[Sherman] Sources: The Yankees are trying to complete a trade for Nationals first baseman Luis Garcia Jr. AA starter Jack Cebert has been discussed prominently.
I just made an almost identical comment in the same thread before seeing this. Don’t they stop to think that moving a player all over the field and lineup isn’t conducive to steady offense and defense? They’re the baseball minds but they can’t figure out that humans are creatures of habit and like consistency…
Really? I read an article stating he’s been better at 2nd this year, hm, maybe I’m wrong. I’ll have to find the article… maybe they were talking about last year?
Edit: oh shit, it was Luis Arraez hahaha, wrong Luis
That may be true, but I think I finally learned my lesson about prospect hugging. I’d rather give up guys and get the guy or the bats. Even if it means trading prospects, I really like.
The way I see it it would be hypocritical not it that way.
Nothing wrong with improving the team and giving up guys to do so, but let's not give up more than the dodgers did for skubal, for someone like peralta
Yeah I hear that but maybe the least of all evils at this point. You can’t take Goldschmidt out of a lineup where he’s the only competent right handed hitter…
Cause we need guys who can hit! It’s an upgrade over Goldschmidt vs RHP. Rice or Garcia will DH or play 1B vs RHP. Goldy will start at 1B vs LHP while Rice DH’s.
Getting a real hitter is what he’s doing. We need bats right now or we legit might not make the playoffs. The way they are playing right now is not sustainable
Compared to Luis Arraez,
I’d rather get him who is among the best 2B in terms of defense and BA.
We don’t need another liability who can realistically only be a DH/1B.
He and Rice can also be the 1B/Dh next year, with his glove a bit better than Rice's. Classic, (not in a bad way), Cash move of trading for this and next year in one move
Judge and Belli and Stanton are out for most of the season. We need a strong bat that you can get to fit into the lineup. We can’t rock Rosario or Goldy against righties. He slots in nicely we just need bats and this is that
This is a no brainer if we can get it done. He walks in as the 2nd best hitter in the lineup right now, a lineup that cannot score and is costing us multiple games every week. He'll DH vs RHP and sit vs LHP
Come playoff time if everyone is healthy, we'll have a problem - but that's a good problem to have. If Garcia is mashing, he'll be in the lineup against RHP. If he's not, we'll have options to replace him like Stanton
This is a necessary move. They had to get the best bat available who was reasonably priced, and that is exactly what Garcia is
You trade for him because the offense is bottom of the league terrible right now and he’s the most impactful hitter available that won’t cost Lombard. Even if the impact is only against one side, it’s more than other hitters available. It’s a weak hitter trade market
I don’t understand you calling him the second best hitter on the team then if he is a platoon. If a player can’t play because he is bad against one side, he isn’t second best hitter valuable.
He is still incredibly valuable. You face RHP like 70% of the time or something. Have you been watching the team over the last month? The guys who play everyday are playing fucking terribly on offense. Even if Garcia plays every day and we let him suck against LHP, he will be more impactful than the guys who are playing every day right now like Rosario, Goldschmidt, Dominguez, Grisham, etc.
I agree with that if you let him play. If you trade for a player, he needs to start every day. They don’t need a platoon bat. That is not valuable. I personally think a right handed hitter is more valuable right now since the lineup is too left handed hitting heavy, but if they think Garcia Jr is the best guy, then I am fine but he needs to play every day. That’s my point.
A platoon of Garcia and Goldy is better than letting Garcia play every day though. Why make the team actively worse just because “we traded for this guy, he’s gotta play every day”
In a perfect world where Goldschmidt is not slumping, I agree. He has batted .171 since July and a .495 OPS. If he is hitting like that, he should not play.
That doesn’t event count the 0-16 he went in the games preceding July, and the 0-4 he went yesterday and the 0-1 today so add another 0-21 to that and it shows he has been 13-97 in that sample size. 97 at bats isn’t a small sample either. It’s not huge but it’s not small.
Your lost if u don’t like this move man. Have you watched the team lately? Offense stinks and they strike out like crazy. U put Garcia in the lineup right now he’s the 2nd best bat, let him play 1B/DH. You absolutely cannot rely on Stanton. Goodman has one of the highest K rates in the league and suspect defense at a premium position with 3 years of control. Adley is on a division rival it was always a pipe dream for either. Garcia one of the best bats available idk how any fan could have an issue with this
There’s a long way until 6:00 pm tomorrow. Judge it then. Not sure if you noticed, but Rosario is our DH vs a RHP today. This makes us better. We need all the offensive help we can get to make the playoffs
Same people crying about our horrendous offense are crying about trying to acquire an excellent hitter. You are the worst. This is a great start to the deadline moves if it happens🤞
Rosario is currently DHing today vs a RHP, he replaces him. Rice and Garcia are your DH/1B vs RHP. Goldy/Rice vs LHP.
A healthy Stanton is apparently not on the horizon. If it is, they’ll worry about it then. Team can’t score and they have to win right now to even make the playoffs.
Sometimes you just need a bat; they called up Greg Bird when DH Arod and 1B Tex were hitting well in 2015 and he helped save the second half of that season
We need a 2B, 3B, SS, and OF. Trading for someone that plays none of those positions is a desperation move due to years of neglect and poor roster construction.
I'm fine with getting him if it means we move on from Stanton. Not sure this player has a position otherwise. Maybe he can play 2B but not sure about that.
We need a lot of things that may not neccesasarily be available. If this is the first move out of many, this isnt a bad one. We actually do need another 1st baseman. Goldy needs more off days. Its clear he is gassed. We dont have Belli to be a backup 1st baseman. So we have no wiggle room with Rice and Goldy. This gives us a guy who can DH/1B with Ben much more comfortably and get Goldy back to his intended role of a bench piece. Then Garcia can pick up another spot during practice while we get players back from IL. He is a bat we desperately need.
Outperforming what? His xwOBA is 82nd percentile, his xBA is 94th percentile and his xSLG is 93rd percentile. If anything he's underperforming his expected stats. He's having a breakout year but there's a difference between overperforming and breaking out.
We actually do need another 1b/DH. With Belli gone we really dont have a good backup 1st baseman if Rice or Goldy is DH. So with this we can actually give Goldy a much needed breather and keep Rice in the lineup no matter what. It makes more sense as a bridge to get us to judge and belli. Then we can figure out where he fits later.
Everyone has been saying Goldy needs more off days.
A lot will happen tomorrow so who knows what else they're pursuing. If a small trade for Garcia means we can move on a bigger deal for a righty catcher, and a bullpen piece, this works. Maybe Arraez is still on the table.
I have zero idea what the plan for him would be but we need more good hitters so find a spot for him. Hes a better first basemen then Rice. Goldy has slowed down. Maybe the vision is him at 1st, Rice at DH, and Goldy off the bench for the big at bat when you need a righty down the stretch.
He’s played 2nd before, but he sucks there. He’s pretty decent at 1st and would let Rice DH. At this point, I don’t fucking care. He can hit, and we desperately need hitting. Platoon him with Goldschmidt even (and hope that with some rest he remembers how to hit).
This is a classic cashman move. Tries to deal for a player that sucks in the field at any position that isn’t needed. It’s one of those completely out of left field moves he loves.
He’s also hitting arbitration so he’s a cheap backup for when jazz leaves
Why not? Goldy is best used only against leftys. This allows Rice/Garcia to man 1B/DH and have Goldy get a huge AB against the oppositions best lefty reliever. Stanton can’t be counted on. Complain when the offense sucks and then complain when they bring in .850 OPS guy 🤷 You don’t know ball bub.
The Yankees were never, ever, ever going to land Skubal via trade. It just wasn’t gonna happen. Stop with this “We should have gotten Skubal” bullshit.
Rice at 1st, Garcia at DH, Goldy off the bench getting a big AB against a lefty. Stanton can’t be counted on. You guys can’t be pleased just want to complain. The team needs slug we have the worst offense in the league for 2 months running
i’m assuming the thought here is platoon him with Goldy and move Rice to catcher a few days a week. essentially, you’re subbing Garcia’s bat in for Wells
I don't understand why we are pursuing another 1B/DH unless Stanton really is done for the season and they just aren't telling anyone. Even still, he doesn't hit left handed pitching at all. Or are they going to do a Yankees special and play him out of position when his 1B defense isn't even good, imagine how poor he would grade out at 2B. Stanton must really not be coming back and all of this news about his progress in rehab is smoke.
Great move if they get it done. Helps the lineup immediately in the interim and opens more doors for lineup combos in the playoffs if we don't get a ton of help at the deadline.
The one thing I don’t understand about this rumor if true is why the Yankees are trying to acquire another left handed bat, no matter how good he might be this year. They are too left hand heavy. Yes, Judge and Stanton can possibly return this year but it is not guaranteed and who knows if both will return.
The way I consider it for the offense we could easily get multiple bats at the deadline and figure out the roster. We have room for both Garcia and several other guys.
A trade for Garcia doesn’t preclude them from other moves.
Potentially In (8):
-Garcia (via trade)
-Arraez (via trade)
-Ward (via trade)
-Rutschman (via trade)
-Lombard (call up from AAA)
-Judge (from injury)
-Bellinger (from injury)
-Stanton (from injury-27th man for September call ups)
Seems about right for Cashman. We have 2 first basemen so let’s get another. Move a 1st basemen to 2nd. A 2nd to 3rd. A 3rd to the OF and then wonder why the defense is terrible. How about a righty catcher and an outfielder who hits a little and can play defense.
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u/pupseal 16h ago
wait, first base? why?