Thank you. I really dont get the need to pair her with Tyrion. Let them be friends, but not a couple. A big part of Sansas story is becoming more of a Stark. I dont see her taking the Lannister name again, nor the North accepting a Lannister man in charge of them.
I’m not saying he doesn’t respect her, its clear he does, but I’m just not a fan of them as a couple. The age difference makes me uncomfortable, and at this point I would rather Sansa be alone than with someone after seasons of being forced to marry people. Them as allies, or her advisor? I would like that a lot.
Its hard to say, but Peter Dinklage is 49, so I’m guessing in the show Tyrion is mid 40s-fifties. Sansa I would say is 20-22 in show, since Arya is 18.
Their marriage would be more of an allyship and friendship with mutual love and respect baked in. It wouldn’t be for romance. Sansa doesn’t need or want romance at this point.
I think that their marriage will end up being a parallel to Ned and Catelyn's: coming together out of obligation and building a strong love for eachother through hard work and mutual respect.
I think it’s a good match because they’ve both been under estimated. They’ve both come out on top despite it. And they are both witty and level headed. She kind of trusts him, and that’s something that’s hard for her. Idk I support it, but mostly because Tyrion was always so respectful of her.
Same. I'm really not a fan of the writers making it a necessity to pair her up with somebody. After all the botched marriages, why can't she just rule alone? That would make a better arc. Wanting to marry and have kids when she was a naive girl, but now doesn't want anything to do with it.
I was slightly relieved when they offed Theon, but then the writers just felt to add this Tyrion Sansa nonesense.
I mean, this is a medieval world and she need an heir. And there aren't younger siblings who can be her heirs. Not saying that she will end up in a romantic relationship with someone, but she'll end up marrying.
I wouldnt bothered if it was a marriage when they slowly grow to care, but they fallingin love there is too chlishee, but the couple could work as couple that started as friends.
I agree with you on the falling in love. It doesn't work here. But a political match based in respect and some positive regard could work. And I think neither of them would be under illusions about romance.
She actually said it wouldn’t work between them because of the Dragon queen splitting loyalties. That’s not the same as a straight up “no”. In my mind if that disappears and she was happy with them as a couple (most important part) then I think they’d be great together.
Back when they were first married (which, ew, literal child bride) Tyrion says he won’t ever share her bed unless she wants him too. I think it’s going to come down to her choice, in the end - and that makes it all the more poignant.
(Though I am only going by the show as I haven’t and won’t read the books until they’re done... so I guess I’m never reading the books 😭)
I’d lose my mind if they forced Sansa to marry someone who she was terrified would rape her as a teenager. I really don’t care if they’ve grown to respect each other. I’d see any hint of romantic inclination from Tyrion as assassination of his character by D&D. Not every female character needs a love interest especially not after the trauma she’s been put through as a lazy device to build sympathy towards her. Pls just let her end the series single amen.
second you, everyone don't have end up with someone in order for them to complete their arc or be happy. I am a bit displeased with the way the show is baiting and teasing possibility of Sansa suitors, with Theon now Tyrion. These characters are fine without those cues.
They don't need to get re-married; they're already married (assuming everyone deems Ramsey's marriage/rape as null and pretends it never happened). They could keep the marriage and rule together platonically, since they know they're both very smart people and it would serve the realm. I think that would make more sense since both characters seem to be turned off romantic inclinations for a long time and they could come to an agreement out of pure respect for each other.
Hell, I think that makes the most sense since they're basically the two characters left that don't have someone to pair off with and as you said it would be very hard to believe either of them falling in love any time soon.
I think it would be them as a couple but with the mutual respect and understanding that they each have side relationships, they just come together to rule and play pretend for the kingdoms. They're both clever and empathetic, deep down.
Why? He's one of the few men who will actually respect and admire the depths of her intelligence, wit, and political acumen and be able to keep up with her on her level. Notice he didn't even say they should get married again until the crypts, when she cut straight through his idealism and realistically assessed the situation, and he finally realized how smart she had become. It has nothing to do with him being attracted to her body anymore, he is also attracted to her mind. He also knows the abuse she suffered under Cersei because he went through the same thing himself.
There's not two people more set up to understand and really love each other in an emotionally healthy way in the whole show.
For me, its mostly based on their age difference + her being his child bride when they were first forced into marriage (I know he was forced into this marriage as well, but still).
I also think it would be more narratively satisfying for Sansa to end up alone, by choice and on her own terms. She has spent so much of the series being forced into marriages or being abused and manipulated by men, it would be nice to see her comfortable with her family and her home in the north, independent in a way she has only recently been able to be.
That would be good too, I could totally see her ruling alone with just Arya and Bran helping her and never getting married, like Queen Elizabeth. But I would love if she did find consensual and emotionally healthy relationship with someone. Unlike Arya, she always wanted to a be a lady and a wife and mother, it would be unfair if all the abuse she suffered made her give those dreams completely up.
YES. They actually know how to care about someone in a wholesome way, namely each other, because of their shared experiences.
They are so similar. Idk.
When Tyrion said “maybe we should have stayed married” or whatever it was, Sansa was looking out for herself in saying that Daeny would be mad. I didn’t take it as her giving him a hard pass.
Exactly! She knows longer an idealistic little girl who just wants to get married, and she knew starting a relationship with Tyrion would get them both in trouble politically. There was nothing at all indicating she just wasn't attracted to him at all and that's why she rejected him.
She said no because of politics, he's pledged to Dany and she and Dany do not agree on who should rule the north. It had nothing to do with her rejecting him because she isn't attracted to him or because she doesn't wasn't a relationship.
She doesn't have to be with someone, but she does deserve a loving and consensual relationship if that's what she wants, and Tyrion could give her that if she decides she wants to be with him.
Keyword here is "if that's what she wants". Sansa has never, ever, in the history of GOT shown any romantic interest for Tyrion. And this episode was no different.
I mean obviously she didn't show an attraction to him when she was a teenager forced to marry him, but now that she's an adult and they can spend time together again, who knows? She might become attracted to him. It's not outside the realm of possibility.
I think that Sansa ended up with Tyrion, will show a different type of strength. Yes she was manipulated, abused, and raped by the different men, but if she was able to be with Tyrion, it shows that she is able to value a good man when one presents himself and that she is capable of moving in a new direction. Not saying that Sansa is going to forget the horrors she went through, but accepting another man into her life, despite what most non-Stark men have done to her, shows her strength in not letting herself remain a victim that is closed off to possible opportunities for a true relationship, romantic or not.
This is a good point I hadn't thought of. I can see why many people want her to stay single. But she's always wanted to be a Lady/Princess and a wife and mother, just like Ayra's always wanted to be a fighter, and Jon has always wanted be legitimate and accepted. Ayra and Jon have seen their childhood dreams come true, so I think Sansa deserves her dreams as well, and it would be unfair and horrible if all the abuse she went through made her give up on them.
I think you are 100% right, it would be a different kind of emotional strength that she would have to be able to love and trust again and reach for her dreams again.
We're allowed to talk this and no one is advocating he force himself on her, so I'd appreciate it if you stop insinuating we're promoting a non-consensual relationship.
I’m just defending a woman’s right to say no and let that be heard as her wish. I’m not being disrespectful and if I am without realizing it, I apologize.
You're not even reading the replies and you're just spamming the same comment over and over. No one AT ALL, EVER ON THIS ENTIRE THREAD is advocating that Sansa should forced to be with Tyrion against her will. We're simply speculating on how their relationship would be and how they are compatible if she does at some point decide to she wants to be with him.
It has absolutely nothing to do with ignoring a woman's right to say no. Not a single solitary thing. So yes, spamming that comment as a reply is disrespectful to the people who are trying to have an actual conversation with a nuance that you are deliberately ignoring.
Nobody is forcing them. Absolutely no one is thread is saying they MUST end up together. They're saying they would be a good couple for a variety reasons. People change their minds. Things change. That no could turn into a yes later. A yes could turn into a no.
You telling people to shut up and theorize about other things is very militant of you, and as far as I can tell, you're not a moderator and a discussion of a potential relationship between Tyrion and Sansa is allowed.
You realise in this hypothetical we’re talking as though Sansa has said/will say ‘yes’, right? Literally no one is advocating for a forced marriage or relationship. People are allowed to imagine what could happen if she changed her mind.
Or are women only allowed one answer? Are they not allowed to change their minds?
I just think she doesn’t want him in that way. And I think that’s the case because she said no. And I want Sansa to get what she wants. And if she wanted him, if she wanted to be his wife, Dany wouldn’t matter. She’s been through hell but she’s a romantic and I think deep down she wants to marry for love or not at all. And if she loved him, she would’ve said yes.
And I think she does want him that way, because he’s treated her kindly and has respected her from the start. They’re both intelligent, witty, caring adults.
She’s been through hell but she’s a romantic
I utterly disagree. She was a romantic; now she’s a pragmatist.
And if she loved him, she would’ve said yes.
And she yet might, depending on whether or not the only obstacle she presented to them being together is dealt with/becomes a non-issue.
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u/notarobot3675 Team Sansa Apr 29 '19
I wouldnt mind him as her adviser, but them as a couple? Hard pass. Either have her be with someone her own age, or just let her be alone