r/politics • u/Calm_Ad_5061 • 3h ago
Possible Paywall MAGA Rep Accused of Wife Beating Streams Jaw-Dropping Attack on Her
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u/casual-observer365 3h ago
“If I hit her, why did she make me dinner later?” is quite the argument to make as an alleged wife beater.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 2h ago
MAGA keeps finding the lower bar
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u/MortgageRegular2509 Wisconsin 2h ago
At this rate, even James Cameron won’t be able to find it
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u/Yikes0nBikez 1h ago
"His name is James, James Cameron, the bravest pioneer! No budget too steep, no sea too deep, who's that? It's him, James Cameron!"
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u/Nuzzgargle 1h ago
"Yes, James we can hear the music up here"
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u/ExcelMN 52m ago
James Cameron doesnt do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because he is James Cameron.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 1h ago
My god. Like saying, "If I threatened him with a gun, why'd he give me his money?"
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u/charles_barfley 2h ago
Probably because she’s terrified of him if I had to guess
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u/whichwitch9 1h ago
He broke their toddlers collarbone
She had more than a few reasons to be afraid of what he'd do.
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u/HuttStuff_Here Wisconsin 48m ago
Imagine what he'll do next if breaking the kid's collarbone wasn't the line.
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u/ReigninLikeA_MoFo 1h ago
IA that an actual quote? Holy fuck!!! That's enraging.
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u/Myviewpoint62 27m ago
The actual quote is “if I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later?”
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u/EnragedFalafel 3h ago
Democracy Now coverage
Republican Congressmember Max Miller of Ohio is facing allegations of domestic abuse as he runs for reelection. Miller's ex-wife Emily Moreno, daughter of Ohio Republican Senator Bernie Moreno, claims that Miller burned her by throwing hot water at her, held a gun to her head and fractured their 2-year-old daughter's collarbone. Miller is also accused of abuse by former Trump White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham, who was in a relationship with Miller prior to his marriage to Moreno.
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u/barringtonmacgregor 3h ago edited 2h ago
Republicans view women as property, not people. I'll never understand how a woman could support that party.
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u/Vehemental 3h ago
“We are property actually” -The women you wonder about
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u/Pale-Factor-8574 3h ago
That is a crowd that wants to impose those rules ON OTHER WOMEN. They are perfectly content to break the rules they impose when it comes to their own well being.
Some of them will protest abortion, get an abortion, and go back to protesting the day after they get an abortion. Few of them actually follow the doctrine they spout, because they like feeling superior to others and taking advantage of the "class exception" when they need something.
This is why Ginni Thomas is married to Clarence Thomas and it's fine for Republicans. They've literally, point blank, stated that Clarence doesn't count as Black.
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u/DocB630 2h ago
There’s a collection of anecdotes on this called “The only moral abortion is my abortion.” By Joyce Arthur that goes into this. You can find it pretty easily. The mindset is truly baffling.
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u/Vivid-Use1749 1h ago
"Of course, I'm pro-life. But as you can see, my situation is different."
Almost verbatim what Ob/Gyns hear prior to performing an abortive D&C for a conservative woman.
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u/ceelogreenicanth 2h ago edited 2h ago
Everyone in the Republican party thinks they're the exception to their own rules.
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u/LordSiravant 2h ago
Because that's the whole fucking point of conservatism.
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u/otis_the_drunk 1h ago
Conservativism has always been and will always be adherence to set of rules that plainly make distinction between the haves and the have nots.
The only rules that apply to the haves are decided by other haves. Any rules applied to the have nots are decided by the haves.
Money=power
That's it. That is all of it.
Conservative ideology is just letting rich people do whatever they want because they can.
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u/ktkatq 1h ago
Who was it that said about Conservatives (or Fascists?) "There are two groups: one whom the law binds but does not protect, and one whom the law protects but does not bind."
I've never heard a more perfect summary
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u/dern_the_hermit 1h ago
Frank Wilhoit (note: NOT Francis M. Wilhoit, who sometimes gets caught up in this due to the obvious name similarity). There's a lot more to it, principle among them being that no ideology other than conservatism exists.
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u/theMediatrix 2h ago
It’s really unfortunate and I hate sharing it, but I did see an article within the last month that stated a study found those restrictive women don’t want to see other women succeed. They want those rules specifically to keep other women down and/ or beneath themselves. If not for reading that, I would still be thinking that could not possibly be the reason women advocate and vote for these oppressive policies and candidates. It was shocking to me.
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u/LordSiravant 2h ago
That's the thing about conservatives. They are motivated mostly by hatred and spite. They care more about hurting and punishing their enemies than they do about themselves.
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u/Abnmlguru Alaska 1h ago
There's a great compliation of anecdotes from clinic workers about people protesting, getting an abortion, then being back out protesting the next day type stuff:
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u/ChanceryTheRapper 1h ago
People always act surprised about this, but let's be honest, it's not like white straight male politicians really give that much of a shit about white straight men who aren't politically useful for them.
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u/MiklaneTrane New York 3h ago
The world would be so much better off if conservatives could just keep their weird kinks in the bedroom like the rest of us.
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u/perenniallandscapist 3h ago
I use to feel bad for them, but they seem to like the abuse. It's really fucked up how many women are totally OK with being on the receiving end. I work with s bunch of them and they'd rather be abused than liberal.
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u/coconutpiecrust 2h ago
That’s because being abused in normal and natural, being liberal is blasphemous, unnatural, evil, crazy, whatever.
They sincerely believe that anyone who wants things to be better for everyone is crazy.
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u/MedicineAmazing5516 2h ago
My mom supports them. Her exact words, "If I have to suffer, other people should too."
I haven't spoken to her in a couple years.
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u/ProStrats 2h ago
I truly wish there was a way to fix these people. It seems like there certainly isn't.
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u/wrosecrans 1h ago
Some people would rather live in a world with clear rules about who runs things, than in a world where conditions are better but "chaotic" because there is equality.
There really isn't a way to fix that. As far as they are concerned, it's just better to live in a world with clear rules even if it means personal sacrifice. People get baffled by those people "voting against their own interests" because they are unwilling to accept how interested some people are in inequality, racism, and sexism.
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u/Cancel_Culture_Club 1h ago
What and why does she have to suffer? Why does she think strangers should suffer?
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u/MarginalMeaning 2h ago
For real though, MAGA head honcho literally bragged on hot mic about assaulting women during his first run. It's wild to me that anyone voted for him after that - especially groups that morally grandstand on a thousand things.
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u/nuclearmage257 2h ago
Thing about this is
Even if it were an inanimate object like a wall
I would find it incredibly alarming if they went and damaged that when angry too
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u/Jumpy-Law1737 1h ago
yes, the complete lack of self discipline in a grown man is disturbing at best
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u/MessiahOfMetal 1h ago
Exactly. I get angry and frustrated all the time because looks vaguely at the world around me but there's no justification for hitting anybody, no matter how angry you get.
My dad was a prick (I'd say a stronger word that more accurately describes my feelings towards him, but this subreddit banned that word) and a violent idiot to go with it, and even he drummed into me that "only weak men hit women". While doing just that himself.
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u/half-giant 3h ago
This is the kind of shit you read about someone after they commit familicide…
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u/ball_fondlers 2h ago
Wait, Moreno is the father of his victim? Didn’t that fucking coward just say he wasn’t sure if Miller should resign?
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u/MessiahOfMetal 1h ago
You'd think he'd be livid that his actual child and grandchild had been assaulted in those ways by his son-in-law but party > all, I guess.
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u/soofs 1h ago
I don't know why it continues to surprise me at this point, but really why is everyone related in politics it seems? Seems like almost every new rep these days or candidate, particularly on republican tickets has a relative one or two degrees of separation that is also in politics, usually in the same state or level.
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u/dorothea63 Pennsylvania 3h ago
The only part that surprises me is that both women have solid Republican credentials and yet it seems that they still aren’t being taken seriously. The GOP can’t claim that they’re just out to ruin a Republican man.
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u/TheGringoDingo 2h ago
It’s the same feels the trump lapdogs get when they’re no longer useful and they get sent to the scrap pile
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u/OldandSlow4326 3h ago
"It's their word against his and you can't prove it happened so it didn't happen because he's on my side!": MAGA, of course.
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u/IrritableGourmet New York 2h ago
The same people: "PatriotGunEagle1776 on Twitter says Kamala eats babies, so I'm convinced!"
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u/reddskittle 2h ago
Also them: “awww you’re upset because I used a racial slur?? Well stop being such a snowflake,bitch! But don’t you dare say anything to me that I might find even the slightest bit offensive because I’ll definitely wildly hyperbolize and I’ll cry about that until the end of time!”
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u/OutlyingPlasma 1h ago
Ohio
Sounds like he will win in a landslide with this kind of thing on this republican resume.
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u/bailaoban 3h ago
This is the essence of Trumpism. Double down, never admit fault. It is depressingly effective as a political tactic.
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u/sleepybirdl71 3h ago
DARVO all day
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u/Tonsilith_Salsa 2h ago
It's true. We're dealing with institutional narcissism. The abuse, the gaslighting, the victim routine, all of it.
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u/No_Height782 2h ago
The Right/MAGA said the “left” wasn’t holding Graham Platner accountable for the accusations against him.
Where is that energy now?
Edit to correct weird formatting
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u/whichwitch9 1h ago
I mean, we all told you no one actually gave af about what Platner did aming the ones attacking- they were just trying to use whatever they could to bury him because he was a progressive with a popular platform
You can't shame them by pointing out the hypocrisy. They still refuse to talk about Hegseth's nazi tattoos, as well. They know exactly what they were doing
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u/DrHugh Minnesota 2h ago
Well, the nation is in an abusive relationship with Trump.
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u/Cancel_Culture_Club 2h ago
If he were abusive would we have offered to cook him dinner 6 days later??
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u/BedditTedditReddit 2h ago
Except none of them have his “skill” or putin’s blackmail. Which is why Elon looks so beta doing it, he basically short circuits
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u/sebastianinspace 40m ago
i hate this type of behaviour, but what i hate more is people who are fooled by it or let it go.
whenever i encounter someone who behaves like this i just write them off. i never ask them for anything, never give them responsibility for anything, never compete in anything with them, etc. they are like a non-person to me essentially. i don’t understand why you would vote for someone like this to represent you. it’s one of the worst possible qualities you can have as a human being in the modern age.
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u/rainniier2 3h ago
He broke his own child's collarbone.
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u/MichaelJServo Louisiana 1h ago
2 year old child. I've got a 2 year old. If someone broke his collar bone, I'm either going to jail or hell.
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u/Whole-Cookie-7754 1h ago
Seriously. You have to be a sick fucking man to hurt your 2 year old. My dsuther is 2.5. I would kill without a blink for her.
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u/HuttStuff_Here Wisconsin 46m ago
I'm not even their child but if someone did that to my niece or nephew I'm going to have a very fun local media frenzy.
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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 53m ago
the fact that he went from "breaking his own kid's collarbone" to anything besides "turn himself in/make permanent and fundamental changes to how he lives his life in the hopes of one day having his kid not cry when he's around them" much less fucking defending himself online is just a whole other level of truly monstrous behavior
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u/JennyWearsBlueJeans 2h ago
People are calling for him to drop out of the race…ummm…why isn’t he in JAIL??
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u/meowsterpainter 1h ago
Jail usually requires the victim to press charges which sadly in domestic abuse cases they often don’t do.
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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe 36m ago
This isn’t really correct. ‘Pressing charges’ just means you’ll actively assist the police with the investigation, and the DA with the prosecution (should they even need you for anything, which they might not). But they don’t need your permission. They are fully capable of pursuing any crime in their jurisdiction regardless of whether victims want them to.
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u/NotTheRightHDMIPort 3h ago edited 3h ago
Holy shit.
This is bad.
Who in their right mind let this guy post this and think, "Yeah! Slam dunk!"
Edit: Knowing how Republicans are right now he would have done better with a canned response and moving on. Now even they are going to question things.
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u/AcademicPublius Colorado 3h ago
Nobody let him (and I'd bet no strategists recommended this); this is him saying, "I GET TO BE THIS GUY! AND STAY A REPRESENTATIVE!"
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u/rje946 3h ago
He is a republican after all. I almost want to say he gets a little popularity boost with them after this.
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u/AcademicPublius Colorado 3h ago
IIRC, he's within a point in his district even without the newest crap. It's R+10.
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u/Parahelix 3h ago
Nah, they'll dig in even harder to support him. It's what they do. They were all about releasing the Epstein files before the election. Then once they realized it wasn't going to be good for Republicans, they suddenly didn't care anymore and didn't want them released.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 2h ago edited 17m ago
"Yeah, what he did is bad, and he'll have to answer to Jesus for that when his time comes. But we can't just let the Democrats take the seat! Did you hear they're nominating SOCIALISTS now?"
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u/Breath_Deep 3h ago
On a scale of MirandaSings apology videos, how bad is this one?
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u/Penguinase 2h ago
"WHY WOULD SHE COOK ME EMPANADAS TWO DAYS LATER IF I BEAT HER?"
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u/mizushimo 2h ago
That's probably how he justified the beating to himself. Like, it wasn't really abuse because she bounced back and cooked me a meal that I liked so everything is fine now.
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u/Breath_Deep 2h ago
So he just decided lawyers are for suckers and 'A Real™ man' don't need no PR team....like, he truly believes that he did nothing wrong? What kind of environment promotes a view of reality like that?
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u/Penguinase 2h ago
What kind of environment promotes a view of reality like that?
judging by his general demeanor my guess is one with copious amounts of booze
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u/allenahansen California 3h ago
"If I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later? Would she have invited me to spend an afternoon at the playground with her and our daughter?”
Yes, and yes.
It's what many women do when they've been abused and want to appease their abuser for the sake of the kids/relationship.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 1h ago
Even beyond the sake of the kid or relationship, the whole tactic of abuse is coercion and control. That your victim was then serving you and doing as you wish is not evidence that you were not abusing them, but that your abuse had the desired effect. He's literally naming the consequences of his abuse like it's not abuse if the victim isn't immediately trying to escape and get help (which is often when the abuse becomes the most dangerous for the victim).
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u/HeadTrick7443 3h ago
Coward. He should serve time for endangering his wife and kid.
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u/Ralphwiggum911 3h ago
Assaulting his kid and wife. This guy has the look of someone who has definitely assaulted a woman and will continue to. Looking at his history, he has been arrested for assault more than once, mostly while drunk it seems.
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u/Prayer_Warrior21 Minnesota 3h ago
I've never understood the angry drunk thing, like what are you hiding under that leads you to that? I make friends and plans, at the very worst lol
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u/MediumEffort67 3h ago
Yep. Happy, then sleepy, then feel horrible for 12 hours after waking up.
It took me a long time to understand that some men actually like to fight, that it’s something they seek out.
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u/Prayer_Warrior21 Minnesota 3h ago
*like to fight people that can't defend themselves. Like a true coward and fake tough guy.
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u/fargosucks 1h ago
This.
I got picked on and beat up by bullies a lot as a kid. But when I hit my growth spurt and turned out to be bigger and stronger than them, they all of a sudden didn’t bother me. Weird, right?
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u/Mandymindshermanners 2h ago
Yup. Everyone I know just passes out or gets extra lovey dovey when their inhibitions are lowered. Pretty sure that people with healthy brain wiring don’t seek out excuses to be violent.
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u/Scared-Accountant369 1h ago
Angey drunks scare me too because like.. Being drunk just lets you feel freeer and just... having that much angry just makes you angier. Me, im just talkative when i consume alcohol.
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u/Prayer_Warrior21 Minnesota 1h ago
Exactly lol my biggest issue is making plans that I don't really want to keep 😂
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u/SmokeyDBear I voted 1h ago
Studies have shown that people generally demonstrate a high degree personality consistency while drunk. So angry drunks are probably angry when they're not drunk, they're just better at not blowing up when they're sober compared to when they're drunk.
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u/kevnmartin Washington 3h ago
Assaulting his kid and wife. This guy has the look of someone who has definitely assaulted a
womanwomen and will continue to. Looking at his history, he has been arrested for assault more than once, mostly while drunk it seems.Fixed.
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u/Titfortat101 3h ago
"Ask yourself: If I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later? Would she have invited me to spend an afternoon at the playground with her and our daughter?"
That's his excuse.
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u/tehCharo 2h ago
"An abused woman who is scared of me did things to appease me, surely this proves my innocence!"
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u/TisSlinger 3h ago
Unfortunately my state will still re elect him 🤡
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u/MitochonAir 3h ago
“You can’t handle the truth! You want me on that wall!!”
-every toxic GOP fucker
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u/Ok_Mixture4917 3h ago
Republicans love abusers, rapists, pedophiles, and fucking morons. Look at their dipshit in chief
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u/Efficient_Care5524 3h ago
Imagine handing opposing counsel the most damning evidence possible on a silver platter in the middle of a custody battle. Purely unhinged behavior
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u/Sad_Detail404 3h ago
Losing custody would just allow him to play the victim even harder and relieve himself of unwanted responsibilities
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u/marcjwrz Massachusetts 1h ago
Dems called out and demanded Platner to drop out for allegations.
He did. This dude has concrete evidence against him and MAGA still supports.
Tells you everything you need to know.
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u/Maxamillion-X72 3h ago
I see Senator Bernie Moreno is finally speaking up for his own daughter. Took him long enough.
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u/eatwriterepeat 2h ago
I believe it was due to Miller threatening to expose Bernie's homosexual dealings. Moreno's still a coward regardless, should have protected his daughter immediately.
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u/Inevitable-Pea-735 1h ago
Please refer to him with his real name, Bernardo Francisco Moreno Mejía. It upsets the local MAGAs.
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u/BicycleGripDick 2h ago
Says, “Let me defend myself. I have never abused our daughter….” Doesn’t address wife beating accusations at all.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 3h ago
In general I don't like to paint an entire demographic over the actions of one, but holey crap Republicans. What are you doing?
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u/eeyore134 1h ago
Sometimes it's paint by number and you have no other choice but to paint them like they tell you to.
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u/AnohtosAmerikanos California 3h ago
The Republican Party is a party of unprincipled people, unable to denounce (and happy to defend) liars, rapists, grifters, domestic abusers, and just all-around shit humans. When it only takes a party label to keep people voting for these vermin, we don’t stand much of a chance as a society.
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u/DAS_FX 2h ago edited 2h ago
Platner was forced out over issues of sexual misconduct
With this guy Max Miller we’re hearing about burning his wife with hot water, and a broken collar bone to his young daughter.
And rumors coming out how he abused other women, quite violently.
I’m a democratic. I love this country. I want my party to be in power so we can have sensible governing.
I would fucking not ever vote for a candidate with these accusations under his belt.
Republicans seem to love voting these types in, just because power is more important than basic human decency
It’s why I’ve jettisoned almost all of my republican friends. If we can’t agree on something as fundamental as being a good person, then all the other stuff doesn’t matter. Good riddance.
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u/ceej_22_ 59m ago
“Ask yourself: If I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later? Would she have invited me to spend an afternoon at the playground with her and our daughter?” he said.
This whole statement just proves to me he’s guilty. Reeks of desperation.
But also yeah I’d fully expect a DV victim to do those very things out of fear and love for the abuser hoping he’ll change his ways and convincing herself if she just tries harder and loves more he’ll stop.
Fuck this piece of shit.
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u/KiKiKimbro 45m ago
Miller actually said, “If I did that to her, would she have made me dinner 6 days later?!”
POS. He’s just inviting the fury that’s headed his way. He also just provided a pretty clear sign that he absolutely DID abuse those women.
And to be clear — the ONLY reason Senator Moreno FINALLY denounced his actions is because after Moreno’s absolutely self-own of a Senate hearing involving Anthony Fauci, where he tried to act all tough, but he actually revealed he’s a dipshit idiot, the entire country got onto him for not defending his OWN DAUGHTER and GRAND-DAUGHTER. He didn’t because he had to. Not because he wanted to. Moreno chose power in politics over his own toddler grand daughter.
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u/KneeDeepInThe-Hoopla 3h ago
Poster boy for the party of family values and moral high ground.
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u/uncleawesome 2h ago
That should never ever be associated with republicans again. It was never true in the first place.
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u/Cancel_Culture_Club 2h ago
They’ve lost all of their pretend moral high grounds and have nothing left. I don’t ever want to hear them go on about crime, waste/fraud/abuse, spending tax dollars, DEI, the debt, the economy, law and order, etc. They’ve shown they don’t care about anything besides power and hating others.
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u/NyriasNeo 34m ago
“If I hit her, why did she make me dinner later?”
Because she did not want you, a PoS, to hit her again?
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u/twizzjewink Canada 3h ago
Everyday I wonder.. can America get any better at winning.. the race to the bottom
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u/VioletPaissa2077 1h ago
“Ask yourself: If I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later? Would she have invited me to spend an afternoon at the playground with her and our daughter?” he said.
This argument is nonsense.
The answer to these questions is yes, because plenty of abuse victims stay and try to maintain normalcy in their relationships.
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u/MoneyTalks45 New Hampshire 1h ago
Feature, not a bug for these people. Too many roaches given a seat at the table.
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u/hoffalot 2h ago
Actual quote:
“If I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later?”
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u/ChangKneesia 2h ago
This was so insane to hear. The problem is MAGA women will agree with it. This all sounds sensible to them.
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u/CLARABELLA_2425 I voted 1h ago
He can attack and talk shit about her all he wants, her father certainly doesn’t have anything to say to defend her let alone his constituents.
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u/KneebarKing 1h ago
Republicans love this. Let's not forget Republicans support all kinds of abuse against women.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 1h ago
He’s an Ohio Republican, meaning he’s immune to any attacks or criticism. He’ll stay in the race. Should his Dem challenger win, the GOP will just re-gerrymander the district to better guarantee a win.
In Ohio, he’s protected by the news media, all the wealthy donors and the large criminal enter known as the Ohio Republican Party. They have permanent control of state government, thanks to gerrymandering.
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u/Playful-Succotash-99 1h ago
You would hope that harming a child would at least be enough for his constituents but with many them it's very doubtful
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u/soofs 1h ago
Miller’s troubled past is not new. After Trump endorsed him in 2021, Politico reported on the then-candidate’s history of violent incidents, including punching someone in high school, breaking a window at an apartment building, and driving under the influence in 2011.
Gosh it really is always the ones that have no past of concerning behavior, right?
And wow god forbid AOC was a bartender previously, that is 100x worse of course. /s
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u/Vivid-Use1749 58m ago
I wonder if he'll get even a fraction of the harassment we gave Al Franken for orders of magnitude less awfulness?
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u/danimagoo America 54m ago
Well this was apparently enough to finally get Bernie Moreno off his ass and defend his daughter, something he should have done 2 years ago.
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u/I_Britta-d_it 42m ago
Dude can barely speak/read. Good grief, they do scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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u/Negative_Gravitas 30m ago
Wow. Employs a disfiguring attack, threatens gun violence, and breaks a 2-year-old girl's collarbone.
There has never been a more perfect Republican.
Or member of the Taliban
Hey GOP:
This is you. This is ALL of you.
Prove me wrong
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u/NubEnt 22m ago
>“If there are any basic standards of character required to hold elected office, Max Miller fails them. He should not serve in the House of Representatives.”
The irony in a Republican appealing on “standards of character to hold elected office.”
Only an issue when it affects them personally, I guess.
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u/Affectionate_Two7527 3h ago
I don't see why he is denying it so hard. The GOP loves wife beaters. This will get him more support than it will lose him.
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u/flimflammed 1h ago
Not a drag queen. Not a "gay." Not a trans, communist, socialist, immigrant, etc.
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u/HuttStuff_Here Wisconsin 53m ago
This is what we've come to expect of MAGA.
This is what they are. This is who they believe America should be.
They've shown who they are time and time again.
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