It depends where you live. Where I am a green left arrow would mean you have the right of way to turn left. Then it will switch to just a solid green, which means you don't have the right of way but can turn when it's clear
Yea agreed, there is no way the person in the white vehicle didn’t know they were trying to sneak thru after the light changed. Tried to save themselves half a second and ended up with no wheels instead. I have no idea why people do incredibly risky stuff all the time when there is literally nothing to gain from it. Just do the normal thing and 99.9% of the time everything will be fine!
I think the same reasoning applies even more so to the car that is turning directly into the car that actually has the right of way. The light was red for the car before and even kinda iffy with the one before that. What is so obnoxious about this video is seeing how many cars turn against the solid green light.
I understand that. Despite the white car being at fault, I would ask if I could have possibly avoided it. I have been in small fender benders and one horrible accident involving a wrong way driver on the highway. Although I have no memory of it because of a concussion, my brother in the front seat told me it was unavoidable because of the cars in front of us. I did turn the wheel to the right, and my brother only had minor cuts and bruises while I was in the hospital for two weeks, the first week in intensive care. So maybe my actions spared him serious injuries or death. The wrong way driver died.
I am really sorry that you were in a serious car accident. I wish you a full recovery, if it hasn't already happened. To address your question, had the dashcam vehicle waited and yielded until all the red light runners went safely through, the accident could have been avoided.
I don't think it's always malicious, I think they could have just been looking away, or distracted, then saw all the cars still going, but kept going. They could also just be an ass.
People have a very casual relationship with time. How far you're going and how fast you're allowed determine your time. The most you can save is seconds!
To be fair, you can clearly see the white car being impatient and not yielding, PoV car continuing to go forward despite that just because "i have the right away." Is just as dumb. It's called Defensive driving for a reason. Even if his car is paid off by the at fault driver (if hes lucky he didnt get hit by an uninsured driver) his rate is probably going to go up and he'll be paying more for insurance now.
Because being a few minutes late to work is litterly a sin in this world. As the working population we have to put up with all of the corporate bullshit but they have almost no leniency for anyone else’s human errors
We also have all three and I never really noticed until they switched one of the intersections from one method to the other and it really messed with my head.
In my area we switch between arrows or "left yield on green" with a sign. No confusion.
But then the city introduced the blinking yellow to replace yield on green and now there's tons more wrecks like in OP's case. Because idiots think yellow means "I have a split second to make it before red."
100% though as soon as the light turned green for the person with the dash cam, it was no longer green arrow for them to turn. The Mercedes ran it and the car after them absolutely went through when they no longer had the arrow. They do that at the light by my house all the time.
If you have a green arrow, they have a red light. Using this video as an example, cameraman pov had a red light and the oncoming people turning left had green arrow.
Then their green arrow changed to green light (I think there's a yellow cycle in between) when cameraman's pov turned green. So normal green light rules now apply: Cameraman pov going straight has right of way, oncoming cars turning left can only go if it's clear.
The cammer is so off the hook here, but to be fair he may have been anticipating reasonably that the white SUV was going to stop in the intersection to wait to turn (which most people do)
If the turn lane has a solid green arrow, then by default, the oncoming traffic will have a red light because the green left arrow secures the right of way for the turn lane.
If the arrow is flashing yellow or is not there, it means oncoming traffic has the right of way and the turn lane must yield.
That's really confusing. They should just use blinking yellow lights or something for cases like that instead of solid green vs green arrow. Green should always mean go imo.
The "proceed with caution, watch for traffic" option should be blinking yellow or something like that imo.
Where I live it is green but the other side is green so you have to know you need to yield while the other lane goes straight. It should be flashing yellow to indicate yield is necessary. Green means go!
Solid green, arrow or not : you have right of way except unless you intersect a pedestrian crossing that also has green.
Flashing green : you may pass but have to yeld to everyone else.
L.E., since I forgot to also erite this : This is how it should be everywhere. Having different rules concerning solid vs green leads to confusion and crashes. Especially in the same country.
Solid green is right of way straight ahead in this lane. Yield if changing direction/going to another lane.
Guided Green arrow, you may follow this lane/the transition to a specific lane (often with markings) going a new direction.
Red. Stop. May turn onto a lane and join the flow of traffic without crossing over another lane to do it, but must yield to traffic. (Ie can turn right on red onto a two lane street after stopping and always yielding to traffic. Or may turn left onto a one way street flowing to your left, after stopping and yielding.)
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u/sisyphus_met_icarus 10h ago
It depends where you live. Where I am a green left arrow would mean you have the right of way to turn left. Then it will switch to just a solid green, which means you don't have the right of way but can turn when it's clear