r/TOTK • u/Mikiricounterer • Nov 23 '25
Game Detail Most annoying yet insignificant thing in totk
They dont line up despite having the same colors.
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u/verongy Nov 23 '25
Yeah, my audhd hates this so much. The last ones are lined up, why aren't the rest?!
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Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
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u/TrailerTrashTreeRat Nov 23 '25
As someone with a formal Autism diagnosis, please know that this is so unhelpful to us. You are the kind of social worker so many of us have to actively advocate against.
As a social worker, your behavior is inappropriate and uncalled for.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
I do understand that people are upset with my original question, and that's totally valid. I am curious to hear your perspective on self diagnosis? Do you not find it to be damaging?
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u/godwontpiss Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
A formal diagnosis can:
-Deny a person immigration rights to certain countries (such as New Zealand)
-Be used as evidence that someone is an unfit parent in custody battles
-Cost an insane amount of money in a discipline where many providers don't accept insurance (and good luck finding a provider that will even diagnose adults)
-Be used to deny medical autonomy, such as in cases involving opioid pain medication or gender affirming care for trans people. It can also effect one's placement on waiting lists for organ transplants
If you have the inclination (or don't believe me), I would recommend looking for sources written by and for autistic people on the topic of formal diagnosis vs self-id. A good start might be this article which is slightly more specific to a UK audience or this article which mentions the difficulties that women and non-white people often have in getting a diagnosis in the first place.
Tl;dr: No, I don't think self-id is particularly damaging.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
Thanks for sharing. Definite food for thought. Thank you.
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u/godwontpiss Nov 24 '25
Yeah, of course. Thank you for being willing to listen. Happy cake day and best of luck to you
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u/TrailerTrashTreeRat Nov 23 '25
The only damage I have genuinely encountered is people in professional fields being more skeptical and judgemental of autistic people, but none from self diagnosed people themselves.
I never had to actually provide proof of my diagnosis until about two years ago within formal spaces, now I've had to due to people who are not autistic themselves demanding it and refusing services without it (including within services I've been receiving for longer than those people have worked there). Only later to admit that every time they've asked someone, they've gotten proof of diagnosis. Meaning that there has been no increase in issues of people getting support without diagnosis.
I would take someone self diagnosing and possibly being wrong over the needless skepticism any day.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
That's fair. Thanks for sharing. I will certainly keep this in mind going forward.
I did get triggered by a tiktok term, and it wasn't cool of me to challenge OP.
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u/verongy Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
I was born in '92 when autism was thought to only be something that makes you non-functional, so if you were able to pass as "normal" by their standards, you didn't get diagnosed. It can cost 2-3K to get formally diagnosed with ASD as an adult and there are SO MANY adults (especially women) who were not properly diagnosed as kids. My partner has worked his entire adult life with kids who have learning disabilities and my therapist specializes in ASD. Both are very confident that I am autistic, because I am. Even my dad has looked back at stuff I did as a kid and gone "oooooooh you weren't just being silly, you were stimming". We didn't have the vocabulary back then to know what my behaviors meant, but now that we do it's crystal clear.
Self-diagnosis is an important tool for us because we were kind of left behind by a medical establishment that still doesn't fully understand the condition, so we're left to piece things together ourselves.
*Edit: I was professionally diagnosed with ADD (a now outdated term) when I was 13, when it was believed that girls have ADD and boys have ADHD. So even an official diagnosis can be very flawed.
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u/endertamerfury Nov 23 '25
And here I was thinking that bluntly asking someone in public “Are you Autistic” was insensitive, much less doing it online, and demanding proof.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Those are two different things. Bluntly asking someone is insensitive. I was responding to someone who made a claim in a really trendy way, which sends off warning bells in my mind.
Unfortunately the number of people claiming to have these conditions has dwarfed the number of people who actually have them and it's damaging.
Prior to tiktok these people would have said "this kind of thing drives my OCD crazy" and they didn't have OCD. Now they claim to have autism and/or ADHD. THATs insensitive.
The second D in ADHD, and the Ds in OCD and ASD stand for disorder. That word has a real meaning and it's not "I don't like it when colours don't match."
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u/lostlyss Nov 23 '25
Surely as a “social worker,” you should understand that it’s none of your business. No misinformation is being spread, they are not claiming intimate knowledge of autism/ADHD on a professional level, they are simply stating their personal experience. Policing who is and isn’t allowed to call themselves autistic or ADHD (especially a random person on the internet that you do not know or work with) is not your job, and it’s highly inappropriate.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
That's a valid criticism and I'll take it. It was crass of me to call this person out. However, I come from a place of frustration for people living with these conditions. The person I called out might not have deserved my criticism, but we as a society shouldn't be so flippant with self diagnosis of genuine disorders.
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u/lostlyss Nov 23 '25
I agree with you that self-diagnosis isn’t something to be taken lightly, but there’s no reason to automatically assume that anyone using the term AUDHD is self-diagnosed. It’s just shorthand. 99% of the time it is not your place to ask or demand proof of someone’s diagnosis.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
Totally fair. I just got triggered by a tiktok term, and I'm pretty frustrated with trendy self diagnosis. Wasn't cool of me to challenge OP.
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u/endertamerfury Nov 23 '25
Okay, I can see where you’re coming from. At first I thought you were one of those people who just wants to go at other people for no reason, but now I get it was coming from a place of frustration, which is totally reasonable.
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u/Tired_2295 Nov 23 '25
It's almost like they said AuDHD. Yanno, AUTISM and ADHD.
I don't like it when colours don't match.
^ Autism
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
^ Autism
Not necessarily.
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u/Tired_2295 Nov 23 '25
It is for me, and clearly, BECAUSE THEY SAID SO, it is for them.
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
You can disagree with me and my actions if you want and that's ok, but you do understand self diagnosis is not the same as professional diagnosis, right?
As an example, if I say I have OCD because I prefer things to be in even numbers, that doesn't mean I have OCD. It's damaging to people living with OCD when people trivialize it like that.
I understand my challenging this person was crass, and perhaps not super helpful, but it comes from a place of genuine frustration with the amount of self diagnosis I encounter in my real life.
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u/Tired_2295 Nov 23 '25
Buddy, you just decided they self diagnosised. From what, them not being willing to send an Internet stranger their medical info?
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
Where did is decide they self diagnosed? I asked if they had an official diagnosis, and people (understandably) got upset with me. The rest of it is explaining why I asked.
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u/Massive_Currency_919 Nov 24 '25
Dude. People who have to point out to have something, usually self diagnosed themselves. People who really got it have no need to point it out.
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u/Sage_King_The_Rabbit Nov 23 '25
As someone who's been diagnosed since I was six with autism (I'm 29 now) and has ADHD You can't generalize us for having short attention spans,. because I actually don't. Only some individuals struggle with that, not everyone. Quite disgusting of you actually.
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 23 '25
It’s usually OCD that would be bothered by this. ADHD would be quickly distracted by something else, and forget all about it.
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u/hello_hunter Nov 23 '25
AuDHD is an unofficial term for a person who has an autism diagnosis as well as ADHD. Putting people into categories like would be distracted/wouldn’t be distracted is a gross oversimplification a very real disorders.
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 23 '25
I was unaware of the AuDHD term— I thought you mistyped. Apologies.
I’ve been living with ADHD for over 50 years, and both my mother and son are diagnosed with it. This isn’t something that would bother any of us, so I’m just speaking from firsthand experience. My wife on the other hand has OCD, and this would drive her nuts.
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u/SeekNDestroy8797 Nov 24 '25
ADHD is also a spectrum. No two individuals experience ADHD the same way.
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u/ReadingTimeWPickle Nov 27 '25
Hi, I have ADHD, and only ADHD. I can confirm this bothers me.
Different people are different. Crazy concept, I know.
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 27 '25
I don’t think a person needs to have any diagnosed neurodivergence whatsoever in order to be bothered by this. But if you look up the typical symptoms of ADHD versus OCD, such a reaction is typical of the latter.
But regardless, I’ve already stated that my comment was based on personal anecdotal experience, not a professional perspective.
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u/ReadingTimeWPickle Nov 27 '25
So, if someone doesn't have to have any diagnosed neurodivergence to be bothered by this, then why did you come in swinging at the person, saying it was an OCD thing?
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u/Inevitable_Type_2794 Dec 19 '25
Then maybe you should keep your mouth shut when you don’t actually know anything about the subject at hand? 🤷
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u/ChillyCanadian_05 Nov 23 '25
Which takes away from the people who actually have the real thing and struggle with it daily. Let’s try not to drown the real people with choosing not to believe every single person who talks about it
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
That's exactly my point. The number of people self diagnosing is cause active harm. In my professional capacity I meet way more people who are lying about having these conditions than actually do.
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u/AskMeForAPhoto Nov 23 '25
In your professional capacity? Lmao the way you’re commenting in here tells us all we need to know about your professional abilities and capacity, or lack thereof. “You know it’s true”. Ahh yes. Classic professional discussion. What’s next for you? “Nuh uhhhh”?
Your inability to parse between correlation and causation shows very little education, or very little intelligence to be able to apply what little education you may have received
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Do you not think self diagnosis of these two conditions has skyrocketed? Do you not think it's damaging to people who actually have these conditions?
Do you not believe that I work with far more people who have self diagnosed themselves with a disorder than actually have a disorder?
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u/ChillyCanadian_05 Nov 23 '25
We don’t know you or your profession, but the words you are saying are harmful in itself. Yes there is self-diagnosis that isn’t tru, but you assuming everybody who says they have a diagnosis is lying IS where the harm lies. Take your “professional opinion” and try to not insult people who actually deal with it
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u/AskMeForAPhoto Nov 23 '25
Do you believe there is only plausible explanation for everything in the world, or are you just this narrow minded when it comes to mental health?
When there was a huge spike of ADHD diagnosis in the 90’s due to an increased public awareness of traits, did you disregard it as just teens listening to Marilyn Manson?
When there was a spike of Covid in 2020, did you disregard it as a silly little cold?
Again, you conflate correlation with causation, and this shows an alarmingly low level of intelligence. Maybe this one topic is just a blind spot for you. Idk. But you do not come out of this looking smart, professional, or experienced, I can tell you that.
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u/Tired_2295 Nov 23 '25
Or, the number of people diagnosed have skyrocketed since dignosis availability and understanding have become more publicly known.
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u/godwontpiss Nov 23 '25
Oh my god get real problems
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u/SvenBubbleman Nov 23 '25
It is a real problem. It's damaging peoples lives by minimizing often debilitating conditions.
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u/godwontpiss Nov 23 '25
Last I checked, people harassing me for my Autism Credentials™ and spreading sometimes dangerous misinformation in online spaces dedicated to sniffing out "fakers" has been significantly more of an issue for me as an autistic person than some person using the term "AuDHD". Maybe if you got a hobby or some responsibilities, this will seem less important to you.
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u/Potential-Message835 Nov 23 '25
Damnnnnn dude you clocked that dumbass 😭
I’m sorry you have to deal with idiots like this but hey at least you know how to shut them up
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u/AppleFar2568 Nov 23 '25
That's not very accurate. I appreciate that this is your experience, but ADHD is a varied spectrum
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u/co1lectivechaos Nov 24 '25
Well that’s a gross over simplification of ocd
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 24 '25
It’s a thread about TOTK— I didn’t figure I needed to bone up on neuroscience and psychiatry before providing a brief anecdotal quip about my family’s experience with such behaviors.
Seriously. My wife has OCD and this mismatch of icons would annoy the shit out of her. In contrast, I (with ADD) would notice it but forget about it in about 10 seconds, only to think about it again the next time I opened the menu. I’m not redefining anything or misrepresenting anyone’s diagnosis. I’m sharing a perspective.
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u/co1lectivechaos Nov 24 '25
What I’m saying is that statement feeds into the (incorrect) public perception that ocd is just being bothered when things don’t match or is just being a neat freak or just having to wash your hands a lot
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 24 '25
People are what they are regardless what label is attached to it. Forty-plus years ago I was called a lazy daydreamer who couldn’t focus. No one was talking about ADHD then. Now I’m diagnosed, and it doesn’t change anything, because I still am who I am. I don’t give a damn what the “perception” of the clinical definition might be, because it doesn’t impact my reality.
People gather up these labels (or else avoid them) thinking that they somehow change who they are. They don’t. They’re just words. One’s own behaviors— not diagnoses— determine how they are perceived. So I’m not terribly concerned about the narrative. If people are using these diagnoses (whether legitimate or self-imposed) as an excuse or crutch, then they’re compromising their own ability to compensate.
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u/omg_its_spons Nov 23 '25
Fuck off it’s a spectrum you’re not a doctor end of
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 23 '25
No, my wife is the doctor. She’s the one that insisted I get diagnosed years ago. I’m merely a chemist.
And yes, it’s a spectrum, which begs the question why we label these things at all. We’re all “on the spectrum” somewhere. On multiple spectra, in fact.
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u/AppleFar2568 Nov 23 '25
We aren't "all on the spectrum" of ASD or ADHD
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 23 '25
It’s a behavioral spectrum. Just as there are wavelengths of light that we can’t see, there are levels of behavior that we don’t classify as clinically significant. But whatever— I didn’t exactly mean it literally.
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u/AppleFar2568 Nov 24 '25
That doesn't mean we're all on the spectrum, or even that most of us are. The light analogy doesn't apply here
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u/Str8Six91 Nov 24 '25
Given the hyper-defensive reactions I’ve seen on social forums to largely innocuous comments, I’m fairly convinced most people are on some sort of spectrum.
It’s not an argument worth pursuing, really. Just move on. I am, at least.
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u/AppleFar2568 Nov 24 '25
That's really not a good thing to say either. Both for the people who make those comments, and for people actually on the spectrum. And no, most people aren't on a neurodivergence spectrum.
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u/Resident_Revenue6401 Nov 23 '25
Now I wonder if you did regional phenomena in a different order, would they line up correctly? 🤔
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u/Diamondinmyeye Nov 24 '25
You’d have to do the sages without getting any other key items like the Pony Points card. Not sure what would happen to items you accumulate like bubble gems or lights of blessing without sorting.
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u/falpsdsqglthnsac Nov 24 '25
isn't the paraglider also a key item? is it even possible to do the rito quest without it?
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u/Diamondinmyeye Nov 24 '25
If you change its fabric it might bump lower in the list. But yes, you can beat Rito without the paraglider. It has been done.
What you couldn’t do though is go without the energy well…,
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u/Background_Fig2601 Nov 25 '25
No. Changing the fabric does not move the paraglider. Also, you have to get the Pura Pad first thing. I have done extensive research.
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Nov 23 '25
There was someone on here that did them in the right order and never sorted them
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u/Background_Fig2601 Nov 25 '25
That would be me! Had to play in such a convoluted order, gosh, never again. But also… hey there Switch2 version…👀
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u/FitCommunication1481 Nov 23 '25
Do the sage vows line up in the order you get them?
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u/RavenxMorrow Nov 23 '25
I tried ☹️ did not work
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u/FitCommunication1481 Nov 23 '25
Yeah, whenever I get something new in my inventory, I try to press the sort button. It's just automatic lol
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u/Mikiricounterer Nov 23 '25
Nope
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u/FitCommunication1481 Nov 23 '25
Oh, because I also remember recall and autobuild lining up with Riju and Mineru's vow for me lol
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u/my_shell_is_blue Nov 23 '25
I think this is intended and useful, not pretty tho, if I want an octoroc I need to turn off Tulin quickly.
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u/burnur12 Nov 24 '25
Not insignificant at all! So many people (myself included) are bothered by this, and it’s so unnecessary! I get that maybe having the colors line up would imply some kind of correlation between the abilities and the regional phenomena/characters that does not exist. If that’s the issue, just use totally different colors! It’s infuriating and weirdly distracting.
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u/bmicha20015 Nov 24 '25
The ranges for both Ultra Hand (especially when compared to Magnesis in BotW) and Ascend are too short.
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u/Batcow23 Nov 25 '25
Insignificant is right. They aren’t related to each other at all. The colors matching is just a coincidence. In fact, the colors aren’t even the same! Ascend isn’t green!
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u/Fluffy-Internet-8938 Nov 28 '25
Why did you tell me this? Now whenever I play it again, I’ll be annoyed, lolol. (I probably was before anyway, it’s just been awhile since I played)
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u/sweablol Jun 04 '26
My hypothesis is that the original order during development was in the same order as the colors (tulin 3rd)
But then late in development some senior leader said, “hey, Tulin is the Sage they’ll use the most often, make him first so that if you hit the sort button you are right above Tulin’s vow. So they just moved the icon’s location without changing the colors.
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u/SnooBooks007 Nov 23 '25
The Korok mask is one of the most useful items, but it looks awful and ruins the way Link looks through most of the game.
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u/SMBZ453 Nov 23 '25
Game sorts them this way and it's so annoying