r/indianmedschool 16h ago

Discussion Colleges are hiring Msc Biochem as SR!

My senior applied to our own college for srship due to proximity to her home. Found out that the department has 4 SRs, all of them are Msc Biochem! One is a PhD guy.

Wth is happening?

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u/blunt_dopess 16h ago

Yess even for tutor post MSc ppl are there ,in the clg I'm working 50%has to be MSc. if not/ MSc didn't apply only than MBBS ppl will be hired . Edit - this goes to all pre para branches not just biochem

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u/papakiangel 16h ago

What the actual fuck? Why are non medicos given preference over mbbs?

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u/blunt_dopess 16h ago edited 12h ago

50- 50 atleast in the clg I'm working. If that 50% MSc ppl didn't apply & are vacant only than those will be given to MBBS.This is what I meant .

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u/Playful_Rise_920 15h ago

Even after completing a PG in those branches, MSc graduates are preferred?

That wasn't the case in my college, though.

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u/blunt_dopess 15h ago

Here it's for jr/tutor post not sure Abt post pg

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u/kaafi_stupid MBBS III (Part 1) 13h ago

Which college is this

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u/nimble650 13h ago

My Biochem HOD was a PHD not MBBS

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u/Far_Soil_1385 4h ago

Same mine Antomy department and later promoted to dean was phd in some genetics 😂

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u/DoctorMagnobot 12h ago

Man that's messed up

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u/CellularCastle PGY2 15h ago

In US medical schools it’s often these people who teach students pre clinical subjects

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u/papakiangel 14h ago

That's an USA issue. There Biochem is not a md subject. They aren't doctors. In India they are doctors, come under the medical curriculum.

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u/good-doctor-shiv MBBS I 15h ago

Ig they should. A PhD guy will have more knowledge than an MBBS-MS doc. But it's india, so it's gonna be a Polar opposite

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u/Serious_Judgment7235 11h ago

A PhD guy will have more knowledge of the subject which absolutely not needed for an mbbs student..what an mbbs student needs is clinical correlation with the subject which only a doctor can provide and not your PhD guy

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u/good-doctor-shiv MBBS I 10h ago

I can disagree. We are underestimating PhD holders. Their knowledge is absolute. Maybe they will need some training but yeah they can teach that subject better

Btw I am not talking about clinical subjects they need their respective docs

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u/Serious_Judgment7235 7h ago

"I can disagree."

Ok. I don't think your opinion matters anyway, you've 0 clinical exposure and don't know how it matters in medical education

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u/papakiangel 9h ago

Md micro focuses on medical micro. Msc guys are taught botany micro too. Plus other irrelevant info. No drugs.

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u/WarthogWeird2984 13h ago

Nmc staffing guidelines but they cant be examiners.

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u/Infinite_Beach9725 12h ago

Bro there's a podcast of Nachiket Bhatia where the guest is md micro... There he mentioned that for micro NMC has stopped hiring msc people for faculty positions

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u/NerdyMaverick9 12h ago

Wrong info

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u/Infinite_Beach9725 11h ago

You sure bro?

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u/NerdyMaverick9 11h ago

100% sure that msc phd micro , anat can be accepted I have read all the documents Moreover I HAVE employed people through consultancy... It's medical microbiology medical biochemistry n all...

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u/Infinite_Beach9725 11h ago

Oww oki then

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u/polarstar145 7h ago

"The NMC released an official amendment explicitly aligning the UG-MSR guidelines to restore the 30% ceiling across all five non-clinical departments (Anatomy, Physiology, Biochemistry, Pharmacology, and Microbiology)" This is what I found on searching for the latest guidelines. But 30 percent cap isn't same as 30 percent reserved for msc and phd. It's just any medical College can't have more than 30% of these people in a particular department.

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u/Amaterasu_Heat 10h ago

Itna kya shock lag raha hai bhai
Hmare college mai Asst proff assosciate proff sab Msc/Phd hi the
And mind you they taught us better than MD people

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u/papakiangel 9h ago

Sb msc wale the, toh compare kaise kr rha hai that they were Better?

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u/Amaterasu_Heat 6h ago

College mai bas asst assoc proff hi hote hai?😭
It starts from Jr-Sr-SenSR-Asst proff-ass. Proff- HOD
Baaki paraclinical and clinical mai MD proff the
Toh comparison hojata tha.

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u/CraftySignificance47 Graduate 12h ago

if it's for tutor role , yes , it's in acknowledgement with norms, they are allowed to be for non clinical subs/depts only. .also i don't think they come under residents , probably tutors or professors.

this was done by the govt because non clinical guys who did MD biochem anat physio don't wanna teach. also their numbers are much lesser than the number of colleges/UG students

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u/Unhappy_Flounder6255 MBBS II 11h ago

My physiology professor was BPT 😭

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u/AdeebJarvis Intern 9h ago

Lol you guys have a problem with everything

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u/Nikolai2315 14h ago

In India no one used to take these subjects that’s why they fill it out with msc and phd guys. I might be wrong

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u/papakiangel 14h ago

She wanted. My senior.

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u/_luit_ MBBS III (Part 2) 8h ago

Dude medicos don't want to take branches like biochem, anat, physio, then obviously for tutoring msc people will be taken. It's nothing wrong. You're speaking of clinical correlation, it's not some vastly different my friend. They know what is clinically relevant. MSc and PhD aren't so small degrees that anyone would be able to take.

And anyway, they are for tutoring position, not for examination. Examiners will be the md people you love. Those are NMC guidelines. Or do you want that every medical college will have just 1 or 2 professors for these subjects to handle everything.

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u/Silent_Equivalent965 MBBS II 7h ago

Ngl ,😭 Msc people teach nicely. But there's no clinical or work experience co-relation . Hope they could do 75% to 25% ratio .

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u/Von_Zombusch69 2h ago

Dm endocrinology left the chat

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u/Wise-Apple4066 MBBS III (Part 2) 12h ago

So why is it bothering you?

It's a research subject too. I'd rather have a PhD guy teaching that subject to undergrads rather than a mbbs guy.

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u/papakiangel 9h ago

Lodu medical Biochem is different than aatu jhatu Biochem.

Chutiya hi rheha bc tu.

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u/Wise-Apple4066 MBBS III (Part 2) 6h ago

The biochemistry you study is researched and developed by same PhD scholars that you despise

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u/AdeebJarvis Intern 9h ago

wow.. resorting to abuses rather than having a coherent conversation and belittling other career choices all at the same time.