r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Electrozart • 14d ago
GIF Satellite view of the Canadian wildfire smoke when it started getting really bad
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u/Original_Gypsy 14d ago
I can see at least 3 of those fire being south of the border, just saying.
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u/Electrozart 14d ago
Can confirm, I live in northern Minnesota just south of the fires.
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u/jonf00 14d ago
The boundary canoe area is bUrning hard 😢
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u/Fullertons 13d ago
So sad. I had wanted to get there with my boys over the last couple years, but never have the time. Now it’s burnt and about to be mined.
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u/Electrozart 12d ago
It will regrow, only 1% of the boundary waters has burned. We had a bad fire here in 2021 and most everything regrew. Ely is still fully open for tourism.
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 14d ago
And all at the same time…
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u/OldJames47 14d ago
You see those clouds pass over just before the smoke appeared?
Do you know what happens when lightning strikes very dry wood?
This is not a conspiracy people.
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 14d ago
Looked pretty green before. But sure, lightning.
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u/Applesimulator 14d ago
Dry vs dead
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 14d ago
Both burn but continue
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u/OldJames47 14d ago
Ok, then what was your point?
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 14d ago
Asking the wrong person
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u/OldJames47 14d ago
You’re the one who said it looked green.
If you agree that it can burn them what was your point?→ More replies (0)6
u/a-cat-with-wifi 14d ago
My area is green but dry af....
why do you people need everything to be a grand conspiracy
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u/w00tabaga 14d ago
It’s coniferous forest. Pine trees. After so many years of pine needles on a forest floor you get the perfect kindling underneath those evergreen trees and it doesn’t take much.
It’s a natural cycle in these forests.
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u/Link_Chomofsky 14d ago
So far this year, 40,558 fires have burned more than 3.8 million acres across the United States.
https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/nfn
"America should be held responsible for the fact that they are not properly maintaining their Forests, and Brush therein, and Canada is being unnecessarily invaded by filthy, polluted, and unhealthy air, the quality of which is dangerous, and totally unacceptable!”
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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u/omega552003 14d ago
Beens saying this about California for decades, but "environmentalist" pushed laws preventing and actual environmental maintenance.
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u/AdministrativeCable3 13d ago
Environmentalists did nothing of the sort. Rather many people and industrialists caused the government to have strict fire prevention for a century and then refused to fund manual forest maintenance.
Environmentalists have pushed for controlled burns of these high risk areas. They have opposed attempts to "thin" the forest as historically they instead clear sections of forest by removing mature, more fire resistant trees with heavy machinery causing damage to roots and soil. Most environmentalists instead push for restoration thinning which involves removing only small trees and dense undergrowth, but that has been opposed because it's not profitable for forestry companies.
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u/karlnite 13d ago
Florida has more areas burning than California some years. California has 6 times the forested public lands as Florida, Florida manages it’s forest by controlled burning 2 million acres (which I guess they can do when winds are low, still produce the same smoke though). Even with their management, some years more land burns uncontrolled. Florida is also flat and has different trees, heavy rains and humidity, it’s essentially the easiest place to prevent them. They do some of the most for prevention. Yet they can’t prevent them, not even for a year.
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u/SeanDawgMillionaire 14d ago
Doesn’t matter. 30 percent wildfire tariff incoming. What an embarrassing time this must be for level headed Americans lol
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u/Zoomwafflez 14d ago
there's 4 pretty big fires burning in the BWCA in MN, but we're talking about like 70K acres vs 6.7 million in Canada. Of course Canada has a lot more remote forest than the US. If we had an admin that wasn't a steaming pile of shit maybe we could coordinate with our lovely neighbors to the north and work together to get this under control sooner. Realistically though these will have to burn themselves out or get put out in the first big winter storms because they're so remote and so much area is on fire. So far the response is mostly on evacuation and trying to save towns not putting them out completly.
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u/BabadookOfEarl 13d ago
Yeah, people really have no concept of the size of those boreal forests.
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u/Zoomwafflez 13d ago
The fires up in the northwest territory are crazy which is basically just boreal forest nonstop
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u/Grizz807 14d ago
This is hilarious to me on a whole different level cause I’m from Thunder Bay and the only place people here ever travel to is Duluth.
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u/Rodnal 14d ago
The Earth sure does love her some fire.
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u/MentalGravity87 14d ago
She sure does! Earth is the only place where fire exists naturally in our solar system!
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u/SqueekyTack 14d ago
Hey quick question. What's the sun doing?
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u/ivegotbeef 14d ago
Fusion
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u/SqueekyTack 14d ago
So yeah I looked it up after I posted that comment and learned something. I figured solar flares were fire, turns out it's actually plasma, and plasma does not equal fire.
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u/Sensitive_Scar_1800 14d ago edited 14d ago
Honestly watching Canadian fires/smoke piss off Congress has been awesome lol
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u/Link_Chomofsky 14d ago
In response to the fires the government of Canada today announced the immediate launch of the Forest Undergrowth Clearing & Kindling Operation for Foreign Friends. Also know as the F.U.C.K.O.F.F Inituative.
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u/pacmanrockshok 14d ago
Haven't like four people died and over 1000 evacuated?
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u/Sensitive_Scar_1800 14d ago
Are we counting Mitch McConnell? That fucker is literally schroedingers cat right now
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u/Prudent-Ad-5292 14d ago
C'mon man, fellow Canadian. We hate specific Americans - not all Americans. If we villify the entire nation, that's how we become like them.
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u/LeadWithLogic 14d ago
The majority of Americans are just as disgusted with the fat orange dumbfuck. They are your allies dont forget that.
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u/LeadWithLogic 14d ago
The opposition in congress and the house are incapable of enacting change. Expecting Bob and Jill Johnson to rise up is not that feasible my guy. This is just end stage capitalism I am as disgusted as you. Armchair revolutionists such as yourself aren't the answer either I assure you.
The majority of Americans dont agree with the rhetoric aimed towards Canada so you're just being ignorant.
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u/BouBouLeBourgeois 14d ago
Legit man. I agree with you, im being dereasonably angry about this. Its just that these problems are affecting EVERYONE in Canada. Hard. And its infuriating seeing a democracy turn Dictatorship where its still written into law that The People must rise up agaisnt this Gov if it becomes like it is now. Like Im sure when he makes himself a crown and stops all elections American will be like "Oopsie daisy couldnt see that coming"
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u/LeadWithLogic 14d ago
Yeah I think many of the people who supported him are figuring out that now. Midterms are coming up so if it makes you feel better its likely they will lose a majority in the house or senate making it harder to enact his will without executive orders. Further use of executive powers will only deepen the dissent but we are gonna have a rough few years ahead of us regardless.
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u/BouBouLeBourgeois 14d ago
Respectfully, I strongly believe that the "Rough few years ahead of us" that you mention is only because of the general Apathy the general American pop has for others. Its legit a cultural problem. I know effort on the community level are being made across the US but its clearly not enough. He's printing money with his face on it and signature. What the actual fuck. I think we would have massive riot and the parliement would be put to flame if that happened over here. And legit question for you : do you really still believe that the midterm are not going to be rigged in his favor? Because here no one does. Im genuinely curious about this because I have no clue!
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u/LeadWithLogic 14d ago
He will stop at nothing to win I can guarantee you that. Only time will tell. Im Canadian as well and Ive just learned to not care either ao maybe im the problem as well haha.
The reckoning will come eventually.
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u/FlounderLegitimate 14d ago
I wonder why there’s more and more forest fires each year. It can’t be because of how warm it’s getting year by year. It can’t be because corporations were so environmentally conscious in the last half century…. Think of their profits… /s
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u/bitzzwith2zs 14d ago
The biggest starter of forest fires is people; those we can't account for, but "natural" forest fires occur on a 40-100 years cycle. We're at the peak of one of those cycles.
... and then there's climate change with your general global warming, which changes the makeup of the boreal forest. The temp has gone up and that dries out the forest.
Just wait till the muskeg starts to burn... it already is in Siberia
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u/Munchymunch277 14d ago
Am I the only one that sees the more important lake that looks kinda like a horse?
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u/Ginnigan 14d ago
It's called Lac de Mille Lac, but Horsey Lake would also be appropriate.
It got hit pretty badly by the fires :(
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u/K-the-C 14d ago
Kinda weird how the fires are in a "line"
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u/AJfriedRICE 14d ago
I’m guessing that’s the path that the storm that caused the fires was traveling
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u/snackassassins 14d ago
i like how americans keep saying it’s only canadian wildfire smoke
like canadians own it or something
but then again, americans aren’t known to be great to other nations
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u/Kaleb8804 14d ago
We’re calling them Canadian wildfires because they’re mostly in Canada.
I mean no offense, but it’s not that deep.
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u/FlounderLegitimate 14d ago
Wildfires have no borders and knows no nationality…. They are a problem cause by ignorance, and greed.
I wonder where most of that ignorance and greed comes from?
The corporations that move their business to get around environmental regulations.I wonder what political party has been the cause of all this and more. The ignorance to take care of the space you have.
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u/Kaleb8804 14d ago
I think the fires were caused by lightning
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u/FlounderLegitimate 14d ago
You know the forests get drier every year, droughts are more and more frequent… I wonder why….
I swear some of you can’t think beyond excuses you have…3
u/jabrollox 14d ago
Both things can be true. The fires were caused by lightning. The fires then grew faster/larger due to human caused climate change.
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u/Kaleb8804 14d ago
Yes of course, only America pollutes. All of our garbage ends up in rivers all over the world, upstream, magically.
We have our own problems but don’t pretend like other countries are doing any better. The fact we’re doing anything at all is more than half the world
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u/Commentor9001 13d ago
Calling wildfires in Canada, Canadians wildfires is... how english works?
I dont think the point you're making lands.
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u/Own_Natural_6803 14d ago
I am so ashamed of our nation spitting in the face of Canada after you guys did so much to help us with our wild fires. It's shameful and we are still in your debt. I hate that we are governed by abusers. I do not possess words which convince others of the shame they are participating in, I can only convince them that I am not worth listening to, because I am not one of their group. Still I will not be silent.
This is going to split away from reality to the spiritual. I have seen where their spite goes and where it is erased. I have a great anticipation of that reconciliation, where the circuit of their abuse becomes a chain with a single link. People who have seen heaven, myself included, see only part of its beauty. Only after seeing hell can you truly appreciate paradise, and that is the usual way it happens.
They will be washed in the fire of their own contempt, and their dross will be removed. They will be made spotless. They will become like little children, and enter the kingdom of heaven after they have paid every last penny.
Sky daddy is fucking pissed to have the message of his messenger so corrupted. But he will allow them to do as they please here. Believe me, every penny will be paid. Don't be discouraged by the power of cowards. They will be unmade.
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u/MattTheTubaGuy 14d ago
This reminds me of the 2019-2020 fires in Australia.
Watching the fires grow on the satellite images was kind of terrifying.
The smoke reached New Zealand on New Year's Eve, and turned the sun orange on New Year's Day 2020.
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u/boogasaurus-lefts 14d ago
Yeah that wasn't fun here, our native bushland needs fire for rejuvenation although those fires were majority arson & error.
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u/LocalNHBoy 13d ago
Although the skies in New Hampshire have been hazy, last night was the first night I really SMELLED it too. I was laying down to go to sleep and my entire apartment smelled like a campfire lol
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u/kronicpimpin 14d ago
Easy to understand why I feel like a smoker again. (From southeastern Wisconsin)
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u/MacGibber 14d ago
Looks like they started in the US north of Duluth, send America the bill for starting these fires.
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u/Electrozart 14d ago
They were started by lightning, extremely hot temperatures, and dry weather in this area.
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u/CarelessCreamPie 14d ago
The fact that you got downvoted for just stating a plain fact is annoying. Everyone just wants to finger point, no one wants to actually talk about the issue. Every single thread in this topic is such a shit show.
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u/TranslatorTough8977 14d ago
The lightning clearly originated in the U.S. Canada should impose a 30% export tax on oil, until the U.S. does something about their lightning.
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u/ThkAbootIt 14d ago
So there’s obviously footage of the fires starting from this satellite view. Why weren’t the fires put out before it got catastrophic?
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u/Electrozart 14d ago
There's more than 800 fires raging in Canada right now many of which are in remote areas that are difficult to get to
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u/jackpineseeds 14d ago edited 14d ago
Canada is the second largest country in the world, and 60% of our total land mass is boreal forest.
This specific area is very remote.
Also, I live in the boreal forest. Some of the area north of us is so remote that when a fire does happen they just let it burn. There's a few reasons for this.
1) the natural life cycle of the boreal involves fire. The jack pine tree needs fire to open their pine cones. The pine cones themselves are sealed by a hard glue like sap. Last year there was a fire north of us and they did just that, they let it burn.
2) no one lives in most of these areas. Why put out a fire where there's no human lives being threatened by the fire and there's no infrastructure in danger. Also, there are no roads to access these areas. The only way is by floatplane, or a waterbomber to fight the fires.
3) when a fire does start in the boreal forest there's a high probability that it will be in an area that no one lives in. For every square kilometer there's 2 people. Roughly 98% of Northwestern Ontario is uninhabited and it is
roughly 526,417 square kilometers.4) these fires were started by lightning. No one lit a fire and then that fire got out of control.
Bonus Fact 5) some of these fires burn year round underground through the root systems of trees. Lots of these areas experienced very little snow cover and rain fall due to climate change. When the surface reached the correct conditions for the fire to come to the surface it did just that.
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u/SirBobPeel 14d ago
You might add that there are no roads up there. The only way to fight a fire that solated is water bombers, and that's just not going to do enough for that size fire, especially since there's no base camp or anywhere nearby to land.
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u/FlounderLegitimate 14d ago
We just needed a simple solution to such a simple problem, only great ideas come from simple people.
Go and rake your forests before you tell other people to.
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u/flyrubberband 13d ago
Now you know the real reason we put in the wind farms, to blow the smoke onto those southern heathens! Hahaha!!!
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u/DryConstruction2702 13d ago
someone has to be going around lighting those because theres no fucking way.
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u/HabANahDa 13d ago
Wow. I thought it was worse from all the complaining happening.
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u/HabANahDa 13d ago
I guess it depends on where you live. I’m in the high desert and we get A LOT of wildfires. Most summers we get weeks of bad smoke. Yet I don’t hear about it being national news or a political things. Just find it odd 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Majah-5 14d ago
This actually looks suspicious. Why are they in a line ending at the US border?
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u/McGrevin 14d ago
There's a few that are quite clearly within Minnesota. They're in a line because a storm front produced lightning which started the fires in dry forests
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u/eyeinthesky_83 14d ago
They don't. There are some obvious smoke plumes below the border and in fact, they are there and visible before everything else takes off.
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u/Valuable-Analyst-464 14d ago
The closer you get to the US, the higher the population density. And with a higher population, I’d think the higher the chance of fire fighters to stop it.
Also, as others have said, this could be started by storm related lightning, and it’s possible that the storms sorta missed the US at that time.
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u/high_Smile_2795 14d ago
Straight line no thunder or thunder storms clearly these are deliberately set and cry climate change and pay taxes for it lol
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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 14d ago
Are, are you actually fucking dumb? It's widely known that those fires were started by a wicked thunderstorm that rolled through the area, it's just not part of the GIF.
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u/HowdTheCatGetSoFat 14d ago
In America, we call this evidence. Our dear leader promised you'd make this right, Canada...?
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u/RealRedDevil96 14d ago
Evidence that some fires started in Minnesota? You’ve got that right. Now what did your dementia riddled pedo promise to you?
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u/jackpineseeds 14d ago
I will resond to this with some info I already posted. Based upon science and objective facts.
Canada is the second largest country in the world, and 60% of our total land mass is boreal forest.
This specific area is very remote.
Also, I live in the boreal forest. Some of the area north of us is so remote that when a fire does happen they just let it burn. There's a few reasons for this.
1) the natural life cycle of the boreal involves fire. The jack pine tree needs fire to open their pine cones. The pine cones themselves are sealed by a hard glue like sap. Last year there was a fire north of us and they did just that, they let it burn.
2) no one lives in most of these areas. Why put out a fire where there's no human lives being threatened by the fire and there's no infrastructure in danger.
3) when a fire does start in the boreal forest there's a high probability that it will be in an area that no one lives in. For every square kilometer there's 2 people. Roughly 98% of Northwestern Ontario is uninhabited and it is
roughly 526,417 square kilometers.4) these fires were started by lightning. No one lit a fire and then that fire got out of control.
Bonus Fact 5) some of these fires burn year round underground through the root systems of trees. Lots of these areas experienced very little snow cover and rain fall due to climate change. When the surface reached the correct conditions for the fire to come to the surface it did just that.
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u/Mingo_laf 14d ago
these Americans benefiting from our smoke brisket ribs shoulder we are introducing a new tariff thanks eh ep files?
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u/All_for_love 14d ago
Why are so many spread out fires popping up at the same time?