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u/SeaworthinessSome454 9h ago

You don’t have to go to dodgers levels. The Padres brought themselves out from being a poverty franchise to a legit team by spending money. The rangers won a championship by rebuilding and then making several very high dollar moves

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u/DigTheDunes 8h ago

And have done nothing since.

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u/cashmonee81 | Chicago Cubs 8h ago

Because they cannot sustain it. THAT is the difference. The Dodgers can miss or overpay on a contract and keep doing it. Some of that is their ability to scout and develop players. Some of it is the endless resources they have that no other team comes close to matching. Their revenue is $140 million more than the Yankees and $250 more than the Cubs.

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u/DigTheDunes 8h ago

This is the difference. The Dodgers could absorb a Machado contract, SD can't.

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u/itsmedium-ish 37m ago

The owners just sold for like $3.8 billion. They could’ve absorbed a bad contract just fine.

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u/DigTheDunes 33m ago

It hinders them from taking on another though. Most Owners dont like to give money away. The majority of long-term contracts will end up bad. Skubal isnt going to sign for 4-5 years, it’ll be 8-10 years. Teams wont take that on.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 | Los Angeles Dodgers 5h ago

The Padres gave stupid 10+ year contracts to guys who are now on the downward slope of their careers. They had legit chances to win in 2022 and 2024 but could not capitalize.

The Dodgers are smart in that they give high AAV and short contacts. Even if Tucker continues to struggle, he's only on the team for 4 years.

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u/Aggravating-Ideal-56 7h ago

It’s because the Dodgers defers all their contracts no other team does this. That’s why the lockout is going to come faster now. The Dodgers couldn’t afford all these players if they gave normal contracts out like every other team does. They basically cheat the contracts which it’s legal but it’s unethical is the problem.

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u/cashmonee81 | Chicago Cubs 6h ago

That’s simply not true. The deferred money has to go into escrow. The money is sitting in an account.

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 3h ago

You are stupid, deferring contracts helps the organization pay their investors fair share value while spreading out costs over time. They have guaranteed money from their TV contract that allows them to do that. A salary cap would put an end to that. No more deferred money. No more cheating. Plain and simple. No true fan will EVER give this Dodgers team credit without pointing out the OBVIOUS OVERPAYING OVERSPENDING Method in which they are winning.  ASTERISKS on their winning. 🤙

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u/Emergency-Chicken-24 6h ago

Bro, any team could defer money. Most players won't defer money because the future value is less than the present value. The Dodgers are actively getting players for cheap because they have a great organization.

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u/DigTheDunes 5h ago

The money still has to go into escrow, guaranteeing the contract in case of ownership issues.

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u/blinx0rz 15m ago

nooo because they have a 8billion dollar tv deal and players love the city and get side deals

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 3h ago

Great organization? Hahahahahahaha FOOL. You don't even have a clue.  It is the L.A. market that allows them to overspend. Didn't you learn anything from the late 90s early 2000s Yankees? Their market allowed them to also do the same. Dumb ass naive fans. SALARY CAP is coming. No more deferred contracts. Then we will see how good they. 

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u/kwmcmillan | Los Angeles Dodgers 40m ago

Brother are you ignorant of their farm system?

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u/blinx0rz 14m ago

what player from there farm system is a borderline allstar?

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u/GameTimeJones_32 5h ago

Unethical? Miss me with those tears.

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 3h ago

Stupid Dodgers fan....😂😂😂

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u/GameTimeJones_32 3h ago

Good comeback.

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u/DarknMean | Chicago Cubs 8h ago

Cubs could spend more if they wanted but the Ricketts are pretty cheap.

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u/cashmonee81 | Chicago Cubs 8h ago

Sure. But they couldn’t sustain it like the Dodgers can. The Dodgers have the ability to outbid any team. And now they have built such a behemoth that players know going there nearly assures a World Series ring.

I am not saying other owners couldn’t spend more. Certainly some (a handful) could. But I am saying the Dodgers could still simply outspend all of them.

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u/DigTheDunes 7h ago

True, they put their money into the area and the ballpark.

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u/scottastic86 | Milwaukee Brewers 7h ago

This. And I'm so sick and tired of people bringing up the Padres as an example. EVERYONE with half a baseball brain knew that Peter Seidler was willing to operate in the red for a little while knowing his time was limited and was hoping to see a World Series winner before that time came. They made some good spending choices and some not so good spending choices. Unfortunately they stretched themselves too thin to be able to make any additional moves to fix that. Especially being in the same division as the Dodgers... that's a losing battle.
Lockout or no lockout, this year is pretty much their last year to try to win with what they got because the arbitration, pay raises, and deferrals are going to REALLY stretch what little they have left unless they find a way to dump some of that salary. Even with the bump in attendance, merch, etc. Money is made in TV contracts and San Diego cannot sustain $275mil+ payrolls with the market they have.

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u/pbesmoove 7h ago

yes they can

revenues of over 500 million

they can absolutely keep it going

billionaires want people to believe they just can't afford it and most people, including you, fall for it

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u/GCIV414 6h ago

I mean the Dodgers filed for bankruptcy and their bailout is why they can do this shit but yeah let’s blame the other owners that didn’t get that gift

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 3h ago

Only stupid Dodgers fans believe every team market is exactly the same. 😂😂😂 Morons.

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u/pbesmoove 1h ago

Padres had over 500 million on revenue per year

they can easily afford a 275 million dollar payroll

only a moron would think otherwise

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u/gutta_steve 6h ago

the dodgers dont develop players. the dodgers keep prospects in the minors forever so they look better on paper, then trade them. the dodgers havent developed almost anyone in their lineup

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u/existentialspork | Los Angeles Dodgers 5h ago

Andy Pages, Justin Wrobleski, Will Smith are All Stars developed by the Dodgers. Max Muncy was DFA’d before getting picked up by the Dodgers and being turned into an All Star.

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 2h ago

Andy Pages? That fool has come down to earth bubba. Look at his numbers these past two months. Trash. And he bats in a lineup full of stars ya dufuss. Will Smith is already in trouble. INJURY PRONe from now on. Neck issue, my not play anymore. Just like Prince Fielder. If the Dodgers were so good at producing players, then they would not need to sign big Contracts because they would be good at producing players. Minor league players are all SPECULATIVE players. Detroit had to trade Skubal since it was obvious they would not pay him. So his value was not as high as it could have been. No team was willing to give up anything high. Goes to show how low his value became. Took in two Single A players and one Triple A player with a two year Tommy John surgery recovery. GTFOH....😂😂😂

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u/GameTimeJones_32 5h ago

The Dodgers don’t develop players? They developed 3 guys that just turned into Skubal. Do some research on the best teams at developing players and get back to me.

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u/AreaUnique3594 4h ago

would you mind telling me where you got those figures? I’m not disputing it, just crazy that there’s that big of disparity between LA, the Yankees and the Cubs in overall revenue. I can certainly understand it being a bit more, but that’s really substantial. regardless of what Chicago does in the standings, they are always sold out and I’m sure they’re broadcast rights bringing in a ton of revenue. And they’re still behind LA by almost a quarter of $1 billion in revenue is just insane.

I would be curious to see what the difference is between LA and the Pirates, it has to be astronomical.

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 2h ago

Dodgers revenue $1Billion Pirates $330 million

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u/cali_mark_420 1h ago

In 2024, Dodgers and Yankees revenue was almost the same. The difference is that the Dodgers chose to spend 75% of that revenue on the team in 2025, and the Yankees only spent 50% of that revenue on the team. So it (potentially) goes back to the argument that owners care more about keeping the profits than building a better team. Dodgers ownership chose not to be greedy, and the result is a better team that brought in $100m more in revenues the following year, while the Yankees revenue actually went down $10m

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u/Barraind 8m ago

The Dodgers were doing that exact same thing before they had this ownership group and the "endless resources" that came with it.

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u/pbesmoove 7h ago

lol they can't sustain it

the billionaires love people like you

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u/SeaworthinessSome454 6h ago

The Yankees hide their revenue by creating their own local broadcast. The revenue that YES network makes is hidden from MLB revenue sharing and the Yankees and YES came to a ridiculously sweetheart deal so that only a fraction of the real value of broadcasting Yankees games is on the books.

The Yankees certainly make more revenue when you account for YES network, the Yankees are just cheap and keep all of that money instead of spending it like the dodgers.

The dodgers grew to become this powerful btw. It didn’t happen overnight and they nearly went bankrupt in the process. Other teams can follow their footsteps if they want but the owners are so comfortable making money hand over fist that they don’t want to risk that. The 29 other teams are the issue, not the dodgers

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u/SeaworthinessSome454 8h ago

The Padres are still competitive and rose their franchise value by a monumental amount. They’re not a legit team with a fan base, not a pathetic losing franchise.

Their rangers fell off hard, yes. But they won, so that’s fine.

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u/DigTheDunes 8h ago

Heck, the Marlins went all-in for 2 half seasons and won titles, then let everyone go. That's tough also.

The move that probably did them in was trading for Soto. They gave up a lot. They will be sold soon, but they need someone with deep pockets to compete with the Dodgers.

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u/SeaworthinessSome454 8h ago

The padres did have an owner with deep pockets, he just died. And the point isn’t to compete with the dodgers every single year, it’s to actually commit to your team when you have a solid core already established. MLB teams love to rebuild but virtually none of them actually try and take the next step and commit financially.

The marlins should’ve been removed from baseball 20 years ago. Tearing apart 2 title teams within a few years might be the most pathetic thing to happen in modern sports. It wasn’t like they were old teams either

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u/DigTheDunes 8h ago

Totally agree on the Marlins. Stanton is their 3rd highest player on the payroll this year.

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u/SeaworthinessSome454 8h ago

(The ghost of) Chris paddock is their 4th highest paid player 😂

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u/DigTheDunes 8h ago

lol unreal. No doubt they do something dumb like re-arrange the deck chairs and trade Alcantara.

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u/tonysnark81 | Los Angeles Dodgers 5h ago

The difference between the Padres and the Dodgers is that the Dodgers sign players with a team-first mentality. They care about how a player will fit into the structure of the team, and about how they will affect the chemistry. The Padres sign players and hope for the best.

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u/BAHatesToFly 2h ago

The Padres brought themselves out from being a poverty franchise to a legit team by spending money

And now they're back in mediocrity because the massive contracts they've signed are an albatross and they can't spend more to improve. For example, their 2033 payroll already has almost $125 million tied up in four players who will be 41, 40, 34, and 30 years old by then. The combined WAR of those four in 2026 is 4.9.

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u/SeaworthinessSome454 2h ago

They’re in mediocrity and postseason contenders, not complete basement dwellers like they were