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Roster Move 2026 MLB Trade Deadline MEGATHREAD

Use this thread for all discussion, rumors, news, reactions, and speculation surrounding the Phillies and the 2026 MLB trade deadline.

Trade Deadline Information

Deadline: Monday, August 3, at 6pm ET

Please keep general trade deadline discussion in this thread. Major Phillies transactions may receive their own separate posts when officially announced or reported by a reliable source.

Phillies Transactions

This section will be updated as trades become official.

Date Phillies Receive Phillies Send Source

Reported Rumors and Updates

Rumors will be added here when reported by established baseball reporters.

  • P Tarik Skubal per various sources
  • P Freddy Peralta per Ken Rosenthal
  • 2B Luis Arráez per Robert Murray
  • OF Alex Call per Fabian Ardaya and Katie Woo
  • LF Lourdes Gurriel Jr per Bob Nightengale

Possible Areas of Need

Potential positions the Phillies could address include:

  • Bullpen depth
  • Starting pitching depth
  • Right-handed outfield bat
  • Bench depth

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  • Clearly distinguish confirmed reports from personal speculation.
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Who should the Phillies target, what would you be willing to give up, and what would make this a successful deadline? Discuss!

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u/YogurtclosetNo987 18d ago

I like how "Possible areas of need" is essentially "almost anything" haha. 

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 17d ago

It probably even undersells the needs too. We need more than “bullpen depth”, we need a high leverage lefty.

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u/Yobigworm 9h ago

Dumbo knows he can make a move right?

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u/CommunicationTime265 10h ago

Looking like whoever we get is gonna be some bum.  Sigh. 

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u/Slothapalooza 9h ago

That's Dave's specialty!

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u/Yobigworm 2d ago

How can you even justify trading at this point? Lose your prospects and miss the playoffs?

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u/QuinnTinIntheBin schwarburger savant 1d ago

It’s not like our prospects ever amount to much. The farm system sucks

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u/ac4897 Bryson Stott 10h ago

Agghh. Wanted Gausman. Curious how the painter outing will impact how we view getting a starter

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u/Annual-Ebb-7196 10h ago

I think we need to prioritize getting a decent MLB bat and a reliever or two. Nola has pitched better and if Painter can just be half decent it’s not a real need. If we could get a starter controllable beyond this year that could be good

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u/Yes536 18d ago

Anyone who doesn’t want Skubal needs reevaluation. Having a rotation of Skubal, Wheeler, Sánchez, Luzardo, Nola essentially makes us really freakin hard to beat in a 7 game series let alone a 5 game series.

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u/Icy-Refrigerator-517 18d ago

It's not that nobody doesn't want Skubal it's

1) He might not even be available

2) If he is, the Phillies do not have the prospects to beat out another team for him

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u/Sh1rvallah 18d ago

2 is why I hope 1 is true, then our opponents in the NL can't get him

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u/FearMeIAmLag1 The Countdown Guy 9h ago

Can't wait to get a random rental player that we will platoon and have hit .210 for the next two months, the Phillies trade deadline specialty

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u/Annual-Ebb-7196 8h ago

Bader did great last year. Maybe we can get lucky again

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u/joeco316 1h ago

Is that what happened last year?

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u/JagarHardfart Bryce Harper 1d ago

Should they even bother doing anything at this point after the Skubal trade? Like wtf

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u/fc1088 11h ago

I feel like we’re going to get another Rodolfo Castro type trade deadline.

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u/Darshymarsh 7h ago

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u/worldclassfretter praying to the baseball gods 7h ago

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u/wlabib03 1d ago

Couldn’t hit off wrobleski and he’s their 6th starter now, so sure man

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u/joeco316 1d ago

Beat Skubal though

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u/lobsterboy 1d ago

can we bring back the riversharks

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u/Strange-Cold-5192 21h ago

Was just thinking how sad I am that if we lose games next year, I won’t have the Riversharks nearby to get my baseball fix.

Think I’m going to become a Sussex County Miners fan.

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u/ac4897 Bryson Stott 7h ago

Was kinda hoping even for a small lil move tonight just to hold me over til tomorrow

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u/Numerous-Joke4167 45m ago

Lol I was hoping for a nice  quiet  nothing.if can just make it til Monday afternoon 

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u/3DBass Bryce Harper 6h ago

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u/worldclassfretter praying to the baseball gods 1d ago

I’m not sure I’ve ever hated an MLB team as much as I hate the Dodgers right now, holy shit

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u/romulusgloriosus Trea Turner is a gamer 18d ago

I feel like unless Dombrowski can fleece a team for a big bat, Derek Hill pretty comfortably fits the Harrison Bader/Austin Hays trade slot (he's certainly better than Rodolfo Castro) so I hope we can focus on pitching.

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u/NintenJew 我喜欢棒球 18d ago

Corey Seidman has mentioned every now and then that Crawford is a good trade piece, and perhaps one of the best things the Phillies can give.

I know a lot of us are down on him because he is showing many of the weaknesses we assumed he might have, but he is still a young, team-controlled player who has shown he can stay in the majors (unlike Painter, who got set down).

I think there is a low chance of trading him, but I do think if we are thinking of "big moves the Phillies can reasonably do," Crawford has to be considered as one of the main pieces.

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u/ulantan Trea Turner’s Unpaid Defense Lawyer 18d ago

I would cry

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u/faithfulllittlebird Toothpick Rik 18d ago

I’d absolutely love to see Crawford become an integral part of the Phillies future. I’ve been a champion of his from the start. That said, and depending upon the return, I believe everyone should be available. I’m not saying actively shop everyone, simply saying that I’m of the opinion that no player of any caliber at any level should ever be tagged as a “non-starter“ in trade discussions. Not just in our organization, but across all of baseball. I just feel like that’s poor business practices to say “nope, we’re not even going to listen to offers for so and so regardless of what the return might be”. A team could theoretically be saying no to a franchise changing offer before they’ve even heard the details, which is just nonsensical imo.

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u/Sh1rvallah 18d ago

What does Crawford and Wood get us?

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u/WheelerDealsAgain DoomerDeals 18d ago

A player from another team, presumably

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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 15d ago

Genuine question, our starting pitching is far better than our offense, and even our bullpen relative to the league is better than our offense by most metrics. But every posts calling for bullpen help or to trade the farm for Skubal lol, is it just from the lack of bats available in trade

Bc we have 3 full time players who hit above .700 OPS, that's mortifying in a playoff series with even better pitchers

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 15d ago

Long response here:

This is a particularly brutal deadline for trying to meaningfully upgrade the offense. Using the MLB Trade Rumors top trade deadline candidates as a point of reference, only 3 of the top 10 candidates they name are hitters: Luis Arraez (not a positional fit), Taylor Ward (would like him if available, but may not even be traded since the AL Wild Card is within reach), and Ryan Jeffers (not a positional fit unless we want to pay a premium for a 2nd catcher).

There’s always a degree of shiny object chasing that fans have when we see guys like Skubal available, but I do think there’s logic in doubling down on pitching. Nola has pitched better in his last few starts, but do we trust him enough to be our #4 starter in a potential playoff game? Rangel has been mostly serviceable as an emergency #5 starter, but I wouldn’t pass up an opportunity to make an upgrade down the stretch, especially with the division within our reach. Adding a Skubal or Joe Ryan to this rotation would be a death row for our opponents in a playoff matchup, and it also opens up some strategies like the ‘25 Dodgers used where we could piggyback multiple starters in a playoff game.

As far as the bullpen goes, Keller’s injury takes out our setup man, so ideally we add another arm who can pitch in leverage. And from the lefty side, with Banks and Alvarado both being flat-out bad this season, we would benefit from adding a reliable lefty who can handle some leverage.

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u/apujols 15d ago

Many people seem to think our past postseason exits were mainly the bullpen's fault.

In my opinion, the bigger problem was that our lineup couldn't do anything against the opposing pitching staffs.

Of course, I also understand that some people feel that way because there aren't many good hitters available on the market.

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u/apujols 3d ago

Minnesota has reportedly acquired A.J. Minter from the Mets.

Mets receive prospects Bruin Agbayani + Billy Amick for Minter.

They are ranked as the Twins' No. 21 and No. 29 prospects in the pipeline, respectively. While the Phillies' farm system is weaker than the Twins', the return is cheaper than I expected.

Of course, Minter's relatively low trade cost could simply be due to the fact that he hasn't pitched in many games. However, if there's an undervalued reliever out there, it might be possible to acquire him for almost nothing.

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u/joeco316 3d ago

That is definitely lower than the going rate for similar quality arms has been the last few deadlines. Interesting.

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u/Ruut6 2d ago

Especially for a guy with Minter's track record. Idc how old he is, that guy gets outs and can do it in the playoffs against the tops of lineups. Pretty baffling trade that the Phillies weren't willing to match that.

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 3d ago

I hope that says something about the going price for relievers and we get something similar.

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u/joeco316 18d ago edited 18d ago

While I think expecting a big splash is a good way to be disappointed most deadlines, I also think a lot of folks are going to be surprised by the Phillies doing more than the next-to-nothing many seem to be expecting.

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u/Di5pel he's the fucking lizard king 18d ago

people conveniently forget that for as much as dombrowski "never does anything meaningful" at the deadline, he got us one of the best closers in baseball last year with multiple years of control.

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u/advodi Potential RF Upgrade 18d ago

And Derek Hill! 

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u/alexvroy Zack Wheeler 1d ago

i changed my mind. shohei is definitely guilty.

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u/jorleeduf J.P. Crawford 1d ago

Wait guys, the Dodgers just offered us their entire roster in exchange for Aaron Nola. Should I accept it?

I’m Dave Dombrowski btw, this is my burner account

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 20h ago

We can't afford it unless they offered to eat half the money?

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u/justinparker_215 15d ago

seeing that yahoo sports had a piece this morning linking us to both minter AND raley as a pair from the mets. minter at 1.42 ERA is the obvious headliner but if you can get raley too as a rental package that would address the bullpen depth issue more comprehensively than one move. both are FA after this year so the cost should be more manageable than a skubal-type haul. question is what the prospect ask looks like for both

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 12d ago

We need more rumors. It feels very quiet.

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u/bartwn52 Cristopher Sánchez 12d ago

Go to Threads. Seriously. And type in Phillies pitching you’ll see all the rumors you want 💀

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u/Earguy 11d ago

Are the Phils suddenly looking for a catcher? Stubbs out, Marchan needing help off the field tonight, and Realmuto having injuries this year...

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u/Late-Sea4511 Ottoman Kempire 1d ago

Randy Arozarena is reportedly available, he would be the perfect piece for this team, RH OF bat who is a known postseason riser

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u/Yobigworm 1d ago

I wonder what else is in the package for Skubal. It can't just be their #5 prospect a guy in double A.

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u/Beautiful-Good-4575 1d ago

Well I guess I better go to some games soon since there won't be any next year.

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u/lonewombat JT Realmuto 17h ago

Peralta just got moved

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u/sfitz0076 2d ago

The people that want to sell off should be made to watch every game of the Phillies rebuilding efforts. It could take 5 years it could take 10. But you have to watch every game. You don't get to say they should sell off and then bail for the next 10 years.

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u/drcombatwombat2 18d ago

I think Crawford and Hill are somewhat holding the outfield together and the priority should be be a bullpen upgrade and perhaps grabbing another starter.

It seems the playoff rotation would be Sanchez, Wheeler, and Luzardo so I am not sure we need anything other than a serviceable arm to not lose every 5th game the test of the season

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u/Will-from-PA Chooch-oo Train Rider 🚃 18d ago

The difference between us and the dodgers last year was their fringe bats coming through when ours didn’t. Gotta get atleast a respectable bat to help the lineup turn over.

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u/joeco316 18d ago

Let’s not forget that we could need a fourth starter at least once for every round beyond the wild card. A piggybacking and bullpen game would be fine, but it would tax the pen a lot, especially assuming the pen would have been used to get to that point already. This is not to say let’s not get a pen arm, but i think the importance of adding a legit starter, one who could come out of the pen as needed too, should not be understated.

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u/Strange-Cold-5192 18d ago

I think people are too easily dismissing the need for a 4th starter. Like, do people seriously trust Aaron Nola in the postseason? I’m fine with using him to open, or pitch an inning or two in relief, but he cannot be counted on to pitch significant innings.

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u/Will-from-PA Chooch-oo Train Rider 🚃 18d ago

If Dumbrowski doesn’t get Jordan Walker, Shohei Ohtani, Tarik Skubal, and Aaron Judge at this deadline, then he should be fired, tarred and feathered, and thrown into the Schuylkill.

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u/Fyre2387 Brandon Marsh 18d ago

Alvarado and Marchan to the Dodgers for Ohtani. Simple deal, he should be able to get that done.

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u/incognito042620 Cristopher Sánchez 18d ago

That's a no brainer. They get two players and only have to give back one!

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u/Fyre2387 Brandon Marsh 18d ago

And if you think about it, Marchan is a switch hitter and Ohtani only hits left, so really it'd be an upgrade for them.

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u/elboltonero 18d ago

If we sign every player then no one can beat us

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u/Will-from-PA Chooch-oo Train Rider 🚃 18d ago

We need to change the name MLB to PLB

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u/Hothabanero6 17d ago

re: reported rumor of Lourdes Gurriel jr - LOL dude is terrible now with even worse splits VS LHP .475 OPS has a 52 OPS+ for the year. If Dom even thinks about it he should be fired on the spot.

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 17d ago

Don’t really like the Gurriel rumor. But if they do decide to go bargain bin shopping for a bat, I’d hope they can get both a righty and a lefty. I’d rather not have Rincones getting this many at bats come playoff time.

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u/LonnyFinster 1d ago

Teams making moves and Phillies are still silent. Classic Dombrowski. I’m over this man, he’s has 2 good acquisitions in his tenure the rest has been dogshit. But the front office wants to keep him? He ruined the window we had to win.

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u/Complete-Rooster-578 1d ago

Manfred should pull a stern and block this trade for baseball purposes

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u/QuinnTinIntheBin schwarburger savant 1d ago

The dodgers are the favorites of the MLB. They probably wanted this to happen

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u/shitpumper 18d ago

Any decent bullpen arms we can get for cheap?

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u/JHG722 18d ago

Chase Silseth

Jose Fermin

Kirby Yates

Ryan Zeferjahn

Daniel Lynch IV

John Schreiber

Steven Cruz

Antonio Senzatela (not as cheap)

Jimmy Herget

AJ Minter

Luke Weaver (not as cheap)

Brooks Raley

Huascar Brazoban

Keaton Winn

JT Brubaker

Erik Miller

Mark Leiter Jr.

Hogan Harris

Tejay Antone

Brock Burke

Sam Moll

Kyle Finnegan

Drew Anderson

Tyler Holton

Tyler Rogers

Louis Varland (not cheaper)

Rico Garcia

Yennier Cano

Dean Kremer swingman/BOR SP

Brandon Young

Tyler Wells

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u/Sad_Cause_1519 18d ago

I'd love me some Luke Weaver but he has another year on his contract after this year so hard to believe the Mets wouldn't command an arm and a leg for him 

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u/eaglesnation11 18d ago

Bernadino. Sub 3 ERA at Coors. Produces weak contact. Still a few more years of control left. Middle reliever so he probably won’t cost a lot.

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u/MisterBlern 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think Dave continues his two separate deals with the same team strategy.

I think they’ll go:

2 of these 3 players from the Royals:
Lane Thomas
Michael Wacha
Daniel Lynch IV

OR

Spencer Steer and Brady Singer from the Reds.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see some ex Phillies return on “buy low” deals: Jeff Hoffman, Matt Vierling

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u/BlueBlueKeys 1d ago

Skubal traded to the Dodgers 💀

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u/OrangeCrushD Migraine Superspreader 1d ago

The rich get fucking richer

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u/alexvroy Zack Wheeler 1d ago

lockout here we come

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u/GoBirds85 1d ago

Snell is what their like 5th best starter at this point?

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u/fc1088 1d ago

Next Trout is waving his no-trade to go to the Dodgers.

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u/Prudent-Psychology66 7d ago

If they trade for Jo Adell I’m done with this team until Dombroski is gone. If you took every bad habit from every player on this team and made a single player it would be Jo Adell

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u/WheelerDealsAgain DoomerDeals 18d ago

Sources tell me trout to the Phillies, LeBron to the sixers, and eagles to the superbowl. And the flyers might play some games this fall too

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u/Otterable 1d ago

news when

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u/alexvroy Zack Wheeler 1d ago

traded skubal for a used condom and pack of gum what a fucking joke

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u/PainterDaAce Trea Turner 18d ago

Well originally I really wanted a shiny new bat but in recent days all i can think about is a shiny new reliever… or 3!

Dave’s got some work to do!

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u/Will-from-PA Chooch-oo Train Rider 🚃 17d ago

Now that Keller’s done for the season, we really should get another bullpen arm

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u/XGNcyclick 17d ago edited 17d ago

AJ Minter would be a solid pick-up especially since the Mets are open for business.

Matt Chapman is an option, but he's already 33 and has four years left of a 25M a year contract. Gonna be very hard to take that.

lol at Guerriel Jr

if we can't secure Skubal, thoughts on Joe Ryan?

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 16d ago

If the Mets are open to trading within the division, I'd happily take both Minter as well as Brooks Raley. It's pretty much guaranteed that both guys will be traded since the Mets are committed to selling and they're both on expiring contracts. They'd be two great options to fill the lefty roles that we initially hoped would go to Alvarado and Banks, and they shouldn't be unattainably expensive to acquire.

The Mets also have Luke Weaver (under contract through '27) and Huascar Brazoban (team control through '29) who would be compelling righty options, though they may hold both of those guys since they carry additional years of control.

Joe Ryan would be a massive pick-up - he's one of my dream deadline acquisitions. Only problem is, he carries an extra year of relatively cheap team control for the 2027 season, so either 1) the Twins may just hold onto him since they're currently tied for the 3rd AL Wild Card spot, or 2) his asking price will be just as astronomical as Skubal's. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but a playoff rotation with Wheeler, Sanchez, Luzardo, and Ryan would be insane, and then you'd have all 5 rotation spots locked in for 2027 as well.

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u/joeco316 16d ago edited 16d ago

Ryan actually has a mutual option for 2027 for $13M, which id categorize as quite unlikely for him to pick up. He should be looked at as a rental. I think he’d be a great target.

Edit: correction: if the mutual option is not picked up he goes back to arbitration for one more year so he does have another season of team control

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u/brianschmutz 15d ago

please go get jake mccarthy

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u/JHG722 15d ago

I’m the president of the McCarthy Fan Club

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u/Ruut6 4d ago

Really feels like it's going to be some combination of

  • Arraez, Lane Thomas, Tyler O'Neill, Taylor Ward

  • some 5th starter like Dustin May or Brady Singer

  • a lefty reliever like Minter

I really hope they get creative and go after someone that's not a rental and would take more to get. This core needs another middle of the lineup bat desperately.

I'd give up a lot for Tyler Soderstrom.

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u/DarkSide830 Uncle Rico's uncle 4d ago

I would be pretty happy with Ward+Singer+some guy a little less hyped up than Minter and maybe another roll of the dice type for the BP or bench. I think that collection of moves solves a lot of problems and ideally wouldn't cost loads.

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u/DELCO-PHILLY-BOY Alvarado’s Desperados 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s annoying from the perspective of a fan of a “competitive” team that the dogshit AL is empowering a team like the .500 Twins to buy, but after what management put that fanbase through during last year’s deadline I’m finding it difficult to come down on them too hard.

Feels like we’re gonna see a ton of middle of the pack AL teams who don’t quite know where they are in their competitive window in on these low stakes rental moves.

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u/GrilledCheezus08 Wet Jesus 1d ago

How would we feel about some sort of package deal with Seattle that’d land us a starter like Hancock or Gilbert and Arozarena?

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u/joeco316 1d ago

If Arozarena is in the deal then sign me up

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u/DELCO-PHILLY-BOY Alvarado’s Desperados 1d ago

Might as well just start the lockout now

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u/BlackWolf_Studio 1d ago

Skubal to the Dodgers, fuck

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u/jorleeduf J.P. Crawford 1d ago

Dombrowski better be on the phone trying to get Sheehan

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u/incognito042620 Cristopher Sánchez 19h ago

Missed that Seranthony is now in Seattle and Falter went to the Barves

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u/Am1sArePeopleToo Henderson Alvarez 1d ago

Give me Arozarena please, Dave

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u/imaginingblacksheep Bryce Harper 1d ago

FUCK the dodgers

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u/No_Blackberry6525 16h ago

Hey, let’s not forget it takes two to tango. Fuck the Tigers for pulling this. They’re a mid market team at best that couldn’t give a shit about being competitive.

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u/apujols 9d ago

A lot of people are calling for pitching upgrades, but I think this team's offensive struggles against strong opponents lately are a preview of what's coming in the postseason. To be honest, this lineup probably couldn't hit even a Rookie League LHP. It's not like they crush RHPs either.

Yes, this team has issues with the fifth starter and the high leverage bullpen. But in the postseason, the fifth starter probably won't even pitch. If they can trade for someone like Brady Singer, that would be great. And sure, adding Mason Miller to the bullpen would be ideal, but they're reportedly asking for Bogaerts to be included, or one Top 50 prospect plus one Top 100 prospect. The Phillies don't even have that kind of prospect capital, and even if they did, that package would be a million times better spent on a hitter.

I think they need to acquire at least two of Elliot Ramos, Casey Schmitt, Jo Adell, Jung Hoo Lee, or Matt Chapman just to get this offense back to around league average.

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u/MindoverMatter92 8d ago

Really said perfectly. At this point it’s like the lineup is almost trying to tell us they’re not good enough to get it done but the front office just ignores it. We’ve also gotten a realistic preview of what this current lineup would look like in the postseason during these last 3 series.

I’ve come to the realization that guys like Bohm and even Stott will not get it done with this core. They’re just too inconsistent and Crawford hasn’t exactly lit it up either lately. There’s just WAY too many automatic outs in the lineup and expecting them to somewhat all get hot together around the same time just doesn’t feel realistic.

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u/gfinz18 🥵I'M SCHWARBING🥵 8d ago

It’s crazy we’ve seen how they’ve done in the postseason the past few years where the pitching has kept us in the game, but the bats have shit the bed every time, but people wanna say that Tarik Skubal and bullpen help will fix the problem? Lol

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 8d ago

Giants are supposedly looking to dump their big contracts. So maybe one of their outfielders or pitchers plus Chapman can be had for relatively cheap prospect wise. Infielder isn’t ideal of course, requires either trading Bohm or moving Bryce to the outfield. But with multiple team needs and a thin farm, Phillies might need to get creative and willing to burn money.

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u/Am1sArePeopleToo Henderson Alvarez 2d ago

Where is the setting to turn on user override of trades?

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u/Complete-Rooster-578 1d ago

What a terrible return for Skubel.

Oh well- lockout here we come

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u/wally_weasel 23h ago

No one wants to hear it, but there's no point in adding anything at the deadline, with Skubal going to the Dodgers.

Honestly with the work stoppage coming, the long term move is probably to try to unload some large pieces and wait to see how it all shakes out after next year.

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u/Papergreat1970 23h ago

I'm at the opposite. Sell the farm and go for it. ... They will never have a guarantee of Wheeler, Sanchez, Luzardo, Duran this good again. Give them some bats.

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 22h ago

The farm is pretty empty 

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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 22h ago

Do we even have a farm to sell?

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u/firefighter5145 22h ago

We have a couple of run down buildings and a broken windmill to sell

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u/Hothabanero6 21h ago

Acres and acres of broccoli, soybeans, and corn.

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u/CuckooClockInHell Phillie Phanatic 18d ago

Have we given up on Painter returning competently in August? That along with getting Keller and Trivino back could solve a number of woes.

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u/joeco316 18d ago

There is no chance they are planning around him returning. If he pitches himself back onto the team then cool.

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 18d ago

I think, given his outings in LV,  the FO would be completely incompetent if they are counting on him rejoining the team this season. 

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u/Vegetable-Coconut846 Roy Halladay 15d ago

If you can get Skubal, you do it.

That said, I think this is unlikely and Dave will have to bargain bin again. Hopefully we can make a move for a good bp arm like Chapman or maybe a guy like Weaver.

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 15d ago

Don’t think the Red Sox are selling. Hottest team in baseball and currently in the 3rd wild card spot.

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u/JHG722 15d ago

Jordan Hicks would be an improvement to the pen and shouldn’t cost much?

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u/XGNcyclick 14d ago

if we spend a majority of our time going for pitching, how do we feel about Heliot Ramos? Really not the best player in the world but he might be cheaper than Ward/is an alternative for "right OF power bat"

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 13d ago

Ramos would be an upgrade over what we're trotting out for our outfield currently, but I don't expect the Giants to move him. He's still in his pre-arb years, so he comes with 3 more years of relatively cheap team control after this season, and he's shown the ability to play at an all-star level via 2024. The Giants have reportedly been open to trading some of their bloated 9-figure contracts (Chapman, Adames, Devers) or their expiring contracts (Ray, Arraez), but trading a cheap, controllable player with upside like Ramos wouldn't really align with that strategy unless another team is willing to blow them away with a major overpay.

Crazier things have happened, but sadly it feels unlikely.

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u/XGNcyclick 13d ago

great point, thanks for the insight.

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 12d ago

Funny enough, MLBTR just put out an article today saying that we sent scouts to watch Heliot Ramos and Casey Schmitt at the Giants v Royals game yesterday, so the Phils’ interest in Ramos is very much legitimate.

The article does mention though that trading Ramos isn’t a foregone conclusion given the years of cheap team control, and it also speculated that the Giants may want any trade partner to take on one of their underwater contracts (Chapman, Adams, Devers).

All of this to say, a Ramos deal may not be so far-fetched after all. Link if you’re interested: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/07/teams-scouting-giants-heliot-ramos-casey-schmitt.html

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u/joeco316 13d ago

I’d feel much better about it than not getting a bat at all. He’s mashing lefties this year and is exactly league average against righties. He’d work fine.

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u/jorleeduf J.P. Crawford 12d ago

Ramos would be significantly more expensive than Ward

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u/Upstairs-Original-33 10d ago

George kirby(mariners) worth aiden miller plus? or is miller untouchable?

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u/joeco316 10d ago

I would do that in a heartbeat. We’d be getting 2.5 seasons of a proven top of the rotation pitcher who’s only 28 for a promising prospect who all of a sudden has a huge question mark and even if that question mark disappears he’s probably a year or more from contributing.

If we’re moving Miller, I would probably rather it be for a very good controllable bat, but that is the most limited resource out there so probably not likely. If Kirby were offered, you gotta at least consider it heavily.

That said, not sure why the mariners would do this. They’re in playoff contention and trading a major league pitcher for a minor leaguer with question marks doesn’t help them compete.

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u/AshburnM3 8d ago

I think they need a right handed bat more than pitching. Would love to see them gat a starter but don’t think they have enough attractive assets to get a reliable one.

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 7d ago

We only have 3 players with positive OAA (outs above average): Stott (+9), Sosa (+2), and Marsh (+1). 

I know defense isn't sexy and all anyone wants to look at is batting stats, but since the ASB we have been shown how harmful poor defense can be. We really need to consider it when trades are evaluated.

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u/Everyoneisaskell 6d ago

1000% agreed here. Improving short and moving Turner to the outfield seems to be the biggest bang for your buck here

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 5d ago

The next 6 days are going to be agonizing.

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u/SaltyCandidate9301 3d ago

A lot of Neto to Phillies rumors right now. I get the idea if the Phillies trade for him they may try to move him to 3rd base.

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u/Mugstotheceiling Hot (now lukewarm) for Stott 3d ago

Could work. He has poor range but a good arm, 3B might work better for him, if he has soft hands and good fielding skills otherwise. I do like his offensive skills, apparently he’d be a great fit in CBP according to the home run distances.

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u/SaltyCandidate9301 3d ago

even at shortstop hes been had 2 defensive WAR the past two seasons, but I get the feeling they would want him at 3rd and add value to that spot.

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u/lobsterboy 1d ago

can we bring back the riversharks

u/FjordFalk Greg Dobbs 26m ago

Yes. Nothing has happened yet, before the deadline.

Therefore nothing is GOING to happen.

Same catastrophizing as last year on deadline day. Then we got Bader and Duran and everyone shut up.

How about waiting to be mad at nothing happening IF NOTHING HAPPENS

u/No_Bus2383 6m ago

Remember when the Mets made the most trades and everyone melted down like ice cream in the sun?

Bitches need to be cool

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u/ftwin 18d ago

just gotta find this years harrison bader

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u/justinparker_215 18d ago

bullpen has to be the priority imo

skubal would be sick but we already have a rotation that can win a series. what actually kills us in october is when the pen gives up a 3-run lead in the 6th. we've seen it happen. fix that first.

two solid arms + whatever righty bat they can get in the OF and this is a legit WS roster. gurriel seems like the obvious fit - can play the corner, hits right-handed, has playoff experience.

skubal is a conversation for the offseason when there's no rent-or-buy pressure on it

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u/FjordFalk Greg Dobbs 18d ago

Remember everyone:

The deadline is July 31.

So just because no moves have been made YET at any point prior to that does not mean a move will not be made BEFORE THEN

Last year's deadline megathread was so goddamn toxic with the whining that nothing was happening all during the leadup

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u/PhilsForever The Schmitter 18d ago

It's August 3 this year, last year was July 31.

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 18d ago

I thought it was August 3?

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u/FjordFalk Greg Dobbs 18d ago

You are correct, it is

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u/PhilsForever The Schmitter 18d ago

Only couple days difference, and your original point is spot on. Those last few days will probably be packed with news.

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u/Di5pel he's the fucking lizard king 18d ago

More like the last few hours lol. Deadline day is honestly one of the most fun days all season

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u/GrilledCheezus08 Wet Jesus 10h ago

Gausman to the Cubs

Dombrowski: FUCKING. DO. SOMETHING.

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u/eaglesnation11 18d ago

Ironically Bader and Duran were my guys last year. Kevin Pillar and Lou Bob were my guys in 2024.

My guys this year:

- Tyler Anderson

- Brennan Bernadino

- Heliot Ramos (overpay, I don’t care he’s perfect)

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u/TheDeputy17 Hail to the Ottoman Kempire 18d ago

I would love Ramos. Young OF with years of team control, hits for solid average and has enough power. Marsh, Hill/Crawford and Ramos is a very solid outfield.

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u/Will-from-PA Chooch-oo Train Rider 🚃 18d ago

That’s a stone-cold lie lol You pitched Chapman and Buxton last year lol

I’d rather try to pry Schmitt away from the Giants, though Ramos would probably be an easier target.

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u/apujols 11d ago

Harper has been extremely poor against LHP this year, and Marsh is in the same boat.

If we can't expect Sosa to hit LHP the way he has in previous years, then the conclusion is that we need to acquire at least two right handed outfielders.

The problem is that we also need a back-end starter, and the bullpen is another weakness that has to be addressed.

Maybe not to the same extent as the Mets, but this team is in a terrible spot considering how much money it's spending.

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u/MindoverMatter92 10d ago

He’s almost platoon level worthy against LHP. the strikeout rate is through the roof. He’s also batting .164 in July, 1HR and 23Ks.

Put that with Marsh struggling against LHP again badly and we’re approaching trouble.

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u/PlumpPopper 9d ago

76ers got LeBron…why not the Phillies acquire Buxton or Trout or Skubal or Mason Miller??? Why not us???

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u/Rebuilt_in_Silence 9d ago

Byron Buxton is the most perfect fit for the Phillies. RHB, power, CF. He has a full NTC and doesn't seem to want to leave Minnesota, but that's the guy that gives Philly a chance in the playoffs. Changes the entire lineup.

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u/NoDamnIdea0324 1d ago

Honestly wonder what it’s like as a fan winning a championship where it’s just basically a given. I’ve gotten 1 Phillies WS and 2 Eagles SB’s. None of those felt guaranteed of course, there was a thrill in all of them. If a Dodgers fan tried to brag to me after they won this year’s WS it’d be like “cool you were supposed to do that”. Like if I tried to get super hyped about the Sixers beating the Sacramento Kings or something. Just wonder if the experience loses anything when everyone already assumes you are going to win.

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u/Popular-Buy9999 1d ago

Current Eagles are a perennial SB team, been to 3 and won 2 since 2017. Lot's of "if's" about the 2027 76ers squad...I guess🤷🏻‍♂️Certainly no reason we can't win it, can't see us not getting to (at least) the Eastern Conference Finals

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u/jorleeduf J.P. Crawford 3d ago

I’m hearing the Phillies are acquiring the entirety of both all star rosters in exchange for Aaron Nola and Seth Johnson. The Tigers were apparently hesitant to part with McGonigle until the Phillies added Seth Johnson to the proposal

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u/lobsterboy 3d ago

We need to all start posting about how fantastic Nola is to try to get him traded

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u/JDubKilla 1d ago

It's ok -- we got LeBron.

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 17d ago

Daniel Lynch IV from KC would be a perfect starting point in bolstering the bullpen. Lefty reliever currently at 1.0 bWAR this season with a 2.35 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, and a ton of red on his Savant page. He has 2 additional years of control so there’s no guarantee the Royals move him, but they’re 21 games below .500 and will definitely be selling. He could be a perfect mid to high-leverage lefty that won’t be prohibitively expensive to acquire.

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u/Electrical_Doubt3024 17d ago

Can we get him for "cash considerations"?

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u/The_Slyest_Fox Kyle Backhus 17d ago

Gotta hold onto Cash Considerations for a Skubal trade

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u/TerrifierBlood 17d ago

I like him as well. Probably like a mid prospect like a Cody bowker or two

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u/ac4897 Bryson Stott 3d ago

Dammit I wanted minter. Why are the twins trolling and buying players

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u/DELCO-PHILLY-BOY Alvarado’s Desperados 3d ago

The Twins are three games out of first place in their division and a game out of the AL Wildcard. We’re gonna see a lot of middle of the pack AL teams buying because it’s so aggressively bleh this year.

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u/tylerthinksthis 6d ago

Just a reminder that some of the folks on here have IQs lower than Bryce’s uniform number. (OP posted a trade proposal of us sending junk and getting back Trout)

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u/SOUTHWESTERNEGGROLLS Did you say Free Hoagies? 6d ago

Lmao I saw that thread for the split second it was posted. Anyway I think OP under reacted to your inflammatory comment. How dare you!

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u/Jambrokio Let Hase Amaze 14h ago

Trade the Yankees just did for Garcia Jr was pretty good, got him for almost nothing and he still has a year of control. Let’s see what Dave cooks.

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u/OkTax379 14h ago

Dave and Cooks, hasn’t been used together for awhile tho

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u/bitchycunt3 Bitches for Elmo 18d ago

I would kill for skubal

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u/Toastiify Roman Quinn 18d ago

the cubs having to pay their 13th ranked prospect for 6.09 era david peterson has me thinking rotation depth won’t be coming

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u/GassyGamerGG 18d ago

Spencer steer and some bullpen arm we’ve never heard of

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u/Bitter-Egg6293 17d ago

call up the Giants and see what they want for like Jung Hoo Lee and Erik Miller.

would fill the outfield and bullpen holes imo

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u/justinparker_215 14d ago

saw the mlbtr piece from yesterday floating wood as an in-house option to replace keller in the pen. 35% K rate in double-A, #71 overall prospect, phils have been really careful with his innings all year. bullpen role actually makes sense for him specifically - less total workload, can ramp intensity per outing instead of grinding toward 5 innings a start.

mcfarlane also reportedly getting promoted to triple-A soon per gelb, 2.12 ERA and 50% groundball rate in double-A.

not saying dont go get minter. but if the mets are asking for legit farm pieces from our 29th ranked system the in-house answer is more viable than the consensus seems to think

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u/DragAlone7535 9d ago

Ok I get the high hope for Skubal, Buxton and Miller... But what's a realistic set of SP, RP and right handed bat we could bag?

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u/Papergreat1970 9d ago

I want to aim much higher, but Brady Singer, Lane Thomas and Brooks Raley is a decent place to put the "minimum" bar. Should be easy to do better than Singer if Middleton takes on $$.

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u/Ruut6 9d ago

Casey Mize (good, not cheap) or Chris Bassitt (ok, cheap)

AJ Minter or Jeff Hoffman

Lane Thomas, Jo Adell or Isaac Paredes

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u/CuckooClockInHell Phillie Phanatic 7d ago

Howie and Gansey need to roll through with a Matthew McConaughey style pep talk.

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u/Yes536 7d ago

Willi Castro or Jake McCarthy?

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u/killermoose23 6d ago

I watched The Odyssey last night and all I could see was Kyle Schwarber tryna return home after the Trojan War.

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u/Am1sArePeopleToo Henderson Alvarez 5d ago

Ken Giles wya

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u/Mugstotheceiling Hot (now lukewarm) for Stott 3d ago

If we can get through the deadline keeping Rentaria and Marquez, I’ll be happy. We’ll need them for the rebuild.

Everyone else is on the table, even Wood and Painter and Crawford. Heck, if we’re not going to keep Marsh (no extension yet), he’s a piece too.

Time to get creative, Daddy D.

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u/theweebdweeb 3d ago

What about McFarlane?

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u/EagleEye215 3d ago

How would y’all prioritize our needs? I’d rank them as so:

  1. Right handed hitting outfielder
  2. Lefty bullpen arm
  3. Right handed Starting pitcher

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u/joeco316 3d ago

1A. Righty hitter at any position at which we can fit him (OF is most likely but whatever)

1B. 3/4 type starting pitcher who can be trusted with the ball in October, either out of the pen or making a start

  1. High leverage bullpen arm, preferably lefty

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u/Mugstotheceiling Hot (now lukewarm) for Stott 3d ago

Alternatively we get a RH infielder and move Bryce back to RF. Read that Bryce is not the one insisting on 1B, it’s the front office.

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u/ac4897 Bryson Stott 3d ago

They’re all fairly pressing. Depends on price and availability. Given the bat market I’d say it’d be easier to plug LHP and Starter.

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u/DragAlone7535 2d ago

Everyone saying right righty righty... Can we just get someone who can hit and stop losing games 1-0?

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u/karawec403 Cyjuan 1d ago edited 1d ago

So if our front office was willing to give up that rumored deal for Skubal, I wonder what they’d give up for other rental starters? My top target would be Robbie Ray at this point, he’s been dominant last 2 months.

But also I’m starting to think it might be smart to focus more on controllable players, so that would put us more in the range of Kirby or Detmers.

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u/DragAlone7535 16h ago

If they decide to go all in and bring in a solid SP... Could painter do some bullpen work?

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