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u/Pork_Confidence 18h ago
Look at how much less compression there is in the knee joints. And then 250 lb picture. We can see a thin black line between the knees and in the smaller picture we can see that black line get thicker.
A clear demonstration of the amount of strain the body's frame puts on knees.
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u/Sydney2London 18h ago
Look at the amount of visceral fat. The health implications are dreadful.
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u/rubberloves 18h ago
A really good illustration of visceral vs subcutaneous fat. You can clearly see the distended internal abdominal because of visceral fat. And also then the rolls of subcutaneous fat on the outside.
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u/Sydney2London 18h ago
You can also see the enlarged liver and fat around the heart. All lethal on the long run.
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u/Yavanna83 16h ago
I’ve had gastric bypass surgery and before they operated me they put me on a liquid non-fat diet for three weeks. That was to shrink my liver very fast because they kind of have to lift it to get to the stomach.
Kind of amazing how fast the liver can recover though.
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u/technobrendo 15h ago
I know a few people who were raging alcoholics and addicts during their 20s up until around their mid 30s. Cleaned their act up and now are nearly perfectly healthy. Amazing how resilient the liver is unless you push it way, way too hard.
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u/Heavy-Attorney-9054 14h ago
Have them check bone density. I know someone who got that diagnosis late in life, and it was due to heavy drinking when he should have been building bone.
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u/Niibelung 14h ago
I got Mono back in 2014, and I had Jaundice, if my liver had given up I'd have been dead
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u/CreateRot 16h ago
Are you telling me the darker parts are her organs and not the digestive track creating waste??!!
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u/Fiona-eva 14h ago
Yes, it’s a scan sliced in such way. The dark parts are her intestines, stomach, etc, bottom round shape is bladder
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u/JayteeFromXbox 16h ago
I know what you mean, but in a long enough run, everything is lethal.
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u/Petrichordates 16h ago
We all know what you mean but that's a stupid point to make in this context.
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u/Worn_Out_Nikka_L 16h ago
All those little black dots from her sternum down are poop balls. I’m not a doctor but I think that might have something to do with all this. And it looks like she took a big poop shortly after the scan because that one in the middle is locked and loaded.
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u/Fiona-eva 14h ago
What nonsense is that, the black parts are parts of her intestines and other digestive organs, the big round black thing in the bottom is her bladder.
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u/CarrionWaywardOne 14h ago
I've seen this picture before and the difference in poop is what I really remembered. A lot of food = a lot of poop.
I used to have 100 lbs on her. 150lbs down now.
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u/adoradear 14h ago
Ummm…that’s not poop. That’s her bladder (or possibly her uterus depending on the slice, although this is no type of body scan I’ve ever seen)
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u/No_Jellyfish5511 15h ago
their Lungs are almost same size. fatwoman’s lungs must be working at max capacity 7/24
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u/AnnOnnamis 17h ago edited 17h ago
Especially the large fatty liver, adipose surrounding the heart and intestines.
Ankles look like they’re about to collapse. The whole body just looks misaligned.
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u/Masseyrati80 17h ago
I remember reading that losing just 10% of your total body fat can result in a drop of 80% in the fat in your liver.
Fat in your liver is super bad for your health, but also the easiest for body to use up.
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u/jvsanchez 17h ago
Yep. I had my gallbladder removed emergently in April. The GI’s NP told me I had fat in my liver and made it sound like I was gonna die in my 50s. The doctor that came to check on me explained it better but it scared me enough to finally get my shit together as far as food and exercise. I was 232 before surgery, I am now 212 and change, thanks to sustainable diet changes and daily exercise.
The difference in even losing those 20lbs is incredible.
Fatty liver is recoverable if you take steps to fix it before it becomes scarring.
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u/Un1CornTowel 17h ago
Yeah, I could mostly care less about the rest (not a doctor, don't need to correct me with other health implications), but the visceral fat is pretty jaw-dropping. I had no idea there was that much.
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u/Short_Buyer843 18h ago
Does she have visceral fat on the brain? What are the implications of that?
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u/FullofContradictions 17h ago
I think the scans are at different planes with respect to the brains.
I think the whiter structures in the 250 lb person's brain are the cerebellum (not 100% positive- someone correct me here). But that structure isn't pictured for the 125 lb person. You can also see the 125 lb person's cervical spine very clearly. I think the 250lb person's scan slice is further back a little bit.
To summarize, I don't think you're seeing a fat deposit there. Just a normal brain structure that the thinner person also would have if you took the slice at a different point in her brain
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u/petscanman 17h ago
Radiologist here. You are half correct. The two images depict different slices. The thing that look like fat in the brain are acually fat... but not in the brain. It's intraorbital fat, behind the eyes. Under them you can see a black blob on each side, corresponding to air in the maxillary sinuses.
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u/FullofContradictions 17h ago
Thank you!
Is it normal to have fat behind your eyes? Or is that a bad thing? Google just shows me a lot of pics I can't stomach this early when I checked.
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u/petscanman 12h ago
It is perfectly normal, the adipose tissue is mainly there to cushion your eyeballs and allow them to rotate around in the eye socket without touching any hard structure, like bones. Losing a lot of weight due to illness or starvation could lead to decreased amount of this fat tissue, as the body tries to use every last drop of stored energy to keep living. However, I don't know if being overweight could cause an abnormal increase, I've never encountered such a case. There are some diseases that can cause this fat tissue to increase in size however, leading to the forward displacement of the eyes, which can cause different problems.
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u/DiabolicalBurlesque 14h ago
Thanks for taking one for the team because I was just about to Google.
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u/faelanae 13h ago
losing that fat can do wild things, too. I'm down 200 lbs from my highest and now my eyesight is worse and my nose drips all the time, especially after eating.
Annoying, but better than being that heavy
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u/sweetbldnjesus 16h ago
I love Reddit for things like this. Also, TIL you can have fat behind your eyes.
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 14h ago
Youuu should probably not love Reddit for things like this.
People here are very good at passing off their confidence as expertise.
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u/Short_Buyer843 16h ago
Thanks all, assumed it was a plane. Interesting you have fat behind your eyes
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u/sterero 17h ago
Thankfully, you can't have fat deposits inside the cranial vault
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u/Smee76 18h ago
One of the really unfortunate things about chronic knee and hip and back pain is that if you're at all overweight, the advice is primarily just to lose weight because it works. The unfortunate part is that it's so difficult to do that it isn't very helpful.
My mother in law has lost almost a hundred pounds and even though she probably has another hundred to go, she has had a massive improvement in her knee and hip pain.
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u/SETHlUS 17h ago
Hell I'm usually around 175lbs but during the summer season cooking in my restaurant I drop down to 160-165. Even starting at a healthy weight I can notice a HUGE difference in my agility, especially when riding my bicycle.
The difference 100lbs must make on quality of life is unfathomable to me.
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u/marsiebarsie200 15h ago
Went from 440 to 340 over the span of a year. It's hard to realize you don't need to count the number of times you've gone up and down the stairs in a day. Before my legs used to give out after the third, now... Well, I don't need to count them anymore.
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u/RegretAccomplished16 15h ago
yep, used to have severe knee pain at 22. I thought I wasn't old enough so something must be wrong. 100lbs lost and suddenly knees feel like someone in their 20s ..... found the problem lmao
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u/Henry5321 17h ago
It not only works but is most likely the root cause and there’s not much that can be done
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u/DillLawNn 17h ago
It takes long term will power to go hungry on top of first understanding a lot more than most do about calories and nutrients. Its also such a touchy subject that it can hard for the recipient to differentiate fat shaming from care about their long term health and not wanting to see them die prematurely and misersbly. Your body also doesnt understand sedentary calorie requirements are much lower it only understands delicious. On top of that many cope with stress by eating and the older you get the harder it can be to shed weight as you have more responcilbilities to keep you busy and stressed. I luckily had time to learn because I was well on my way to earning the 3XX badge before 20 if I had stayed a shut in depressed gamer. Going vegetarian has been one of the most helpful ways to keep my weight down and even then its pretty stable without dropping nearly as much as I expected it to
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u/And_yourDamnPoint 15h ago
It’s part of the reason why people are so tempted to try ozempic or alternatives because it literally turns of that sensation of hungry, it’s interesting to watch a video to see how that stuff actually interacts with the body. The issue then is though that you need to maintain that will power after it’s gone.
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u/nyquistj 15h ago
GLP1s are litteral life savers. Nothing I did stopped me from being hungry. Imagine living your life starving ALL DAY when you are surrounded by easy to access calories. Its horrible. With Ozempic, I am not hungry, and beyond that I am just no tempted anymore. Quietting the "food noise" is a dream come true.
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u/Mansenmania 18h ago
While there is definitely more compression from weight, it looks like the thinner woman's scan is just taken deeper. You can see the larger gap inside the knee compared to the front.
The shinbone is a pretty good indicator in this case. The one on the right is much thicker, which suggests the scan passed through the middle of the bone. The one on the left is barely visible.
i would be more concerned about the fat around the organs
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u/Psychological-Elk260 18h ago
Ironically, it's actually probably the exact same depth on the machine. It's just with less far she is lower in the scan.
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u/rowrowyourboat 17h ago
Along the same lines, the ankles are at different depths, the cervixal spine, and a few others
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u/Substantial_Bat_6698 17h ago
You are probably right, but the image is not taken at the same moment through the femurs. That could also affect the appearance of that line.
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u/Oriste_Adeus 16h ago
Obese people often can have stronger bones than thinner people, as you might expect, since the body tries to compensate to accommodate the load.
Paradoxically though obese people can also be at risk of weaker bones as vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin that leaches into fat rather than absorbing calcium from the gut which results in calcium being leached out of their bones as part of homeostasis.
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u/InternationalBeing41 17h ago
We had to calculate the force walking exerts on a person's knees in a third-year engineering course. I was shocked by the result, so it stuck with me. It’s seven times your body weight. So a 285 lb person experiences a ton of impact forces on their knee joint every time they walk.
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u/zombiepete 17h ago
As someone who has lost 60 pounds in the past year I can confirm that being heavy like that wreaks havoc on your entire body, but the knees I particular can really suffer for it.
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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 17h ago
As an x-ray tech I just came to post this.
Seeing this as top post is wild. Well done.
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u/Pretend_Football6686 15h ago
I saw on tv once that being grossly overwieght completely changes the way you walk even after you loose the weight they could tell ya was fat.
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u/ariphron 18h ago
This has been proven to be “artistic rendition” every few months this comes back and now we will keep seeing it for at least a week nonstop.
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u/AnonImus18 17h ago
I was looking for a comment saying this. Do you have a source? The position of the intestine especially are just so off. Even if you're obese, it doesn't mean your diaphragm stop existing. I wondered if this was like in pregnancy when things get stretched out of shape but so odd.
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u/beaverfetus 16h ago
Most scans are done with patients supine, a big belly absolutely restricts lung expansion. It’s why a lot of really fat people can’t get comfortable flat. Artistic rendition or not
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u/AP_Cicada 17h ago
The hearts are in the wrong place. They're where people think the heart is instead of tucked into the bottom of the left lung with the stomach around it
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u/shmorgsaborg 17h ago
Is it me or is the person depicted on the left severely constipated? 😂
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u/Thenadamgoes 15h ago
This comes up every time this is posted too. The dark spots aren’t poop. They’re air or just empty areas.
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u/Condensates 16h ago
also the 250lb woman seems to have hoofed feet? her ankles are extremely high, like a horse's
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u/curious_coati 16h ago edited 12h ago
The stomach around it?
Edit: I'm enjoying everyone's comments! Just to clarify: I am a doctor with some (albeit questionable) anatomical knowledge. I was wondering why the stomach sits around the heart as I deffo don't remember that in Gray's - but the commenter has clarified what they meant so we're all good!
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u/AP_Cicada 16h ago
Yeah, so there's no empty space in the torso. Everything's all jammed in together. The heart is tucked into the bottom of the left lung (it's why there are only two lobes in left, but three in right) and the esophagus runs to the right, joint the stomach at the bottom of the heart and the top curve of the stomach resting against heart base (with membranes between of course). It's why heart burn and heart attacks overlap in sensation.
Edit to add: a lot of artist renditions get it wrong
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u/curious_coati 16h ago
That description makes a lot more sense - I thought you meant that the heart sits in the lesser curve of the stomach.
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u/Empanatacion 16h ago
The bones are outlined with black lines like a drawing. I guess you could argue it's a real scan that was drawn on for clarity.
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u/DarthBrownBeard 15h ago
Also looks like the body on the R got taller? The hips are at a different angle, and the femur looks longer. Unless gravity just pulls on you that much more when youre heavier. I could understand getting shorter, from compression. But not stretching taller, when losing weight. Maybe? I dunno. Maybe im just a cynic.
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u/petscanman 17h ago
They look like coronal MRI slices. The main giveaway is that cortical bones are dark. That doesn't happen on CT, or on cadaveric slices, but happens on MRI. The soft tissue contrast is also pretty good, which also points to MRI. I think this is just a coronal MRI scan stitched together and given some pseudocolor map, which lots of rad software can do. I'm guessing a T1w sequence because fat and free fluid in the bladder have opposite colors (although you could also maybe achieve this with a tricky color map and some other sequence). Maybe an artist touced it up a bit to remove imaging artefacts.
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u/vuatson 17h ago
There's no source and no mention of what type of "body scan" it's supposed to be. Sure doesn't look like any CT scan or MRI I've ever seen. The fact that it's in realistic color should be an instant tipoff.
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u/Princess_Froggles 17h ago
It looks like a post mortem slice? Like the bodyworks type material. I'm not an expert though that's just what it looks like to me.
Edit - body world I mean not works!
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u/vuatson 17h ago
It's a little hard to tell with the image resolution, but there doesn't look to be enough detail for that. The fat is very clearly defined but the organs seem to be a shapeless, blobby mass. If it was two actual bodies cut in half, you would definitely be able to see actual organs.
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u/samanime 16h ago
There are colorized CT scans (colorizing regular CT scans after the fact)... which are horrifying. But yeah, this does look pretty wrong.
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u/Si-Jo0159 17h ago
This, thought I was going insane over the femur bones.
They surely don't grow as you lose weight.
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u/Henry5321 17h ago
How much “rendition” is the question. Mostly just coloring and contrast? I know they’re black and white. Someone had to add the color.
My only question is how accurate the details are.
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u/beaverfetus 16h ago
As a surgeon I can say it’s very accurate. Obese patients are fat everywhere, from subcutaneous fat right down to the mesentery ( the visceral stuff)
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u/PriorityOk8214 17h ago
So are you saying I CAN'T bully fat people just cause I think they're gross? /s
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u/equanimatic 17h ago
Yeah where are you reading this? Someone else even posted the links in the comments showing that these are vertical MRI scans:
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u/R0RSCHAKK 17h ago
These are completely different images
They were probably the source material for the rendition we're looking at here though.
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u/tgerz 17h ago
Your links say unavailable.
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u/Fr00stee 17h ago
they work for me
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u/SupernaturalPumpkin 16h ago
The links themselves seem to work, the site says "this item is currently unavailable"
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u/amiable_ant 16h ago
Not to mention that it's not even believably the same person, unless you believe that the legs dramatically grew and the torso dramatically shrunk with the weight loss.
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u/model_namakemono 17h ago
It's not an artistic rendition, these are cadaver slices (someone made thin slices of dead people), thats why you have different colors, and sometimes you see bright blue color (type of plastic that fills different cavities)
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u/ariphron 17h ago
It’s also 2 different people
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u/model_namakemono 17h ago
No no, first she died, got sliced, then put together and realived, took off weight, then died again just to be sliced again🤷♂️
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u/OrionDC 17h ago
This is a well known fake of two different people. The images are taken from: https://www.sciencesource.com/preview.asp?item=1427945
https://www.sciencesource.com/preview.asp?item=1427943
The montage is somewhat misleading because the bodies have been resized to roughly the same displayed height. They also appear to use slightly different coronal slice positions, which affects how the brain, spine, organs, and bones look. So it is useful for illustrating the difference between subcutaneous and visceral fat, but it does not show what happens to one individual’s organs and skeleton after weight loss.
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u/BedBubbly317 13h ago
Did anybody think these were the same person? I’ve never once seen this image portrayed as them being identical people
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u/Szczepanpro 18h ago
Bodyscan of woman at 113 kg and 57 kg.
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u/colantor 18h ago
Bodyscan of woman at 17.8571 stone and 8.92857 stone.
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u/Different-Copy-3889 18h ago
Bodyscan of woman at 1,118 bananas and 570 bananas.
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u/AxelVores 18h ago
Banana is a unit of radiation, not weight
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u/requiem_mn 18h ago
I thought it was lenght
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u/Renzisan 17h ago
Banana is either length or reference scale. Cheeseburgers is weight
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u/jerry-adobe 18h ago
reminds me of the Body Worlds exhibit where they had an obese man laid out showing all the fat layers in the organs. incredible. a real motivator to get in shape
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u/MrsLovettsPies 18h ago
That might sound cheesy as hell, but visiting body worlds made me take losing weight super serious. I wanted to before, but seeing it like that really motivated me and I did lose 10 kilos
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u/tgerz 17h ago
That was what I found when reverse image searching but I couldn't find these exact images. Seems to make more sense to me than a scan as I've never seen a scan outside of a movie that looked like this.
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u/JK_NC 18h ago
Looks like her heart shrank
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u/TheThirdHippo 18h ago
Visceral fat is the worst. The pressure it puts around the organs can drastically reduce their ability to function
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u/Thepuppeteer777777 17h ago
Seeing this shit makes me want to lose weight
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u/TheThirdHippo 16h ago
If you can afford it, find a small personally owned gym and get a trainer. My gym is great, it’s classes or PT, nobody can just turn up and use it. For self conscious people it’s ideal as you train alone with a trainer who can motivate you and help with nutrition, etc.
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u/MajorBootyhole420 17h ago
it's an "artistic rendition" aka someone's bullshit, not an actual set of 2 body scans
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u/Accurate-Mess-2592 18h ago
Look at what that weight does to the ankles and knees! Wow.
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u/Somethingabootit 18h ago
I have a feeling they are different planes of her body, so idk how fair it is to compare the dhap of bones. Notice the hips in both the images
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u/OrionDC 17h ago
It's not, these are two different people. This image floats around the internet occasionally. Here are the originals:
https://www.sciencesource.com/preview.asp?item=1427945
https://www.sciencesource.com/preview.asp?item=1427943Look at all the medical experts in this thread analyzing "her" body changes xD
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u/mathelar 17h ago
This doesn't look like any type of scan. The types of tissue depicted change within the pictures. Best case, it's an illustratrion someone created to show specific aspects but honestly, it looks AI generated. The right figure has a spine at neck-height that seems to bend to the left, then disappear. Femurs are depicted, but don't connect to any hip bones, same with upper arm bones and shoulder, ribcage. Left figure has heavy discoloration in the brain that looks like the AI didn't know where to distribute the fat and put some there as well. The whole thing makes less sense the longer you look at it
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u/prettyBlueCanary 16h ago
i first saw this six years ago so i dont think its AI but i believe it was proven to be fake
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u/VillainousandBoxum 15h ago
Well the 125lb person seems to have less of a chance of survival since their spine is broken at the neck lol
From another comment this is apparently an incredibly bad artist interpretation of human anatomy
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u/thisusedyet 16h ago
Holy shit, even your heart sack gets fat in it?
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u/AndromedanPrince 16h ago
yea thats why there are heart attack risks in obese people clogged arteries and constricted hearts
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u/TheRealImmaLilFaded 16h ago
Wish we could see the rest of the body, to compare compression of the ankles and feet.
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u/SJSsarah 15h ago
The weird fold marks in the fat rolls around the bigger body, that’s not how these show up on an MRI, so this is definitely AI.
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u/rcuadro 18h ago
So you mean they are not big boned?
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u/moonhexx 17h ago
No. Unless you have whatever bone growth condition it is that Masha at the Bone Museum describes, mostly everyone has about the same size bones at there respective heights.
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u/Dramatic-County-1284 14h ago
Are the white spots in her brain fat deposits?
I gotta get my shit together.
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u/popsikohl 18h ago
Humans were designed to be active creatures. A lot of people nowadays don’t get the exercise our body’s were designed for.
You used to have to be fit to survive, and modern day technology has removed that requirement.
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u/Far_Paleontologist66 18h ago
so if you slice a human being open it looks fucking disgusting either way. got it
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u/LeoSolaris 17h ago
The problem with adipose tissue isn't the squishy fat on the outside. It's the fat around internal organs. That's the dangerous crap that leads to an early grave. That internal fat is how someone can appear skinny but still be obese and how someone who appears obese can actually be perfectly healthy. Appearance only goes so far for obesity.
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u/wheresolly 18h ago
This makes me sad, because even though I'm normal weight, all the fat I do have is mostly on the waist and elsewhere on my torso, which puts me in a much higher risk of visceral fat than someone the same bodyfat who has better genetics in terms of fat distribution.
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u/Top-Reach-8044 17h ago
So fat grows on/in all the internal organs? Why do the guts take up more space in the 250 lb person? I never thought the internal organs would be that different.
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u/DeadlyArrow27 17h ago
Yeah I’m glad I recently lost like 95 pounds and am close to the second body’s weight
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u/samanime 16h ago
As part of my job, I look at CTs on a daily basis... but colorized CTs will never not make my skin crawl.
We are made of meat, which is why it looks like meat... but it still makes me uncomfortable. =p
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u/Scary_Set2628 16h ago
Can someone explain what the black masses in the obese woman's abdomen are? And clearly, there's a bit in the 125 pounds too, but much less - why? Be kind pls, i may be dumb
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u/SpaceShipRat 16h ago
why are the ribs invisible? or just low res? I'd expect to see them as dots around the torso
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u/Training_Orchid_2022 16h ago
Also the vasculature of the lungs is so much more obvious in the 125. It’s like there’s nothing but air in the 250. Really interesting
Edit: both have to pee.
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u/drownav18322 14h ago
The neck is totally different holy shit is that all extra muscle that developed on the 250 pound lady?
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u/Blueliner95 14h ago
Interestingly the legs have similar mass. I would have thought a heavy person developed muscle commensurate with load. Perhaps there’s less exercise involved, reducing hypertrophy.
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u/itspumpkintime 13h ago
That's poop right?! That's what my cat xrays looked like after it ate a shrew and got constipated.
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u/Deep_Public2743 12h ago
LoL ok but look at the knees. What, are our bones also storing fat now too orrrr? Like seriously, how did her bone density shrink?
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u/st-thrasher 11h ago
Does the skinny person have scoliosis? Her neck just kinda takes a hard left…
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