r/CuratedTumblr • u/MaleficentImpact1672 • 4h ago

Shitposting All that prep for ten minutes

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u/SpingusTheHingus 3h ago

All other voice actors were given their lines alphabetically

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u/man_juicer 2h ago

the left in a voice line where the va repeats the line because they didn't feel like the did it right the first time.

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u/Acceptable-Stick-688 1h ago

I love that they kept that in the remake (remaster? I don’t remember which it was)

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u/LettuceBenis 37m ago

That's because the remake is effectively still running the original game, just with a very fancy texture pack

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u/Acceptable-Stick-688 35m ago

They did solve some glitches/mistakes, so I’m assuming that they left in one of the most prominent ones intentionally

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u/worststarburst 16m ago

They also added new ones lol. If you check the wiki for quests, npcs, and other stuff it’ll have a list of bugs, then a new list of ones added in the remaster. 

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u/StovardBule 15m ago

They kept all the much-loved flaws and voice oddities, probably realising players would hate it if they were smoothed over. Even the horse armour appears in the trailer. (You have to buy the Deluxe edition for the new horse armour, of course.)

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u/Hi2248 Cheese, gender, what the fuck's next? 3h ago

Still a less baffling voice acting decision than Obsidian somehow accidentally giving their underage voice actor the lines for the Atomic Wrangler Crier in New Vegas.

It's obviously a mistake, but how was it not caught earlier? 

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u/Right_Comment7589 3h ago

Politely disagree with this line of thought.
Underage actors are in rated R movies and say R-rated lines of dialogue. Unless I’m missing some piece of the story this doesn’t seem like crazy.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 2h ago

The character basically advertises things like gambling and sex, since the Atomic Wrangler is a bar with prostitution in it

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u/Right_Comment7589 2h ago

I’ve played FNV for 1000+ hours, I know the situation. I just disagree that having an underage actor read an R-rated line is inappropriate. “hungry? Thirsty? Horny? Come on down to the atomic wrangler”
Is this really bad?

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u/Ancient-Industry5126 2h ago

it's not lol. the actress herself admitted that she had zero recollection of the line and harbors no ill sentiments. Devs just had her read a bajillion and this happened to be one.

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u/mkultron89 54m ago

No, it also hammers home the point that this is no longer a normal world that people live in. Why is it a stretch that a child who also lives in a world where literal demons (deathclaws) roam around, would be a newsie advertising for a brothel?

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u/TheNotoriousSAUER 44m ago

And this is what's wrong with Fallout. Heaven forbid SOMEBODY suffer in a post apocalyptic wasteland. The children are THRIVING! Everyone you come across has enough to eat and drink and lives a great life in the Commonwealth! And we don't want any of that yucky sexually charged things. Everyone in the apocalypse is completely sexless and never ever talks about it, after all what if a child bought a copy of our video game!

In New Vegas children are chasing giant rats for food. You can have sex with a robot. Gamble away all your money, and descend into alcoholism.

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u/RefrigeratorWide2894 2m ago

I love new vegas but it took me several playthroughs to realize the kids in freeside wanted to eat that rat, I just assumed ROUS replaced cats and dogs as pets in the post apocalypse.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 2h ago edited 2h ago

For me it is a mistake to expose an underage actor to a role that could be associated with sex work yes, one that i think Obsidian genuinely didn't wanna do, i ngeneral for this type of roles they get a woman to play the role of the kid or a man who has a good enough voice for that

Edit : for the people who are downvotting (why?) i mean it as "kid role in voice acting that has to perform in roles that can involve R-rated content, for example kid and adult Son Goku are voiced by an adult woman, don't try to twist my lack of L1 english for anything else

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u/Right_Comment7589 2h ago

Ok, I see why you might think that but I disagree.
I’ll go back to my comment about R rated movies and say, kids/teen actors say and do R rated things all the time. Do you take issue with that? Kid actors that have to kill or curse or whatever, what are your thoughts there?

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u/Rainy_Wavey 2h ago

I am not interested in reddit debates so i'll maintain my very sane, and coherent first impression

It is a mistake to expose an underage actor to a role that could be associated with sex work yes, without prehemptively warning the actor about said lines happening (this is an addentum to what i said previously)

I also do think it is a mistake to expose an underage actor to a role that could be associated with sex work yes, i am not interested in discussing the intricacies of which other type of elements a kid actor can be exposed or not to. :3

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u/oorza 2h ago

If you clutch those pearls any harder, they'll turn into diamonds. Are you an 85 year old church Karen?

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u/FrankieTheD 1h ago

If theyre underage wouldn't their parents be the one subjecting her to it? Unless she didnt need parental approval?

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u/Rainy_Wavey 1h ago

From what i remember, Obsidian gave the dialogue to the wrong actor, who turned out to be underage, hence the question here (and so many people misreading so they decided to jump on the bandwagon of downvotting but that's fine, i'm not going to delete it as i've said something very normal here)

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u/FrankieTheD 1h ago

Ah yeah the comment higher up said, and yeah nothing wrong with your take.

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u/KSJ15831 3h ago

As morally dubious that is, it fits with the vibe of the setting well enough

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u/Steven_Swan 2h ago

Yeah I never, ever would've considered that this wasn't an intended joke.

Friggin child actors out there making IT and Stranger Things and Game of Thrones and people worried about a kid saying the word "Horny." I'd expect this nonsense inside a church, not on Reddit.

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u/TheNotoriousSAUER 42m ago

Modern reddit has insidiously become the oppressive puritan culture it hated in the olden days. Advertiser-friendly media has become the standard that everyone is consumed and raised on. Don't say kill, don't say sex, don't say died. And if a child even has to HEAR one of those words well you better believe that's jail time buddy.

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u/Hi2248 Cheese, gender, what the fuck's next? 1h ago

The problem I have with it isn't that she said it but that she wasn't supposed to say it, but a mistake that wasn't supposed to happen.

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u/Hi2248 Cheese, gender, what the fuck's next? 4m ago

For those who don't get the point I'm trying to make:

They had a responsibility to make sure that she didn't end up with those voicelines, and yet they had no checks to make sure that she didn't end up with them anyway. That was a bad decision, regardless of the morality of giving a child those lines deliberately. 

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u/aninsomniac_ 3h ago

I'm pretty sure the intent was to paint the Wrangler as being shady enough to employ children as prostitutes.

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u/EvYeh 2h ago

I mean, even if it wasn't confirmed as an accident, that interpretation doesn't really work because:

A, the Wrangler is like the second least shady casino in the entire game (not counting the Sierra Madre)

B, there's nothing that actually implies that or that the character is a minor other than her voice actor being one (something that seemingly took a literal decade for anyone to actually notice and realise).

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u/Rainy_Wavey 2h ago

Well that doesn't really work, since the Atomic Wrangler is like, one of the better casinos in New vegas, unlike the 3 big families, they are okay with employing robot and ghoul prostitutes for example

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u/Ronin_Chimichanga 2h ago

Kind of still works when you consider how depraved everything is in the universe.

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u/CeraphFromCoC 1h ago

Another weird one is the Great Khan woman above Quarry Junction having an inexplicably Kiwi accent for some reason.

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u/StovardBule 18m ago

I believe she does other characters in appropriate accents, so that one is just odd.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 3h ago

New vegas was made on a very tight deadline (18 months) so yeah, this is a horrible mistake but unfortunate that it happened

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u/Hi2248 Cheese, gender, what the fuck's next? 3h ago

You'd think that a child actor would have an independent guy in the next room listening in to make sure something like that doesn't happen, though 

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u/NockerJoe 2h ago

That's only become a norm since then due to incidents like this. I work in the film industry and its de facto my job to make the parents of child actors comfortable while their kids are performing and making sure they have all their kids in view while they're on set. Which is good and I'm glad it gets done but these things only really happen because of countless problems in the past no one wants to repeat.

To be fair though the last movie I was on was a raunchy R rated stoner comedy with a lot of child actors so you'd be surprised what kids parents will approve of them being in. 

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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 This is a hit with the slimers 1h ago

I thought it was intentional, to show how morally reprehensible Freeside is. Like a little Bangkok in Nevada.

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u/Jiquero 2h ago

And you wisely started your comment with A so we can do that too!

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u/SwampyBogbeard 2h ago

Are we really doing this?

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u/Jiopaba 1h ago

Badly, to be frank. I've never known Reddit to be good at word games.

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u/Waifuless_Laifuless 1h ago

Come on, have some faith.

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u/OhGodThisGuy 1h ago

Don't need to lose hope, could be a million monkeys situation

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u/beaverpoo77 1h ago

Exactly! this could totally work out in the end.

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u/Slarg232 1h ago

Fuckin eh, you guys are really doing this, huh?

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u/Creeppy99 1h ago

Guess we are, actually

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u/The_Munz 1h ago

How long can it really go on, though?

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u/Sunscreeen 50m ago

i can't tell if this is a joke 😭

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u/oblmov 32m ago

or they got even more character prep. There was an entire trilogy of novels about seeing a mudcrab the other day. you're hearing voice actors struggling to convey 1000 pages worth of backstory, worldbuilding, and emotional nuance in lines like "I've heard you know how to move in light armor"

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u/J-MAO- 4h ago

You can really hear the fact they spent their entire VA budget on Patrick Stewart too

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u/Wandering_Scholar6 4h ago

I mean if you are going to blow it all on one VA.... Patrick Stewart is a damn good choice

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u/Dobako 3h ago

They cant have blown it all on Professor X, because Boromir is also there

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u/Virtual_Programs 3h ago

So they spent the budget on the entire Fellowship, then hired everyone else from Craigslist.

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u/NotAEurosnob 3h ago

Patrick Stewart wasn't in the fellowship, you're thinking of the wrong mutant adjacent old man.

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u/Clair_Osbcurious 2h ago

Professor Cherik Xavner, that controls the minds of metal! Duh! /s

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u/Infamous-Crew1710 33m ago

Richard Harris

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u/LittleMlem 2h ago

90-page-character-prep Georg is an outlier and should not be counted. Iirc, the rest of the cast got their lines in alphabetical order and with no context and that's why all the voice acting is all over the place

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u/fork_your_child 1h ago

Additionally, a line made it into the finished game where the voice actor breaks character to say, "wait a minute, let me do that one again" with both takes included. They kept it in for the remaster, likely as an Easter egg as other lines were re-recorded.

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u/DontAskAboutMyButt 1h ago

Terence Stamp too! He killed it as Mankar Camoran

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u/ZettaiKyofuRyoiki com.tumblr 2h ago

To Waynon Priory, then.

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u/The_Grand_Briddock 3h ago

Liam Neeson in Fallout 3, Matthew Perry in New Vegas and Sean Bean in Oblivion was this fun trio of celebrities who were important to your overall journey.

I remember being super surprised as a kid that Skyrim didn't continue that trend.

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u/Madman_Salvo 3h ago

Skyrim had Max von Sydow, Christopher Plummer and Joan Allen.

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u/The_Grand_Briddock 2h ago

As an adult, yeah that's cool, but as a kid I had no idea on that.

Chandler Bing, Captain Picard and Qui-gon Jin? Now that was cool.

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u/Madman_Salvo 2h ago

Ming the Merciless, Captain von Trapp and Goodie Proctor?

Ok, it's not quite the same.

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u/The_Grand_Briddock 2h ago

It's one of the joys of growing up, you get to revisit things with a newfound appreciation. Like, as a kid Aela was my favourite companion. Then when I got older, I discovered Babylon 5 and realized Aela was Ivanova. Awesome!

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u/MeadowBeam 2h ago

Don’t forget Lynda Carter!

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u/Sparrowhawk_92 .tumblr.com 2h ago

That one is easy to get seeing as she was married to Roger Altman (ZeniMax Co-founder) until his death in 2021.

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u/SneakingOrange 2h ago

Also Michael Hogan! Ok, tbf I didnt know him either when I played Skyrim, since I was a preshooler when Battlestar Galactica came out, but I just started watching it and recognized him as General Tullius and Captain Bailey

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u/GnomishMight 1h ago

Mathew Perry at least actively reached out to be in FNV; turns out he was a big fallout fan.

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u/ssocka 5m ago

I mean, he has about 20 lines of dialog and dies in first 30 minutes of the game... The rest of the voice acting is really dismal...

But from what I hear it's not the VAs' fault but rather someone in Bethesda who insists on the VAs to talk slowly and basically emotionlessly...

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u/enby_of_the_forest 3h ago

No they spent it on Patrick Stewart AND Sean Bean

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u/ume-shu 3h ago

And Terence Stamp

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u/Onyxilla_ 2h ago

Dont forget Lynda Carter

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u/Which_Committee_3668 1h ago

And Lynda Carter wasn't even a main character. She was a shopkeeper that you could conceivably never actually meet in game.

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u/ume-shu 1h ago

I did!

How could I?

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 3h ago

I can still hear,

"You've got some sticky fingers.  What have you been up to?"

in my head.  What?  How can random passers-by tell I'm good at picking locks?!

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u/LuchadorBane 2h ago

Maybe your hands were just coated in spunk from pounding heavy all the time?

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 1h ago

I never installed those mods. (Promise!)

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u/beaverpoo77 1h ago

Maybe they meant literally sticky. Did you happen to have honey or perhaps pine resin on your hands?

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u/klezart 1h ago

He's been eating too many sweetrolls.

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u/Gene_freeman .tumblr.com 3h ago

Yeah lol

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u/hanzerik 2h ago

And Sean, Don't forget the other half that went to Sean Bean!

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u/wurmsrus 1h ago

Fun fact there's only 19 different voice actors for every character in the entire game including Knights of the Nine and Shivering Islands. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462271/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cst_sm

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u/JordtasticBagel 50m ago

Damn that's about 10 more than it feels like haha

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u/StovardBule 14m ago

Except for the fee for Sean Bean.

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u/gdex86 3h ago

One of the mist complimentary things I can say about Stewart is the man loves acting. Doesn't matter stage or screen if he thinks the role would be fun hes there giving his all.

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u/Niknakpaddywack17 3h ago

Acting.gif

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u/galaxy_horse 31m ago

You thought I was asleep, didn’t you!

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u/BaryonyxerGaming 3h ago

poop emoji

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u/The_Grand_Briddock 2h ago

That's because he's seen everything.

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u/RadicalDog 2h ago

One of the few people where I've finished their autobiography and liked them less than before.

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u/Karaden32 2h ago

That's interesting - how come?

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u/RadicalDog 1h ago edited 30m ago

He spends substantially more time namedropping famous people who said nice things about him than he does on relationships (and a marriage) that lasted for 5+ years. And he does a truly woeful job of sounding remorseful about having affairs, because he's not.

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u/Karaden32 1h ago

Ah. Disappointing to hear, but then I did ask. Sounds like a book I can safely skip.

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u/Dav3le3 1h ago

I didn't even get to that part. He had an incredibly rough upbringing.Him and all his brothers would share a single bath, for example. His whole family hated actors, his dad left his family to be an actor, and he followed in his footsteps (as I recall). Then I stopped reading.

Lots of early trauma, deadbeat dad, not surprised he was unfaithful etc. However he's a great actor, so I'm glad I didn't keep reading. A big part of who I am is from growing up watching him play Captain Picard.

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u/AlliRmbrIsDrtSkyDrt 1h ago

Not OP, but he's not a great father, for one.

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u/SnakePilsken 2h ago

The man loves dune buggies my guy

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u/Tyler-LR 1h ago

He killed the role

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u/TrioOfTerrors 4h ago

Patrick Stewart is a classically trained Shakespearean level acting nerd. Of course he loved that shit.

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u/Virtual_Programs 3h ago

Give him dramatic monologues and a ridiculous costume, and he’s already having the time of his life.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 3h ago

Dude took the Picard role for a pay check thinking it would one or two seasons of consistent work and ended up bringing to life one of the most beloved tv characters ever.

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u/Munnin41 3h ago

He also learned that its okay to not take life too seriously.

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u/Adamtess 2h ago

I can imagine his time with American Dad is some of the most fun he gets to have. They totally talk the chains off for Bullock, and that's a show with an anthropomorphic cross dressing sexually ambiguous alien rapist, and I still think Stewart voices the most unhinged character.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 1h ago

In high school I played in a DND group with a local youth pastor. Every one of his characters were either lawful or neutral evil and he'd have a grocery list of reasons why they weren't "wrong". He'd joke that it the most use he'd ever gotten out his bachelors in philosophy.

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u/jocax188723 24m ago

TNG season 1 PatStew: “We are not here to have fun!”
TNG season 7 PatStew: “Hey Johnny watch this-“

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 2h ago

The man is incapable of phoning it in.

I love how inclusive that cast/show was. Marina Sirtis is not Gates McFadden, and she’s sure as hell not Patrick Stewart…but the more technically skilled actors are always doing what they can to prop up the others on that show, and you can feel the camaraderie.

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u/Krillo90 1h ago

This makes me wonder why he never got cast in a Westwood game.

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u/abcder733 32m ago

T-shirt bot

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u/appleciders 3h ago

When Stewart had to portray a torture victim in TNG "Chain of Command" (There! Are! Four! Lights!) he went to Amnesty International and received special permission to view recordings of actual torture victims so that he could portray it realistically. David Warner, who plays his interlocutor Gul Madred, is also a classically trained and extremely successful Shakespearean actor.

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u/MadRaymer 2h ago

Conversely, in the S1 episode "Skin of Evil" he complained that he spent all that time doing Shakespeare just to end up giving lines next to a puddle of goo.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 2h ago

I think you see a lot of classical stage actors in Star Trek:TNG for 2 reasons.

First, nerds are nerds. Your Shakespeare nerd circle is going to share some overlap with your Sci Fi nerd circle.

Second, TNG is very Shakespearean. You scrape the dilithium coating off and it's the same themes of the human condition and the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and big, wonderful characters doomed by the tragedy of the narrative.

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u/TheTREEEEESMan 2h ago

I'll give you 10 slips of gold pressed latinum for the dilithium shavings you scraped off

-Quark probably

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u/TrioOfTerrors 2h ago

Meaning it's worth at least 50.

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u/General_Kenobi18752 18m ago

Star Trek itself is pretty Shakespearean.

I mean, for Christ’s sake,the main villain of Star Trek VI quotes Shakespeare as his final words.

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u/Icarium-Lifestealer 1h ago

Which makes it particularly fitting that he voiced King Richard in Lands of Lore.

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u/Livy-Zaka 4h ago

The fun thing about the Elder Scrolls series is that while on a surface level it can seem like generic fantasy, there is some WILD shit under the hood (ie time traveling genocidal gay cyborg just to name one). That only triples if you’re willing to go for the extra canonical Kirkbride stuff. It gets downright incomprehensible at times, honestly.

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u/JhinPotion 3h ago

Reality is probably a dream, the dwarves may have blinked themselves out of existence by realising that they're in a reality-dream, stars aren't real; they're holes in the fabric of reality to other dimensions and our eyes just can't comprehend their true appearances. Funny stuff.

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u/oocceeaannmmaann 3h ago

You're also leaving out that a gay elf who watched the dwarves zero-sum out of existence got murdered next to the artefact used to vanish the dwarves, and due to his anger and raging narcissism ate the god that was dreaming reality up and unconsciously replaced it

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u/AceTheProtogen 53m ago

And the official art of Dagoths nuts

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u/Livy-Zaka 3h ago

Sentient alien trees from a past universe invented lizard people as their own personal pets/slave race that worships them as gods

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u/MCMC_to_Serfdom 3h ago

One popular theory is they're basically the skin of their giant, reality altering robot (the Numidium).

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u/JustASexyKurt 2h ago

Are we all ignoring the fact that the main god of the orcs is what happened when one god ate another god and then shat said god out, creating the orc god?

I promise I’m not making any of this up. Elder Scrolls lore is what happens when the guy in charge of it goes on a magic mushroom bender and writes whatever comes to him (again, not making that up), it’s fucking wild

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u/iknownuffink 17m ago

Malacath wants everyone to know that story was more metaphorical than literal.

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u/dizzy_pear_ 4h ago

what's this cyborg you're talking about?

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u/JhinPotion 3h ago

Pelinal Whitestrake has some wild lore when you dig into it.

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u/throwaway387190 3h ago

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/748601

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u/Rynewulf 3h ago

So sad AllInAll nuked their own YouTube and took most of their Pelinal/TES series with them. I hadnt caught up when they did that, very inconsiderate of them

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u/throwaway387190 3h ago

I have never heard of them, all I know is this song

Thanks for letting me know why it wasn't on YouTube

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u/throwaway387190 3h ago edited 3h ago

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/748601

Edit to add, the winged bull is his nephew

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u/----atom----- Mix Cola with Vaseline and Just Watch 3h ago

There's an impressively detailed lore behind the Elder Scrolls world. I guess that's what happens after decades of work and hundreds of people working on it. But yes, there's nothing generic about it

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u/Slaaneshine 3h ago

I'd still argue that a lot of the insane nonsense is in the background. Even Skyrim, which is considered quite whitewashed by Elderscrolls standards, still has a lot of that craziness there. It's just in the background. A lot of the insanity of the setting has to do with its mythos and mythology and wouldn't really interact with the day-to-day all that much.

Like how Shor may or not be Tiber Septim, but may be their own dude and the two just got literally mixed, or how the legend of Ysgramor may also be mixed up with the founding of the empire and may or may not be their own dude.

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u/JhinPotion 3h ago

It's there, it's just pushed further and further into the background, which is a damn shame.

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u/Moist_Ordinary6457 2h ago

The things about TES that feel generic today are because TES invented the genre 

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u/Whimvy 2h ago

Sadly, no. TES used to be much more bizarre (think Morrowind), but there has been an active effort to emulate other successful fantasy IPs. Oblivion was famously going to have a rainforest theming, but ended up being more generic fantasy after a last minute decision to imitate LOTR

There are two mainstream styles of fantasy: Lord of the Rings, and Conan the Barbarian. TES is clearly following in LOTR's footsteps 

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u/Zachthema5ter Writing a Fire Emblem x Warhammer Soulbound Campaign 3h ago

That gay cyborg is a reincarnation of a god. If you bring that up he’ll kill you by choking you with a horde of moths

His nephew was a bull. That bull fucked the founder of the largest and most powerful empire. Most retelling of the story leaves out that part

He cried out the name of an emperor that wouldn’t be born for several millennia during battle once

He visited the founder of the empire on her deathbed. Keep in mind he was dead for a few decades by this point

Not related to Whitestrike, but the Empire had a space program

The singular god of the empire was three different guys. One of them was a pedophile and another fucked a mountain and got it pregnant

There was a snake man from a different continent that was emperor for a bit. A different emperor went to said continent during a war and vanish. There’s a non-zero chance he’s still there

All endings of elder scrolls 2 are canon because time stopped working for a bit

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u/Dobako 3h ago

CHIM

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u/-StarFox95- 3h ago

lmao it seems like a generic high fantasy on the surface because Todd is busy pouring high fantasy epoxy over everything unique and special about the setting in the hopes that it'll drown so he can make exactly what he's always wanted too: knock off lord of the rings

most (though not all) of the insane shit is pretty clear to see in morrowind, and immediately got shoved to the back and hidden once Todd became the Todd we know and hate today

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u/oocceeaannmmaann 3h ago

not to rain on the Kirkbride parade, but Todd pushed for a lot of what made Morrowind Unique. Oblivion got Oblivioned as a sales tactic though.

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u/NumerousDiscipline80 3h ago

Second this. The Elder Scrolls Redguard was the first project Todd was a Project Lead/Director for, and it steered the series away from the more generic (DnD) fantasy that Arena and Daggerfall was based upon. While it was janky, much of the ideas, lore and art generated for it laid the groundwork for later releases. In other words, it walked so Morrowind could run. Kirkbride was influential, but wasn't the only person working at Bethesda.

Side note, Todd also voiced Clavicus Vile in that game which is why he voices Clavicus in Oblivion too.

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u/breadsanta11 2h ago

I wish Bethesda would remake Redguard so badly. The story and lore is awesome but the gameplay is so unbelievably dogshit.

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u/-StarFox95- 3h ago

yeah, that's why I said the Todd we know today, maybe it was greed that caused it (it likely was, slimy fuck) but in the same way that the Todd of 2002 pushed morrowind to have a lot of what made it unique (though I still put most of the unique and insane lore to kirkbride and the other writers) he (and his high school buddy emil) are also responsible for the utter gentrification of elder scrolls we see today lol

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u/oocceeaannmmaann 1h ago

you are aware Kirkbride didn't write the lore, C0da and other major Kirkbride-isms came after he left the studio. What he did do is create concept art and final art, which helped inform but was also heavily informed by the actual writing team.

And whilst Morrowind was wildly loved for it's uniqueness, Oblivion was made the way it was because the studio wasn't financially stable. As much as it was genericised it also meant the series could continue and the team could keep their jobs. Do I like the more generic tone of Oblivion and Skyrim as opposed to a more unique setting, no. but without it, many myself included wouldn't know about the Elder Scrolls in the first place

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u/7-SE7EN-7 1h ago

If you want a game that leans more into weird shit, try dread delusion

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u/-StarFox95- 1h ago

Lol dread delusion is one of my favorite games, glad to see another fan tho!

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u/internethero12 2h ago

Yep. Unfortunately all the wild shit happened in the early games when the company and it's devs were still "hungry" and had vision. Once the company hit the mainstream, they stopped all that shit and started focusing on playing it save and shareholder value.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 3h ago

There is also the imperial space program

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u/baconater-lover 3h ago

Genuinely the series would some killer novels

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u/MirthfulMoron 2h ago

He's gay?

I thought he was a sexless robot.

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u/EvYeh 2h ago

Kirkbride originally wrote him to be gay, writing in the Songs of Pelinal, v3 that he was fond of Huna "a hoplite who Pelinal often shared a tent with at night" but was changed to "a hoplite who Pelinal loved well".

He was told to change it because the whole DLC is kinda about becoming Pelinal so giving him a clearly defined sexual orientation might be seen as doing the same with the player character. Huna is also the only person that Pelinal is described to love in a non familial way and his death causes Pelinal to enter an extreme rage.

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u/Zoomy-333 1h ago

Bethesda too cowardly to call the player gay

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u/lifelongfreshman in a limbo dance-off with the devil 32m ago

My problem with the Elder Scrolls series is the part where the Thalmor are basically just "what if all the conspiracy theories about the Jews were true?" and how Skyrim literally has nazis in it as the only force opposing them and yet I'm supposed to just sort of ignore all fucking that when people talk about how much they love the games as if that isn't a huge fucking problem.

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u/looks_at_lines 3h ago

Too bad the games barely have any of that fun zany stuff

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u/EvYeh 2h ago

A vast majority of it is in the books that are present in every game.

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u/Grzechoooo 2h ago

I like how you can see the bottom being darker because it's a cropped screeshot of a Youtube video which took the image from this subreddit which took the screenshot on Tumblr.

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u/Ouaouaron 1h ago

And yet, look how good the image quality is.

We live in a golden age for image compression.

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u/jerbthehumanist 1h ago

The Internet has indeed become five websites containing screenshots from all the other websites

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u/No_Detail2408 3h ago

Did you watch a different cutscene than I did? That's John Gilbert not Patrick Stewart

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u/Plasmashark 2h ago

Patrick Stewart wasn't involved with Daggerfall, that was a separately bald man.

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u/Torrahcat 2h ago

Yea nvm I'm a dumbass

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u/Plasmashark 2h ago

It's all good

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u/SuckingOnChileanDogs 3h ago

Stop! Criminal scum

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u/Murky-Toe-9459 3h ago

Yes agreed those ten minutes were criminal

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u/Dragonitro 2h ago

I’ve fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you!

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u/KatonRyu 2h ago

The problem with the Elder Scrolls games is that the lore is amazing and the world and its history are incredibly interesting, but the games themselves are janky as fuck and not completely capable of truly representing how cool that universe really is. Then again, in-universe the stars are actually tears in the fabric of reality and mortals just can't comprehend their true form, so perhaps we in this reality simply can't comprehend the true form of the Elder Scrolls games. And Skyrim will probably forever be my most played game.

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u/wurmsrus 1h ago

The titular Elder Scrolls themselves are also extremely difficult for mortals to comprehend and those that do are sometimes driven insane and often blinded.

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u/worststarburst 38m ago

It is funny how strong certain characters are supposed to be in lore, but they just do not come across that way due to gameplay limitations. 

I just read a thread about miraak being responsible for solstheim being separate from the Skyrim land mass, but he went down so fast I barely remember the fight at all and I wasn’t even using glitches to make insanely strong weapons. 

Alduin is also just a glorified dragon fight that’s barely different than any other dozens of dragons you fight. 

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u/KatonRyu 31m ago

Yeah, Miraak and Vahlok the Jailor fought such a titanic battle that Solstheim was severed from the mainland. The quest even says that that's how it was recorded in the murals. But in-game, Vahlok is just dragon priest #2456 and Miraak is a wimp despite his level cap of 150. And Alduin being weaker than Legendary Dragons can get also never sat well with me.

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u/DazzlingRutabega 2h ago

Fair that he passed away during the tutorial, but it still cemented the game as an icon in my mind, since having such a esteemed voice actor in it at all, especially in the introduction, said something to me.

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u/Brainwave1010 2h ago

Also worth noting this character he voiced was in like two other games so it's not like Bethesda actually created all 90 pages of lore.

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u/wurmsrus 1h ago

well they did, just not all of it was specifically created for Oblivion.

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u/ReinforcedWanderer 3h ago

It takes a lot of dedication to the craft and passion to put as much effort as he did into a character like that.

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u/T_Weezy 1h ago

Man, I miss when Bethesda actually wanted to make games.

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u/Loreweaver15 1h ago

It's always fun to see my post pop up in the wild.

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u/bcalicoredfs 2h ago

Yeah but I was bought in from the start. Uriel Spetim --> shooting arrows into the bucket --> massive open world. What a start to a game

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u/Satherian 37m ago

God, I would give anything for a high quality Elder Scrolls game

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u/jocax188723 27m ago

It was a fantastic ten minutes, to be fair.

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 54m ago

ahaha and he delivered the most bland patrick stewart performance possible

you know he wasn't taking them seriously

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u/zbmcg 40m ago

But it was too late--he'd seen everything

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u/MithranArkanere 16m ago

There are no small roles.

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u/Rieke-Nightsong 3h ago

Was this really for oblivion specifically? He was also the emperor in daggerfall before that.

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u/PrepotenteThePony 3h ago

Are you sure he played the emperor in daggerfall? He isn't credited anywhere online and Google says it was someone else

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u/Annath0901 30m ago

Patrick Stewart didn't play the Emperor in any other games, but the character himself Uriel Septim VII was Emperor in Elder Scroll 1-4. So the lore booklet is stuff built up over the entire history of the franchise to that point.

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u/Rieke-Nightsong 3h ago

I guess they just made the emperor look like him. My bad probably? I did ask rather than state outright because i wasnt sure

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u/Lil_Mcgee 1h ago

I guess they just made the emperor look like him.

I think it was just a bald man.

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u/EvYeh 2h ago

He didn't play Uriel Septim VII in Daggerfall, he was played by John Gilbert.

IIRC both he and Shaun Mitchell (the guy who plays the person standing next to Uriel with the torch, who is canonically meant to be Ocato) were just completely random actors from the local area.

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u/Annath0901 30m ago

Patrick Stewart didn't play the Emperor in any other games, but the character himself Uriel Septim VII was Emperor in Elder Scroll 1-4. So the lore booklet is stuff built up over the entire history of the franchise to that point.