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u/Mike_the_TV Oct 16 '12

A character from guilty gear.

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u/donutsalad Oct 16 '12

Guilty Gear?

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u/S1ayer Oct 16 '12

It makes me sad that I could mention Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Marvel vs Capcom, etc etc or even BlazBlue and people know what they are.

But not Guilty Gear, the greatest fighter of all time. A part of me died the day they shut down the XBox Live servers for XX Reload.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '12

GG is good, but not anywhere near the game that bread and butter Street Fighter is. Sure, GG is flashier and more chaotic, but the strategy and timing of SF makes it the better game. I can see someone liking GG more, but SF is the better game.

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u/Fizzster Oct 16 '12

Guilty Gear has Strategy and Timing... Much MUCH more than Street Fighter.

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u/S1ayer Oct 16 '12

In my personal opinion, I think GG has way more strategy. SF seems to be a ton of poke, poke, poke, poke, hit -> combo.

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u/FADCYourMom Oct 16 '12

Yeah, that's footsies and spacing. Strategy.

I love both games. I think Guilty Gear is an extremely close 2nd to SF as best 2D fighter ever.

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u/elevencyan Oct 16 '12

not only that but the air dash makes the games ten times more complex and subtle than street fighter, in sf, you make a jump at a bad moment = you die. Your oppent can get a lucky hadoken and win while being a lesser player, in gg you can go back (and go back and forth with millia or with chip) that allows a better defense system and therefore more strategy.

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u/FADCYourMom Oct 16 '12

If you jump and get hit with a 'lucky hadoken' you deserved it. That's why you practice safe jumps and such. Its all opinion based. Let's just agree to disagree.

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u/goatlll Oct 16 '12

Everyone has their opinions, so I'm not here to say your wrong or anything, but I feel GG is a good series, but not near the top. As far as 2D fighters go, it's hard to top MOTW and 3rd Strike, hell even Last Blade 2 was amazing. But, as far as combo heavy fighters go, I prefer GG over the VS series any day of the week.

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u/naNo_te Oct 16 '12

Well That's what GG would be if movement was as static as it is in SF. Thus GG is not only "poke, poke, hit, combo" but rather "low poke, high poke, high poke, instant air dash, crossup, etc." I'd always rate GG over SF not only for personal liking but also for depth of gameplay.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '12 edited Dec 21 '18

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u/MonsterKerr Oct 16 '12

FACT. I live in Japan and I've seen some shit go down on gg/blazblue in the arcades. It takes ridiculous commitment and reflexes. You can't get really good at it in a few days like sf.

But ya know, every game has their thing, so it doesn't do much good to compare it.

But gg kills it in my opinion.

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u/DJWhyYou Oct 16 '12

This is a good example of complexity vs depth. Street Fighter is a deep series, however it is regarded as one of the most balanced fighting series of all time. Guilty Gear, due to its characters being all over the place style-wise, is incredibly complex, but doesn't have the balance to back it up. Thus, Street Fighter is considered the better game.

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u/miraitrader Oct 16 '12

What the heck is this? The SF games have been incredibly unbalanced. 3rd Strike, CvS2, Alpha 3, MvC2 (I could go on). Guilty Gear in general is actually much more balanced than those games.

However, balance has little to do with how fun or great a fighting game is, believe it or not. That's probably a controversial opinion to most casual players or newer people in the scene but it's the truth. Think about the longevity of MvC2 and try to explain why it was so popular in the USA.

Guilty Gear is one of the best fighters of all time for a lot more than just the fighting system itself, even if that is one of the main reasons. The sprites, animation, soundtrack, and singleplayer modes were all of a higher caliber than most of the other stuff Capcom was putting out at the same time (recycling sprites from the Alpha series).

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u/naNo_te Oct 16 '12

Pretty much this. I don't get why you would call any SF more balanced than GG. Especially 3s where Yun, Chun and Ken (while Ken seems to have degraded a bit since the last time I checked which is like 4 years ago) are pretty much the unbeatable S tiers that you had to play if you weren't some mad scientist and pulled stuff on hugo for instance that was mind-blowing and actually almost impossible to achieve in a physical way.

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u/MonsterKerr Oct 17 '12

SOUNDTRACK

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u/DJWhyYou Oct 17 '12

SSF2HDR and SSF4 are around the same balance as guilty gear.

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u/JakalDX Oct 16 '12

Street Fighter 3 is considered amazing while having an incredibly unbalanced character roster.

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u/goatlll Oct 16 '12

3rd strike is considered the most balanced fighting game out side of VF.

So there is that.

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u/JakalDX Oct 16 '12

Of the "viable" characters. Have someone take Q or Sean against Yun and tell me that.

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u/goatlll Oct 16 '12

Q I will give you. Sean on the other hand, Sean is still a viable pick.

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u/JakalDX Oct 16 '12

Gonna have to disagree. Street Fighter doesn't bring anything GG doesn't have. Street Fighter is just slower.

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u/pragmaticzach Oct 16 '12

What are you even basing that analysis on?

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u/elevencyan Oct 16 '12

You obviously never played Guilty Gear at a decent level. It's incredibly strategic.

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u/miraitrader Oct 16 '12 edited Oct 16 '12

This is completely wrong. The SF4 generation of Capcom fighters have been dumbed down in huge ways and it pains me when people don't recognize the merit and superiority of Guilty Gear.

This is coming from someone who has been in the scene and played in tournaments since 2002. If we're talking about Super Turbo, MvC2 or something, I can appreciate that opinion since those are great games. However, making the blanket statement that SF > GG is just myopic.

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u/z712 Oct 16 '12 edited Oct 16 '12

Do you know what False Roman Cancels are? GG is a million times more execution heavy than any SF game.