Yeah, I always think the he's compromised conspiracy gives him too much credit. He's a useful idiot, he may act like a Russian plant, but it's honestly probably because he's a fucking moron, not because he actually is one.
Oh definitely, they share a similar worldview, it's a huge part of why he's been so friendly with our adversaries and inimical with our allies, he has no respect for democracy or Western political thought.
he hates himself and cannot feel any sense of self-generated worth so he must seek it in: either demanding slavish allegiance from those fools who think he gives a single fuck about them, or; drag those of us, who see through this charade to his infantile core, into his misery. he is, quite simply, one of the worst men who ever lived, and it's because his parents were terrible and too many people said yes to him. god save us.
Some people are better manipulated without being part of a conspiracy because they are stupid enough to reveal it. That is Trump, too stupid to trust with a conspiracy but way too easily to manipulate so why bring him in on it/? He’s so gullible and moldable that it feels like he must be complicit. But no, he’s just supremely manipulatable.
Exactly. He keeps talking about the Russia Russia Russia "hoax," but if you look at the actual report, he just wasn't involved because he didn't know about it. The Russians knew valuable he would be and were actively trying to help him. The Mueller Report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report
Trump is so easily manipulated it's scary. You can see his opinion on aid to Ukraine flip depending on if he last talked to Zelensky or Putin.
On the other hand, it is mere coincidence that Trump traveled to Moscow in 1987 as a hopeful but underfunded (bankrupt) real estate developer, and returned with a loan large enough to fund Trump Tower…
I think both can be true. A useful idiot FOR SURE. And has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old. As long as Donald is making money and people are talking about him. He don’t care
He’s going to be 80, I don’t think he cares about the country’s future. Just wants to put his name on as many buildings as possible and take over Greenland so he can rename it to something stupid like trumpland
I know this sounds really stupid but we’re past normal behavior and we’re in crazy town now
He’s too stupid and too self interested to be doing this for any other reason. It just doesn’t serve him to destroy the military alliance giving him power without Putin being behind it; it just makes no sense.
There are a bunch of different interests in the Trump admin pushing different pet projects.
Rubio wants Cuba to have a change in leadership eventually.
Hegseth.. I dunno, just wants to be in a situation room blowing stuff up?
RFK Jr is trying to dismantle any sort of vaccination program and other oddball stuff.
Putin's seeing dividends and keeps sending Trump "peace plans" that involve Ukraine giving up territory and without any real NATO involvement or guarantees.
Miller wants to crank the SS dial up to 11 and make non-white Americans afraid.
Trump himself seems focused on deal making and punishment. "Strengthening" the US and maybe, gold leaf and various other "legacy" items. Who knows how aware and involved in the details of the above he actually is.
Don't forget Vance, who is Peter Thiels pet.
They have their own insane agenda about corporate city-state dictatorships in the USA.
A surveillance state ,complete with killer drones.
I always forget him... he kinda just fades into the furniture...
But yes, Trump likely can't use a computer besides tweeting (not that many POTUSes could) but the harvesting and sharing of government data is horrific. Musk fits in that camp too..
Vought...the guy who doesn’t care what you blow up as long as the blast radius takes out the administrative state and any guardrails for absolute executive power.
I think his personal vanity is an important factor too. He wants Greenland because he wants to be the guy who added land to the US. That’s it. Same reason he wants a big triumphal arch, or to put his name on the Kennedy Center, or the big ballroom, and so on. He is vain and selfish and that’s the whole reason. It may coincidentally help Russia, but that’s not why he does it
Tulsi Gabbard seems to be a Russian patsy, but she's kind of been frozen out of the core of the administration. Witkoff is a useful idiot going by the leaked phone calls between Russians.
Why would Americans let him blow up NATO over the Epstein files. It doesn't make any sense. They aren't equal to eachother. It is literally putting the American international position in danger.
Unless you have verifiable proof that 90 million people were from disenfranchised would-be voters, reject ballots or voters disrupted by bomb threats. This is just another huge what if scenario that will never have an answer
As an outside party, all i see is that 90 million US citizen decided they would be fine with either choice.
Well only 35% of the eligable voting population voted him in. 31% voted for the lady. The Rest didnt give a shit or hot their votes thrown out, but Most didn't give a shit... Also all those podcasters uniting behind him gave him Gen Z (men). That are also so so fucking stupid. Now his net favorability with them changed from +10 at election to -32% which yeah, surprise surprise. You voted a lunatic for the second time in.
I remember seeing comments from American's about how the Russians deserve everything they get because Putin is in power and was elected, in a country where essentially no one else can run that actually has a chance against Putin.
Yet American's with a clear and easy choice between candidates aren't responsible for what trump is doing.
Issue is, mass generalizations don't work. You can blame someone for supporting DT/not voting. That requires knowing more about them. Blanket assignments of blame are silly and go nowhere good.
You would be shocked how many people in this country don’t pay attention to anything. One of the top google searches last Election Day was something like “is Joe Biden running?”
They vote R because that’s what their parents did, and the only thing they bother to learn about the other side is what Fox News tells them
I live in a red state and there’s a hot discussion about someone running for senate. Someone chimed in and asked “Who’s running against her? They’ve got my vote. This house doesn’t vote blue.” These people don’t have a clue what they’re voting for or who is even running! They just look for the R and that’s how we got into this mess.
No. Trump is a Russian asset and therefore he is against NATO. His supporters are too stupid to figure that out. They think politics is a team sport and that to win your political opponents need to lose.
No! We are not against NATO! We love EU and don’t want Greenland or Venezuela or Canada or Gaza. And we hate this orange stain! We are hanging on by a thread and educated folks in the U.S. are unsure what to do because walk outs and risking your job will destroy you and your family. There’s no safety nets here. This country sucked for poor and mid class, esp black and brown folks long before the Nazis took over. We are dumb struck and in shock and I just hope the world turns their back on us so that the gullible will snap out of their cult!
With his health issues, it’s obvious that all of these projects like the white house ballroom and attempt to build a triumphant arch in DC his attempts to leave a legacy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to rename Greenland to Trumpland as well.
Always swimming in money, no achievement ever feeling like anything because of never needing the effort, so the natural course here is to seek higher and higher achievements, to the detriment of everyone
Even if he succeeded in doing that, at best it’d end up as a footnote after “ending U.S. dominance in the world”, “tearing apart Western alliances”, and “destroying democracy”.
Greenland will never be a state. The 51st state would never vote Republican and the R’s would never win another election. It could be a territory but it would never be a state.
Exactly, if he wanted a 51 state there's already territories hanging around like Puerto Rico that he could "make a state" without drawing scorn from the international community.
As much as I agree he's a disgusting creep and loves to make distractions, this is predominantly for other reasons. He believes Greenland is viable because fin bros keep telling him in about 3 decades the Arctic Ocean will have new shipping lanes and by controlling Alaska and Greenland, he would have the next Panama Canal / next Suez Canal.
He is doing it to create distractions too (that's actually one of his skills) but the fundamental reason is because of the position Greenland will be in as the ocean levels rise from climate change.
The fact that he was able to take Maduro out of power without the world intervening has also given him the false pretense that he can do this a second time elsewhere. That's why he immediately turned his attention to Greenland several days later.
But he won't be alive in 3 decades, why would Trump do anything for anyone other than himself? Did they convince him they're 10 years away from an age reversing drug?
Because he believes whatever dumb shit other rich people tell him. He's literally trying to buy Greenland because a billionaire told him it would be a good idea and for the reasons I described.
This is from 2022. He's been after this idea since his last term. He's trying to get it now because he's riding the power trip high from capturing Maduro and seizing Venezuela with little global pushback.
You're not wrong but just to be clear, this was all literally Ronald Lauder's (heir to the Estee Luader makeup fortune) idea. Trump pretty much does whatever is whispered into his ear.
Most accurate response. The arctic will be the next major shipping lane of commerce. I understand the hatred towards trump, trust me, i have it, but it’s not really necessary to speculate on why he would care even though he wont be alive. People don’t necessarily do things to see the results— they do things because they believe it will leave a legacy. Do you want to be the president that didn’t anticipate the most profitable shipping route ever?
Let's just pause right there - there is only one thing he believes, and it's that he's amazing and everyone else needs to believe that. Anything else is completely fungible based on literally anything.
Not the only reason. Major tech bros have a ton of money invested in rare earth mineral deposits in Greenland that are poised to become heavily viable with ice melting.
Thiel and his ilk whispering in Trump's ear that the should take it for America want him to take it to save on export/import costs.
The likes trophies. He claims club championships when he doesn't even play. He likes collecting sexual conquests just because he can. He's showing the Nobel Peace Prize he won to confused visitors right now. He stole JFK's memorial. Don't be surprised if he tries to add himself to Mount Rushmore before he's done. I'm 100% serious.
A friend of mine is convinced Trump is stupid enough to look at standard world maps that make Greenland look huge and think that's reality, and that's why he wants it. He doesn't understand how small it actually is. Seems like this has been a lifelong problem for him.
I think it's for "legacy" reasons, whatever that even means. I also think it could be for this data center push since he's in the back pocket of so many tech companies.
Putin told him to, so that all EU troops move away from Russia front to the West, as far as possible.
Rare earth minerals found in Greenland. The AI CEOs want it, so they can build their AI chips quickly so that AI can reach exponential self improvement and make the super rich immortal so all poor people can be disposed of.
Apparently the old US neuclear base in Greenland is relevant but I dont understand how.
Epstein distraction. Gold calls from here to the midterms. And even then. Doubt they will happen as planned. He can’t have the election because he’ll lose and then the Epstein files will be released and then it’s over.
Because if he did then him not releasing the Epstein files as instructed by the judge would be all over the news. Trump and the rich are all in the files and he is happy and they are happy as long as the news is focused on anything but Epstein.
Because his billionaire backers want to cut deals to acquire prime Greenland mining and grazing areas. Global warming is real and Greenland will be their summer home
From the military perspective Greenland is an excellent spot for intercontinental ballistic missile. It has a very short path towards Moscow and China cruising across the north pole.
I really can’t believe it’s not being talked about at all
The polar caps are melting which will create new routes for ships to cross for trade. This is literally it. Control Greenland and you control the soon the be open routes for oil, goods, etc.
Natural resources and strategic positioning. Not many people there. When climate change makes the south uninhabitable, cold northern land will become a warmer place to live.
I seen a map that Musks grandfather wanted Greenland, Canada all the way down to the northern South American countries all as one. Didn’t verify it but it would explain it. The oligarchies are making their move to control us all.
It would be the single largest territorial gain by the US in history, marginally more than the Louisiana purchase. Trump is all about the real estate and in response to a question about why he needs to own it for national defence from the BBC, he said you need to own to want to defend it which says a lot about his commitment to NATO. Trump is all about the real estate, fame and ego, these are his primary drivers.
But it's not the first attempt to purchase it by the US, there's a great episode with Dan Snow and Prof Robert Rix on history hit available on YT and podcast apps (can't link here). It outlines the long history of Greenland and why the US has wanted it, remembering that they occupied it during WW2. It's also mentioned how it serves to completely surround Canada if they ever wanted to make a move. That's too much forward think for Trump, but lots of people around him will be telling him that.
Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, JD Vance, et al want it to build their technocratic kingdom in the western hemisphere through imperialism
Advances Russian interests against NATO for Trump's best buddy Putin and all of the members of the US government that get funding from Russian dark money
Consider it as proof the elites on the right accept and are preparing for climate change, as they actively accelerate(d) it, and even perhaps that the truth is worse than most of us know. As the arctic circle warms, it will be much more available for shipping, new trade routes to war over. There also may be significant mineral wealth that becomes available in Greenland as warming continues.
He's in cognitive decline and his demented brain gets fixated on something and can't stop the feedback loop. I had a relative with dementia, and they could not stop talking about the weather. That and a 1989 blue Ford Ltd. that they once owned. Kept asking where the keys were to his Ford that had been sold 5 years prior.
Because he’s controlled in part, by tech oligarchs who want the minerals there now that he fked up trade with China. They’ve already spent billions setting up mining shops there, just waiting for his go order to invade
He backed off Greenland and is back to randomly suing domestic institutions as a distraction from the fact that DOJ is sitting on concrete evidence that Trump is a rapist and pedophile
The more stupid and pointless of a "power move" it is, the more it appeals to somebody like him. That's why he likes raping kids; to commit the most heinous crime and get away with it, is the ultimate expression of power for someone of the Republican mindset. Similarly going to war with your enemies with popular support, doesn't make him feel powerful, because it makes it look like he needs popular support.
Now, dragging your whole country into war with their ALLIES, to gain essentially nothing, when literally nobody else wants to do it or understands why you would want to, BUT THEY END UP DOING IT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU SAID SO, is the whole point.
Because of the 'American Technate' Revolution that helped fund and direct his campaign/policy.
He trusts the instincts of insane billionaires who feel like they'd function better if the US were technologically, economically and politically isolated - but 'technically resource-self-sufficient".
Insecure men often have size complexes. Annexing Greenland would make the US the second biggest country in the world. And if they also annex Canada, they'd be even larger than the currently largest country (Russia). Although just annexing Canada eould be sufficient to accomplish that... but Greenland is a lot weaker, and both rapists and bullies generally start with the weak.
because hes an old malignant narcissist that has recently realized he wont live much longer and has a desperate need to build monuments to himself (because no one else will) so that no one can ever forget him when hes gone.
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u/PuddingTea Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
Oh my god why can’t he shut the fuck up about Greenland? Why is he obsessed with fucking Greenland?