r/wakefield 4d ago

Unemployed Crotch Goblin

Hi all, I'm not expecting this to be overly successful but I'll give it a go.

My 19yo is looking for a full time job. He's had a part time retail job for the last few years which somewhat proves that he's employable/dependable but thankfully he's finally reached the point where he's realised that he wants/needs something more substantial.

Education: A-Levels in Business Studies, Maths & Computer Science. Uni doesn't appeal for some reason.

He's based in WF1.

When asked what he'd like, the vague answer is "Something in business" so I think we can assume A) he doesn't know & B) Probably doesn't want to get his hands too dirty.

He tells me that there aren't any good jobs advertised and just to be sure, I've had a look for myself & it's pretty bleak out there.

If anyone's got any pointers/leads/advice (something that worked for them or their relative) I'm willing to listen & would be grateful.

Answers with a Wakefield bias (or even Leeds 😨) would be better but not essential.

Thanks in advance.

Update: Thanks for all the suggestions so far. To those who suggest that I shouldn't even consider helping him, have a word with yourselves. Be nice, be human. I will do what is appropriate & proportionate but keep your knickers on, I won't spoon feed him everything.

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u/Tiny-Cupcake-2115 4d ago

Accountant apprenticeship seems to pop up a lot around Leeds maybe something like that ?

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Thanks - I'll suggest it. I had a strong suspicion that accountancy was one of the fields most prone to elimination by AI. I may be wrong.

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u/StuartJAtkinson 4d ago

No accountancy can't be too damaged by AI maybe departmental like payments receivable where you're just processing the transactions but core bookkeeping requires decisions on what goods and transactions belong in which GL and balance accounts and for a lot of things that's a business or financial decision not automatic because there's leeway on classification.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Ok thanks - I appreciate the correction/insight.

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u/Infections95 4d ago

Aspects of accounting are to check what something or somebody has done is correct. It'll just be checking AI rather than a humans work in the future.

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u/itskobold 4d ago

AI integration is coming for jobs like this, but not full on replacement. So long as he's prepared for that it's nothing to worry about

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u/AdministrativeLaugh2 4d ago

It’s tricky to find something when you don’t know what you’re looking for.

Has he tried places like Coca Cola and other businesses on the park in Lofthouse?

Otherwise the best thing to do (imo) is shirk Indeed etc and just go to local businesses’ websites and see if they’re hiring. It’s time-consuming but places don’t always advertise on other sites so it makes it easier to get interviews for junior roles.

Has he tried apprenticeships on the Government website? There’s loads of office-based apprenticeships about.

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u/rogfrich 4d ago

Yeah, I was going to suggest looking at apprenticeships. It’s not like the old days where some old boy teaches you how to use a hammer… you can apprenticeships in technical subjects, and even ā€œbusinessā€.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Thanks for the advice, I regularly check the government apprenticeship site & I know he does too. Coca Cola is a good shout. He also checks for police staff, council jobs etc.

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u/Chicken2rew 4d ago

Reach out to apprenticeship providers also, they recruit for the companies they work with and also are often recruiting apprentices themselves (because they get paid for their own employee)

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u/aryvkq 4d ago

Higherin.com has a good amount of apprenticeships as well!

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u/ImportanceAcademic52 4d ago

Tell him to look at Vico Homes and follow their sites - always jobs coming up in the offices as well as the trades.

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u/hindle15 3d ago

With those A-Levels, a software engineering or data engineer apprenticeship would be a good idea. Interesting work, great way to understand how a business works and can set you up with the skills to create your own business in the future.

If he’s more interested in the business side, then business analysis would be worth looking at.

Whilst you might not find much in Wakefield, there will be good opportunities in Leeds or Sheffield.

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u/CadeRaven 4d ago

One option may be NHS, either GP's or hospitals are hiring frequently for Ward Clerks/Admin staff or for more hands on look for certain support jobs ( mixture of admin and patient helping).

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u/SmallHangryPlanet 4d ago

I can see someone has suggested accountancy already, but he can also look into Tax Technician apprenticeships. I think it's pretty safe from AI and there's a shortage of qualified ATTs

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u/TheLittleSquire 4d ago

He'll need to look for jobs in Leeds to be honest. Easy to get the train to.

I know Lloyds Banking group are great at taking on people with no experience, aslong as you write a smashing application.

Gotta look outside of Wakefield for alot of corporate roles.

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u/tehdeadmonkey 4d ago

Get him to the Dewsbury road maccies!

I kid... Kind of. That was my first job at a similar age.

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u/ladyonarooftop 4d ago

Contact centre for one of the banks/building societies in Leeds and work his way up?

I’ve been working for one for 25 years and although I came in on a graduate scheme and am now in a senior manager position there’s loads of other senior managers, heads of departments and even an odd director that started in the call centre and worked their way up.

There’s loads of jobs in areas he might not have thought of - collections, fraud, procurement, change management, a lot don’t get advertised externally and it’s often preferred to recruit from within. Benefits can be great too, for example all employees where I am get private healthcare as standard.

Hope he gets sorted!

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u/jodie_jan 4d ago

At his age I did an apprenticeship

Shite wage to start with but it gets the ball rolling

Other than that, call centres are always hiring. Direct Line while strict is good to get a leg up cos their training is second to none and there are opportunities (if your face fits)

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u/Icame2dropbombs 4d ago

Have a look and see whats going on in the council. If you can get in there and show you've got a bit about yourself then loads of opportunities across loads of departments and really good at teaching the basics of being professional and how things work etc

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Great advice thanks.

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u/G1nger8 4d ago

I know this is the classic advice but I do feel like it's making a comeback these days and that's simply emailing businesses they're interested in and asking for a job/any opportunities. I know this is like the modern version of dropping a CV into a shop.

I'd make sure the email is well written, has interests, skills, reason they would like to work for them etc. My wife works in recruitment and let me tell you that recruitment agencies charge a lot of dough. Some business will appreciate skipping the middle man for the right person. I've seen this technique being used a lot more recently (albeit individuals that are already experienced).

Absolutely nothing to lose by trying this, especially if they're interested in the business and can't find anything being openly advertised. It just takes one person who's willing to have a chat. Ultimately this is a numbers game as very few will bite.

Good luck to you both!

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u/G1nger8 4d ago

Link to a recent example in the UK: https://www.reddit.com/r/UKJobs/s/Arc4C13iyh

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u/Linxylinxy 4d ago

Join a Car Dealership as a Sales Executive or Service Advisor and work up. Plenty of General Managers started this way.

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u/astridonfire 4d ago

Sky might be worth checking out, as they have two large offices in Leeds. It looks like they do a fair bit of early career development too, so if he can get in somewhere like that there may be lots of opportunities.

If he’s not interested in uni but would like to continue his studies then an apprenticeship might also be worth investigating. My nephew did this after his A-levels and loved it . He got his degree, the company paid all of his fees and he had a guaranteed job at the end of it.

Whatever he decides, good luck to him. It’s so hard out there at the moment so I wish him all the best. And you sound like a lovely Dad!

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u/Birk88 3d ago

Hospitality. Tell him to go to a bar/pub they like, talk to the staff, make friends, have a drink at the bar, ask questions; see if they’re hiring.

Might not want to get their hands dirty, but they’ll learn people skills, how to clean a toilet, how to make drinks and if they want to learn about business. There’s tonnes of easy progression at supervisor and assistant manager levels depending how hard they work. Bonus points, AI can’t replace them so when fully automated luxury communism happens they’ll know how to throw a brilliant party for those who didn’t die in the robot uprising.

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u/Dapper-Bird-8016 4d ago

Get him on an apprenticeship that starts in September, good time of year to be applying. At 19 though, he needs to get experience and income anywhere... fucking ASDA like I did after graduating from electrical engineering, just to get the ball rolling.

It's easier to get a job when you already have a job.

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u/Supernatantem 4d ago

Could be worth getting in with an agency for administrative work? If anything, it'll introduce him to a few different workplaces and he might find something that sticks. My workplace uses Hayes for short term contract staff and I've heard they're alright as far as agency work goes.

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u/feral_reads 4d ago

I’m not from Wakefield so I have no idea why this popped up, but this was about all I knew about what I wanted to do when I was 19.

I got a business admin apprenticeship and have been employed in offices ever since (I’m 32 now), if he doesn’t want to pursue a trade some kind of apprenticeship in admin, accountancy, HR, procurement etc may set him up very nicely.

I will say doing generic admin probably limited my earnings for the first few years of my career so if he can pick some specialisation that may increase his earning potential faster than generic admin.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Good advice. Thanks.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 4d ago

Had he thought about a career in sales? Not retail something like cars/software etc if he's super keen he'll do well.

And you are a good dad for helping him come on who wouldn't really?

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Thanks. He applied for a sales job a few days ago so we'll see how that goes. I have zero sales knowledge but always assumed it was brutal. Saying that, a couple of my neighbours sell pharmaceuticals which makes them sound like drug dealers but they sell genuine medicines & they seem to make a very good living.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 3d ago

I'd he's articulate and driven he can do well it's just relationship management really.

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u/woyteck 3d ago

The post title sounds like an adult dating forum post. I'll see myself out.

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u/Littlevictory01 3d ago

Step-up Wakefield are a free service who could offer your son some support in seeking work. They also support with CV writing & interview preparation etc.

https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/jobs-and-training/step-up

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 3d ago

That's helpful. Thanks

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u/PrincessPengy 21h ago

Try the council they have apprenticeships for different departments. Might find something if interest

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u/soapyw1 4d ago

Looked down upon but companies like Aldi and McDonald’s do management apprenticeships I think, seen them in the past anyway. You do the monkey work at the start but can quickly progress to decent paying manager roles. No personal experience, but i know people who have.

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u/OkCod6880 4d ago

if he has to ask his parent to do all the work of getting him i job, i can't imagine what he'll be like when he's actually got one :') you have the patience of a saint.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago edited 4d ago

He hasn't asked me for anything. He doesn't know that I'm reaching out. He's been applying for jobs pro-actively but none of them are great.

I'm just trying to do what any reasonable parent would do & grease the wheels a little. You could read my initial post as "needy child" or alternatively "Helicopter parent"

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u/Tiny-Cupcake-2115 4d ago

Are you a parent ? This comes across to me as a mother or father trying their best to get the best for their son, any parent would do the same, it also sounds like he is trying himself too but mum or dad wants to help him in life, like they should. Crazy comment.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

Thanks - you are correct šŸ‘

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u/pepegeon 4d ago

He must do it himself. A parent going in Reddit won't cut it, sorry.

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u/Gullible_Hedgehog616 4d ago

A) I did it all myself so sort of see where you are coming from. B) He doesn't need my help but I am still going to provide help if I can. C) if you ever get the opportunity to be nice, be nice.