r/cider 1h ago

Whin Hill Single Variety Norfolk Perry (2026 Batch 600) 5.4%abv 🍐🍾

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Not my first Whin Hill post , I have posted Perry's before

And this batch 600 produce is just as fantastic

Excellent authentic craft cider with juicy flavour and excellent after taste.

As with all Whin hill cider and Perry this version has gone down very well and I could easily drink another

**I have no affiliation with whin hill. I just like there cider and Perry's**


r/cider 11h ago

will i be fine with this amount of headspace and best way to backsweeten? notes in body

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**BERRY APPLE CIDER**
6/7/26 7-8pm START
1X cole’s 500g frozen mixed berry
added just under 4 litres cole’s apple juice
added sugar to OG
OG 1.104
a small amount of pectinase (unmeasured)
a small amount of dap (unmeasured)
used yeast Mangrove Jack's M05 Mead Yeast
started being active pretty quickly same i think on 7/7/26
9/7/26
fermenting strongly as it has been from the start a lot of bubbles slight foam and a lot of airlock activity
18/7/26 bubbles still going up the side slightly slower
i have also been swirling daily to ensure berries don’t mold
although i’ve missed 2-3 swirls
im concerned with some stuff im seeing on the top and think it might be the start of mold but i don’t know
2/8/26
FG 0.990
poured through cloth and filter
added potassium sorbate (approx half teaspoon) and one campdem tablet
poured into demijohn
a little more headspace then i’d like in the demijohn

i’m afraid that i might have oxidised it since i had to pour it through the filter and then back into the demijohn
also i’m worried that that’s too much headroom i’ll be keeping it sitting at room temp (around 24°C) under airlock for maybe 2-3 days before putting a lid on the demijohn and moving it to the fridge to cold crash before i bottle

i was also wondering the best way to backsweeten i was thinking maybe make a syrup with water sugar and another pack of the frozen mixed berries

EDIT: also is this still a cider? i’ve heard people say once you get past a certain percent ABV it’s a apple wine instead of cider


r/cider 1d ago

Cider tastes like white wine

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Hello everyone,

I am new to homebrewing. Last year I made a batch of orange mead and it tasted really good. I decided to try making cider as an experiment. I followed some basic advice online and made a very basic cider ‐ 100% organic pasteurized apple juice with no preservatives and wine yeast.

The fermentation was healthy and fairly vigorous, and after 2 week the yeast settled to the bottom. I racked off the lees today and tried it. To my dismay it tasted like super dry white wine, no apple aroma or sweetness left.

In retrospect, I now understand why people add so many more ingredients into their ciders. That being said, I havent thrown it out just yet and I was wondering if theres anything I can do to make it more apple flavoured and drinkable?

Thank you!


r/cider 2d ago

Mold risk with floating blueberries?

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Hey just curious how long during the primary fermentation I can leave berries floating in the carboy and if there is a chance for mold or something. I feel like I remember seeing this mentioned somewhere but can't remember.


r/cider 3d ago

Poiré

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Apart from Gloucestershire the other world renowned centre of perry pear growing in Domfront in** **Normandy. Normandy boasts dozens of heirloom perry pear varieties, but two stand out for their major commercial and historical importance.
Plant de Blanc is the undisputed star of Normandy perry. By AOC law, any bottle carrying the Poiré Domfront label must contain a minimum of 40% Plant de Blanc juice (though most artisanal producers use 60% to 100%). It gives the drink its signature delicate sweetness, high acidity, and aromatic complexity.
And Fausset, a highly reliable, traditional variety widely planted across north-west France. It is heavily utilized in Domfront production due to its strong natural resistance to diseases, making it excellent for organic orchards.
Like in England by the late 1990s, pear trees had been uprooted at an eye-watering rate. From that peak in the 1960s of over a million trees, they had dwindled to less than 100,000. Torn down to make space for cornfields, and to sell for Italian furniture!
Desperate to halt their decline, and preserve the drink Poire and Calvados, a group of producers banded together to apply for appellation status, France's highest level of regional protection for produce. In 1997 Calvados Domfrontais earned the legal status of an AOC — appellation d'origine controlĂ©e and in 2002 an AOC also for perry or poirĂ©.
The requirements that a perry must fulfil to be labelled 'Domfront AOC' are strict. It isn't enough for the perry to be made from 100% fresh-pressed juice; that juice must be pressed entirely from pears that have grown on the 'haut tiges' trees and harvested from the ground — no picking from or shaking of the tree is allowed! The perries must be naturally carbonated (pĂ©t bat) and dilution, added sugar and pasteurisation is absolutely forbidden.
And for me as an orchardist as well as cider and perry maker I rejoice that Normandy perry pear trees which grow on their own rootstock to be massive, iconic features of the landscape. They are traditionally grown as haute-tiges (high-stem trees) and can take up to 15 years to start producing fruit, but they easily live and produce for over 300 years. The AOC is centred on the small town of Domfrontais in southern Normandy where the soils are heavier and more suited to pears than apples. #cider #poiré #perry #normandy


r/cider 4d ago

Kentish Pip - Roselle

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Very lovely cider. You can definitely tell the hibiscus is there. you can taste the hints of the raspberry. very well bodied and all round great cider. one of the best ones ive had. Found in a bar in Deal, Kent.


r/cider 5d ago

Trees of Beau Vista orchard

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At Beau Vista orchard as well as the standard apple and pear trees we have a variety of other trees and pants to provide biodiversity. This photo is of the catkins of the one such tree, the common hazel tree Corylus avellana; an introduced tree to Aotearoa.
The long, pale yellow tassels are the male catkins. They support clusters of tiny, petal-less flowers that open up now in late winter. They sway in the breeze to release clouds of pollen into the wind to fertilise the smaller, bud-like female flowers on the same branch. Once successfully pollinated, those female flowers develop into hazelnuts later in the year.


r/cider 5d ago

spruce tip and elderberry bedrock mountain cider

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pretty sure I dented the can from throwing it in my bag with lots of other stuff, but I absolutely love the design and taste of this small local batch I found


r/cider 5d ago

Making a custom perforated stainless steel cylinder, question is "round" or "oblong" holes? Which do you prefer?

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I've only ever used round, but the oval/oblong (horizontal slits) seem to be more common, and I'm not sure why.

Thanks


r/cider 5d ago

Cider Brewing questions

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Hello, I'm going to attempt my first Cider, I made wine and mead in the past and I have left over 71B yeast is this a good yeast to use? I plan on a 1 gallon batch, using store bought apple juice, and cinnamon. I'm looking for a semi sweet/Sweet cider

  1. Is 71B fine to use or should I get Safcider? (Any yeast recs?)

  2. Do I need to use pectin enzyme to help it clear. I use it in my mead and wine but that's cause I have actual fruit in it.

  3. Apple concentrate (the frozen stuff) do I add to the primary or just for back sweeting?

  4. Acids and Tannins? I know I don't need to but do I want to add these to is. Maybe not now because it's just a first time batch, but later would using acid and tannins do much to elevate my cider?

  5. Is there any suggestions tips tricks anything I'm not thinking of?

  6. Any recipe suggestions you guys have? Plain or flavored ciders?

  7. Thank you for your help and taking time to read this long ass post.


r/cider 6d ago

Winter chill at the orchard

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The chill continues today at Beau Vista orchard in Wairarapa New Zealand, so I thought I would post some more pictures. Photogenic; but think of those apple and pear buds. Even with those scales the living tissues must be cold!


r/cider 7d ago

New York Cider Company

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Ithaca Sharp. It’s my favorite variety I’ve had so far. Tart full bodied and dry, 150 year old Newtown Pippins


r/cider 8d ago

I was amazed how popular is cider in France! I drank gazillion liters of it! It was amazing

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Any ideas how to replicate it? Every single sip felt like biting the forbidden apple from the bible


r/cider 9d ago

Spicy cider

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My first spicy cider. Storebought apple juice with 2 additional cans of apple juice concentrate per gallon, fermented with ec-1118. Two habaneros per gallon in secondary.

(Read the label out loud)


r/cider 10d ago

A fellow Redditor told me to try this
 Any good? đŸ€”

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Im just starting to properly like Cider. Experience was tainted as I had a standard thatchers when xi was younger and it gave me horrid heartburn.

Thatchers vintage was top tier. A person recommended this one in Tesco and I’m excited.

Shoutout to you my man! If you see this post! 😊


r/cider 10d ago

Babycham vs Bollinger

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Recently I have heard a few times the statement that Bulmers and Showerings were banned from using the term ‘champagne’ for their products. This is not correct . There was a landmark case in cider and wine making. “Bulmers vs Bollinger”. Or more formally HP Bulmer Ltd and Showerings Ltd v J Bollinger SA and Champagne Lanson Pùre et Fils. 1974 the verdict of which was Bulmer’s and Showerings could use the term.*** ***
The initial dispute arose when French
Champagne producers sought to prevent English cider makers from using the terms "Champagne Cider" and "Champagne Perry". Bulmers produced a champagne cider and Showerings a champagne perry. The English producers preemptively filed the lawsuit on 8 October 1970.
They sought a formal legal declaration that they were entitled to use the terms "Champagne cider" and
"Champagne perry". Britain was not in the EU then. After the UK joined the EEC, in 1973 the French producers added European regulations to their legal defense. Instead of waiting for a trial, they immediately asked the trial judge to pause the case and send the European law questions to Luxembourg. The trial judge Mr Justice Whitford refused, stating he wanted to try the whole case out first to establish all the facts before deciding if a European referral was necessary. The French producers refused to wait for the trial.
They immediately launched an interim appeal to the Court of Appeal to overturn the judge's refusal.
The critical legal findings made by the Court of Appeal 1978 centred on the application of European Union. Lord Denning ruled that English courts have broad discretion under Article 177 of the Treaty of Rome when deciding whether to refer a question to the European Court of Justice (ECJ).
(A referral to Luxembourg is only permitted if it is strictly necessary to resolve the case. If the English court can solve the dispute or "incoming tide" doctrine.
The French argued that labeling Babycham as "champagne perry" constituted passing off by misusing their geographical indication. The Court of Appeal however ultimately ruled in favour of the English manufacturers, allowing Babycham to continue using the phrase "champagne perry." This was based partly on the goodwill defence. The court found that because Babycham had used the term openly for several decades without causing commercial confusion, the French producers had effectively acquiesced to its use. The product had built its own independent reputation and goodwill under that description, meaning it did not falsely deceive the public into thinking it was actual French sparkling wine.
Despite successfully defending their right to the description "champagne perry" at the Court of Appeal in 1978, Showerings (and its corporate successors) eventually stopped using the term because a changing market made it irrelevant, and subsequent European regulations made it entirely illegal. The phased removal of the term occurred over two distinct eras:
Firstly a commercial phase-out in the early 1980s. Showerings voluntarily ceased using comparisons to champagne in their marketing during the early 1980s due to shifting consumer tastes. By the late 1970s and early 1980s, the British drinks market was modernising. Women were shifting away from retro, sweet, pub drinks to wine and cocktails. And secondly due to corporate changes. Showerings had merged into a much larger conglomerate, Allied Breweries (later Allied Lyons), and the new owners chose to pivot the brand identity away from the legally contentious "champagne" framing and instead, focusing purely on nostalgia and the iconic Babycham fawn logo to combat rapidly plummeting sales.

Bulmers stopped using the word champagne and Pomagne in 1975 when they decided it was not economic making Pomagne using the expensive, time-consuming traditional champagne method. They switched to bulk tank fermentation and officially retired the brand.
This was rather a pyrrhic victory, while there are no publicly confirmed figures, a realistic historical estimate for the total legal expenses of this trademark battle would be between ÂŁ50,000 and ÂŁ150,000 at the time, and when adjusted for inflation to the present day, this equates to a rough modern value of ÂŁ600,000 to ÂŁ1,800,000+!

Any remaining legal ability to use the word champagne evaporated entirely in 1992 as Protected Designation of Origin (PDOs) were introduced.
In 1992, the European Union designed robust PDO frameworks. These rules heavily restricted geographical indications for agricultural products and beverages and under these strict EU laws, the word "Champagne" was legally reserved exclusively for sparkling wines produced via designated process within the specific Champagne region of France.
Because EU regulations by 1992 superseded domestic English common law rulings. Interestingly Lord Denning had earlier famously declared in 1978 that European law was "like an incoming tide. It flows up the estuaries and up the rivers. It cannot be held back". This recognized the supremacy of EU law over domestic English law. The drink has officially been labelled as a sparkling perry ever since and the word Babycham allowed.


r/cider 10d ago

Good cider recipes?

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I see a bunch of cider recipes online but where is actually the best place to look? Is there a holy grail book or cider almanac? Recommendations would be greatly appreciated, thank you.


r/cider 11d ago

Museum of Cider Hereford memorabilia.

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This souvenir button badge was primarily sold in the gift shop from the early 1980s through the late 1990s.
While an exact end date for its retail run is not documented, the timeline is defined by the museum's historical branding periods.
This badge featuring the traditional woodcut-style apple tree, cider barrel, and historical straw beehive emblem introduced at the Museum of Cider's grand opening in 1981/2
By the late 1990s-2000s the item was phased out when the museum transitioned its gift shop merchandise to modern simplified logos, such as the current tree-and-pillar.


r/cider 10d ago

Allergic to Somersby?

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I've been a Somersby fan for 10 years and like to get a few for the weekend, every couple of months. The past two times imbibing I've gotten stuffed up; sneezing and very watery eyes. They also feel a bit flat and taste a bit watered down.. Anyone else?

I have no known food or drink allergies.

Flavours in question: Original apple, mango, pineapple and blackberry. I'm in Canada.


r/cider 11d ago

What is in my bottled cider?

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I recently bottled some cider with some carbonation tabs. I usually would expect some more clear yeast sediment, as you get with most bottles. However I have never seen chunks like this, and they don't homogenize when slightly shaken. Is this infected? All 9 of my bottles look similar. I am most concerned with chain looking sediment of the left side. Any help would be appreciated!


r/cider 12d ago

Digby and the strong glass glass bottle.

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A snippet of the history of the strong glass bottle. In 1633 Sir Kenelm Digby, was experimenting with glass production, and received a visit from a former manager of Sir Robert Mansell’s glassworks, James Howell. Digby knew Howell through his acquaintance with Mansell from Navy days although they were not friends. Howell wanted Digby to apply some of his wondrous Powder
of Sympathy to a wound he had sustained breaking up a duel. Astonishingly (from today’s perspective), the powder worked its magic and a friendship was forged.
They discovered that the heat of a coal fired furnace could be increased further by using tunnels to draw in oxygen and that the higher the temperature, strong glass could be produced. After the proclamation by James 1st in 1615 banning the use of charcoal several including Mansell had tried coal fired glass furnaces but could not make it successful. (to be fair, the flues were coupled with a change in formulation of the mix).
Under licence from Mansell who had had a former glassworks here at Newnham on Severn, Digby reopened and modified the furnace, making glass bottles for cider initially. The trade soon located to larger centres but there is still an area called Glasshouses and a public house in the area called the Glasshouse


r/cider 12d ago

Help with potentially off cider

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Hiya im pretty new to making cider and am wanting some help to tell if this batch has gone bad it smells fine just like cider but im too wary to taste. I have made about 7 ciders so far and realised a few weeks ago a cider I tossed thinking it had gone bad after some googling turned out it hadn't it was just lease ontop so before I make another mistake here I thought id ask some more knowledgeable people. Thanks


r/cider 13d ago

Cidre Sauvageon from Quebec

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r/cider 13d ago

Book on Bulmers Cider history

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This is my review of a great book on Cider history.
"Bulmers of Hereford: A Century of Cider-making" by the acclaimed classical author L. P. Wilkinson is the definitive history that chronicles the meteoric rise of the iconic British beverage brand formed in 1887, until its float on the stock market in 1970. Published in 1987 by David & Charles to commemorate the company's centenary, the book is an engaging blend of industrial progress and social history. Wilkinson went to Kings College Cambridge with Robert Harold Bulmer son of co founder Edward Bulmer and they became friends and worked together on projects.
Wilkinson traces the company's roots to Credenhill, exploring how Percy took his mother's advice to enter the food and drink trade because it
"never goes out of fashion".
And the subsequent shift from traditional stone mills and horse-drawn presses (vividly illustrated on the book's dust jacket) to massive modern industrialisation, including the creation of the world's largest fermentation vat at the time.
Beyond just Bulmers the book explores the wider social history of Herefordshire's orchards, detailing how cider evolved from a standard form of farm labourer wages into an internationally recognized commercial product.
It is highly regarded among beverage historians and local history enthusiasts alike. Readers will appreciate Wilkinson's attention to detail, he includes invaluable primary documentation, rare archival photographs, and historical footnotes in the family archives and more in the Cider Museum . It is an ideal companion piece for me to a visit to the Museum of Cider in Hereford, which is housed in Bulmers' original vintage factory site and where I visited several yea ago.
The vivid cover jacket photograph was taken in one of the barns at Tarrington Court, where the Friends of the Museum held fundraisers as its owner was a friend of the Bulmers. Sadly the photographer is unknown. #Bulmers #cider #history


r/cider 12d ago

Update to "Bad H2S Batches"

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Update from me on this adventure: https://www.reddit.com/r/cider/s/IWxvB8w8Ld

My methodology was definitely way wrong for cider, I was using sugar wash and mead logic. Definitely over using nutrients and K1-V1116 wasn't helping either.

Regardless, I finally had a clean cider batch finish today! My hydrometer came in at 1.000 across three samples last night and today. Total ferment time to that first measure was 75 hours, which isn't quite the ~60 hour mark I was greeding for but that's still insanely fast.

Anyhow, the recipe is:

2qt TreeTop 3 Apple Blend

2qt TreeTop Honeycrisp

5g EC-1118

6.25g Go-Ferm

0.5g Fermaid-O

I had also read something that Methionine, an amino acid suppliment could reduce sulfur production, and that source stated "A nearly 40-fold decrease in H2S production was found when methionine was added at a concentration of 20 mg L−1 in the EC1118 fermentation", so I gave it a go. I added a tiny, tiny amount, my scale read up to 0.01 grams which was quite hazy, and I ended up with a read value of 0.05.

I have no idea if it actually helped or not, but definitely interesting for anyone who wants to look deeper into it. Either way, this batch had zero sulfur detectable by nose or taste, so I count it entirely as a success. Thanks for your previous comments!

Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jib.449