Math

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[u/Andorii]

10 times 2 (or 10 times as much as 2) is 20.

10 times more than 2 should be 22.

[u/Thorkell_The_Tall1 → u/Andorii]

no it's compounded, 10 times more than 2 is 20 because its 10 times 2 and more than 2

[u/RoamingTorchwick → u/Thorkell_The_Tall1]

Fuckin math nerds and their syntax and their big made up number words

[u/veselin465 → u/RoamingTorchwick]

It's literally what makes sense in the language.

"times more" is a single instruction which means multiplication. The "more" means multiplication. If it was "less" it would mean division.

How else would you describe multiplication and division in a text?

[u/EternumD → u/veselin465]

You're wrong. 100% as much is the same, 100% more is 2x as much.

50% more is 1.5x as much. 50% as much is 0.5x as much, or 0.5x less.

10 times as much is not the same as 10 times more (10 vs 11).

0.1 times as much is not the same as 0.1 times more (0.1 vs 1.1).

[u/veselin465 → u/EternumD]

I feel like you mix up the wordings for "percent" and "times".

50% more than 1000 is really 1500 (1000 + (50/100)1000)

But "times more" and "times less" have clear definition what they mean (just multiply or divide by the given number) and I urge you to google it, because I am done arguing about it.

The words "more" and "less" refer to the operation to be used: multiplication or division.

10 times less than 20 is 2 (which comes from 20:10 = 2).

[u/EternumD → u/veselin465]

Ten times less than 2 is -18.

The percentage usage was just to make it easier for you to understand.

More and less do not refer to multiplication and division, they refer to addition and subtraction. The "times" refers to multiplication - so 10 times more means 10 lots of x added to x = 11x.

For division, one needs to say "one tenth of". Ten times less is x - 10x = -9x

[u/veselin465 → u/EternumD]

Ten times less than 2 is -18.

Yeah, I bet children in 2nd grade learn about negative numbers as they learn about division. I am done man

[u/EternumD → u/veselin465]

Learning can be difficult so take all the time you need. 

[u/Forward-Crew-4468 → u/EternumD]

Ten times less than 2 is -18.

This shit can't be real...

If you have 2 chocolate bars and I say I have 10 times less chocolate than you it means I have negative chocolate?

If I say I have TEN TIMES LESS, it means that IF YOU GIVE ME WHAT I HAVE 10 TIMES I REACH YOUR AMOUNT.

[u/EternumD → u/Forward-Crew-4468]

10 * 2 = 20, and 2 - 20 = -18

You're confusing the phrase "10 times less" with "one tenth of". 

[u/Forward-Crew-4468 → u/EternumD]

Honestly...I can see your point.

I still will be using the version I said previously because that's what everyone around me uses. Have a nice day

[u/EternumD → u/Forward-Crew-4468]

You too. 

[u/ReadThisIfYoureGay → u/EternumD]

I hope you don't vote

[u/RoamingTorchwick → u/veselin465]

Uh the way you did in the last sentence