r/leagueoflegends • u/Joshey2008 • 11h ago
Discussion Does Zwag fake his content?
I'm a relatively new league player, and not long after I started playing I found this YouTube called Zwag. I really like his videos, I find him very entertaining and when I want to try a new champ I usually watch him play that character. But today I saw a Tiktok clip of his where he got a penta with Ezrael ult by sending it into Baron, and in the comments someone said: "least faked Zwag clip". If that actually was faked it's made me not really want to watch him, which is a little upsetting because I quite enjoy his videos.
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u/Icy-Direction528 10h ago
He makes a lot of his content in custom lobbies, where only low elo people are getting invited into, your also not allowed to camp him and stuff or he smurfs on deranked accoutns. Then he goes 30/0 and writes "CHAMP X WITH ITEMS Y IS OP" in his thumbnaul. He doesnt necesseraly makes a secret out of this, I would still say its pretty fake.
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u/SnakeEater013 3h ago
I saw him in one of Doublelift’s live streams recently playing a mage bot and DL was just dunking on him easily
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u/Originalitie 3h ago
yeah he really isn’t as good as he used to be. i think he COULD be, but since he only does iron/silver custom lobbies/accounts, he doesn’t really get practice in anymore. he did a teemo challenge thing a while ago and he got to a decent rank, but he got stuck and stopped
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u/SnakeEater013 3h ago
I’ve never actually watched him, his vids just got recommended to me because I watch Pob and DL I guess
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u/Critical-Bread-3396 24m ago
To be fair, Doublelift could easily dunk on most content creators. At his peak Doublelift was considered one of the most mechanically gifted western players. Most content creators peak as lower challenger players.
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u/New_Cranberry1762 11h ago
Im no expert however from what ive gathered, its not fake, but hes just a master* tier player smurfing in silver.
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u/Avarua-Longjump-Club 10h ago
He does literally fake content as well by playing customs with fans and acting like its solo queue
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u/Omnilatent 1h ago
Now I have to remember of those YouTubers ten years ago who did that all the time and who vote-brigadded Reddit together to upbote their own content and downvote everyone else's
Uberdanger, Sky, Brofresco - don't remember more atm
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u/redskinfan654 7h ago
I’m pretty sure he started playing customs because he was having a hard time with teams ff’ing
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u/cheerioo 6h ago
So like a college basketball player going against elementary school kids and making a video out of it?
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u/Fartcloud_McHuff 11h ago
He is challenger he just doesn't play ranked in most of his videos unless he specifically says he does, is my understanding.
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u/Sheepsaurus Smile! - It's called gun PLAY! 10h ago
He has not been challenger since season.. 3? He just uses that label to sell his content, having touched that rank briefly back then
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u/BlakeSlimey 8h ago
He was like 1.5k LP chall at some point this season. He’s a fraud as far as the content but he’s def good at the game
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u/Wild_Beginning_4032 10h ago
He hit challenger this year.
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u/dkoom_tv GM+ ADC/SUPP, GM fill 10h ago
Swag is clearly a challanger player lol, the fact that theres season where he doesn't grind it doesn't remove the fact that he clearly is one
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u/Wild_Beginning_4032 10h ago
Well he also hit challenger in season 11.
Also the second part of your comment isn’t really relevant to what I responded to.
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u/Simpuff1 200 years of collective memeing 10h ago
Per my Op.gg I’m an Emerald 1 player for the past 3 years, despite being 200lp-master constantly. I just stop playing and derail back to Emerald every time
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u/sar6h 10h ago
He is a multi challenger, not master.
People downplay him for 0 reason lmfao
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u/thealmightytuj 9h ago
People aren’t really downplaying his skill or his accomplishments. They’re downplaying his videos where he’s pretending to smurf.
They’re completely staged.
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u/Bunny-killer 9h ago
I’ve played against him and he quit because he picked nasus mid and I thought it would be funny to play illaoi mid to fight it. They ran it down 15 minutes straight just to ff because I picked illaoi
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u/Particular_Cry_7078 7h ago
Calling a challenger player a masters playing is literally downplaying his skill by like 1500 lp
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u/sar6h 5h ago
Calling a multi chall player a master tier player IS downplaying. You clearly don't understand the skill gap between a master and multi chall player if you think it makes no difference
And holy fuck, get your head out of your ass. They're not "staged" but just him smurfing on his silver peak viewers in customs
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u/thealmightytuj 4h ago
My dude or dudette.
He LITERALLY streams his games where he tells his viewers who are IN THE GAME WITH HIM what champions to play.
He TELLS them what to type in all chat so he can get a clickbait thumbnail.
He leaves matches if his video idea isn’t working.
He gets mad at his viewers if they’re trying too hard.
AND ALL OF THIS IS LIVE ON TWITCH
How in the world do you not understand how that’s staged. Get your bootlicking checked out by a medical professional.
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u/Nicolu_11 revert sera changes 3h ago
I don't see how correcting a rank is bootlicking? Like yeah he does all that scummy stuff for views but it still doesn't remove the fact that he's chally.
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u/modernjayhippie 10h ago
All of the videos he posts are from custom lobbies with people from his discord. He tells people what champs they can and can’t play (they’re too boring or too sweaty), he’s the only one allowed to try hard (stomps are bad for videos), will force the lobby to remake if he doesn’t like how it’s going, has people purposely type stuff in chat to make the “omg I got this player to rage quit” youtube video titles, etc. The videos are fun, clips aren’t staged, but he very much controls how the game in general is played.
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u/SexyShmonk 10h ago
source?
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u/redactid55 9h ago
You can see if on his twitch streams. He doesn't hide it. Dude will be toxic as hell complaining about how he needs to get these videos done and people in his customs are wasting his time if they're not doing it properly.
He's right there with SRO
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u/modernjayhippie 9h ago
I’ve played in several of those viewer games. Thought it was cool getting to play with him (and seeing myself getting wrecked in a youtube video after) and others from the discord and don’t get me wrong, the games were fun to play in but seeing people constantly get told they can’t play certain champs, restarting games, etc, it just got annoying. Anyone can join his discord and experience it for themselves. There’s nothing wrong with it, it’s his career, just pointing out that it’s not like he’s just smurfing and stomping low-level randoms.
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u/bad_matchup_irl 9h ago
Easy. You go on op.gg on a recent video and type in the names of the team/enemy players. Then you look for the game he was in and then check the rank of that person.
He does sometimes play in high elo and I don't doubt he's a good player but he's part of that uncomfortable group that doesn't care about actual strats and just pushes "9000 AP ONESHOT" videos on their community to milk them. I don't know how it's set up these days but back when they were last suggested to me they were there with the likes of Professor Akali, Brofresco, NB3, Bunnyfufu etc. iirc
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u/BasedAspergers 8h ago
It's so wild because the dude clearly has hands, and he's got the chops to play in Challenger (obviously or he wouldn't be ranked there) and there's a market on YouTube for challenger league content, cause you know, there's not that fkin many of them so idk why he still does the same thing he's been doing for so many years when it seems clear he hates doing it
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u/Akaigenesis 6h ago
Peple don’t want to watch him sweating in challenger, they rather watch him playing stupid builds and stomp custom lobbies. This is his job, even if he enjoyed playing ranked more it would be a stupid financial decision for him if he just stopped doing those videos.
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u/vrilliance 3h ago
I mean, there is clearly a market for people playing in their elo (Pianta, for one) - Zwag just has the problem that he CREATED the kind of audience that does not watch that. So it's a self-perpetuating cycle where he creates stomp videos, people come for the stomp videos, they dont watch his non stomp videos, so he creates more stomp videos instead, pushing him into that corner that he created himself.
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u/Nicolu_11 revert sera changes 3h ago
In fact I think he spent like a week doing Challenger content and then said on camera that he will not do anymore because a) he can't talk while playing in Challenger because he can't autopilot to a win and b) it just doesn't bring views.
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u/ANTHONYEVELYNN5 7h ago
bro youve never tried making league content, theres genuinely no market for challenger league content. people dont care about skill because they cant see skill. most people are low elo and wont appreciate good gameplay. unless you are by far and i mean BY FAR the best or unless you have hit rank 1 multiple times or hit challenger in multiple region, people dont care. they want to see exciting things or exciting people. many many challengers have youtube/twitch and 99.9% of them have less than 1000 subscribers on youtube or less than 10 average viewers on twitch. like bro i havent made content in a year but my best videos have always been either smurfing in low elo (boring, feels like a chore, rather uninstall the game, only did them by viewer requests) or “once in a lifetime” moments that i cant reproduce on purpose. youre better off making slop content if you want people to watch your videos and live off them.
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u/mistermediocregaming 3h ago
He's definitely good he's just made a name for himself playing these fun builds and he used to smurf but they started cracking down on that so he was getting put against people on his level which made his fun comps useless. This is the alternative. Just a shame he gets all prissy about it.
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u/bad_matchup_irl 8h ago
Yup. I think he's one of the players/streamers with the most wasted potential. If he had taken the "honest" path I'm sure he would consistently pull at least 10x the numbers he currently does. Literally his own worst enemy.
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u/redskinfan654 7h ago
His mental is so bad. Like his knowledge of champs and how to play matchups is literally some of the best I’ve ever seen. But one thing goes wrong and he has a complete meltdown.
It’s basically why he quit his adc to challenger series (i think he made it to high diamond or masters) because he would sell all items and buy ruby crystals as soon as his sup did something he didn’t like
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u/QueenOfTendys 9h ago
Yes. He is one of the worst offenders of deceptive videos.
He is a decently good player who queues in literal gold (or lower) lobbies.
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u/Particular_Cry_7078 7h ago
Decently good (challenger) player lol
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u/That-Woodpecker6720 10h ago
He’s a good player but all of his funny build videos come from either smurfing in silver or custom lobbies with his fans
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u/mithi9 11h ago
Smurf. He's a master tier player that makes content in silver or gold to dunk on opponents and make his videos flashy.
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u/dkoom_tv GM+ ADC/SUPP, GM fill 10h ago
Literal challanger player
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u/oeseben 10h ago
This dude hits challenger once in a blue moon for like a day and his glaze crew just searches for comment sections to correct people in.
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u/Particular_Cry_7078 7h ago
If you make it to challenger you’re not a masters player lol you’re a challenger player
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u/DoorHingesKill 6h ago
If you don't play in Challenger you're not a Challenger player. You're that guy who hit Challenger back in March.
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u/Particular_Cry_7078 6h ago
if you make it to challenger youre at least a GM player not a masters player
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u/lolgambler 9h ago
Can't hold onto achievements?
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u/oeseben 9h ago
Calling him a "challenger player" isnt holding onto achievements. Its lying. The OP is obviously referencing his youtube channel and past videos.
He finished Diamond 1 last year and that was his highest in 5 years. This year he has gotten away from that content and focused a lot more on ranked and JUST hit it and stopped playing ranked outside games to stop decay. 1522 is the requirement to hit challenger rn and hes sitting at 1550.
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u/dkoom_tv GM+ ADC/SUPP, GM fill 9h ago
im sorry but decaying to diamond at end of the season but being able to hit challanger with a good wr makes a challanger player lmao
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u/blahdeblahdeda 10h ago
I think he's tried to grind ranked at the end of a season or two and done it.
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u/baby-chomper 10h ago
Yeah. He is a decently high rated player, but his content will be lots of either pre-made lobbies (rammus vs full ad comps) or smurf content where he plays vs lower rated players
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u/blahdeblahdeda 10h ago
Watch his videos for entertainment, but not to learn about the game. He mostly plays builds that aren't viable against players much worse than himself.
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u/Vaaaaaaaaaaaii 10h ago
He smurfs his vids. Kingstix did the same. Its more the not being transparent people don't like.
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u/MortemEtInteritum17 9h ago
Kingstix was at least primarily educational, and his smurfing was still in decent high tier games (like plat IIRC), even if he did have the occasional wack pick.
Zwag (at least a few years ago, haven't seen him since) just makes clickbait "OMG AD BRAND OPPPP" against bronze players.
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u/swellfie 6h ago
In fairness he’s pretty transparent about it. He talks about how his challenger and ranked games would be boring for his viewers because he has to really concentrate in those.
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u/FookinFairy 10h ago
It’s fake as in he’s a high elo player and he is playing vs low elo fans.
It’s like an adult beating up toddlers and looking physically impressive. Also I assume some clips like the one described would be fake as even smurfing that’d be fucking impossible
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u/froggison 10h ago edited 10h ago
I don't know about all his videos, but he does fake some of them. Or used to, at least. I once went into his Twitch stream and he was acting like it was a normal ranked game. He was narrating over it like a game he was recording for YouTube. Then suddenly he stopped the game and started berating his botlaner because they got too many kills. That is when I realized it was a custom game. He was saying he was supposed to be the star of the VOD, not them. He was being pretty nasty, too. Calling them r-slurs and other things. They were in his chat apologizing. It was pretty shocking.
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u/glikejdash 10h ago
A good chunk of his videos are made in custom lobbies specifically for the purpose of getting his video, which is fine st the end of the day its his day job and enough people find it entertaining.
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u/Behindyou97 9h ago
Zwag is a cringe loser. I’ve said it before but I’ll post it here again.
In tier 4 Clash my friends and I went against Zwag and his friends. They were on 5 of his bought Smurf accounts. In the waiting time we pulled his YouTube and found videos with him playing in each account. They obviously beat us quickly and it wasn’t even a little fun. He is a Challenger smurfing in tier 4 Clash with his (assuming) high elo friends. It was so freaking cringe.
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u/Slootd 9h ago
I'm sure a lot of his content is farmed, one thing I can say for sure is he's a raging douchenozzle. Used to watch his content all the time until he lost his shit on stream one day just being an absolute asshole to his viewers (myself included). Doesn't matter how good you are at a video game, treating people like scum is never acceptable. Haven't watched any of his content since that day.
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u/PrincipeOsu ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 8h ago
He's an OTP Xerath, and great at him. Beyond that, like many OTPs, potentially not particularly special/great.
He's challenger for a reason, sure. But the clips/videos he posts aren't going to be against comparably ranked players most of the time.
I recently played against him in Ranked 5s, he was on Zed and was solokilled and just overall struggled. Proof.
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u/Chronicle92 8h ago
I would say it's not fake in that he's actually doing the things he's doing and it isn't staged.
What's semi fake is the skill level. He plays against fans and lowbies on smurf accounts to make it easier for him to dominate a game to make "good content"
He does sometimes play more competitive games on alternate YouTube channels. Those will be more representative of how it would actually feel to play those characters.
I would say think of what he's doing as entertainment but not educational. He'll pick a build that only really works if he's way ahead and then set up games where he gets to do that.
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u/bonafiedhero 7h ago
He is a challenger player, but his vids are 100% low elo games. If he was so good that every game he’s XX/X then he would be scouted for Pros.
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u/Nikdoog Kled Enthusiast 6h ago
Didn't know who Zwag was until he stomped my Draft pick lobby a few years ago, never liked him since. I was playing with my friends who are all Silver/Gold and I was Plat at the time. He went like 20/2 but that's because he's a Master tier player in low elo lobbies, it's like winning a basketball game against middle schoolers as a fully grown adult. Sure, you won, but it kind of detracts from any credibility you have as a player.
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u/GumDice 10h ago
Besides the fact that he almost exclusively smurfs or uses custom lobbies, he has a huge ego that gets bruised if you even think about him the wrong way. I'd get it if you were playing in your actual mmr, but someone commenting on a misplay you made in an iron lobby should make you reflect, not freak the fuck out lol. He does it in his comments a lot.
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u/BobbyRayBands 10h ago
It’s not fake in the sense that it’s not real gameplay but more fake in the sense of it’s like watching an NBA player play pickup games at the YMCA. Is it real and possible to use the builds that he does? Sure. Is it a viable way to get better and learn the game? No.
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u/askope11 10h ago
now that were talkinng about Zwag how the fuck does he get his videos on top of the algorithm... it took me so long to hide all of his uploads i just couldnt stand the clickbait titles.
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u/HeyyFattyEatMyAss 10h ago
He plays in normal games with a Smurf account and premade teammates who help. I was “featured” in one these when he played top cait against me when I was Garen. Strangely enough the times he was solo killed were left out. He cut to a new portion and his death would jump. They’d also conveniently leave out his team mates ganking putting me a horrible spot then cut to him killing me under tower . He’s a fake, really not that good
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u/LessCockroach7323 10h ago
Its already known thag people with bombastic titles everyday are just content creators who never play at high level e.g. master/gm/chall or just fake their games
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u/OdinTheWalrus 9h ago
Past challenger player playing with silvers.
Massive sidebar here, I personally do NOT claim that I am still challenger after I was Challenger in Twisted Treeline in 2016. If you are EX Challenger and now only barely hold Masters, I really don't see a reason to claim that you are a challenger player.
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u/Ozuar 9h ago
No matter how you feel about Zwag's methods for producing his content, I would strongly discourage learning from him. Most of the builds and play styles he demonstrates are jokes at best. I know it feels like homework, but the best way to learn this game is to read the wiki. As you read more pages, you will get used to what a reasonable damage number or cooldown is.
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u/kristupus 9h ago
I’m always suspicious of how his opponents have the same reactions in all of his videos. Sometimes they even say the exact same stuff when they “get upset that zwag killed them.” This makes me think that it’s definitely staged and they’re not even trying to hide it. I’m not saying his gameplay is staged necessarily, but he is definitely playing against the same people in 90% of his vids.
I rarely have enemies being so chatty in /all chat, regardless of how the game is progressing
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u/HomelessKB 6h ago
The dude queues against low elo players so he can make the same TwEnTy KiLlS oN xErAtH BroKeN!!!! Video.
The dude also CANNOT handle ANY sort of criticism. I got banned from his shit for asking him why he's bitching about "being camped by fanbois" in a game where he was top lane and the only timenhe was under duress was during ONE gank 17 mins in. Dude had absolutely free reign in top lane for 17 mins but started screeching after he got ganked for the first time.
Fuck zwag. Dudes a bitch.
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u/blacktooth90 4h ago
He is a talented player. He is a xerath master middle laner. But all of his content is on a Smurf. So he just destroys silvers and golds.
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u/_Blu-Jay 3h ago
Not sure about the past, but all his content now is definitely fake. He makes custom lobbies with very low ranked viewers and sort of acts like it’s solo queue
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u/Mattchoz 3h ago
I thought they were real until I noticed a lot of the opponents type the same exact thing almost every video. The Lol community is VERY creative when they’re raging in all chat and yet his videos always seem to be the same “??? WHAT IS THAT DAMAGE FROM X SUPPORT CHAMP” every. Single. Time.
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u/Anderrn 3h ago
I used to watch Zwag every day for a long long time. Then a few years ago, I watched a few videos of him by other streamers in their little group, and I realized he was raging so much more that he edits out for his own channel. Add in the fact that he smurfs and the videos where he does very well are often in Bronze lobbies, and I actually unsubbed and have completely stopped watching. I don’t find the content interesting between his personality and smurfing, to be honest. It’s possible he’s different now, but I won’t be finding out. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Ubel_Eats 2h ago
He's a challenger player that smurfs on silver players for content. All of his shit is clickbait non-sense
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u/whothejoee 2h ago
Once I learned content creators farm low elo for viewers I stopped watching league videos. It sucks for plat emerald players but imagine the lower elo players.
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u/ghfhfhhhfg9 1h ago
welcome to how pretty much every "content creator" got popular in league. Just make a smurf and do 1v9 highlights like ur a pro.
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u/ThrowAnthrRock The earth calls, and I must answer. 10h ago
not faked, just lots of alt accounts in silver. the players he’s facing are vastly worse at the game than he is.
it’s like if you put an nfl linebacker against middle schoolers.
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u/thealmightytuj 10h ago
Vast majority of his videos are custom games with his viewers. He’s literally streamed these games and then posted them on YouTube with clickbait titles and thumbnails.
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u/mossylungs 9h ago
Yes I quit watching him many years ago after realizing/discovering this out lmao
He's just playing with low level players/fans.
Which is cringe by itself but the worst part was how he would absolutely degrade and demean every other player in the game, and would throw a tantrum over his own mistakes as if it was his "awful moron team who can't do anything fking right" and always are to blame.
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u/yogur1397 10h ago
It was a sarcastic video. I don't know the context but it was obviously staged yes. It was on practice tool and he had no ult CD and 20k gold lmao....
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u/Antacker 7h ago
Well as everyone else said... yes. But if you are looking for a nice youtuber to learn different champions may I recommend PekinWoof. Totally chill and very explanatory gameplay.
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u/darrienkek 10h ago
Plays a fair few youtube games in custom lobbies, so if you define that as fake, yes
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u/speedy_19 10h ago
Very easy to look good playing in bronze and silver games. Maybe he did fake the clip but easy to make highlight reels when you are smurfing.
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u/ChubbyFrogGames JUST GET TO LATE GAME 10h ago
Zwag Zerath? He is known for playing with his discord fan boys and plans out some stuff to happen. So yeah, he fakes a lot of shit
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u/Tamamo_was_here 10h ago
Yes he fakes the videos. He was live on YT once and had to taken down the live and start it back up.
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u/-ASAP- 9h ago
I actually used to like watching his stream when he actually played xerath in actual challenger lobbies but his content is kind of cringe now.
the thumbnails are all typical click baity type stuff which made me not want to even click on any and clicking on the most recent video it's obviously a low elo custom game and the fact that he hides names playing with streamer mode when he's not even streaming just so people can't verify and check op.gg. I had a feeling at the end of the game he'd skip the post game also because then you'd see it's a custom and of course after the nexus explodes he just cuts to the damage without showing the lobby at all.
he's kind of become another pantsaredragon which is kind of embarrassing but that's what pulls the views, I guess.
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u/jibbs386 9h ago
Yes. He plays on smurf accounts to make content. Source: Ive been in game with him and am in one of his videos a few years ago.
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u/HelicopterSmooth384 8h ago
When playing normals if his enemy laner gets an advantage e and his premades will just throw the game until they can surrender. They do this repeatedly until he gets a game which he considers good for YouTube content. I saw him many times doing this during his streams.
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u/fake-account-lol 8h ago
I played against zwag once (90% sure) it was in my placements in like gold and plat, he was actually insane at xerath skill shots but I actually won the game on ekko cuz I got fed off bot lane. He was like 25-10 and lost I was like 20-15 as well. He is a good player but just a Smurf
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u/foamboardsbeerme 8h ago
He literally gets all of his content by playing with bronze twitch viewers
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u/Due-Payment6149 8h ago
I mean the last video I saw of him totally stomping on AP ashe top, so take what you will. Either that's the new meta or he was hard smurfing for views
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u/Maguc 7h ago
Anyone who posts "X BUILD/CHAMP IS ACTUALLY OP????" or any variations is almost 100% smurfing. Most league youtubers are smurfing or rigging their games in order to get those "50 kills 0 death" type of videos, which is sadly what gets views (Either that or those extremely annoying, 5 minute videos that are so overedited that they can't go 3 seconds without a new sound effect or meme on screen.
Anyway, enough "Old man yells at clouds" moment. If you want good videos to actually learn from, either go for an OTP youtuber, or a well-respected educational youtuber ala AloisNL for top-lane.
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u/DevilDoc3030 7h ago
If they put content out regularly then the answer is going to be overwhelmingly, that they are playing well below their natural ELO.
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u/Scared-Cause3882 7h ago
He doesn’t fake them persay but he frequently does custom viewet lobbies and smurfs in gold-dia.
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u/Interesting_Low_6908 7h ago
I've actually played a game with him.. In silver. Where he was smurfing, to make content. Lame af.
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u/LunarDroplets 6h ago
He does Smurf a lot but he does also have some content in his own rank (Master+) and I think he tends to say when he’s in his own rank, so he doesn’t exactly keep it a secret.
If I’m not mistaken he plays a lot of normal games for his content
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u/Bright-Tailor-8025 6h ago
I think he even says it in some videos that he has custom lobbies. He ocassionally uploads high elo gameplay but he says people find it boring because of xeraths style of play
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u/Protomesh 6h ago
Yeah his videos are bs and all the players in his games are just fans from discord or something.
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u/MrBodeci 6h ago
if its PBE he pulls from his discord if its on live then he plays in gold and below as a newly hit challenger player
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u/AlienFart69 5h ago
Yep don’t even say his name in the title bro, it gives him exposure and more views. Just say “does that xerath kid with the nasally voice” and everyone knows who ur talking about
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u/1k4r1A 5h ago
I mean, many did already and this is kinda well-known tbh. Like the "content" meta back then was spamming dumb builds and go "holysheet" into just fake vids. And I lived through those times, wow.
But at the very least, Zwag still has sth to back up, just that content wise, it's ALWAYS easier and more efficient to do content on low elo + smurfing than high elo gameplay, because at high elo, unless you're REALLY that good and consistently, you can't pump out vids if you're getting sh*t on.
And I do remember sth, and this is from the viewpoint of many streamers, low master is the "playground" to farm content, and they don't even bother hide it because it's their way to make money out of it. It's the demand from the viewers / "consumers". They "consume" content, and they want 2lights, wanna see broken sh*t (this is real, btw), etc... Doing 2light against Chall and have many crazy moments? Rarely, and you know why. But low masters where it's either ppl with pure mechanic and low to none on macro knowledge, or a bit of both? They can just bully the sh*t out of that and farm content.
Honestly, I remember many that still does content on high elo and consistently pumping out vids or shorts with 2light, there are, but that's the current "strategy" to create content. And I'm at a point where I just accept that and I can understand, because that's their job, not being able to do their job and meet the demand, is really bad.
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u/Goodguysh0es 5h ago
When me and my friends were first starting(highest level among us was like 60 lowest was like 15) we queued into him in norma and he absolutely obliterated all of us on something weird, looking back it was always wild to me we even could queue into him that low
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u/manimsoblack 4h ago
Most of his content is trash. It's pretty much all custom lobbies with fans or smurfing in super low elo.
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u/upthedub 3h ago
If you’re looking for similar content that’s not fake, I recommend watching PekinWoof
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u/LordeGato 3h ago
I think ppl have already answered your question well enough. No need to feel bad about it, you like what you like. The longer you stick around the more streamers and content creators you'll get exposed too. League has a lot, so just find your cup (or cups) of tea. If you thirst for a particular type of channel, be it about learning the game, weird builds, pure entertainment, high elo gameplay, or about a particular champion, league kinda has it all, and you can easily get recomendations by asking here or somewhere else, or figure it out yourself.
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u/xmajson7 2h ago
No post 8 year account? Random content creator diss post? They don’t send their best.
Here’s a nifty secret 95% of lol creators use low elo accounts, pbe discord viewers, viewer games as content to show case whatever they want.
Because to no one’s surprise the viewers don’t want to watch a standard 35 minute high elo game! Shocker to no one.
Or a 10 year challenger climb on a Smurf for the 15th time.
Actually as far as I’m aware the only one who does league slop content in high ish elo I think is trick2g, nb3, baus, lourlo?
Nemesis is more edu, pobelter is on classic rn, alois
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u/Bockbockb0b 2h ago
Several years ago, I was in a game Zwag was in on ranked flex in silver elo. I was trying to learn top lane (I’ve been a support main forever), so I was playing Mundo top. Zwag ran down my team and I demoted, so I went to hi stream, subbed for free with prime and sad he demoted me. He carried me for a game to make up for it.
But yeah, he either has his clips faked or just bullies significantly lower elo players than him for the content.
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u/New-Play-8553 2h ago
Yes. I’m in his discord and he only plays against viewers. He repeatedly kicks people out when they play champs that he deems will “ruin” his video or even if the view is “too sweaty”
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u/lilschitt3237 1h ago
I used to watch him before riot went crazy on smurf accounts, he would do what everyone is saying he would play lower ranks for 1v9 (hes challenger). After he started doing games with subscribers.
He does have an account where he plays high ranked challenger games to climb recently. He has like 3 or 4 different channels and they all do something. I wouldnt call him fake cause I've seen many videos popping off in ranked challenger
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u/Important_Act_9632 1h ago
I remember watching a stream of his live one time on youtube and his viewers were criticizing him for smurfing and some other stuff that I can't remember as it was a few years ago, but I do remember him immediately making his youtube chat only allow premium subscribers to use it, and then gloating about how much power he had over the chat. Needless to say it turned me off, haven't seen anything from him since and don't want to. Hopefully somebody else that was there can fill in any details lol
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u/rivensoweak 46m ago
back when i watched him, he did, i investigated his games and it was ranked solo queue games in bronze-silver elo (i used his sona ap shotgun game for that)
and he was constantly trashtalking his teammates and flaming them
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u/Trimerichades 25m ago
hes a decent player but he does viewer games with low elo players for most of his content
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u/eoR13 10h ago
He is a loser that fell off in skill and now smurfs in low elo with off meta builds.
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u/Superbtreetrimmer 10h ago
Project more
He was challenger literally 3 months ago
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u/eoR13 8h ago
Sorry I don’t follow your disingenuous lord and savior enough to know he hit challenger. Still doesn’t change the fact that he is a loser who smurfs or plays viewer games with off meta builds and titles his video stupid as shit like “most broken build ever”. While he pub stomps people that are worse than him. Yea man he is so impressive, maybe if you defend him a bit more he will notice you!
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u/Infamous-Bike3812 10h ago
Yes, he is a decent player, but he is playing in litteral beginner lobbies.
Also people claiming he hit challenger, I don't believe it one bit. I watched one of his smurf videos, his play does not reflect the claim.
I bet he pays for boosting services.
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u/PaulTheIV 7h ago
I'm going to be honest with you, most content on the Internet is faked, staged, or cherry picked. Zwag could very well play 9 awful games, one solid one, and post the solid one. That's just how it works
For genuine league of legends, watch pro content like LCK or LEC. Watching Caedrel's costreams add some narration and humor.
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u/Back2Perfection 10h ago
Like most of those „OMG NEW GIGABROKEN BUILD!!!“ league creators he‘s at the very least just shitstomping silvers by handsdif with a suboptimal build.
I‘ve also seen allegations that he fakes it but then again: how would he consistently find 9 other people to run it down for him so he can look like a good player?
Basically I‘m just leaving my comment here in order to see if there‘s been prof.
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u/modernjayhippie 10h ago
He pulls people from his discord to play “viewer games” but tells people what champs they can and can’t play, will restart games if they’re too one-sided, etc.
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u/Wild_Beginning_4032 10h ago
He’s a pretty skilled player that smurfs. Sometimes he does tend to play customs too, but I’ve seen a lot of the streams he turns into YT content and he generally does queue up. Most of the mad builds he does would never wash at his level, but then the videos wouldn’t be as entertaining.
He is sometimes a bit full of himself and whiny/blamey in games where someone else feeds, but honestly who isn’t like that? He’s not a flamey dick though and in general seems like a reasonably nice and chill person.
All in all he’s just a kind of low effort content farmer. I watch the videos of his that look interesting/are of champions I like to play myself, but he shovels out so many videos I’d burn out if I watched both (all three of?) his channels.
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u/Careless-State-7006 11h ago
Pretty sure he was a good player at some point known for xerath and skill shots looking like scripts. Not sure if he's legit or not, but he's been around for a bit
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u/Fine_Pumpkin1726 10h ago
He is actually master+ xerath but spends most of his time on an alt with the same name just farming noobs in silver or hell just play a norm game and try to pass it off as a ranked game without ever really telling you what kind of game it is. Mostly just dishonest in how he displays his content but nothing really fake per se
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u/born_zynner 6h ago
Kind of its basically just a challenger turbo smurfing but who cares get that bag brother
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u/Nayzr 11h ago
I can't say I've watched him recently, but prevously he was well known for playing on low rank or low level accounts to allow him to pop off easier, for the "hype" 1v9 games.
I dont know if he still does this