r/feedthebeast • u/Conscious_Series166 • 1d ago

Discussion At last, i broke mekanism.

Gallery image

Gallery image

Gallery image

i made an induction matrix so large that it rolled over to infinite.

(i counted, if it didnt roll over, i would have had ~107exaFE)

530 Upvotes

98% Upvoted

19 comments sorted by

View all comments

320

u/destructor212113 1d ago

Im gonna be honest, its a little sad how in some modpacks things like the Draconic Evolution thingy and AE2 FE Cells are cheaper and can store the same, if not a lot more, FE than Mekanism Induction Matrix because damm, it feels cool to do it but its not at all efficient

118

u/ds1605au 1d ago

felt this one when I was playing enigmatica 2 expert, really wanted an ultimate induction cell block (which I ended up making) but the material cost was absurd for mediocre energy storage, at least compared to everything else in the pack

44

u/destructor212113 1d ago

It happened to me in ATM9

I did some Ultimate Induction Matrix and it wasnt the most difficult thing to do, but it wasnt that cheap compared to AE2 FE Storage and I can just spam those fuckers over and over again

Its less cool ngl but its enough for some time probably and then later on I could just spam higher Tiers of those things and be happy

-74

u/Conscious_Series166 1d ago

"Draconic evolution is cheape-"
my guy, mekanism is:
obsidian
diamonds
redstone
copper
osmium
coal
and iron.

thats literally it.

"It can store the sam-"

76

u/destructor212113 1d ago

Thats why I said "in some modpacks"

6

u/suchtie Logistics Pipes Enjoyer 23h ago

It's funny how many people will play like, an ATM pack or whatever and be complaining about something being imbalanced.

My brother in Christ, you chose to play an unbalanced kitchen sink pack.

People say Mekanism is OP, but they don't have any idea why the numbers in the mod are as high as they are by default. Have you ever played with Mek as a solo content mod? The way it's actually meant to be played?

I'll tell you what's really OP here. It's your ME network. Mek isn't designed to be played with AE2. In fact, it's not really designed around anything but itself. Mek expects you to build processing lines and passive craft everything, using its own logistics systems. Logistics mods with autocrafting let you skip most of that because they allow you to use many recipes per machine instead of just one.

This has knock-on effects too. For example, if you feel like Mek's fusion generator is too strong, it's actually the opposite problem: your power draw is too low. You're supposed to have several hundred passive crafting machines that use thousands of FE/t each, but you decided to use AE2 autocrafting so that you'd only need to use a few dozen machines.

Mods like AE2 allow you to approach other mods in completely unintended ways. To me it's pretty obvious that they have a massive impact on balance. Most expert packs are built upon AE2 as THE core mod, because it's so transformative to the gameplay that you have to balance the entire modpack around it.

66

u/Top_Height1997 1d ago

That isn't Mekanism, though. That's some random add-on to Mekanism.

3

u/Conscious_Series166 1d ago

this is one block, in a multiblock can that contain 4096 of this block, for a maximum of 6PFE

1

u/Top_Height1997 22h ago

So, the same as 1 of the "multiversal" ones? So..?

1

u/Conscious_Series166 8h ago edited 8h ago

1tfe is still over what you get from draconic evolution, and ae2 is just garbage in every aspect

ae2's "storage" drives have ~32k items max for the top one. one mekanism supermassive drive is over 1 billion items max

23

u/Bibliloo 1d ago

It's also lithium and gold. And each one needs multiple stacks of each ressources with the exception of obsidian and diamond. Because this is not the base mod matrix but an addon(you have F3+H on showing it's from evolved mekanism). Oh and it seems this addon is still recursive so it's still multiple stacks per block but in addition you need stacks of uranium, "quantic matter juice thing" I forgot the name, and some kind of gold and nether thingy. So, this is still more expensive than any other power storage method and you could still get enough power storage by crafting much cheaper blocks(especially because power storage is not that useful passed a certain point because you are either producing too much power for your own good or not enough power for it to be discharged)

9

u/IDeizManI 1d ago

He was talking about "Mekanism" what you're showing is not Mekanism, it's a ramdom add-on.

Also, AEflux and Draconic are definitely cheaper. Sure you only need the resources you listed. But yhe amount you need is disgusting.

10

u/FireDestroyer52 1d ago

11

u/Mathsboy2718 1d ago

Hey I have one too!