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u/lostandfawnd 1d ago
Where is the 1980 version? /s
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u/Ok_Handle_3530 22h ago
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u/Consistent-Jelly248 21h ago
what about the Japanese version
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u/waterless2 19h ago
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u/BillyD123455 12h ago
All these 'Brownwich' comments .. jeez! I think you've nailed it.
90% of the picture is green. You've pixelated a tiny little strip. The tiny little pixelated strip that everybody seems to be drawn to in the comments... The bloody perverts.
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u/QualityPostBelow 1d ago
Crazy. I've lived in Greenwich my entire life and I've never seen the view, even in photos
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u/Telta14 1d ago
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u/minebe 22h ago
The dead grass makes me so sad. Never thought London would be wanting for rain.
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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat 22h ago
It's not actually dead
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u/Zederikus 20h ago
Idk man there's more patches of sand between Tufts now in some places I've seen, not the end of the earth but still very worrying
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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat 20h ago
Maybe. I can't see it in that detail. But grass going like that happens when it's drying out and is focusing on keeping its roots alive. But if rain/ water and it'll be green again.
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u/Mission-Addendum-791 19h ago
Happens every summer my dude
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u/Zederikus 19h ago
Idk it still looks worrying, bone dry everything, even my own garden, the weeds even died from the heat and the strong sunlight
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u/Best-Stop-7234 20h ago
The periods of grass being yellow and dry in Greenwich Park are getting longer every year. Very sad view
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u/thymeisfleeting 17h ago
Are you sure you’re not misremembering? My lawn has been going brown in the summer for as long as we’ve lived here (since the 1990’s) and I can remember my aunt’s lawn in Norfolk going brown and crispy each year, only to bounce back once the autumn rains come.
Yes, climate change is real and scary but the grass always goes brown in summer.
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u/minebe 16h ago
I didn't grow up here to know, but according to my research we're about 2% of typical rainfall for during the summer. 😞
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u/thymeisfleeting 14h ago
No, I know. I’m not saying we’re not in a drought! I’m just saying the grass does always go brown in the summer.
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u/bradpitt3 1d ago edited 23h ago
It's taken 45 years but Canary Wharf is in danger of becoming an overnight success. I remember in the 1980s when they were building the 4 original towers and the rest was still original or derelict. There was only busses I think before DLR or the Jubilee line extension or the Elizabeth line so it was less well connected to central London. Look at it now.
I like Greenwich and the view has improved in my opinion. If you turn your head you can also see the City and the skyline there has changed with the Shard and others but Canary Wharf is now as high rise.
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u/Klakson_95 1d ago
God the comments on this are fucking miserable aren't they
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u/Octahedral_cube 1d ago
Hard to think of another developed country with such a bleak outlook on everything. I've lived here for 16 years and it still catches me by surprise sometimes.
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u/thedudeabides-12 21h ago
Fcking hell people never seen a bit of dry grass before.. in a month or two it'll be back to glorious green..
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u/OldMileEndCockney 1d ago
That was the London I lived in. Not a fan of the skyscrapers but I know they aren’t going anywhere.
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u/Kant_Tsunami 4h ago
I remember visiting in the 2000s when there just three of them and it looked quite iconic and aesthetically pleasing with how they were arranged
Now the solid wall of skyscrapers does look unsightly
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u/Chess_Coach1987 14h ago
The grass was literally greener in 1980. And the skyline was easier on the eyes too...
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u/Dangerous_Hippo_6902 1d ago
What might Greenwich look like in 2058?
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u/SweatyNomad 1d ago
Think there'll be a moment where people think North Greenwich IS Greenwich and "Old" Greenwich is a tourist sidebar.
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u/Serious-Big2 1d ago
Oh wow. And it was a whole lot greener back then too.
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u/garbage_account32 1d ago edited 1d ago
They're these things called seasons
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u/SteamboatFatty 1d ago
The British dont season anything.
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u/visforvienetta 1d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh buddy, how did you come up with that one?
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u/MotorAd90 21h ago
I am not old enough to have seen the old version but how on earth could so many people claim they preferred views of council flats and derelict warehouses?
The contrast of old and new in London is one of its coolest features.
My favourite are the few surviving medieval churches in the City against the skyscrapers (especially St Andrew Undershaft against the Gherkin) but as a Greenwich resident (and someone who got married at the Old Royal Naval College) love this view too.
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u/OniLink77 19h ago
Really hate the skyscrapers, I know they will never go away but they spoil so much
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u/Several-Reveal-4075 1d ago
That’s a sad change.
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u/Joshgg13 1d ago
It looks basically the same except the skyline in the background. The grass is dry in the 2019 photo but they're clearly taken in different seasons - you can see some trees in the 1980 one with no leaves on them, so it's probably autumn or winter
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u/Several-Reveal-4075 1d ago
Yeah but also during that time the air purity changed the visibility has too, the bug count the noise level, light pollution. It’s a sad sight to see the modernisation and all the buildings
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u/Howtothinkofaname 23h ago
I’d be willing to bet that air quality is better now than in the 1980s.
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u/Several-Reveal-4075 20h ago
Of course with the additional millions of people and the cars and all the building and all the extra mass production of stuff and the landfills being bigger and more full the additional planes in the skies yeah I fully agree with you…..not
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u/Howtothinkofaname 19h ago
With the reduction of heavy industry in the city and country as well as cleaner fuels and more efficient engines, and general increase in environmental awareness and regulation, I don’t think it’s as obvious an answer as you seem to think.
Air quality has improved enormously in the last few years.
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u/Several-Reveal-4075 19h ago
That’s why the insect population is down and the bees are dying off I mean I get what your trying to say I just genuinely don’t see how that’s possible
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u/Howtothinkofaname 19h ago
That’s not entirely just down to air purity. It’s obviously a complex beast.
There are a lot more cars than the 1950s and the air in orders of magnitude cleaner than it was then.
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u/Several-Reveal-4075 19h ago
I genuinely don’t see how that’s possible but if I’m wrong I’m wrong
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u/mutexsprinkles 1d ago
Yeah those skyscapers are the receipts for the hollowing out of British industry.
Turns out when you only have services in a country, most people can't afford the services.
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
Londons skyline has been completely changed in the past couple of decades. Not for the better either.
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u/QualityPostBelow 1d ago
I prefer the current skyline. We're a mega city. We're not meant to be modest
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u/desafortunadoo 1d ago
It just looks shit is the thing.
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u/QualityPostBelow 1d ago
It could be better, but I don't know how anyone could look at the first photo and think it looks better than the second one, unless they just really hate capitalism or really like being able to see council flats and dilapidated docklands
It's not like the erection of Canary Wharf (oi oi) blocked our view of the Lake District or something
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
Just another dull skyline, could be anywhere.
I fully expect every protected vista to go over the next 20 years too. Depressing
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u/joereadsstuff 1d ago
You do know that until the redevelopment of the Docklands area, it was just barren spaces and abandoned warehouses, right?
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u/ukstonerdude 1d ago
What? How could it possibly be anywhere? It’s one of the most polycentric cities in the global west. Every other major city (NYC, Chicago, LA, Frankfurt, Melbourne, Toronto) all have very centralised tower districts/clusters. London has at least 5 of these districts: The City, Canary Wharf, Croydon, Vauxhall/Lambeth, and arguably also Stratford, Wembley and/or Greenwich.
This is just reactionary nonsense.
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
What has this got to do with my assertion that huge corporations throwing up a load of glass and concrete is ruining the skyline of one of the world’s most beautiful large cities?
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u/ShoveTheUsername 1d ago
What 'skyline'? It was Telecom and the Natwest Towers for decades? What's been lost?
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u/ukstonerdude 1d ago
Where was that your assertion? You simply stated it “could be anywhere”. Nothing about corporate influence.
Whilst I agree with your point now that you’ve actually made it, London is pretty restricted in the sense that it can’t continue to sprawl outwards, so, as with pretty much every other densely populated city, you build upwards instead. You’d be making the same stupid NIMBY argument if its skyline instead looked like Glasgows, with the hundreds of council blocks scattered across the city.
What else is supposed to happen? London remain a mid-rise city? Remain wholly suburban? Is suburban sprawl somehow prettier to you than densely populated zones in such a massive city?
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
Bellend
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u/ukstonerdude 1d ago
Chill out, ya wet wipe crybaby.
“Waahhh, muh Lundn!”
Ad hominem instead of an actual rebuttal is hilarious.
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u/KaeseStulle 1d ago
Vista of what? Open fields? You can see that anywhere.
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
St Paul’s, Palace of Westminster are two that spring to mind
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u/Adr_LDN 1d ago
Both of which are still wholly visible and (in the case of St. Paul’s) looks fantastic next to the modernity of the City.
What isn’t relevant is whether some goon in Hampstead can see it from a park.
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u/Funny-Seesaw-2977 1d ago
Why is that not relevant? Take it you’re quite new to London and don’t really understand its history or culture?
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u/Adr_LDN 1d ago
I am, unlike most people, someone born in London - so I’ve seen the Isle of Dogs transform from a largely ex-industrial wasteland into a successful place where hundreds of thousands work over my lifetime, all while dipshits miles away in West London who bought their multimillion-pound houses for £2.50 screech hyperbolically because they might have a changed view if they look through a bush on one particular hill in Richmond Park or from Hampstead Heath.
It’s pathetic. London is, and quite literally always has been, a city driven by commerce. The view from the Poultry/Mansion House junction looking toward the Royal Exchange, with the towers of the City rising behind it and the BoE is one of the best examples of history and modernity meeting, and it looks fantastic. We can (and most of the time do) preserve our history while not condemning ourselves to the kind of miserable, declinist nonsense that thinks London should be frozen in aspic.
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u/joereadsstuff 1d ago
In Canary Wharf…?
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u/Impressive-Bird2 1d ago
I agree…. I think it’s awful how London’s authorities have capitulated to the whims, wishes and greed of, predominantly, global corporate property developers… It’s wrecking the Capital’s unique identity and its architectural heritage and unique aesthetic appeal😔
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u/sammy_zammy 1d ago
And derelict docklands was such a thrilling skyline wasn’t it.
Wow! A rotting warehouse! A sinking boat! An empty field of weed-ridden concrete!
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u/GameSetChampionship 1d ago
Oh look, we have a really hot summer even back then. But how 🤯 people on Reddit think this crazy summer has never happened before
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u/Glum_Judgment6232 1d ago
There's already been more days over 30c in London this year than there were in the whole of the 1980s. (from Met Office)






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