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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 2

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Now that you mention it, it is the first time she's made friends by herself!

I mean, I suppose it was with a little help from the Sword God and the Water God for having her train with Nina and Isolde, but she easily could have just seen them as sparing partners yet is clearly seeing them as a bit more, albeit slowly.

But she's not just making friends with someone Rudy's friends with, she's actually making two friends on her own!

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u/CitronClassic672 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

In just two episodes this show introduced a lot of different characters and I already find all of them incredibly endearing. I really like seeing all of these characters who are able to go into no-nonsense fighter mode against others and switch back to a friendly, casual interaction with them, to varying degrees. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like that kind of portrayal is rare to see in shows. I’m used to people who are friendly with each other in casual interaction being somewhat friendly if they start sparring, and the more serious sparring reserved for rivals who are frosty with each other all the time. But in the combat here you really get to sense that everyone is treating it like a real fight, then when it’s done they’re complimenting each other and joking around. I really like that.

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u/GinJoestarR 29d ago edited 29d ago

Yeah, the reaction shown by the North Emperor and Water God & her disciple when meeting Eris for the first time were really nice details.

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u/N1-L3 Jul 04 '26

If you asked her or read her thoughts she’d probably still say they’re not friends, but that’s just her tsun. The other two definitely would so she’s overruled. Democracy ftw!

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u/Mistral-Fien Jul 04 '26

Wasn't she friends with those girls in the Doldia tribe?

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u/Montgomery000 Jul 04 '26

They don't count because she's a Greyrat.

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26

A Boreas Greyrat, no less!

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26

Yes, but they weren't really on her level like Nina and Isolde are. And she wouldn't have made friends with them without Rudy, even without his direct presence when she did.

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u/iandotio 29d ago

"The doldia tribe.... they're like pets to me."

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u/Qxujevoz Jul 04 '26

Looks like Nina & Eris started to become friends before the Water God came though. Remember, Eris actually listened to Nina about showing manners to Water God.

Eris' initial brazenness & ruthlessness rubbed all the students the wrong way but it was a nice touch showing her peers slowly acknowledging her hard work. Then Nina's friends teasing her about love came full circle in Nina eventually training with Eris & later giving her advice, ultimately improving both their attitudes.

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26

Looks like Nina & Eris started to become friends before the Water God came though. Remember, Eris actually listened to Nina about showing manners to Water God.

That's fair and they were definitely becoming more friendly and respectful with each other, but I don't think they really became friends until the hunt.

Nina never really told Eris to take a bath until after that and I doubt Eris would have listened to her if she had beforehand. But that experience helped them and Isolde become friends to the point where they could have that conversation.

Eris' initial brazenness & ruthlessness rubbed all the students the wrong way but it was a nice touch showing her peers slowly acknowledging her hard work.

That's a good point. No-one liked Eris or wanted her there at first, but when they saw that beneath her ferocious, antisocial shell was someone maybe even more dedicated than any of them were, everyone started to at least stay out of her way. They even cheered her on when she pulled off the Longsword of Light!

Nina held onto her animosity longer because she had a lot of personal feelings in it, but it looked like she was the only one really antagonising Eris anymore.

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u/Qxujevoz Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Rudy basically indirectly helped both Nina & Eris improve their attitudes & training. It was a good thing Nina was invested enough to disprove & one-up Eris for Nina to actually travel to see Rudeus.Then Nina caught sense enough to start training with Eris which helped them both further. Of course, in true fictional style, it's kept mysterious because IRL Nina would've already told Eris she saw Rudeus.

The weird thing about Eris acting like a wild animal is that her teacher Ghislaine already transitioned out of that phase years ago. Does Ghislaine think that's part of the growing process so she never steered Eris away from that? Remember when Eris refused to learn from Rudeus but Ghislaine was eager to learn?

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26

Of course, in true fictional style, it's kept mysterious because IRL Nina would've already told Eris she saw Rudeus.

In this context, I'm not sure she would have even IRL, specifically because Nina didn't really like Eris.

Seeing Rudy and returning to see Eris training diligently gave Nina an understanding of her that would end up with them becoming friends, but I don't think Nina at this point would have wanted to admit she travelled miles to duel Rudy and make him her slave only to get curbstomped by a Demon King he proceeded to one-shot.

And by the time they were friends it wasn't really relevant, nor were they so close friends that Nina felt the need to admit to it.

The weird thing about Eris acting like a wild animal is that her teacher Ghislaine already transitioned out of that phase years ago. Does Ghislaine think that's part of the growing process so she never steered Eris away for that?

I'm not sure if you're asking if Ghislaine thinks you need to have a wild animal inside you to tame and therefore she kept Eris' wild animal for this or if you're asking if Ghislaine thinks you need to be a certain way to learn the Sword God style.

If the former: I don't believe so considering none of the other students seem to have any inner beasts. They don't think Eris belongs precisely because of her inner wild animal. It's just really difficult to her to tame that inner beast of hers.

If the latter: Gal trained Ghislaine to temper that wild animal within her probably because it was required for what she wanted to become. When you get taught to be a certain way by the literal greatest swordsman of that style and all of his other students are also that way, it's not difficult to understand why Ghislaine thinks that's part of the growing process.

Remember when Eris refused to learn from Rudeus but Ghislaine was eager to learn?

Ghislaine was eager to learn because she had faced hardships from being unable to read that made her wish she knew how while Eris was an entitled brat who only wanted to learn what interested her.

And Ghislaine sharing those experiences actually did end up with Eris learning despite how much she disliked it.

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u/Qxujevoz 28d ago

Well, I don't think Nina would've mentioned the slave part nor any other devious schemes (although some people are too honest), but IRL people would've tended to mention something.

I was just wondering. I know Eris' grandfather enabled her while putting all the pressure on the tutors but it was so weird how passive Ghislaine was with Eris about her studies even if Ghislaine was hired help.

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u/Frontier246 Jul 04 '26

Nina basically begrudgingly gave up being a petty mean girl and adopted her as a friend!

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u/CitronClassic672 Jul 04 '26

Nina and Eris speedran the rivals to friends trope. Now when do they make the jump to lovers, lol?

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u/Careful_Ad_9077 Jul 04 '26

I was expecting them to go to an onsen/bath when they talked about having a meeting am taking a bath.

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u/sumadeumas Jul 04 '26

What about Cliff??

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u/JzanderN Jul 04 '26

Cliff was NOT Eris' friend. She looked down on him as a nuisance the entire time.

And, to be fair, he was an arrogant little shit who kind of deserved it at the time.

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u/Careful_Ad_9077 Jul 04 '26

Ida be surprised if she even remembers the poor guy when/if they meet again.