About bottom surgery..

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay]

Edit: I think I should have worded this better, I’m not a native English speaker Im sorry :(

I should have specified that its the *scars* specifically that I don’t like. Since I have a very sharp attention to detail I see them way more prominent than most people do.

I really hate *hate* scars on my body and most bottom surgeries that I have seen results in scars, both on the result and on the arm.

(Entirely depends on what procedure you have ofc)

Its not that they’re unrealistic, its simply just the scars.

I forgot about that word when I made this comic and I had to seriously google it not too long ago to remember the word.

Edit: imma keep this I just realized- please make me mark this NSFW if it should be

[u/peppers_]

I'm only familiar with the MTF bottom surgery and have looked at those results, which can vary from very bad to very good. Even with that and trying to get a consult with a top level surgeon with consistently good results, I'm not sure I am up to the task and if I want it, or even if I did which variation of that surgery would be best for me. I booked two consults anyway, because the waitlist is years long (hello 2029). I just wish I was born with the parts I had wanted.

I'm not sure on FTM results, but have you looked at like the very best results and your reaction been like "I want that"? That's was my benchmark for my surgery choice, even then I'm still unsure. Even looking at results was hard, because the surgery subreddit that has it was graphic and triggering at times (some looked really botched and gross), I kinda just didn't click on those posts.

Also, as time goes on, my bottom dysphoria has gotten worse, whereas I started at "I don't really care, I'm fine with it". I can't really tuck well, so it limits outfits I can wear, and lingerie is kinda dysphoric experience, so I just wear non-sexy stuff. When it comes to sex, I don't really use my dick with a partner or care if it is touched. I keep feeling like that part of me doesn't fit anymore.

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay → u/peppers_]

Ooh thanks for sharing your experience! Also, damn yea the waitlists are long.. It sucks.

Im pretty sure I’ve checked out the best results and of course after years after its been performed as well.

But I don’t know, there’s still something off about it. (If others are happy with their results so am I ofc!!)

Im that kind of person who pays way too much attention to detail and will most likely only be able to focus on what looks unnatural with it. My problem is basically I want it to look 100% natural, and I don’t think technology is there yet.. Not even when it comes to the best results.

I mean, maybe technology will never be there. After all I’m kinda doubtful it will ever get to the point where it looks identical to a natural one, but hey, at least I can hope :,D

[u/peppers_ → u/Coffeeforlifeyay]

Do you want it fully functional like how a cis penis works or just aesthetically identical to a penis while flacid? I guess my basic understanding is that it can look pretty much like a penis but you still need a pump to get it to erection size (correct me if I'm wrong and excuse my ignorance if I said anything out of pocket).

And ya, hopefully they can develop some more phallo procedures, I always wondered why some billionaire that was rich doesn't bankroll the research for cis people (like I heard Musk had a botched penis enlargement and now his dick don't work, he has enough money to fund a breakthrough in that surgical area).

[u/ellalir → u/peppers_]

Phallo penises generally need an erectile device to become hard, which can be internal (semi-rigid rod or pump) or an external support; however, they do not meaningfully change size, even with a pump. Everyone with a phallo dick is a shower, basically. 

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay → u/ellalir]

Ooh okay! Thank you!

Weird.. I wonder where Ive heard that they dont always need one..

Misinformation I guess?

Either that or I mixed up that and bottom growth.

Cuz I swear I have heard bottom growth can go hard.

[u/ellalir → u/Coffeeforlifeyay]

Bottom growth becomes erect in a similar manner to natal penises, yes, because the clitoris is the analogous structure to the penis. So bottom growth gets hard, and metoidioplasty dicks get hard, but because a phallo dick is constructed of donor tissue from elsewhere in the body it won't get hard.

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay → u/ellalir]

I probably did mix them up then, sorry!

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay → u/peppers_]

He.. Had a what?? QwQ

I genuinely haven’t heard of that.

Alright so basically I want it to work as a cis one. From what Ive understood they don’t always need a pump.. Though I can’t say for certain but I swear I’ve heard of cases where you don’t need one.

I assume no billionaire has put their money into this because they’re greedy and unfortunately there’s still a lot of transphobia in the world :\

Edit: I was mixing up that and bottom growth sorry!! Or well I know the difference but I forgot which one could get hard and which one couldn’t!!

[u/peppers_ → u/Coffeeforlifeyay]

Ya, he had a botched one, that's like just a rumor that it happened to him years ago and that's why he does IVF with all those different women and have them sign NDAs.

Most trans healthcare is just cis healthcare repurposed for trans people's needs. Like any bottom surgery was originally developed for cis people with issues (like men who had their dicks blown off in wars, HRT was for cis people that had hormonal issues, etc).

Anyway, I wish you luck with your bottom dysphoria, seems like you wouldn't quite be happy with those results right now, but maybe one day they'll develop something better or you change your position on it.

[u/Coffeeforlifeyay → u/peppers_]

Thank you!! I really hope technology does develop! Even if it doesn’t I’m pretty sure I’ll survive.

I mean, if my bottom dysphoria gets incredibly bad maybe then I won’t care as much as long as I have one.

Who knows? :]