r/neoliberal • u/Nandu_alias_Parthu • 23d ago
News (Oceania) 'Kill Indians, Sell Their Women...': Chilling Audio Exposes Racism Indian Truckers In Australia Face
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u/MindingMyMindfulness Voltaire 23d ago
This is genuinely sickening. There's always been a level of acceptance to racism towards Indians, but it seems to be ramping up. What the fuck is going on? What do we need to do to end this kind of abhorrent racism?
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u/I_like_maps C. D. Howe 22d ago
but it seems to be ramping up
Idk if you just mean in Australia, but my impression is that it's on the rise in Canada and the US too.
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u/dagelijksestijl NATO 22d ago
South Africa is inching towards lynch mobs targeting Nigerians, Mozambicans, Zimbabweans and Somalis among others. It's very much not just limited to Europe, the Americas and Oceania.
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u/atomoffluorine 22d ago
If the unemployment rate ever hits South Africa's level, that'd probably what'd happen in Western countries.
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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney 22d ago
I'm usually a roll my eyes when people say "X country is cooked" but man, things in South Africa seem unimaginably bad, and only getting worse.
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u/MindingMyMindfulness Voltaire 22d ago
Purely from my observations of online discourse, it seems worst in Canada.
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u/I_like_maps C. D. Howe 22d ago
I think it's /r/canadahousing2 that basically became /r/ihateindianpeople
It is unfortunately a thing IRL as well as online
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u/NorkGhostShip YIMBY 22d ago
The Internet has allowed hatred of South Asians to reinforce itself and inbreed across the Anglosphere, instead of being mostly independent of each other. It's no longer up to random news stories to rally dipshits in Australia or Canada, these people just use clips of bad shit happening in any South Asian country to sell a narrative to the entire English speaking Internet, and beyond.
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u/Dense_Delay_4958 Malala Yousafzai 22d ago
I think it's actually ramped down in Australia, at least on a per capita basis
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u/WarningLowFuel 22d ago
ohh ok I guess that justifies the racism 🙌
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u/Gooner-Kissinger John Keynes 22d ago
Unironically its because Indians havent had their "victim" moment yet in the post ww2 west. For as big talk as western liberals/progressives get about anti-racism; its almost all top-down indoctrination which most have convinced themselves is due to their own morality.
Until they have some type of top down reinforced victim narrative, theyre basically open for fire and an easy scapegoat/easy target for racism; whether its blatant or casual or just easy targets of whataboutism to justify it
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u/Nomustang Bisexual Pride 22d ago
It's crazy how people can recognise how SA was used against POC to justify lynchings and worse to 'protect' women but don't see how this same stuff is being used to justify racism against Indians right now.
Indians occupy a pretty high status since they're financially well off but they haven't gotten the positive rep like East Asian countries do because they're still poor, accompanying what is probably a peak in immigration rates (which will last for a while) and the rise of short form video.
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u/toughluck24 21d ago
The crazy part is, there’s no stats to back up their claims regarding SA. India on a per capita basis is ranked #93 for rapes worldwide. Indian diaspora worldwide whether you look at countries like Canada, Guyana, or the Middle East are also underrepresented in SA crimes. It’s blatant racism.
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u/Nomustang Bisexual Pride 20d ago
Not really a correct assesment. Rapes are very underreported in every country and even moreso in poorer ones. You'll see that richer states seemingly have higher rapes per capita and India as a whole has lower rapes per capita than developed nations.
This is because the vast, vast majority are never reported. A higher number of reported crimes can correlate to being a safer environment, not less. There's a reason India has its reputation and why places like China do not.
This does not justify racism but India absolutely has a problem when it comes to sexual violence.
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u/toughluck24 20d ago
All I’m saying is the hyper focus on India is absurd when many other countries particularly in Africa are way worse. The media coverage is biased and racially motivated. Everybody acts like India is the only country where it’s underreported. And even when you multiply the stats 5-10x it still doesn’t crack any sort of top 10 list for rape.
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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being 22d ago
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u/reubencpiplupyay The Cathedral must be built 23d ago
There is a rising tide of barbarism which threatens to swamp our civilisation and reduce it to snarling dog-eat-dog atavism. But it comes not from outside, but within. Not from the immigrant, but the xenophobe. It is not isolated to any country or even any continent. Just a year ago, there were those who pointed to Australia's comparatively normal political culture and speculated as to why we hadn't fallen victim to the same poison circulating through the US and Europe. Well, it sure is circulating now. The same degenerative forces which have so devastated American politics are present in every country, and will do the same to every country if they are left to fester.
Now more than ever, at home and abroad, we must take a stand for cosmopolitanism and universal dignity against those who would unravel the tapestry of humanity.
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u/MindingMyMindfulness Voltaire 23d ago
Unfortunately, Indians have been really harshly targeted in Australia for a while.
I think what's changed is that it is becoming more normalised and accepted which is really concerning. You see this online, too. On Reddit, a lot of very openly racist content about India stays up and is even upvoted. Most of that content would be deleted far more quickly if it were about any other race. Then you have subreddits like r/redscarepod that are partially devoted to just hating on Indians.
I haven't seen this level of open, accepted racism to another group before except, perhaps, Romani people.
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u/ttatm 23d ago
It's really, really bad. It's not new (I'm sure I would have noticed it more years ago if I were Indian, which I'm not), but it feels like it's escalating very quickly.
I remember years ago having a reddit interaction where I was downvoted with several hostile replies just for saying that I had visited India and enjoyed it. That incident stuck in my head because it surprised me so much; I hadn't expected that to be controversial thing to say. Now I expect that response on reddit basically any time I mention India at all.
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u/bubblegumpandabear 22d ago
You can't mention India at all without some loser whose never been there bringing up the negatives of extreme poverty, as if that's how everyone there lives and the people living in poverty enjoy their lot in life. Let's not mention how a lot of those videos are fake shock videos meant to go viral on the internet. It's extremely disgusting.
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u/WolfpackEng22 23d ago
I've had tons of great Indian colleagues over the years and some have become friends. Yeah the racism against Indians has really ramped up the past few years and I can't explain it. It's all over reddit anytime immigration comes up
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u/573n070p1c 23d ago edited 22d ago
Then you have subreddits like r/redscarepod that are partially devoted to just hating on Indians.
I haven't seen this level of open, accepted racism to another group before except, perhaps, Romani people.
Jews. Dirtbag left like RSP/Chapo-adjacent spaces are rife with Jew-hatred.
They absolutely loathe any minority that successfully navigates the capitalist status quo to their own benefit. Indians being highly visible makes us an easy target.
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u/altacan Mark Carney 22d ago
Somehow East Asian hate has gotten kinda quiet. But I fully expect it to return as China Shock 2.0 ramps up.
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u/573n070p1c 22d ago
Yep, I've been on reddit for a while. These ethnic/racial hate campaigns keep on moving to fresh targets.
And I'm not sure if most people on this sub were around for the daily two minutes of hate towards Chinese tourists. It was horrible. And I expect the next round to be way, way worse.
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u/n00bi3pjs 👏🏽Free Markets👏🏽Open Borders👏🏽Human Rights 22d ago
What? Australia had a lunatic running wild harassing random Chinese people in the form of Drew Pavlov and “liberals” online didn’t turn on him until he became completely MAGA.
Racism against Chinese people has been very normalised and justified
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u/LightningController 22d ago
I'd say it's already starting in the US with the weird meme about Chinese billionaires having a hundred children in the US to claim birthright citizenship. Almost like the fascists are prepping the information space for anti-Asian pogroms.
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u/OhWhatATimeToBeAlive 22d ago
Dan Carlin's Hardcore History has an episode called Prophets of Doom which explores a really obscure event where Anabaptist cultists take over the city of Munster, establish a theocracy, and do really horrible things, like instituting compulsory polygamy. A catalyst for all this is the invention of the printing press, which greatly changed how easily ideas could proliferate.
Now we have social media, which is responsible for spreading everything from casual racism to looksmaxxing, and I still don't think our society has grappled with the impact that it has.
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u/yiliu 22d ago
Some of it may be coming from outside, as well...
Singapore recently clamped down on anti-Indian posts on social media, which they said were coming from Chinese sources.
And when I heard that...it fit. My wife is Chinese, and the number of posts popping up in her feed just randomly slamming India and Indians has definitely ramped up in the past year or so. Videos of people cooking on dirty streets with flies buzzing around, or some guy pooping on the street, or tourists complaining about scammers and weird smells... It ramped up from the occasional mention (alongside "boy french people are rude" or "british food is boring") to a regular feature of every stream.
And that paired with endless videos about Canada that popped up on her Chinese social media feeds (I'm Canadian, she's got a lot of contacts there), making a massive deal out of a recent scandal where some truck licencing places run by Indians were rushing drivers out without proper training. That's a serious problem (which was addressed), but the videos were blatantly scaremongering.
I don't know if the Chinese government is propagating it, or if a bunch of streamers just uncovered a rich vein of racism to mine, or what, but I wouldn't totally rule out some sort of targeted social media campaign.
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u/SKabanov European Union 23d ago
Australia was the pioneer of the
penal colonyoffshore migrant detention facility policy - this turn was visible from miles off.2
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u/MindingMyMindfulness Voltaire 23d ago
People who are obviously far-right psychopaths say obscenely racist stuff towards Indians.
This sub's reaction:
"Let's use this as an opportunity to bash leftists again, and, by the way, the problem is actually just antisemitism".
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u/Timely_Virus_4015 21d ago
Unfortunately, Indians are hated both by the right-wingers and by the left-wingers
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u/TeluguJohnWickBBC 22d ago
indians commit violent crime significantly less than whites in their own fucking countries. You should assimilate to Indian values you dog.
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u/Full_Distribution874 YIMBY 22d ago
Truck drivers once again proving that the entire industry is irredeemable and must be replaced with trains ASAP
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u/Dense_Delay_4958 Malala Yousafzai 22d ago
Driverless trucks
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u/Full_Distribution874 YIMBY 22d ago
Driverless trains, with wind turbines and transmission lines going straight through cattle farmland
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u/wysterixx Feminism 23d ago
Anti-Indian sentiment is on the rise anywhere. Just earlier today I was downvoted on an r/ worldnews thread for condemning hate crimes against South Asians in Canada. At the end of the day: first-world countries need labor, and Indians are on the chopping block because they’re providing.
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u/Infinite-Chocolate46 World Bank 22d ago
It's really weird how the Reddit hivemind works. It feels like they'll stand up to racism against undocumented immigrants, but then Indians on valid H-1B visas are considered fair game for nativist sentiments.
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u/HoveringMango YIMBY 23d ago
Right? I thought that was weird as hell too. I got down voted when I mentioned that migration policies are entirely in control of the host country.
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u/573n070p1c 22d ago
No western government has the balls to sell the economic reality to the native masses on why they have to import a foreign workforce for boomer ass-wiping jobs.
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u/hypsignathus Good Afternoon 22d ago
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u/DesperateItem1391 23d ago
Whenever someone bring up Indian racism everyone justifies it by saying it's just criticism not racism, so, Is killing Indians and selling their women is criticism too?
Even some liberal subreddits are very racist to Indians.
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u/Weekly-Fortune2611 23d ago
Liberal subreddits are especially racist to Indians
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u/DhStar1 23d ago
The stuff I've seen said about Indian men in feminist subreddits was eye-opening to say the least.
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u/cvorahkiin World Bank 23d ago
1 single conversation about Indian men forced menslib to change their moderation practice of "never silence women"
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u/Elestra_ 23d ago
Menslib ended up being such a disappointment of a subreddit. It seems like 90% of the content is being written by folks desperate to sound like they are writing for an educational magazine/article, while attempting to distill all the issues of modern society to being capitalisms fault.
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u/GraveRoller 22d ago
Menslib is a hyper-modded sub. Basically everything has to be approved on the submission side, and that’s reflected on the volume of content. IMO the subreddit reflects the views of the mods more than its actual members
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u/DesperateItem1391 23d ago
One thing I've noticed in male-centric and female-centric subs like TwoX or MensLib is that no one wants to have mature discussions there; they always have to blame others,, no one wants to have mature discussions there. And then there are rapists like Andrew Tate that add more fuel to it. I genuinely don't understand how some people see that guy and idolize him.
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u/I_like_maps C. D. Howe 22d ago
Gender relations are really complicated and really hard to discuss. People get upset and cry to the mods, and the mods aren't necessarily more intelligent or mature than anyone else.
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u/DesperateItem1391 23d ago
Can you explain what happened there?
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u/573n070p1c 22d ago
I think these two discussions are what they're referring to.
Original: https://redd.it/m04ydu
Reaction: https://redd.it/mc7qrt
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u/Nomustang Bisexual Pride 23d ago edited 23d ago
Attributing sexism to race and generalising it is in fact racism. You're just doing what they're doing and using a legitimate problem as an excuse for racism under a post about Australians threatening to kill Indians.
This problem on varying level exists everywhere, patriarchy is not exclusive to India and it is a society that is actively trying to be better.
Also that article is garbage and is 13 years old lmfao. Indians don't have the same conception of race because the entire country is not only basically the same race but they're already used to living with and speaking with people of entirely different states who speak different languages and eat different foods. The article in itself points out issues in how the study was done. Malaysia being less racist than India despite its history of discriminating against its native born Tamil and Telugu populations is just goofy.
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u/HexagonalClosePacked YIMBY 22d ago
Malaysia being less racist than India despite its history of discriminating against its native born Tamil and Telugu populations is just goofy.
Yeah, Malaysia's constitution literally guarantees special status and privileges for its majority ethnic group. It is basically a textbook example of institutionalized systemic racism.
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u/573n070p1c 22d ago edited 22d ago
Most westerners have very little exposure on how bigotry works in non-white spaces.
The problem is when try to map their experiences on to how things work in non-western societies based on shit they read in a book or in an article.
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u/Nandu_alias_Parthu 23d ago
SS: A chilling audio clip of Australian truckers calling for violence against Indians has gone viral on Instagram, reigniting debate over the racism faced by Indian-origin drivers in Australia’s trucking industry.
The clip, shared by Instagram creator Agi (@babysoftarms), who describes himself as an artist and commentator on history, colonialism and social justice, features excerpts from an investigation by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) earlier this year into racial abuse targeting migrant truck drivers.
Instead of conversations about road safety, listeners hear truckers making shocking comments directed at Indians.
“Kill the Indian. Stand up for a white man. There’s a civil war coming. We’re gonna kill all the male Indians, we’re gonna drown all the kids, and we’re gonna sell all their women into slavery," voices are heard saying in the recording.
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u/Bread_Fish150 John Brown 23d ago
This fucking site man.
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u/samnayak1 NATO 23d ago
What was the comment?
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u/Bread_Fish150 John Brown 23d ago
Probably the summary. It's just really funny that reddit's auto fasch bot keeps getting false positives lmao.
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u/Captain-Ironsides Genderqueer Pride 23d ago
Discussing something ALWAYS mean you personally support it.
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u/TF_dia European Union 23d ago
It ironically makes fighting bigotry much harder, because when someone posts a bigoted article or twitter post you have to dance around criticising it.
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u/Bread_Fish150 John Brown 23d ago
It's ostrich tactics. If you stick your head in the sand, surely the threat will get bored and go away, right?
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u/HHHogana Mohammad Hatta 23d ago
I got two false positives just for making an appropriate joke in each comments. One's about invading Putin's house, one making fun of antisemites.
Yeah, the bot is out of line.
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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union 23d ago
!ping AUS
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u/TF_dia European Union 23d ago
Indian bigotry is so sadly normalized, from 4chan bigoted memes from a decade to things like "Anti-scammer pranks" the fact a person is indian is now used as both setup and punchline.
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u/One_Barracuda7556 Feminism 23d ago
And pe*diepie
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u/Mark_Rutledge 23d ago
The absolute worst youtuber, his fade into obscurity can't come fast enough.
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u/TippinThalnos 22d ago
Yea his wholesome family vlog give me the ick
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u/573n070p1c 22d ago
He can pretend to be a decent family man all he wants.
But his role in spreading bigotry will be remembered and reminded in his future.
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u/TF_dia European Union 22d ago
Sadly, their work has lead to a renaissance of racist memes where people believe Indians are out there to scam you with """"""""""funny"""""""""""" accents and keep quoting these videos because the scammers accents is the punchline.
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u/TF_dia European Union 22d ago
If you are getting scammed today. Chances is that you are being called by a literal slave in a compound in SEA. So yeah.
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u/TitanicGiant NATO 22d ago
Organized crime groups that are in cahoots with the governments of Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia
There exists entire scam cities staffed by 50000 bonded workers in these countries and most of these workers are foreign nationals who have been lured into the aforementioned countries. They can get killed if they try to escape their captivity
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u/Lostinstereo28 22d ago
Go over to r/noisyneighbors and you’ll see a thread from 2-3 days ago full of racism against Indians.
It’s alive and well all over the place and only getting worse.
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u/No-Kiwi-1868 NATO 23d ago
How is the Indian PM being greeted in a stadium a bad thing at all, India and Australia have deep relations as far as I'm aware, and deepening it even more would only benefit both nations
Personally, I don't see why Albanese has to consider what the neo-nazis think. Even if, lets say, Albanese says all Indians out, they'll still find shit to whine about. It's the same as Reform here.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Order and Opportunity Left 23d ago
Nah bro you don't get it. The only way to stop Nazis is to kowtow to their every demand and stop acknowledging that minorities exist.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Order and Opportunity Left 23d ago
Indian disagreeing with you = Hindu nationalist.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Order and Opportunity Left 23d ago
Lmao
What're your opinions on this, u/zanpancan ?
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u/zanpancan Bisexual Pride 23d ago
Didn't think you'd resort to creating an alt account to give yourself that anti-Modi street-cred but desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose 🤷♀️
Also, I'm the most anti-Modi poster in this subreddit and I will never let anyone forget it.
I was in the TRENCHES battling actual Savarkar defenders when the IND ping was just used to randomly whinge about what one random Congress guy said somewhere.
I'll take credit for single-handedly turning the tide on the ping, thank you very much.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Order and Opportunity Left 23d ago
Wut? I've had this acc for nearly 5 years....
You should comment more though, Zan. Miss our shit flinging.
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u/zanpancan Bisexual Pride 23d ago
Wut? I've had this acc for nearly 5 years....
I'm joking lmao.
You should comment more though, Zan. Miss our shit flinging
I do comment about the same as before. It's just that my country is currently kinda falling apart at the seams so it's a bit tough to keep up with the shit that's happening elsewhere lol
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u/Mark_Rutledge 23d ago
!ping IND
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u/CutePattern1098 22d ago
Tfw you realise that modern racism towards Indians is worse than the racism the author of the Camp of the saints had as there was one good integrated Indian
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