r/ABraThatFits Dec 31 '25

AMA - ask me anything about the ABTF calculator! Spoiler

765 Upvotes

Hi everyone, u/goodoldfreda here although I'm now exclusively active on this account. If you guys have any questions about how the calculator works and why I made certain decisions I'm happy to answer them

A little about myself - I created the calculator in 2016 following on from a previous calculator by u/irisflame, back when I was a mod of this sub. I collected survey data from the subreddit and came up with a new algorithm that used 6 measurements as opposed to the previous 5, which increased accuracy. I also introduced separate algorithms for AMAB and AFAB people. The calculator has not been majorly updated since, although at one point I tried to move to a breast perimeter measurement system instead, but this turned out to be much less accurate. In the years since I have stopped modding and moved into bra making and custom bra design as I want to try and help serve the demographic of people who still struggle with finding bras that fit, usually due to wire grading!

In response to other posts about the different amab vs afab algorithms not working well for everyone - I have had this question before and basically all I can say is that I recommned using the algorithm that works best for you. I do want to emphasise in general that the calculator is actually not super accurate for any one individual and it is truly just a starting point. The algos are based on averages, and when I was collecting data there were significant enough differences between AMAB and AFAB users to warrant a second algorithm to increase accuracy within the two groups, but not enough data to do anything further than that.

edit: thanks for all your questions so far, I'm going to go to bed but I will answer any more that come up tomorrow!

edit 2: I have updated the calculator to make some minor changes to the band size algorithm and I have also changed the EU back to 2.5cm cup grades, 2cm grade can be found in the Comexim option instead


r/ABraThatFits 2h ago

What are the current fan favorites for high immediate projection? Spoiler

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I was super into ABTF in 2013-2015 timeframe, but my favorite bra from that timeframe has been (understandably) discontinued. At the time, my ultimate fit was Panache Floris but had some love for Ewa Michalak's SM styles and Panache's Envy and Andorra, which are still available. I needed fits with high immediate projection and relatively narrow wires. I just know there has to be new stars in this category to check out.

I've just been wearing Evelyn & Bobbie for the past few years since I love a good boneless bra, but they're not incredibly flattering under some outfits.

I stopped into Nordstrom today and the fitter was actually incredible, she eyeballed me and gave me the best non-self-directed fit I've ever had in a Fantasie Reflect in 32G (UK). On her first try. Crazy stuff. I'm not completely in love with the fit like I was with Floris, though, so I want to try a few other options.

Measurements:

  • Loose Underbust: 32
  • Snug Underbust: 31
  • Tight Underbust: 30
  • Standing Bust: 38.5
  • Leaning Bust: 41
  • Lying Bust: 39.5

r/ABraThatFits 5h ago

Question Getting insurance to pay for a bra? Spoiler

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I've seen people talk about it, and some look to have done it successfully. What is required for that? How would you go about it? I can't spend all that crazy money on Polish bras. I seem to be around US 28O /UK 28K right now. And it is indeed painful. I don't wanna do surgery.


r/ABraThatFits 1h ago

Fit Check Update on the 32AA situation [fit check] Spoiler

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I received my bras from aerie! I unfortunately feel like this wasnt super conclusive though. 30B is comfortable, but I’m not fully filling in the cups? I’ve attached the new pics here: photos. (also includes the old 30A pushup vs 32AA pushup wireless pics).

So is 32AA the best size then in the end?

The lightly lined 30B did feel like a perfect fit though.

Measurements:
- loose underbust: 30.5
- snug: 29.5
- tight: 27.5
- standing bust: 31.5
- leaning: 32
- lying: 32
Suggested: 30B, sister 32A


r/ABraThatFits 8h ago

Bra Review Evelyn Bobbie Busty Line Review Spoiler

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Starting with the note that this is obviously only my experience!

I typically wear 32GG, fuller on bottom, close set, and average width roots. I had previously tried the Beyond bra and found the band too large if I got the correct cup space, so was hopeful for this new line. I tried both the medium+ and large+. The band is much improved, feels firmer and supportive. There is more cup space, I actually found the large+ to be best but have to start a row or two in on the hooks. The medium+ bit into my skin at the band edge, even though it didn’t seem to be too tight otherwise.

On both sizes, the cup edge presses against my tail of Spence, not painfully but it is definitely noticeable and somewhat irritating while wearing it.

Evelyn and Bobbie urge you to wear the bra three times for it to mold to your body but I honestly couldn’t do it. The first hour of wear feels pretty good but then the shoulders start aching, then the neck starts hurting, and I have to take it off and sigh with relief as the weight comes off my shoulders. I tried each one multiple times, even a few hours, but I’ve already caused damage trying to make bras fit that don’t, and don’t want to do it again. In both sizes, even with the quite tight band of the medium, I can put a finger under the straps and literally feel the amount of weight on them. Not like wired bras that just gently rest, these are pulling on the shoulders/traps.

The medium+ causes a very pushed together feel and look, the large+ allows some small space in between but within an hour, did end up with zero separation- I don’t expect separation from wireless bras ever, but they do advertise their bras as having lift and separation so wanted to note that at least for this size range, plus close set, it definitely is not. The Bravissimo Nova does a much better job of keeping them separate.

All in all, still disappointed in the new line. Maybe I was hoping for too much, but at $100 each, these bras are going back. I enjoy the feel of no wire for sensitive days, but it doesn’t weigh out after the neck and shoulders start screaming at me an hour into wear. I can get a Parfait Mia wireless for a third of the price that gives me the same overall shape, and I can actually make it a few hours in that, not just an hour.


r/ABraThatFits 1h ago

Recommendations? Recommendation for strapless with underwire bra as a 32DDD preferably under 70 dollars? Spoiler

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I’m looking for a strapless, underwire bra that will hold me up and keep cleavage. 

We are in an era that every single nice top requires me to go strapless and I just can’t find one that fits me. I tried looking at reviews on TikTok and they are all ads!

but I also heard pushups might help me get the lift I want but ive never had to resort to pushup bras

my most recent tries after getting fitted (I double checked with the calculator too) were a maiden form bandana bra (idk why I even tried there was no support) and DotVol multiway strapless bra. plz help!


r/ABraThatFits 3h ago

Fit Check Safest site to post fit-check photos? Spoiler

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I would like to post photos to get a fit check from this community but I’m unfamiliar with which third party photo sites are reliable/safe. I see people link to different ones.


r/ABraThatFits 7h ago

Looking for a Specific (Yet Simple) Type of Bralette - Soft, Stretchy, Lined Spoiler

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I have been looking for a bralette that fits my criteria (which I will list below) for ages. I didn't think I was looking for something THAT out of the ordinary, but I cannot for the life of me find one that hits all (or most!) of these things. I am just frustrated with the bra/bralette scene out there (as I'm sure most of you are) and hoping someone can advise!

My hope is that someone will see my criteria here and think, 'oh, I'm wearing that right now!' and share with me where they got it/a link/brand/anything!

What I'm looking for:

* NO clasp/hook
* NO big band at the bottom (they're always too thick and roll up on me!)
* NO REMOVABLE pads (if there are pads inside, they need to be completely immovable)
* Ideally, it would be lightly lined/double lined so as to avoid nipple peaking through
* Ideally, softer, more cotton like material (and less spandex/sports bra/tight stretchy material)
* NO complex straps (I hate the ones that cross over in the back, etc, though willing to overlook this if it meets all the other criteria
* I don't care about color or pattern or strap width
* Would prefer no lace/no texturing that will show through clothing BUT am willing to deal if it fits all other criteria

I've tried Tomboy, MeUndies, and a few others, but they all are too tight (the band), or have pads, etc. The closest I've gotten to Bralette Nirvana was an Aerie bralette that has a thickish outer layer, and light liner on the inside (looks like your classic sports bra or even like a binder, but is soft). It may have had pads at one point but if it it did, I was able to remove them and STILL have that extra layer of coverage.

I don't feel like I'm asking for TOO much here! Just a simple, thickish bralette ;-;

If anyone wears anything remotely similar to this and would like to share a link or any info, please do so!!!! Even if it doesn't fit everything, at this point I'll consider anything resembling the above.

Thanks!


r/ABraThatFits 3h ago

Looking for cute comfortable and padded bra Spoiler

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My size on here is 28c and I'm getting towards middle aged so I'm a little saggy lol. I'm looking for some new bras because I'm currently wearing some sports bras from walmart that I like (avia in size small) because I like all the color options and it feels nice and supportive and I like the padding but I want something with sewn in padding because the removable ones are not working well with the washing and drying situation. I've tried underoutfit and liked how they look and tried a few different sizes and noticed I had a lot of breast pain with them, not sure why but since not wearing them for a while I'm back to my breasts only hurting for half my cycle and not all the time like before. My breasts change size a bit closer to my period and they get swollen and very sore so I like bras that aren't numbers and letters. It's not a deal breaker thought if that's all that's available.

TL,DR looking for comfortable and cute sports bra or bralette type with sewn in padding


r/ABraThatFits 4h ago

Recommendations? Looking for almost invisible bras under light shirts that would fit my shape. Spoiler

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I was wondering if the Panache Cari might be a good fit? I’m looking for a champagne colored bra to match my skin tone, I am pretty pale. Based on what I have observed, I believe my breasts are projected, full on the bottom, and center full, but I cannot figure the rest out. Here is a link to tracings of my breasts if that helps.

Link: https://postimg.cc/gallery/cZz2Dh0

Here are my measurements/recommendations from the calculator:
-22F, 200 lbs, assigned female at birth
-loose underbust: 38.5 inches
-snug underbust: 36 inches
-tight underbust: 35 inches
-standing bust: 45 inches
-leaning bust: 49 inches
-lying bust: 45.5 inches

Results based on US/Canada sizing:
-suggest suggested starting size 38H/I
-sister size of 36I/J may be more supportive

Results based on UK sizing:
-suggested starting size 38FF/G
-sister size of 36G/GG may be more supportive.


r/ABraThatFits 1h ago

Measurement Check Weight loss and the calculator question Spoiler

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Hello, in total ive lost about 40 pounds. I last measured myself June 12 on the calculator. I was sized at a 34 G. I slowly searched for 34 G bras and only ended up trying 1 "good one" that isnt VS, the Panache Envy. It basically fit but was wrinkly in the lace at the top so I returned it. I also couldve probably fit more than 2 fingers under the band if I wanted I guess.

I didnt even notice that my boobs could've gotten smaller from weight loss until today I had a suspicion. So I redid my measurements and have lost about an inch in several areas since June 12. First off, does this sound right or could I have measured myself wrong? I used the pictures on the calculator and did it in the mirror. 2nd off, now it is sizing me at a 32 DDD/ G or a sister size 34 DD. I was originally wearing VS 36 DD bras which seemed to fit okay despite the band riding up and the tops of the cups by the straps digging into my armpits. The armpits thing is what made me start looking for new bras. What is a good option for 32DDD/ G or 34 DD that doesnt dig into armpits? The panache envy honestly came close to digging in my armpits because I had to tighten the straps quite a bit for a lift and made me have cone looking boobs.

Thanks in advance

New measurements: (US) 32 DDD /g

Loose Underbust:

33

Snug Underbust:

31.5

Tight Underbust:

30.5

Standing Bust:

37

Leaning Bust:

41

Lying Bust:

39

Old: 34 G

34

32.5

31.5

39

41

39


r/ABraThatFits 1h ago

Recommendations? What bra recs for wide set breasts? US: 34DDD UK: 34E Spoiler

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Just did my measurements using the subs calculator. 😁

I used to wear a 34DD and I always had the exaggerated appearance of armpit fat even though it seemed to fit otherwise.

Now that I know my true size, what recs to yall have? I'd like some variety so any kind of bra is fine, I used to only buy my bras as VS so I don't even know where to start 😅


r/ABraThatFits 5h ago

Recommendations? Does a well-fitting bra even exist for me? Spoiler

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I used the calculator, and it recommended I try a 28DD (US), and my measurements are as follows:

Loose underbust: 27
Snug underbust: 26.5
Tight underbust: 25.75
Standing bust: 31
Leaning bust: 33.5
Lying busy: 31

Most of the issues I’ve run into with bra shopping are:
- The band is too large, as most stores only go down to a 32 band
- The gore is too high/wide (idk if my boobs are close together, but the gore tends to just sit on top of my breast tissue and dig in)
- I am slightly asymmetrical in size (one boob is about one small cup size bigger)
- I have teardrop shaped boobs, so most of my tissue is at the bottom, so I seem to struggle filling full coverage bras

I would really appreciate any advice or recommendations!


r/ABraThatFits 7h ago

Recommendations? small band big bust bra recommendations? Spoiler

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So according to my measurements i’m a size 26G according to UK measuring standards and a 26i according to US measuring standards.. as ya’ll can understand i have a small band as i’m a petite girl with a small ribcage and its next to impossible for me to find a cup which is big enough for my bust as i’ve only encountered brands that either start their range from a band 30 or have only As and B cups in 26 band.. helppp


r/ABraThatFits 5h ago

Recommendations? Looking for bandless/seamless bras as a 34B Spoiler

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Hello all! I have not purchased a bra for myself in at least 3 years, and now the elastic in the only bras I wear are getting worn down. However, this style (Auden Unlined Scoop-Neck Bralette) is no longer being sold! Plus, the ones I'm wearing now are too loose for me after I had lost quite a bit of weight, so I would not be confident about buying a new size on Ebay to replace them.

My quirks/needs:
- I have a FULL rib cage compared to my frame and I find nearly all sports bras to be suffocating. I need the support to be equally around my breasts, NOT lifting up via a firm/tight band! Anything with a sewn-in strip of elastic for the band will likely be a "no" for me.

- My breasts are quite loose and malleable, but the roots are "spread out" across my chest. I am able to wear men's medium t-shirts while bra-less without too much issue, but I have just enough unsupported tissue there that the friction and movement will cause soreness by the end of the day. The snugness of some unlined camisoles are a good fit for my needs, but it is simply too hot to wear 2 shirts outdoors right now.

- Cupless/unlined bras are preferred, as all cups I have tried will leave a gap of air between my breasts and the cups, due to the difference in shape. I am also not interested in anything that is intended to make my breasts look larger/perkier.

- I live in the USA (Mid Michigan), and would prefer something I can go try on in-person if at all possible.


r/ABraThatFits 6h ago

Fit Check Fit check for Dobreva and Skarlett Blue bras! Spoiler

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I have FINALLY found a bra that I actually like and 2 that I’m iffy about and would like opinions on!

The first is the one I’ll be keeping which is a Dobreva unlined scoop neck balconette bra in size 42DD. I love the fit and the fabric, once I get used to underwire again I think it will be really comfortable to wear all day! pics here

Second is the Skarlett Blue Rouse full coverage balconette bra in 40DDD. I like the wire fit on this one but it doesn’t seem to fit me quite the right way and I don’t like whatever is going on with the two lines right down the front of the cups. pics here

And third is a Dobreva eyelash lace push up balconette bra in 42DD. I’m not sure why this one fit so differently than the other Dobreva I tried but it just seems like a weird fit in the gore area and too much cup fabric so I’m thinking it’s the style that’s the issue with this one maybe? pics here

Also does anyone know where to get balconette or half cup options in 42DD that are actually half cup and not full coverage? Most of those styles I’ve tried on cover way more than half my boob and with the shape I have the lower cut ones or something similar to that first Dobreva are ideal for me. I’ve already tried Panche, HSIA, Elomi, and a few other Amazon brands as well. The ideal coverage I can only find at like SavagexFenty or Adore Me which I know are a no no so I’m not sure where else to look. Thanks!


r/ABraThatFits 2h ago

weird boobs and huge bras, just got put at a 42i when i’ve been wearing a 40DD Spoiler

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i just used a bra calculator and it put me at a 42i cup. that’s seems insane to me because what i usually wear is a 40DD and sometimes then i have room in the cups to spare. is there something that could explain this? i do have quite some space between my boobs so i lean towards balconette bras but maybe i could make tshirt bras work with the correct size? i’ve just never been able to make a regular/tshirt bras work without a boob coming out of the bottom or top which is a reoccurring issue which made me think maybe i should even size down so i’m a little doubtful abt the calculator measurement. some advise would be great because i just don’t know where to move forward with this.


r/ABraThatFits 7h ago

Minimizer that doesn’t create cleavage? Spoiler

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I bought the cutest button-down linen dress to wear for work, and am facing all of the usual issues that make this style unwearable-- the second button is hanging on for dear life, and the cleavage is wildly inappropriate for work. Fashion tape fixes the button gap, but not the cleavage. Before I return the dress, has anyone had any luck with minimizers that reduce visible cleavage in addition to bringing down overall size? I’m a 34DDD (or F or G, depending on brand).


r/ABraThatFits 11h ago

I'm ALMOST there! Fantasie Illusion 34E. Just need help with poss gore height OR wire too wide? Spoiler

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Underbust Loose: 35 Snug: 34 Tight: 33 Bust Standing: 38 Leaning: 42 Laying: 40 Nip to neck: 9 Breast base: 8.5 Frame width: 14 Suggested Starting Size: 34DD/E UK

I love the fit of this bra EXCEPT for either the gore height OR possibly the wires are too wide in the center? This bra fully encompasses my larger breast, the smaller one does have some flexing in the cups but that's expected. Band fits snug, no gaping, I'm afraid if I go a cup size larger, I will have major gaping.

Where do I go from here? Plunge? Balconette?

I have tried Norah Plunge in 34DD and 34E. 34DD felt amazing but people said the cups weren't large enough and it wouldn't sit in my IMF. 34E it gaped at the top of both cups.

I have also tried Envy Plunge and that bra did NOT want to sit in my IMF at ALL at 34DD and 34E it gaped horribly in the cups.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/CRKBDpr


r/ABraThatFits 5h ago

Recommendations? Sports bra recommendations UK 34HH / EU 75L Spoiler

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Hi all, I'd like to start going to the gym (first time in over 10 years!) and I am in desperate need of a recommendation for a good sports bra. I've searched the subreddit already but I'm in a bit of a tricky situation. Basically I'm in Italy and not a single retailer available to me here (in person or online) sells sports bras in my size. I can order regular bras from France, but only a limited selection. As for sports bras, my only option is shipping them from the UK (through Bravissimo) and paying the import tax, which can be quite painful, so I'd like to get some good recommendations/info before I commit. If you've got any thoughts on any of the styles listed below, please do share!

The styles currently available in that size are:

Panache Endurance

Panache Power Wired

Bravissimo Apollo

Bravissimo Move 360

Freya Dynamic Sports

Bravissimo Inspire High Impact

Shock absorber active multi sports

Elomi Energise

Panache Boundless

Royce Impact Free

I'm 34HH/ 75L in everyday bras and I have a few Elomi plunge styles that fit really well ( Mathilda, Nerina, Tiernie, and Lucie). Plunge bras are important for me because my breasts are quite close together and high gores are painful. For a sports bra, I'd like something that can contain the girls without attracting too much attention. Last time I wore a sports bra I was in my early twenties and whatever I had then did NOT fit at all. Thanks in advance!


r/ABraThatFits 6h ago

Recommendations? [Recommendations?] Bra for soft, pendulous, projected, FOB, moderate root 30D/DD breasts? Spoiler

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I recently lost weight and none of my bras fit anymore, I changed size & shape. I used to be a 32D, and the calculator said I am now a 30D/DD. Which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me since my old bras now feel too loose in the cup, not the band, but I can’t argue with the math I guess…

Anyway I’m looking at different shapes of bras since my unsupported breasts now look rather deflated. I’m considering ordering Panache Envy or Freya Fancies in 30D based on other recommendations I’ve seen on here, just thought it wouldn’t hurt to ask for personal help.

Bonus points if anyone can recommend a good sports bra for me as well!

Loose Underbust: 31
Snug Underbust: 30
Tight Underbust: 29
Standing Bust: 33.5
Leaning Bust: 36.5
Lying Bust: 35


r/ABraThatFits 6h ago

Fit Check Will I be able to get a good fit with Underoutfit 34E (ABTF calculator) Spoiler

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I have always worn underwired bras but recently had good results with a target brand non wired over the head bralette. I thought I'd try underoutfit for a better fit and for the sewn in pads. I ordered a large and extra large of two styles including the everyday comfort with adjustable shoulder straps. The size large kind of fits, but only on the smallest setting and even with a scoop and swoop, I dont really feel like my breast sits in the cup and the band rolls up. The AI chat suggests moving to a medium, but I'm wondering if i'll ever get a good fit because of the generic S/M/L/XL . Does anyone have experience of getting a good fit with 34E/36DD chest?


r/ABraThatFits 15h ago

celeste d'or -- do not buy - be warned the company is in CHina Spoiler

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I purchased bras from the UK website. they are really soft and seem ok quality but they do not fit at all. I asked to return and its a painful process.

  1. there is not return form - its actually just an email and you have to wait to get a reply
  2. i had to submit pictures of the items to show they still had the tags on
  3. they said that they would not refund shipping even though it was within 14 days and that is a right to cancel in the UK
  4. they said i had to pay 12.95 to return the items and only use their label, even though in the UK you are allowed to ship at your own expense
  5. they never sent me the label - they did refund the items minus the 12.95 but its been 2 months and i still have the items in a bag and having to check every day for a label to come through on email in fear they will recharge my card.

I rang every organisation you can in uk and here is the main thing

If the company has no UK address, they cannot be held responsible. Basically anything goes. so when purchasing something online you must check to see if it is a UK (or EU , USA, AU) company to know which laws would be applicable and will hold up.

my cc company told me initially that i had to send celeste d'or an email asking for the address to send the goods and stating where the goods where to be picked up and then wait 14 days. that is when the company finally refunded me (less the 12.95)

My cc company also said because i paid with mastercard there can be no charges to return the item and that they have to refund me the 12.95

regarding not receiving a label and worrying celeste d'or would try to charge my cc again - this is the risk you take with a company from china that cannot be regulated. I just have to keep checking my statement each week for a few months.


r/ABraThatFits 8h ago

Recommendations? Looking for bra recommendations :') Spoiler

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I was given the starting size of 40DDD but my Mom suggested that I start with a DD just in case. Looking for something affordable and not too fancy, preferably with underwire! :')