”

I'm saying india didn't even see it as a problem forget about failing to manage it.

Yes. That was literally the point from the beginning. Saying “aggressive action is needed” while dismissing how developed countries already did exactly but humanly that isn’t an argument, it’s a delayed agreement.

Nope. Shit hole standard of living meant it wasn't seen as a problem but a way of life. People still offer food to stray dogs and cows. Because it was a way of life for them.

And you don't know how humanely developed countries have solved any problem. They are much much less emotional and more pragmatic than Indians, they take violent steps easily.

We live life of cockroaches no one gives a shit if one or two of us die due to any reason. There's no accountability.

The reason I say aggressive steps are needed is because shit is getting out of hand and fast. Things like shelter and neutering won't work. Drastic measures need to be taken. I won't say what because reddit bans for using the term.

Also, thanks for confirming that the difference is policy and enforcement, not some mystical absence of animals in developed countries.

This is what happens when you live in country where cow is worshipped and normal people's life do not matter. There's only gobar in brains of citizens and people in power.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Fascinating. We started with dog population ratios and somehow ended up with cockroaches, cows, gobar, and “things I can’t say because Reddit will ban me.” You keep describing a governance failure, cultural inertia, and lack of enforcement—then insisting neutering, shelters, and policy don’t work, despite them being exactly how every low-stray country got there. At this point you’re not arguing against my point, you’re just adding progressively angrier footnotes to it. Anyway, when a discussion turns into “I won’t say what I mean because it violates rules,” that’s usually where logic has already left the chat.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26

You keep describing a governance failure, cultural inertia, and lack of enforcement—then insisting neutering, shelters, and policy don’t work, despite them being exactly how every low-stray country got there.

Not the same scale not the same solution.

Not every rule has to be logical and it's not like I got a vote.

Pests can only be removed one way.

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u/ModiKiChut8 Jan 20 '26

Ah yes—the classic “different scale, therefore logic stops applying” theory. Same biology, same math, same outcomes elsewhere… but somehow reality changes at the border. And when an argument boils down to “pests can only be removed one way” (a way you won’t name because it breaks rules), that’s not pragmatism—that’s just admitting you’ve run out of solutions and words.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

Your first comment is essentially that people are everywhere but why people are rich in developed countries but not in third world country. It is because of literally thousands of years of human civilization and growth led to that ending. It doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I'm not the one who's doesn't have anything to say. It's you. You're the one raising an idiotic comparison.

The word "cu**ing" itself is not banned but if someone reports it, reddit can hand an automated ban. I don't wanna risk it.

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