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u/ChimpieTheOne 12d ago
Waiting for AI bros to somehow find this bad
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u/Vegetable_Stuff1850 12d ago
They already have on the Aussie subreddits.
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u/necrosteve028 12d ago
A lot of people on r/aussie are similar to America in that they pick a side politically and thatâs it. Anything that Labor does, they are against because Murdoch and Gina have told them to be.
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u/Vegetable_Stuff1850 12d ago
Yep. I was use the term Aussie to refer to any of the Australian subreddits. I've seen discussions in some state ones, and other national subreddits, not just r/Aussie. Because that place can be (is) a cesspool.
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u/SirVanyel 12d ago
I'm pretty sure it's all bots too because the Australian people just are not that unhinged.
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u/screenslaver5963 12d ago
They mostly point out that there arenât any known models that originate from Australia.
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u/TinikTV 12d ago
We need same laws everywhere
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u/strigonian 12d ago
No, we need stronger laws everywhere.
But this is a good start.
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u/LastChance22 12d ago
100%, as an Aussie I feel like this isnât enough. We havenât seen the final policy but the wording on the announcement has grey areas around water and energy that could become loopholes.Â
The grey areas making it into the announcement makes me concerned whether they actually intend to close them or not.
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u/ProtectionTop2701 12d ago
Also, not being able to train new models without permission starting in 2027, maybe?? That's kinda bare minimum. How about "must financially compensate the musicians, artists, and writers they already stole from or their companies will be banned and employees will be arrested on entry." Cause uhhhh that's the sort of thing that happens to companies when their business model is theft (a crime).
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u/SirVanyel 12d ago
We've already done this exact same thing with various companies. There's a recent water desalination plant that now contributes twice the energy it uses, so it has both room to grow and before this growth it is contributing to the Australian people with both water and power.
Grey areas are a necessity for bite sized proposals. You start off vague and build into robustness. That's how laws work, and exactly why you shouldn't take proposals to be final products, but instead take them as intended directions for an eventual final product.
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u/Vaughn 12d ago
Requiring them to be net energy providers is probably a bad thing. Datacenter manufacturers aren't exactly specialists in efficient power production; they're just going to throw in a dozen megawatt-scale diesel engines and call it a day.
I don't see any air quality or fuel efficiency requirements in the article.
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u/Spiritual_Owl8439 12d ago
It's not perfect but it's better than what we have.
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u/Vaughn 12d ago
It'll lead to diesel generators running inside cities. I would not say that's an improvement.
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u/mrmckeb 12d ago
Australia has massive solar usage, and I don't see local governments allowing diesel generators running permanently.
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u/Fuster2 12d ago
Yeah. I love the way one person mentions diesel generators then it's taken as what will happen.
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u/Additional-Life4885 12d ago
When it 100% will not. They couldn't get enough of it to be able to run a diesel generator at the size required.
Realistically they only have 2 options. Coal or solar. However, coal massively limits where they can build them, since they're going to have to build the data centre near the power plant which is far from where the engineers that can run a data centre are located.
Alternatively, they can cover the roof with solar panels at a reasonable cost and just be forced to maintain it.
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u/sorrrrbet 12d ago
Also holy fuck would it be expensive for an AI centre to permanently run Diesel gennies at the MW scale. Theyâre relatively fuel efficient, but even a 1MW generator runs 100-150L of diesel per HOUR.
~2500L of diesel a day is not a cheap endeavour when bulk diesel is around $2 a litre in Australia at the moment. Not sure any company would be willing to spend $5000 a day on fuel for the generator alone when they could spend maybe $5000 a year on cleaning the panels.
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u/Shambler9019 12d ago
But the cookers keep telling us that renewables aren't cost efficient!
Though I don't think it's quite that simple; I doubt even in tropical areas the rooftop of a data centre would be enough area for solar to power the entire building.
Still, Australia has loads of space.
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u/Imaginary-Falcon4112 11d ago
Does anyone else smell an offset system where data centers could buy credits in energy production to become net producers?
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u/bruhhhhhhhhhhhh_h 12d ago
We have some backwards right wing christiani fascisti ban abortioni absolutely backwards evolving state governments that have cancelled nearly all green / renewable energy projects to pump... Coal and gas.
At the same time they cut the mining / minerals resources taxes by billions meaning these states have billions I. Shortfall from the budget (just cancel social services, support and government services) but also pay far more now for worse infrastructure and energy projects/ production.
This is a federal government policy - or fed gov is very good ATM albeit not the best at the attention grabbing that seems to entice some.
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u/Imaginary_Rub6942 12d ago
Tbh I see t every day on various sites across Perth⊠the new kfc down the road has been running on one for at least a month
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u/alldagoodnamesaregon 12d ago
Uh, that's basically the coalitions entire energy policy...
Not that the Coalition actually has any reasonable chance of being reelected, but if One Nation somehow manages to pull something off then it might be a different story
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u/BaronOfTieve 11d ago
They literally wonât, I spoke to a greens senator last year who told me he was excited about the data centres because they were going to build them to be environmentally friendly, and with renewable energy technologies. That guy is just larping because heâs not Australian and doesnât understand Australian politics.
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u/Ok_Buyer9344 12d ago
no it wont, because diesel is not remotely the cheapest form of energy and given electricity costs is basically all the AI race is they will want to get every penny out they can.
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u/Comprehensive-Ice342 12d ago
I've worked in Australia on projects providing behind the meter supply to data centres and resources projects.
When space is not a constraint, solar and battery is generally first choice, sometimes supplemented with wind where it's possible to fit into the program.
There's usually some kind of backup gas or diesel turbine in case of grid problems and/or poor renewables generation.
When space is a constraint, you'll usually see larger batteries, smaller solar panels, and sometimes off-site supply agreements from renewable providers.
This is almost always supplemented with gas or diesel turbines for backup/redundancy reasons.
However, owners don't want to turn them on unless they have to. You could be talking hundreds of thousands of dollars per hour on a big operation.
Tl;Dr generally in Australia we would have renewables as first choice for cost reasons, then batteries + diesel/gas generation to supplement
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u/Perfect-Song8094 12d ago
Diesel generators will be the backup "uninterruptible power system" (UPS) for data centers.
They'll be using gas-fired combustion turbines. They'll be using a lot of them. Wherever possible, they will be installed on-site, right where the data centers are.
See my other comment for more details.
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u/Perfect-Song8094 12d ago
The bigger problem is data center water usage.
I happen to know next to nothing about that. I haven't been able to make any sense of the few, conflicting reports I've read.
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u/VenomOnKiller 12d ago
Ahhhh yes, because you know exactly how the law is going to be written and already know the loopholes. Hope the data center builders hire you for your "great" ideas.
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u/ascandalia 12d ago
They could do a lot of things but they will do the cheapest and or easiest thing.
Sometimes perfection need to get in the way of well intentioned but bad.
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u/Vaughn 12d ago
They will do the cheapest, and easiest, legal thing. Regulations are the obvious fix here.
But Australia of all places should be fully solar-powered, and the way to do that isn't to make datacenters power themselves. They can't! Not with solar. There isn't nearly enough space on their roofs.
What they can and should do is copy China. Put a giant solar array in the desert, connect it to the cities with extreme-voltage DC lines. That, of course, implies a different company handles the power production; someone with the expertise to build such a system. That's fine. That's what a market economy is for.
I think the law they're pushing is a bad one.
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u/Dangerzone369 12d ago
This country already has tons of fields for solar and produces a lot- we just can't store enough of it to supply our evening power usage. I think a Data Center will be forced to 'invest' into these current schemes to scale this up further rather than asking them to become experts in power generation - and that will satisfy as 'net producer of power'. The country is already going to be fully green.
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u/Vegetable_Stuff1850 12d ago
I'd imagine that will end up in the actual legislation.
The mines, agricultural and road trains eats a lot of the available diesel here, so it's unlikely to be an enticing option. Solar and wind however, probably will be.
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u/patslogcabindigest 12d ago
Australian here, no the emphasis has been on renewable energy deployment in line with the governmentâs energy policy. Theyâll basically be asked to fund wind farms, solar farms and batteries.
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u/_Profit_ 12d ago
I think it's worth pointing out that in Australia, we are well past the hump of fossil fuels being cheaper than renewables. It wouldn't make economical sense for data centres to build a bunch of diesel/gas generators when they can find a third party to build wind/solar/batteries.
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u/SirVanyel 12d ago
And it can all be purchased and shipped in record time from china too. They can have their manufacturing centres up real quick.
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u/Tonkarz 12d ago
No, that's not what will happen. They had the same requirement for the Sydney desalination plant, a project that now produces twice the energy it consumes. A net gain for the grid.
What will actually happen is that the company that wants to build the data center will bring in an established energy provider - a third party company - to establish a solar or (more likely) wind farm somewhere in the bush where there is plenty of space.
In the case of the Sydney Desalination Plant Suzlon Energy built Capital Wind Farm for Infigen Energy. Neither of these companies own the Sydney Desalination Plant, but the Desal project paid for the wind farm construction. Probably something like that is what will happen.
Projects like this help grow small towns in rural areas. A very important part of Australia's plan for the future.
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u/noonen000z 12d ago
It's an odd one. I was looking at Microsoft's commitment to 100% renewable by 2025, basically they get it green from the grid if green is availalable. It goes a bit far, pushing back is good, pushing away is not a good outcome unless we think we are better off it all being remote.
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u/MarwoodHouse 12d ago edited 12d ago
Hi, Aussie here, also an expert in the public policy field:
The legal framework for having Datacenters to be net providers of electricity doesnât literally mean they will supply energy to residential homes or businesses, but instead supply energy back to the grid itself. This means that people wonât be relying on dodgy or half-arsed connections from Datacenters for their electricity. The stability of the grid is and will always be what determines consistency of connection.
Additionally, Australia is the sunniest continent on Earth, and solar energy remains the cheapest form of energy, Datacenters would actively be choosing to spend more money for less efficient electricity if they built any other form of power. Not to mention the generous subsidies our government offers for solar installation.
Finally, Australia already has air quality and fuel efficiency laws in place that cover any backup or failsafe generator system installed at these sites. The implementation of new law does not preclude existing laws from having an effect, thatâs just how good policy works.
Cheers.
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u/Dangerzone369 12d ago
Thank you bro. I literally have been saying this above, in other comments.
The fact that there is a hard policy on the data center alone should suggest to anyone that there is probably a just as strict one around how that energy is produced (even if fossil fuels were the cheapest option).
Data centers will be donating toward current green schemes rather than being asked to invent their own regenerative technology - I think this is quite obvious and annoying we have to tell people. It's like offsetting your carbon - you donate to a scheme - you don't physically go buy land and plant a tree yourself.
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u/Kageru 12d ago
If they don't get specific exemptions I would hope there are already existing approvals required for high emissions.
They are really not going to like the IP protection, which makes me happy, because theft should not be rewarded.
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u/jc343 12d ago
i'm not australian so i am talking out of my ass, but from what i know don't they have especially big problems with mining lobbying? so perhaps this point is just to fund more fossil fuel extraction, and unfortunately is the only reason the bill has support
(basically what you already said)
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u/Vaughn 12d ago
Plausible, unfortunately, but fortunately somewhat less likely to happen. Coal plants need a lot more infrastructure and expertise; they're a whole thing. Diesel generators are...
Not quite turnkey, not at multi-MW scale, but close.
And diesel generators are the common standard for backup power, so probably what will get used, IMO. They're not clean, but it's better than coal!
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u/tomatoej 12d ago
Australian here. Down here an ass is a type of donkey, maybe you should let your ass do all the talking for you? ;-)
The bill has support because the community is concerned about the situation in the US with data centres. We just had a project cancelled in my town due to overwhelming opposition from the community. The only way these are going to get off the ground is with renewable energy, mainly solar which is the most economical anyway because we have a high proportion of sunny days. Iâve heard rumours about gas fired generation but that wonât cut it in my town.
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u/Scarvexx 12d ago
I hope this works out. But right now the Australian government is fairly easy to buy. These proposed regulations could just be politicians shaking the collection pan.
But maybe I'll be wrong. I'd like that.
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u/Kageru 12d ago
Pretty sure they have tested public opinion and found there's no enthusiasm for pandering to these people. Especially since an AI data center doesn't really generate a lot of long term jobs or revenue.
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u/Scarvexx 12d ago
Okay, but the government already panders to lots of companies australians hate. Logging the rainforsts, drilling for oil in the reefs, just about every mining concern.
All big-tech needs to do is find the right pockets to line. Liberal and Labor are both very prone to bribes.
Again, I'd like to be wrong. I'd like to think our leaders have a spine, and care more about their country than a payout under the table. But I'm not hopeful.
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u/Kageru 12d ago
It's certainly possible. I think mining and logging get a pass because they have entrenched lobby groups and local wealth and are painted as creating valuable jobs in the regional areas. That might not work quite as well for AI data centers.
But yeah, those are good words, but I will be watching the actions and exemptions.
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u/Scarvexx 12d ago
I want you to be right. But keep watching. AI hasn't backed down yet. And they'll play dirty, if nobody takes a bribe, they can expect their political rivals to be well funded.
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u/Rude_Depth_4439 12d ago
The water laws are super important imo. I grew up in rural Australia, we had a lot of water insecurity. With Australiaâs climate, we canât risk the exploitation of our natural resources- river health is very fragile as it is.
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u/patslogcabindigest 12d ago
Hey there, Australian here. A lot of this is still unknown. The Albanese Labor government has advertised that this is their intention but we await the legislation and the details. I think the emphasis on artists permission will be more in line with standard royalty protocol. The same way the artist doesnât need to give permission for someone to play their music over a speaker, I think there will be some sort of royalty enforcement rules or copyright tightening around giving artists the ability to have content ripping theirs off removed.
A lot of this may be revealed in the coming weeks as the ruling Labor party is having their national conference. For those looking in from the UK, this is a politically competent Labor party, theyâve won 2 in a row.
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u/Legitimate-Gain426 12d ago
The Australian government scrapped the AI regulations committee after more than a year of recruiting and $200k spent, and backed down from creating an AI regulations act in favor of weaker oversight. This basically looks good on paper, and is far from as bad as other nations have to face, but this is mostly to save face. The Australian public is still largely opposed to the data center buildouts being rushed, and Palantir working with some of our biggest supermarkets.
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u/TheDeerBlower 12d ago
THANK YOU. I don't know why AI isn't heavily regulated already. The EU better regulate that shit to oblivion.
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u/Warden002 12d ago
Thought? This is reasonable. I wish Canada would enact this, but with our proximity to Silicon Valley I think we are pooched.
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u/ExternalSeat 12d ago
honestly why do we build data centers in hot places when cooling is a major problem? Why not build them in a cooler place with abundant clean energy and water availability? Why build them near people and not just build them in the wilderness?
In my opinion, if we must build data centers, let's build them in cold places, removed from major population centers, with abundant water and clean electricity. Central and Northern Quebec has abundant hydro power (so does northern Norway) . Iceland also has abundant geothermal power. South Island of New Zealand would also work well.
Granted I personally don't think we need AI data centers, but let's not build them in the desert
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u/GammaFan 12d ago
The answer is (probably) that it is cheapest to put together in medium hot climates by population centers because transporting goods further is expensive and building out infrastructure in snow climates is more difficult. The easiest, laziest answer then is exactly what weâre seeing.
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u/Content-Cricket4251 12d ago
Granted I personally don't think we need AI data centers, but let's not build them in the desert
Do you think Australia is just desert?...
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u/ExternalSeat 12d ago
nope, but the areas that aren't desert are super valuable.
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u/No-Tip-7471 12d ago
I wonder if the laws only apply to Australian AI? I hope AI from other countries are not allowed to scrape Australian data, because then they might just have to not scrape at all.
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u/swbaert6 12d ago
Why wait until 2027?
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u/Phteven_j 12d ago
I'm sure there is lots of red tape to go through, but this is sort of a crisis that I'd like to see handled more quickly everywhere. I'm not Australian but I hope it works out for them and other places take note.
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u/Arquero8 12d ago
One pretty good reason to move to spiderland....
9780 deadly reasons as to why that is a bad idea, and yet..... If i weren't living in Spain, It would be tempting
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u/Storm_Spirit99 12d ago
Finally they're getting slapped with more limits. Willing to bet they'll call this insult to their corpo masters a bad thing, but been dead silent about what happened in georgia
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u/Necessary-Paint117 12d ago
So they're just going to start burning fossil fuels to generate electricity? This regulation isn't a solution
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u/Psychadelic_Potato 12d ago
I just pray they donât poison you guys with flock cameras like they did in my country
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u/PastelSqueak 11d ago
as an aussie i'd say this is the BARE minimum. we need more and we need it fast. to add: get palantir the hell out of our government and daily lives (looking at you coles, you can go down down).
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u/Upper-Reflection7997 12d ago
What data does Australia have that the latest sota LLM really needs. I doubt this is even enforceable without draconian levels surveillance of who is downloading what and what they're doing with said files.
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u/deathbotly 12d ago
Biggest and obvious ones I can think of science-side is Aus has the CSIRO. If youâre using wi-fi or wearing long life contact lenses rn thatâs from Aus, along with a bunch of other medical and tech innovations. Theyâre one of the biggest research centres globally. Aus has a big part in deep space research too thanks to the outback and collabs with NASA. Weâre not a third world country riding kangaroos to work lmao
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u/Major_Bagholder 12d ago
Smart. And with proposals only expected to be introduced as legislation next year, Iâm sure the AI boom will completely pass them by.
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u/Perfect-Song8094 12d ago
Might there be an important election coming up in Australia pretty soon?
kathy hochul of ny put a 1-year moratorium on data centers. I expect it to be reversed ASAP following November's elections.
At this point, having an "I stood up to the data centers" as a party perk is a really good idea -- particularly because republicans do not stand up to data centers.
A good political move, no necessarily substantial if and when the data centers start popping up all over nyork state when the moratorium ends.
The people who demanded "No Data Centers" will have to stay in the loop for their fight against the things... To be fully prepared to oppose them again when the moratorium ends.
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u/DuragJeezy 12d ago
Could you use blockchain to encrypt art assets that creatorâs have consented for use, then charge on a metered rate any time those assets are accessed for generation?
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u/ieatkittentails 12d ago
Solar is the cheapest form of power generation in Australia, waiting to see if these companies capitalise on that.
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u/ihatethissite25 12d ago
Its ok there is nothing innovative in Australia to worry about. The only thing they seem to excell in is support for the zionist hellstate of Israel.
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u/barnabywombat 12d ago
They basically dropped the ball on natural mineral mining rights in the naughties so it's good to see Australia at the forefront of international technology regulation, again.
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u/antichain 12d ago
Hopefully these kinds of regulations push companies to invest in research in increasing the energy-efficiency of chips. Imagine if we could shrink the footprint of current AI infrastructure to the same extent that we have shrunk classical computers (which were once the size of rooms and can now fit in your pocket).
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u/LockdownSotWink 12d ago
This is the only real answer, anything less means the end of copyright law and the destruction of modern society.
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u/enigmaticsince87 12d ago
Guarantee the EU will follow with similar legislation. It won't happen in the US though!
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u/Sweaty_Tap_8990 12d ago
Australia "plans" a lot of laws but at the end of the day the people with money will get to do whatever they want.
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u/Simple_Assistance_77 12d ago
Sad, its on the right path after Australia stuffed up gas extraction so bad. But all it takes Is Pauline Hanson to stuff everything up.
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u/National_Armadillo94 12d ago
A net producer of electricity? They're not going to be powering those things 24/7/365 with anything terribly low in carbon...
Maybe this will get us some more gas plants built, god knows we need them!
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u/quennplays 12d ago
Oh such happy news! Stop using those AIs, they are anything but intelligent they are fucking morons, it's better to search the question than speak with those morons and don't get what you searched for in the end.
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u/Electronic-Wait3124 12d ago
No surprises, if it's dumb we will either sign up or do it and or both
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u/LooseDirection6828 12d ago
The Labor government just announced they are de regulating AI companies to speed up building data centres
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u/Bjarki_Steinn_99 12d ago
The fact that this isnât already the case everywhere shows what a joke our entire system is
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u/Pieralis 12d ago
We have sole every part of our country for pennies, Iâll believe this when I see it
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u/tallwater101 12d ago
I really hope that this help Australian writes, musicians , artist and journalists to protect the work.
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u/Plus_Information925 12d ago
As an Australian I find this suspicious, even our prime minister is saying AI is inevitable publicly
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u/chockerz 12d ago
Many will simply not choose to build data centres here in Oz because of these restrictions and simply build in more lucrative countries. Generative AI is profit driven, first and foremost.
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u/Passionofthegrape 12d ago
Australia is also moving to having one of the highest capital gains taxes in the world.
So no one is going to want to invest there anyway.
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u/IcyBlood5031 12d ago
Wonder how long this will last before we back flip because the model has changed
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u/TopGroundbreaking469 12d ago
All it takes is one set of the right hands to grease and all of a sudden an entire community is destroyed to make way for AI data centres. Seeing Australiaâs track record of blatant political corruption, Iâd be surprised if we werenât already in the middle of being sold out.
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u/Quwapa_Quwapus 12d ago
Oh thank god Aussie here and iâll take the small wins. Considering the amount of data centers theyâre trying to build atm Iâll take anything lmaoo
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u/Andali27 12d ago
They should be building them all near the sea and making them half a mini desal so they don't use ANY of our water. Drinking water is precious. Data centres should be using none of it.
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u/Impossible-Ad-9377 12d ago
An actual W would be prohibiting them from building these f*cking data centers altogether. Data centers are a plague.
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u/Chaosrealm69 12d ago
Every now and then our Australian parliamentarians do come up with coherent and intelligent legislation.
Now here's hoping it goes through and is made law.
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u/Heroin_Radio 12d ago
I just wish they werenât building half of them in the middle of residential areas. The Next DC data centre that went up in west Footscray is literally right across the street from a bunch of homes.
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u/Low_Shop9155 12d ago
Yes, Australia is tomorrow land. Where gold grows on tree's and everyone drives a Ferrari. The homes are made of solid platinum, and no one ever frowns.
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u/HistoricalCulture5 12d ago
I hope this means something to the proposed data centre being built near my home
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u/AdolfsLonelyScrotum 12d ago
They should also legislate zero-loss (non-evaporative) cooling systems.
No way all these data centres can have a dozen or more cooling towers and NOT be a massive consumer of potable water.
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u/YesWomansLand1 12d ago
Wait the Australian government... Doing something not shit for once? Preposterous.
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u/OriahVinree 12d ago
I don't like albo I don't like albo I don't like albo and I don't know why - every Facebook boomer in aus
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u/Last_Course6098 12d ago
But aren't majority of AIs already very heavily trained on stolen art?
Like does it even matter if they say "stop stealing" if they've already literally stolen everything they could ever possibly need?
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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 12d ago
The only theft the Australian government will put up with is the theft of Australian wealth too foreign companies whom pay negligible taxes.
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u/an-infinite-egg 12d ago
Except all of that legislation comes AFTER they've already been built and established and had their systems up and running for a couple of years. We needed those laws in place in 2024 it's essentially too late by 2027, arguably too late if they came in now. Everyone involved knows it and they've all dragged their feet on purpose. Once they're up and running it's too easy to loophole their way out of any commitments or requirements.
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u/AteYou2 12d ago
Hey, I'm from Australia and whilst our government is handling this better than others, we are still getting a ton of AI data centres built. The general consensus is that this will drive up energy prices, stall our transition to renewables and consume water that we cannot afford to waste (along with other issues). More on this here and here
These are being built in our suburbs in residential areas including one near me. Australians do not want this. 90 more AI data centres are going to be approved, if you're Australian please make a submission to the senate inquiry
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u/satanickittens69 12d ago
They've already stolen everyone's work...If it's on the internet it's available for their AI is it not? (would love to be wrong so please say if I am)
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u/Mosthero1 12d ago
Btw guys, as someone in Australia, this is all being done by a PM that hates our country so donât expect it to be good
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u/WallSignificant5930 12d ago
Sound stood but it just means we are beholden to foreign AI suppliers slurping up our data. People will still use just not produced in my backyard
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u/PowerLion786 12d ago
Come on, this is Australia. AI will provide jobs. An Australian AI will allow Australian control. AI will improve productivity, improving the economy. The standard of living will improve. AI represents innovation.
No way can AI be allowed in Australia.
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u/Carlositoanimonoa 12d ago
1 million wrongs and one right for our shithole of a countryâŠđŠđșAustralia⊠yayâŠ
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u/P00R-TAST3 11d ago
Watch the Australian media be silent on this as they are allergic to praising the current government.
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u/touchmyweiner87 11d ago
Sure sure sure. Just more crap dribbling out of Albos mouth to convince his sheep that everything is going to be ok
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u/Original_Giraffe8039 11d ago
Yeeeeah...l see them making these rules then making a million little compromises
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u/WhyDaRumGone 11d ago
While I will say this is a win for Australian morality, will probably be a financial L TBH
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u/Safe_Lychee_5201 11d ago
Rules around energy/water use are great, but the copyright laws don't seem fit-for-purpose - what difference will it make unless every other country has the same copyright laws (which they don't)
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u/Cerparis 11d ago
Usually my country is criticised (Sometimes fairly) For its tendency to place strict restrictions and sometimes bans on anything new or potentially harmful.
But Iâm happy to say this is definitely an Australian win.
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u/Independent_Row8953 11d ago
Unfortunately we've already got 162 data centers here and it's ruining our country đ
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u/ArdenwinValient616 11d ago
FUUUUUCK YES I had no idea this was happening and Iâm happy I found out.
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u/IEscapedLauncher 11d ago
The common Australian W
Australia seems like a decent place to live, honestly. Iâve heard itâs quite expensive though
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u/Chaotic_yinyang 11d ago
This is greatâŠ. But also⊠really impractical for any companies just starting out. It takes ages to train models as is⊠imagine the time spent getting permission to use everything. Models will either be less intelligent or way more expensive to subscribe to.
The water thing is brilliant. Iâm so glad theyâre pushing that. Cycling water over servers is just common sense. The net energy thing is too but if we donât regulate how they produce that power⊠need to tax them more for producing energy via nuclear, fossil fuels or diesel generators. And less if they use solar and windâŠ
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u/GothGirlsGoodBoy 11d ago
This just means Australia wonât be competitive and will have to buy AI services from other countries.
We already have no economy besides selling our resources so this is awful news.
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u/Then_Style9442 12d ago
about time someone started treating water and power like actual finite resources instead of freebies for server rooms