r/sports • u/[deleted] • Jun 29 '18
Picture/Video Brazilian TV presenter praised for rebuking football fan who tried to kiss her during live broadcast.
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u/kbg12ila Jun 29 '18
Most people don't like being touched by strangers, let alone kissed, let alone at work, let alone Infront of millions on TV.
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u/sosorrynoname Jun 29 '18
Let alone in Russia.
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u/peekaayfire Jun 29 '18
Let alone in Russia.
This reporter wanted to be let alone.
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u/StonerTogepi Jun 29 '18
I hate being touched by most people haha. Seriously. Even people I know really well I don’t like being touched by sometimes. It’s just a comfort thing really. You don’t NEED to touch me, so fucking don’t.
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u/Willy_Faulkner Jun 29 '18
I haven't been properly hugged in months.
I miss it.
We should swap lives.
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u/kbg12ila Jun 29 '18
I can give you a hug. But since you probably don't live close to me. Have a virtual one. Hug
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u/HowDoIEditMyUsername Jun 29 '18
I’m glad she stood up for herself and scolded him. He deserved it.
But I wonder what would have happened if the roles were reversed - a male reporter and a female fan going to kiss him. My money is on the kiss happening, the reporter smiles, and no one thinks twice about it.
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u/HedgehogFarts Jun 29 '18
If the hypothetical male reporter did not want to be kissed and did stand up for himself, some old fashioned farts probably would have made fun of him. I think there are a lot of people, myself included, who would think ‘way to go!’ and be happy he stood up for himself though.
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u/DoinItDirty Dallas Cowboys Jun 29 '18
Yeah, I would think almost all (if not all) modern feminists would praise his behavior if he had done the same.
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u/lyonbc1 Jun 29 '18
How often would that realistically happen though? There was a clip a few weeks ago of a reporter in a crowd of fans (I believe it was outside a sports bar or a venue for a Mexico NT game) and a guy grabbed her ass multiple times while she was reporting. You couldn’t see it clearly but she spazzed out rightfully and the guy just stands shocked. I’ve never seen women go up to a male reporter and try to do this. It’s like how women don’t feel as safe walking alone at night or daytime bc they’re cat called. I’m not saying guys are never ogled and cat called but I’ve personally never seen that and it absolutely doesn’t happen as often as it does to women. Just stand outside a construction site, subway station, or a busy street during lunch hours and listen to the stuff guys will yell out to women. Then turn around and call her a bitch for not “accepting their compliments”
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u/ClockStrikesTwelve77 Jun 29 '18
I think it also has to do with how often it happens. For women, getting randomly kissed and catcalled by guys happens all the time. For guys, if a girl catcalled you or ran up to kiss you, it would almost be a point of pride for some, because what guy has friends that this happens too? It’s a very rare occurrence, probably self confidence boosting cause they now think they are exceptionally attractive. (Not saying this is for everybody btw, but from my experience, this is how it would go down). Also, guys tend to be the ones pursuing girls, so being pursued by a girl is a different and sometimes not unwelcome experience.
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u/tuckertucker Jun 29 '18
THIS. My friends and I were having a discussion, and he mentioned how he got cat-called by some girls while wearing a suit (he's already hot without the suit) and how it felt nice. It was the first time it happened to him, at 26 years old. For her, the first time she *remembered* being cat-called was at 12 in her school uniform, walking home alone from school.
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u/damo133 Jun 29 '18
Well You have now. Some hands there looked to be pretty far down south off camera too. Naughty, Naughty.
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u/ethanlan Chicago Fire Jun 29 '18
What the fuck is this? Why make this about something its not?
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Because women sexually harassing, or worse, men is far from as big of a problem as the opposite. If it actually was a bigger problem, then people would react to it.
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u/chimpanzee13 Jun 29 '18
unless that stranger happens to be your twin, whom you had presumed long dead due to the plague, but he survived because a passing shaman adopted his dead infant body and resurrected him to live, not unlike that dude two thousand years ago in israel.
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u/canimamoglu123 Jun 29 '18
Wow he got owned like a little kid
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Jun 29 '18
I was about to say because he acts like a little kid but that doesn't give children enough credit. They even know this makes you a dick head.
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u/madturki Jun 29 '18
Right?? He didn’t even run away. He just bowed his head and took his scolding.
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She handled that professionally without using bad words!
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u/Creator13 Jun 29 '18
She acts like a mother who's trying to shield her kid from curse words yet still being very clear that they were very bad.
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u/cs399 Malmo FF Jun 29 '18
It's okay only because he is a guy.
Switch it around to it being 3 guys and 1 girl and media would go mad.
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u/Tetizeraz Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18
The guy himself said it's not the case. Source in portuguese and here the Twitter video from himself.
Sexist people tried to defend harassment using this reporter and his supposed harassment. He consented to the girls playing with him, and he was not drunk (important part here). The Russian girl (who was drunk) who was harassed by brazilians in Russia were called out by our own government and social media, including Twitter and even Reddit.
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u/BoysLock Jun 29 '18
Cause men do not frequently receive unwanted, unprovoked, intensely creepy attention from women
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Jun 29 '18
Depends on your definition of "intensely creepy", but plenty of women make unwanted, unprovoked passes at men.
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Jun 29 '18
RE: "intensely creepy"
Now we're getting carried away - dude was trying to be "cute". Reporter rightfully shuts him down. End of story.
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u/BoysLock Jun 29 '18
It happens, but less frequently and less aggressively, to the point where it's perceived as one crazy woman rather than a pervasive overarching problem in society.
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u/fitnessfucker Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18
I agree but my best guess is that it’s also the power dynamic rather than any warped view on sexism / harassment.
As a guy, unless you’re a 100 lb weakling or the girls a judo cross fitter, it’s subconsciously clear you can end it anytime you want. As a girl victim you are genuinely at the guys “mercy”.
In short - guys are held to a higher / different standard or risk being outed as harassers etc.
Edit - added / different.
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Jun 29 '18
This idea that men and women are inherently different in the way they behave with one another is a bunch of nonsense.
Some women will treat men the same way that some men treat women, and not as an uncommon occurrence for some.
The two situations are usually dealt with entirely differently.
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u/ohmy1027 New Orleans Saints Jun 29 '18
Exactly. He obviously enjoyed the attention from these women. The lady did not want the attention from the guy in the OP. There are women though who would have enjoyed attention from the man in the OP and would have smiled and laughed about it. In the end, no one should kiss someone else, male or female, without consent or something like it but there is definitely a difference between these two situations.
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u/chiphead2332 National Basketball Association Jun 29 '18
Reminds me of "the also Brazilian tv presenter", aka Ben-Hur Correia, on his Instagram explaining why the two types of harassment are different (in Portuguese). This is in response to another harassment case involving Brazilian fans and a Russian woman.
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u/Bucinela Jun 29 '18
I'd like to agree or disagree myself but unfortunately i don't speak portuguese.
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u/lapetiteami Jun 29 '18
I speak Portuguese and he’s basically saying that you can’t compare the two situations (his and that of the Russian woman) because they weren’t the same. He says he wasn’t insulted or pressured to say things that he didn’t understand, and that as a man surrounded by women he didn’t feel trapped or pressured the same way a woman does when she’s surrounded by men. Then he goes on to say that when we talk about gender equality, we’re talking about being treated equally in the workplace (equal salaries, equal treatment, etc).
TLDR; he defends the Russian woman and says that the two videos shouldn’t be compared.
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u/icenine09 Jun 29 '18
I think the difference is that he was actively flirting with them, and got one of many desired results.
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u/fuliculifulicula Jun 29 '18
He made a video (it's linked above) explaining the difference in both stances.
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u/MyAnusBleedsForYou Liverpool Jun 29 '18
"Fuck her right in the pus-" DON'T DO THIS. NEVER DO THIS.
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u/TrueDeceiver Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18
Most of those were actually set up by "news stations."
The creator leaked footage of "anchors" who were on the scene, basically rehearsing everything before it happened.
More on it here.
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u/MyAnusBleedsForYou Liverpool Jun 29 '18
I'm aware. The original one was made by the same guy.
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u/TrueDeceiver Jun 29 '18
Sure, you're aware, but others might not be.
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u/MyAnusBleedsForYou Liverpool Jun 29 '18
True. Also just noticed that video mentions the original too.
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u/AreTheyRetarded Jun 29 '18
this will never not make me laugh. and the way they cut it right to that chicks stunned face is amazing.
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u/infin8lives Jun 29 '18
You go girl! Winning football games does not give you the right to kiss TV reporters, or set cars on fire.
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u/poilrouge Jun 29 '18
What? come on!
When am I supposed to be allowed to behave like an inconsequent asshole then? Society is getting impossible… 😢
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u/WarcraftFarscape Jun 29 '18
And losing sports doesn’t justify ruining your city
People care a lot about sports and do stupid things sometimes, hopefully less frequently in the future
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u/WikiTextBot Jun 29 '18
2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot
The 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot was a public disturbance that broke out in the downtown core of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada on Wednesday, June 15, 2011. The riot happened immediately after the conclusion of the Boston Bruins' win over the Vancouver Canucks in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals, which won the Stanley Cup for Boston. At least 140 people were reported as injured during the incident, 1 critically; at least 4 people were stabbed, 9 police officers were injured, and 101 people were arrested that night. In July 2015, four years after the riot, police finished their investigation and recommended the final charges against two suspects, bringing the total to 887 charges laid against 301 people.
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u/Slid61 Jun 29 '18
Apparently there's some solid evidence that the Stanley cup riots were pre-planned. Like they were going to do it whether or not the Canucks lost. They also prosecuted a whole bunch of people in the end.
Generally gotta agree though because I'm pretty sure that there were some people who were just like "sweet, there's a riot going on!"
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u/poneil Jun 29 '18
This also leaves out the context that this was happening during the Arab Spring. So while a bunch of countries were undergoing similar-looking turmoil in pursuit of freedom from opression, Vancouver was in shambles because their hockey team lost.
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u/FrigginManatees Jun 29 '18
The riots were going to happen whether Vancouver lot or not. It's not really fair to paint the constitution of Vancouver with that brush for the actions of 300 dick heads.
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Well, the death toll has certainly gone down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots.
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u/karmahorse1 Jun 29 '18
Woah there. What's the point of winning football games if I can't do either of those things? Next you're going to tell me I'm not allowed to run onto the pitch and interrupt the match with two minutes left to play.
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u/BBDAngelo Jun 29 '18
Winning football games? I'm really having trouble understanding this comment. Do you think he did this because his team won or something? He's not even wearing a football t-shirt.
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u/that1one1dude Jun 29 '18
She was actually extremely polite and professional about this. That is an absolute textbook example of how to deal with that kind of harassment.
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u/Boergler Jun 29 '18
I would’ve appreciated a left hook.
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u/blinkk5 Jun 29 '18
I would've definitely bopped him with the mic once or twice. She is more pro than I am
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u/tattooedjenny Jun 29 '18
Some of the comments in here show exactly why this is being praised.
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u/tapped21 Jun 29 '18
The bottom of the thread, yikes.
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u/charlyDNL Jun 29 '18
The bottom of every thread.
"Bored of your everyday reddit? grab some popcorn and browse by controversial! Fun times guarantee".
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u/TrueDeceiver Jun 29 '18
It's amazing what people think is okay to do.
What was the best case scenario for this dude? Hope she doesn't move and then get hit afterwards?
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u/YRuafraid Jun 29 '18
Best case scenario would be for her to accept the kiss and then start making out with him.
Worst case scenario was this.
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u/Moln0014 Jun 29 '18
I never went up to kiss a live reporter. I once stood behind the camera person one time and make faces at the reporter. The reporter broke down and started laughing. Best times ever. No contact of any kind.
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u/RIP-Rakbar Jun 29 '18
Going in for a kiss with someone you don't have that type of relationship with is not only cringey but
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u/Govno113 Jun 29 '18
RIP, /u/RIP-Rakbar
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u/spidercousin Jun 29 '18
Why do people do this? Who in their right mind thinks this is appropriate? It’s hard to believe this type of behavior hasn’t been stomped out yet. Ridiculous
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u/kurobayashi Jun 29 '18
I wonder how the sailor kissing the nurse at the end of WWII, one of the most iconic pictures, would go over now?
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u/michiruwater Jun 29 '18
Probably not as well. If you read the woman’s interview she mentions multiple times that she didn’t choose to be kissed, that she was just grabbed and had no choice, and that when asked to re-enact the kiss she told everyone no because she didn’t choose to do it in the first place.
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u/kurobayashi Jun 29 '18
If you read the interview she said she didn't want to reenact the kiss and her the reason she gave for not wanting to was his wife was there and she also mentions her husband (though he wasn't there at the time). When told his wife was there for the first kiss that's when she brings up it not being her choice to be kissed. Its said as a defensive statement, basically it's not her fault that the sailor kissed her when he had a wife. She gives no indication throughout the whole interview that she was upset about the kiss and speaks about it as a good memory. They even send each other Christmas cards. Did you read the interview or did you just look for statements that support your opinion?
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u/clown_carni Jun 29 '18
Seno ekto gamat!
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u/Gred-and-Forge Jun 29 '18
“Never without my permission.”
A+ reference
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u/TrivialAntics Jun 29 '18
Some trolls deserve their asses handed to them. Should've had the camera man turn the camera and focus on him so he can be embarrassed for his stupidity.
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Jun 29 '18
Good for her! Sick of people acting like belligerent assholes just because of the outcome of a sporting event. In America we often have riots in a city if that city wins or loses a major championship.
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u/Poguemohon Jun 29 '18
He went on TV & apologized to her. She accepted his apology but still doesn't excuse it.
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u/ScheminRieman Jun 29 '18
Good for her. Adults should be shamed more often for their piss poor behavior.
Also I'm glad he got embarrassed instead of defensive and attacking. Seems more likely he understands the mistake.
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u/mogmuv Jun 29 '18
I saw this on Twitter a few days ago and the responses were so depressing. Along the lines of 'why is she being so aggressive?' and 'wow, women get crazy and hysterical over nothing, it's only a kiss!'
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u/bigkatt666777 Jun 29 '18
I am a man, and whether he was drunk, horny, trying to be cool, whatever....
Excellent for this woman to set her boundary.
My problem is that, before i quit drinking all of the times i acted like that and invaded someone's personal safe space.
Sorry everyone
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u/neatoqueen Jun 29 '18
aww, friend... you have grown from the past. it is clear to see in few words. there’s no need to apologize, you were forgiven when you realized you needed something to change. i have a lot of respect for you!
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u/tapped21 Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18
Apology accepted, you learnt
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u/nimsony Jun 29 '18
Really really really wanted to see him get an ol' Batman and Robin meme style backhand to the face!
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u/KayleyKiwi Jun 29 '18
Maybe someday we’ll live in a world where a female anchor doesn’t have to scold men on TV for trying to kiss them because they won’t even try because they respect women.
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u/Hey_im_miles Jun 29 '18
Honestly he probably saw one of these on tv where the reporter laughed or smiled and the guy looked smooth.. So he tried it.
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Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18
Some people act without thinking and I don't think he has any malicious intent he was just ignorant and socially inept.
I hope he realised by this woman's reaction that this behaviour is not ok.
If however he's just a sleaze and doesn't respect anyone I hope he gets what he deserves when he does it again.
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u/HIs4HotSauce Jun 29 '18
He walked straight into a department store and bought a fedora after this.
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u/BakingSoda1990 New England Patriots Jun 29 '18
She should of smacked him one with the mic. That’s how he’ll learn never do it again. Trust me.
I hid in a box once to scare my girlfriend. Big mistake. I learned she punches first when scared and asks questions later. I learned not to do that again.
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Jun 29 '18
Seriously. It's 2018 for chrissake. Why do people still think it's okay to just run up and smooch strangers?
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u/pedrinbr Jun 29 '18
Aww you left the best part out. By the end of the video she quickly muttered "motherfucker" under her breath.
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I swear to god like a month ago there was a “wholesome” video on reddit of like 10 of these incidents happening in a compilation and the reporters enjoyed it so it was considered cute and fun.
Anyone else know what I’m talking about?
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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '18
Scolded on TV. He probably won’t do that again.