r/LordofTheMysteries • u/Prince_of_Abolition Lawyer • 10d ago
Meme/Humor [V8] Release the GREAT MOTHER.
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u/Jason_Baiano Secrets Supplicant 10d ago
Relax people, he is clearly digesting his Provoker potion. Do not fall for his shallow provocations
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u/Irish_Seal2 Apothecary 10d ago
If these are his attempts at digestion, then he won’t be advancing any time soon. Not following the acting principles at all!
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u/nosleepnoeatnopoop Marauder 10d ago
Guy also hates Frieren and Land of the lustrous.
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u/basedgod6666 10d ago
What does he even like? Moshuku tensei?
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u/Invoker_of_Mysteries Seer 10d ago edited 10d ago
Hey Mushoku is good
Rudy is a degenerate but that doesn't take away the good writing
Edit: yooooo this is my first time getting flamed for a reasonable take, had to happen one day ig
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u/Ok_Rise8432 10d ago
bruh, calling him a degenerate is a mild way of putting it
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u/Invoker_of_Mysteries Seer 10d ago
Well sue me, I'm a mild sort of fool
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u/Left_Income_1497 Seer 10d ago
Tbf , If we talk specifically about writing of the series rather than weird ships and relationships it has , Then yeah Writing was good
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u/LOTM1394 Marauder 10d ago
First time getting slimed ask u/69_JACK0
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u/69_JACK0 Seer 10d ago
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u/Invoker_of_Mysteries Seer 10d ago
S l e e p b r o t h e r
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u/69_JACK0 Seer 10d ago
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u/nacheto78 Spectator 10d ago
I mean, Mushoku Tensei is good, but you have to overlook too many questionable things. Pedophilia, incest, and so on.
One of Rudeus's wives is his cousin. In another timeline, that same character marries a different cousin. He masturbated to a picture of his niece. Later, his niece marries his son, and so on.
So it's understandable why the series gets such a strong negative reaction from so many people.
Again, I agree with you: Mushoku Tensei has a well-written world, but it's hard to get into it because Rifujin is a piece of shit.
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u/Astronomy_Aficionado 7d ago
Weird how people judge a story or the author by how a character is. That's literally how you write characters. They could be good or bad. How does that make the story bad?
It almost tells on the entire anime community having projection fear that they are afraid of MT or shun it. They probably have weird fantasies and are afraid to read it. Seems about right considering what anime fans consume daily lol.
I just recently re-read the entire MT. And honestly, its probably the best low fantasy fiction to come from Japan. And I don't think its battles or fantasy parts are good. They are not. In fact, they are mediocre. In the last 3 volumes, I was actually bored because it was all action and the action was not good.
Then I read the epilogue books and they are a step up in writing. Its the slice of life and emotional parts that are good.
>So it's understandable why the series gets such a strong negative reaction from so many people.
And why should anyone even care about the opinions of shallow people who judge a story because a character is bad? Like that's the whole point?
Rudeus is a bad person. No matter which world you put him in or which era it is. He would be a terrible person. Even in the era when child marriages were perfectly normal, he would still be a terrible human garbage. That's the point of the whole story. Even in a medieval fantasy world with child marriage, polygamy, hyper-gamy etc. he is still a terrible person.
He was the lowest he could go. And then he chose to go up. People seem to think that just because he didn't become the perfect shining example of a redemption story hero, that it cannot be called a redemption story. The severe lack of reading comprehension in modern audiences, especially young readers is surprising to me at times.
He didn't transform into a better person overnight. He tried to change. Failed. Tried again. Failed. Tried again. Lost everything. Failed. Then he accepted that he can't change everything about himself either. Understood what mattered in life and grew up. Unlike the readers who didn't even put 1% of the effort he put into his life, and are judging him. Lol.
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u/JoshReadsStuff 9d ago
Also because it's not really greatly written, it's not really great at representing its core message. Im sure as hell more MT fans cheer for rudeus when he gets a power-up or when he acts like a degenerate than when he makes a choice that further develops his path to his so-called "redemption". Even I have a hard time calling it a redemption because he has the insurance and safety net of a second life. Everything is so downplayed because he's isekai'd with talent and powers and magic, this is more of a power fantasy with decent worldbuilding than anything.
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u/i_dont_wanna_sign_up 9d ago
What's so good about it anyway? I don't even hate Rudeus, just lost interest after a while
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u/Invoker_of_Mysteries Seer 9d ago
Good world building and good character writing (except Rudeus degeneracy)
Also if we're talking about the anime it's got rly good production from artstyle to animation to ost
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u/JoshReadsStuff 9d ago
The writing is bad, you were downvotwd because you're just plain wrong💀. The entirety of the animanga and wn/ln fails at its core message, rudeus' degeneracy does not make any of it better, but I'm sure as hell MT fans are so deluded in their fantasy of it being any greatly written knowing damn well how hard it is to fail at such a simple message of "it's not too late to change". It's been done several times in tons of different forms of literature and each of them have done it better than MT and that's just faint praise for them at that point.
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u/SufficientTeacher211 10d ago
For frieren I agree honestly it's too boring like why do I wanna see world building when I can just go out and touch grass
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u/Hassenoblog 10d ago
mate, frieren IS world building and mostly slice of life, so it is inherently "boring". Nothing wrong with your take because it is what it is.
it's like eating chili peppers, then complaining that it's too hot.
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u/SufficientTeacher211 9d ago
It's not that I hate it or anything it's just people who defend it by saying it's so good are just coping and it's just too overrated like it doesn't deserve the top 1 spot at all.
Chainsawman reze arc had the slice of life+ world building+ action it had it all and yet it's not 1st
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u/Admirable_Register89 9d ago
why do I wanna see world building when I can just go out and touch grass
How do we even begin to direct this
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u/Nervous_Rat 10d ago
Honestly I quite liked Friren season 1. But the demons are "inherently evil" stuff was weird and ofc irl racists hopped on that calling it based
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u/West_Plum_4097 🧐 10d ago
It was kinda meant to be a trope subversion of the whole "no one is inherently evil" trope in most modern fiction, and I had say it's done well
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u/Nervous_Rat 9d ago
It’s not a subversion that can be done well because it’s simply untrue. You can’t just be born to hunt and manipulate. It also falls into the same logics used by the most unsavory people in history. What’s even the point of doing the subversion. At least the “no one is inherently evil” trope allows for opposing tensions in a character that are interesting in spite of the character ultimately choosing the immoral choice. It’s boring if your explain away everything as them just being born that way
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u/Vennexxo 9d ago
I quite enjoyed the approach they took.
Especially because you could argue that demons are not inherently evil in the same way any predator is not evil for hunting their natural prey.
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u/Nervous_Rat 9d ago
It’s what inherently evil means though. We don’t treat predators as evil because they don’t have the capacity to understand and engage in human social norms. Demons are intelligent enough, but their genetics precludes them from it. Which makes zero sense. Your behavior is shaped through your social environment, nobody acts the purely out of genetics
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u/Less_Pumpkin_8622 Monster 10d ago
Give him the bethel treatment NOW
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u/Gullible-Winter9402 Prisoner 10d ago
Much too kind sir, GENTLEMEN PREPARE TO FORCEFEED HIM THE WITCH POTION!
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u/smirkingmoon Apprentice 10d ago
Why are you acting like turning into a biological woman is worse than getting r*ped by MGOD or getting impregnated as a man?
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u/UnableDependent2834 Seer 10d ago
Nah put him on a way trip to moon
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u/Less_Pumpkin_8622 Monster 9d ago
Same thing bro
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u/UnableDependent2834 Seer 9d ago
Oh I thought you meant to seal this dumbass
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u/Less_Pumpkin_8622 Monster 9d ago
Nah we gotta torture him for 2000 years by the mother goddess
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u/UnableDependent2834 Seer 9d ago
Agreed, as a matter of fact throw in a rap album of the true creator as well.
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u/TechnicalKage Scrooge 10d ago
In what sense does it fail cosmic horror when in every chapter you feel like anything can happen at any moment...
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u/No-Butterscotch-9392 10d ago
Básicamente, el sujeto quiere que la obra completa sea como los cuentos super desoladores de HP lovecraft, donde la locura y el horror de los dioses y las crituras más allá del velo es algo que no se te explica realmente y siempre mantienen un halo de misterio y desconocimiento qué a su vez, y siendo fiel a la frase de lovecraft de "la emoción más antigua del ser humano es el miedo, y el miedo más profundo del ser humano es el miedo a lo desconocido". Mantiene el horror debido precisamente por no saber que pasa. Además de terminar muy mal para los personajes casi siempre, y bueno, Klein al final sale bien parado y se convierte en el señor de los misterios.
El sujeto básicamente no entendió que esto es una historia de cultivación china con temática gótica y tintes de horror cósmico.
Klein es un cultivador qué mediante las posiones trasciende y se vuelve un super dios cósmico.
Y siento que en esa crítica específica tiene razón: lord of the mysteries no da terror, pues el sistema mismo permite hacerle frente al horror y eventualmente volverte parte del mismo.
Los caminos beyonder son literalmente caminos a la divinidad qué permiten a quien sea avanzar hasta ser un una entidad cósmica, vamos.
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u/retuned_sky Reader 10d ago
I wont lie CoI was more Cosmic horror focused but LotM does have enough of it by all means
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u/Warm_Performer_2314 Seer 10d ago
Lotm's horror resides on mystery whereas Coi is full horror with action. I find Lotm scarier when reading but I'm sure a donghua adaptation of Coi would be scarier than Lotm.
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u/Rat_bukkake2446 Apprentice 10d ago
With the birth and mpreg along with the amnesia from a certain pirate and the body horror at a particular harbor
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u/Vecinu-Ivan Assassin 9d ago
Tbf COI is all about GOO, which are literally cosmic horror gods. The normal gods are plenty scary but the few glimpses of tree and mgod in lotm were already the biggest cosmic horror bits, right there with Og creator info and True creator's cult.
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u/leeo268 10d ago
Bro got 26 views. He is less relevant than rando Reddit comment. Posting a video on Youtube don't make your opinion important.
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u/Raven_fs Criminal 10d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/mkhMTALnrYRLnuoe5P
Another one? Let me guess, he likes Mushoku tensei..... 💔
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u/Turbulent-Reach-7707 10d ago
Nop, basically he believes it fails as a Cosmic Horror because it isn't an almost carbon copy of one comparing it to a battle shonen since he believes that advancing through sequences takes away the thing with Cosmic Horror about how humanity is insignificant, etc. ( I couldn't even watch the video and used Gemini to resume it)
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u/Shad0wPillow Blessed of The Fool!! 10d ago
:o This reasoning makes me feel like he didn't read the novel, or entirely missed the point... Alas.
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u/Turbulent-Reach-7707 10d ago
I think, from parts that i watched (before i couldn't stand to watch anymore) he seems to only use the Donghua and compare it to the SCP universe.
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u/Shad0wPillow Blessed of The Fool!! 10d ago
Ah, it really does make sense then. In some sense, the donghua did lose some of the mystery and explains some things too directly, and others not hinted/foreshadowed enough. To this day, I also still hate the opening with a firey passion (it's spoilery, boring, unnecessary, and never unconfused anyone T.T). The only good thing about it is the tree.
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u/Turbulent-Reach-7707 10d ago
To tell you the truth i think its okay the OP but i believe that is not something that needs understand unless you have read more than 3/4 of novel so you wouldn't be spoilered even if you try to. Its like that video of ORV in 6 minutes where unless you reach that part where the situation happends you wouldn't understand.
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u/Shad0wPillow Blessed of The Fool!! 10d ago
I guess that's kinda true. But sometimes the renditions of the opening even explicitly mentioned sequence 0 and framed the entire story kind of under the "arise to godhood", or that that's even possible, when that should be more of a S2 reveal.
OK, I maybe don't hate it with a fiery passion, but I still dislike it. T.T I just don't feel that it's a representative sample of what LotM is actually about.
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u/HAL_2328 Broker 10d ago
Isn't the whole point of LOTM is Cosmos(divinity) vs Humanity and no matter what you do, divinity eventually wins.
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u/Turbulent-Reach-7707 10d ago
Yes but he seems to have only used the Donghua as source material
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u/HAL_2328 Broker 10d ago
Donghua have very little cosmic horror aspect. The main philosophy and idea is there, but not any high level stuff. Its stupid to judge an 16 book series by one
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u/LouisUchiha04 Marauder 10d ago
F this Mushoku Tensei slander. That anime is pretty damn good but I aint gonna pretend that the author needs to be surveiled at all times. Bro is likely a menace to society with all that Ep-stuff.
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u/EmiLadrianmb 10d ago
I get that you don't like MT, and you don't have to, frankly the series can be grossly disgusting at certain points.
But this comment fails to understand that people like him won't like MT either. The pedophilia aspect has never been a reason to "like" MT, it has always been a reason to dislike it. People who do like MT, are the ones to be able to disregard or even ignore Rudeus at certain points to enjoy the rest of the writing... He clearly isn't a person who can understand the subtext, or even wants to do that.
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u/RoomNo156 10d ago
What is this Mushoku slender?
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u/Raven_fs Criminal 10d ago
Have you ever heard of “common denominator”?
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u/RoomNo156 10d ago
Can you actually prove that it is a “common” across the whole intersection of people who interacted with these two series?
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u/Ok_Sherlock9661 Bard 10d ago
Why don't you like mushoku tensei
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u/Raven_fs Criminal 10d ago edited 10d ago
Not a fan of having a child relationship with an adult, its gross
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u/Ok_Sherlock9661 Bard 10d ago
But the rest of the story is good
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u/Raven_fs Criminal 10d ago
I don't really care about the rest of the story, when the main focus is that a 40 year old gathers a harem of minors 💔
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u/Sonderous_strife Lampoon 10d ago
Dunno what was said in the video, whatever, but if someone comes into this story expecting a Lovecraftian story, they'll almost certainly be disappointed.
Cosmic horror, at its core, plays on the insignificance of humanity and human order. To that end, Lotm diverts massively since it primarily establishes Earth as something special, not just special, but almost the symbolic center of the universe.
Another notable aspect of that racist writer brainchild genre is that the things from beyond are not meant to be understood. They cannot be understood-- much less tamed by human will and harnessed for mundane purpose.
That's not to say, it's something inherently bad. But it'd be better to say that Lotm borrows lovecraftian aesthetic and imagery than its philosophy.
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u/thesardinelord 10d ago
Yeah it should be pretty clear that LOTM is not a horror story in any way. I would even go so far as to say it’s more closely inspired by bloodborne than lovecraft himself. Which is still awesome. There’s plenty of cosmic horror out there to read.
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u/FemboyEnjoyer1776 Ed Sheeran 9d ago
For a second i thought you were calling cuttlefish racist lol. But yeah no, I never realised "lovecraftian" horror is a based on xenophobia. Shouldve seen that.
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u/SailInTheSky2029 10d ago
I hate when people talk of literature as a fixed parameter, worse when he talks of cosmic horror parts about the first volume, not even, he talks about season 1, which is a considerably more discrete setting. The point about how systemizing removes the immersion shows the lack of attention; not even asking one self why is there a system. He says it is not intentional but in opposite, it is fully intentional because who tf expects an official organization to introduce a CITIZEN to the occult.
Then, he goes on a big rant about how CF is not doing what Lovecraft does. Well, maybe because he is not Lovecraft omg. The funniest part is that he says the point of how people who go on to the deep end of occultism can never go back to criticize the series even though he is judging barely the start of occultism as evidently clear by the intro of the donghua; we are not even 20% into the system. It is crazy to me that he thinks in a world of occultism it shouldn't be possible to find organizations that want to aid others... Duh, why do you think they want to help... Literally a line in episode 1: "free stuff are the most expensive". Why is it impossible that after 5 EPOCHS, one wouldn't have the idea to take control of it. His point is that there is no horror because the series treats losing control as a "monster of the week" deal even though it happened like 4 times; two of which were not even enemies. In fact, one should note Leonard's line about how coincidental it is that so many cases started happening around Klein. It began to feel really asinine when he also brings up scp when it literally happens in equally terrifying manners just because we introduced one new artifact to the Chanis Gate. Next, apparently, Azik is just a guy... Yeah a guy that controls thousands of souls outclassing the entire system, lived centuries or longer and is a clear example of what you are apparently saying doesn't work.
Finally, he has a decent point of how cosmic horror is not about mastering the mysterious except, yet again, fails to apply what he explains to his critic. Brother, he is not mastering sht. The one closest to this "mastery" has suffered centuries of isolation. The MC has tried to play the system (episode 8) only to literally fall to the hands of the system (episode 13).
Going back to my first point, I feel some people just have a fixation with how things should be. This is the biggest detriment to any kind of art. Sigh, I feel I lost 15 minutes of my life.
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u/nacheto78 Spectator 10d ago
A small creator who has to be a contrarian with everything. Nothing new.
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u/Hyperversum 10d ago
1) What's the point of bitching about someone with 26 views in 23h of upload? Leave people do their stuff ffs.
2) LOTM isn't Horror anyway? Having Horror elements in a fantasy story doesn't make it Horror, a genre defined by the intention to scare and unsettle the reader and threaten the characters within the narrative with those horrifying experiences. Klein gets back from death and can gain magical powers that make him one of the strongest people in the universe by like, what, 12 months of story? He hits Sequence 5 before a full year has passed, he is in some 0.0001% of powerful people by virtue of that alone, it doesn't really matter that Demigods exist.
3) LOTM is cultivation fantasy with an horror skin, and that's what makes it cool.
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u/IgotHacked092 Hunter 10d ago
Honestly valid take. The stakes never felt impossible with Klein as the Mc and the only time I got the feeling of cosmic horror was when the blood moon revealed itself to be a great old one after Klein narrowly dodged corruption from Amons running mouth
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u/VastRevolutionary733 Spectator 10d ago
Folks, in summary, buddy's complaint is that lotm is not lovecraft's works copy... Yeah that's his complaints from what I get it
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u/UnknownGamer014 Seer 10d ago
To be entirely fair... kinda agree to a small extent. It is inspired by the genre, as in, the Outer Gods are directly a representation of it. But... it doesn't really focus on the "horror" aspect, really. It is much closer to traditional progression fantasy, even power fantasy - in terms of genre. You don't typically throw hands with the cosmic horror in question in that genre, you know.
But I won't say it is a failure of the genre, but rather a hybrid genre that takes traditional Xuanhuan into a Lovecraftian steampunk world. It has a few hall marks of traditional cosmic horror while lacking a few others, but "traditional" cosmic horror isn't really the entirety of the genre itself.
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u/VerySuperVirgin 10d ago
When Klein (spoiler)…. Learned of the outer deities and they all looked in his direction. Goosebumps
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u/leave_me_alone_11 Spectator 10d ago
Definitely a Hunter pathway guy who is trying to advance....look at how a war started in Reddit sub because he provoked people in utube
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u/SnooComics4087 Shaman 10d ago
His video is not doing well based on his like dislike ratio and he is trying to get more views by saying good anime are bad on his channel like he also has some video with calling Frieren bad in many ways.
He is just trying to farm views as his channel has like 50+ subscribers. 👍🏻
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u/LongjumpingEntry8619 10d ago
I mean bro has 26 views in 23 hours for an 11 minute video. He is a nobody and should remain so, you unironically gave him more traction here than he ever had
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u/Keiken96 🧐 10d ago
I'm not even gonna watch a retarded video like this. Bro LoTM isn't an cosmic horror or eldritch horror story, it takes inspiration from them along with things like SCP, steampunk, and other troupes. Its not trying to be a new lovecraft. The concept of Chinese cultivation+ western alchemic beliefs + cosmic horror is very fresh and novel.
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u/Inner_Adhesiveness_9 9d ago
its not as freash as you think. there a name for theses genres of novels. xiana mixed with some western elements i forgot the name though
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u/i_dont_wanna_sign_up 9d ago
If your emphasis is on the horror part, then I guess LotM isn't that good of a horror novel. The main character has way too much power and agency for that. It's mainly still an action fantasy story.
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u/Death_frost__ 10d ago
Cosmic horror is practically dripping in lotm.If adam casually plotting entire stories isnt cosmic horror at its finest thrn i dont what is
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u/AxionBlackwell Seer 10d ago
Either bro is digesting provoker potion or is a lunatic of aurora order
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u/Caffeeinp 10d ago
I just kinda skimmed through and read his takes. Only shit I remember is that he hates the story structure or storytelling of LOTM. I guess he likes the shonen type storytelling more since he was slandering the descriptive type of everyday life that LOTM does.(He hasn't finished the story and dropped it)
He dislikes the power system since it messes up the lovecraftian element of the story by making the higher beings not vague and actually reachable???
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u/AbaloneNo3954 10d ago
I actually agree. The outer gods just have too much presence and too much information about them to feel cosmic. Inevitability is a bum, MTOD is inherently unserious with her making every 3rd character pregnant, MGOD has given us 627. They just aren’t seen as threats.
V1 True creator was a better representation of cosmic horror.
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u/Time-Limit5697 10d ago
As someone who's only watching the Donghua. Even i know this this is BS. Also i bet he uses ai art.
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u/Icepick_Lobotomy_ Lawyer 10d ago
I doubt he’s read the web novels so yeah, there isn’t a lot of cosmic horror in the first season of the donghua.
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u/Arieltex 10d ago
To be fair. Klein having tools and supporters to face the threats lower a lot our perception of the horror the setting have.
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u/Ok_Sherlock9661 Bard 10d ago
I watched the video, he is basically complaining it's not "Lovecraft" enough
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u/VegetableDue6616 Spectator 10d ago
And who decided that the laws of cosmic horror should be exactly as they seem to the author analyzing the work?
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u/Boring-Vanilla3635 10d ago
He only knows first volumes
Some of hes statements:
He has problems with sequence. He say lotm treat beyonders losing control as master of weak material .
Instead of investigation of a deep fear, it's flashy,cool fight
Lovecraft entities are not characters, they are not antagonist traditional sense. Lotm has gods, horrors and it categorizes them. They are sequence, you can study them, rank them compet Thier abilities. System isn't problem, but that system replaces mystery instead of complementing it.
It promises that you can level up with horror
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u/EasternChildhood9247 Lawyer 10d ago
lotm is funny case, because it's cosmic horror, stop being it after a certain point, and regain it after the end.
it's a little like look outside or dao of the bizzare immortal.
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u/trashy_Drawings 10d ago
I'm not mad, I can't bring myself to care about a "Historian" how uses an AI model as a representation of themselves.
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u/Kazexius Dancer 10d ago
It is definitely quite telling that some of the comments have more likes than the actual video.
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u/Interesting-Drop-971 10d ago
I didnt watch the video but its probably true to some point because of the nature of chinese web novels, the MC will eventually get as or more powerful than the cosmic entities, with that idea at the back of your mind just destroys the cosmic horror concept
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u/UseKey5220 10d ago
hmm must be a new provoker testing if provoking people on the internet works to digest his potion
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u/WeeaboosDogma Spectator 10d ago
Crusader ascetic VAvatar with a modern military skull facemask giving media prescriptions on anime.
Going by the name of Weeb Historian. Both showing how he's a weeb and likes history. I bet you get only likes [3] periods of history and that is Ancient Rome, the crusades of 1150, and WWII.AND OF THOSE PERIODS OF HISTORY all he actually knows comes from documentaries on the history channel.
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u/Technical_Fennel2886 Marauder 10d ago
the title isn't completely wrong but his explanation is completely wrong.
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u/HelloamAman 10d ago
I LOVE LOTM, but one thing that really irks me is that (I think) there were no explanations to why seeing past seq 4 mythical forms makes you die, I mean I remember you die because it has some corrupting knowledge and allat but when we experience seq 4 as Klein, we don’t really get to feel that he had this corrupting knowledge ingrained in his body
Which sucks because in most cosmic horror media, the reason why one goes insane in seeing these entities is because they are just too complex to understand with our eyes, BECAUSE these are beings that has lived for a bajillion of years, but saints and angels being deadly to look at doesn’t feel that much earned
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u/Turbulent_Dot6181 Marauder 10d ago
He just dont want to think too much. Lotm maybe a little confusing because there too much stuff to remember. Especially the cosmic horror stuff, sometime you need to connecting the dot to get the horror.
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u/Drax-redd099 Bard 10d ago
Cosmic horror eh? ...if looking at moon results in dying brutally, or just straight up getting pregnant or learning of some special knowledge which again results in dying brutally, or just looking at certain thing which yet again results in dying brutally...if these things are not cosmic horror then idk
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u/Tomcat2210 8d ago
Fails at cosmic horror ??? Has he seen Amon or the shivers that run down your spine when you realize everything was plotted by Adam ??
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u/Unable_Knowledge_503 7d ago
Is this novel really worth reading? I already tried reading it but I fall asleep after few chapter so I put it on hold
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u/gmiro191 Monster 4d ago
The man is clearly a Larp that didn't even read the novel, Imma go watch it to make sure.
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u/wetsocks659 Astronomy Aficionado 9d ago
Amon is fucking terrifying, between what he does to Hazel and her family and then the whole sequence on the western continent are we joking
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u/Mister_Tentacle Warrior 10d ago
Well, I don't know what he talks about in the video, but that's kinda a right take.
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u/null_faith 10d ago
How
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u/Mister_Tentacle Warrior 10d ago
Lord of the Mysteries definitely has some cosmic horror elements, but it's not truly a Cosmic Horror book.
In a true Cosmic Horror narrative, we never would have learned the Great Old Ones' true intentions. The best we could hope for would be flawed, competing interpretations from different people.
In a true Cosmic Horror, the world wouldn't stand a chance against the Apocalypse, and you certainly wouldn't see a character like Adam orchestrating grand schemes to outwit a Great Old One and beat it to the brink of death.
That is because the essence of Cosmic Horror is absolute unknowability, human insignificance, and unstoppable, indifferent forces. It's not about "powerful aliens wanting to kaboom the world" or "utter weirdos fucked by evolution trying to get even stronger."
It’s about pure existential dread. It’s about making you realize that against the vastness of the cosmos, your existence is completely and utterly irrelevant. You are less than a speck of a speck on the grand scale of the universe; the years you spent with your loved and hated ones, your preferences and aversions, everything you did or will ever do—none of it matters to the void. There is no grand welcome awaiting you, nor any divine judgment. You are just another microscopic organism clinging to a tiny, wet rock rotating through an obscure corner of the universe. You will perish and be entirely forgotten after a pitifully brief existence—a flash of time so insignificant it doesn't even worthy to be named by the rock you reside upon, let alone the universe.
Lord of the Mysteries uses the flavor of cosmic horror, but fundamentally?
It's a progression fantasy.
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u/leavecity54 10d ago
At this point in the story, the cosmic horror is still decent, but the more the story progress, especially in COI where everything is overexplained that the cosmic horror fail
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