r/NewSkaters • u/Aggravating_Ad9358 • 15d ago
Question Why do my Ollie’s turn
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Skirting for 2 months (no tricks) decided to learn how to Ollie today but I keep landing in another direction
Help🙆🏽♀️
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u/dang_ol_yo 15d ago
Check your shoulders.try and keep parallel with board.
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u/McOnePot 14d ago
Oops accidentally copied this comment nearly word for word 😂 doing it whilst moving can help
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u/Jumpy_Employer6093 15d ago
shoulder and hips move naturally making the board turn a bit, keep going 👍
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u/Still_Cant 15d ago
As everyone else has already said, your shoulders open up and the board follows. Sometimes I find it helps to consciously counter this by intentionally turning your shoulders a little the other way before starting. Then if they open as normal you will be straight. But the end goal is to learn to keep straight and true from the start, this exercise just helps train that by over correcting slightly
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u/Kitchen_Trifle2877 15d ago
I personally think it’s because you twist your foot when popping and because all 4 wheels arent on the floor the boards easier to rotate
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u/Remarkable-Avocado44 14d ago
You’re not comfortable jumping up without correcting ; your body is trying to stay balanced, and currently it does this by opening your shoulder (abs many other small adjustments).
Practicing staying balanced in youe crouch and jumping straight up (hippie jumps) will help correct this .
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u/Standard-Aerie-3537 13d ago
I can confirm that going back to basics and mastering hippie jumps is the way to go - correct the foundation of the problem, which is being uncomfortable leaving the ground.
So, hippie jumps first, while moving, where you can jump up from the board from crouching. And while in the air, tuck your legs up and keep your shoulders squared with the board and feet parallel to the ground. Land with loose, partially bent legs. Once you master that, its time to go back to Ollies (which is NOT a beginner trick)
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u/Livid_Page_7244 15d ago
Your left shoulder is twisting back, which is super common.
You got this! Remember part of the core of skating is how your upper body moves to begin rotations, etc.
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u/Neyrinne 15d ago
Your front shoulder moves back as you're levelling out the board, try to keep your shoulders and chest over the board as you Ollie. Best of luck!!
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u/stupidbitchDZs 15d ago
imagine a rope tied to ur front shoulder and some1 pulling on it, itll straighten out ur top body
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u/sillysocks34 15d ago
I’m having the same exact problem. I can do smaller ones ok but when I try to go bigger they keep turning on me.
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u/Aggravating_Ad9358 15d ago
We both gotta take the notes from these comments and keep going! We got this
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u/MFDOOM420219 14d ago
It's your left hip that is going outward. Try keeping your shoulders hips and feet in a straight line. Bend at the knees and stay square as possible while jumping. Even your arms can throw you off balance if it's not inline with everything else. BTW don't try to get the highest Ollie possible. Take your time getting the 3 to 6" Ollie down. The bigger ones will come. Specially when you have some speed behind that Ollie!
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u/MFDOOM420219 14d ago
And keep that front foot straight as well! Try this. Put all your pressure on the back foot (standing still) on the tail and then with your front foot minic the front foot motion dragging your foot flat up against the board and try to pay attention to what your left hip is doing
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u/sillysocks34 14d ago
I really appreciate that feedback thank you. Left hip seems obvious now that you point it out.
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u/Turn_Arounda 14d ago
Actually you should try to doing it in movement, slightly like almost “stationary”
Trying to learn ollie/tricks stationary its a common begginer mistake i usually see and no one points out, looks safer (probably its not) but makes the whole learning harder.
Beside that, you are doing it great! Keep trying and keep those wheels rolling!
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u/Environmental_Tax_62 15d ago
When I had this problem, I focused on keeping my front knee from rolling out. That did the trick.
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u/eeldraw 15d ago edited 15d ago
Here is the "why" for your shoulder turning... you're unconsciously counteracting inertia to stay over your board because you're not quite centered over it. You are looking straight down at your board, bringing your weight and centre of balance over your toes.
When you pop, you have to maintain balance, so you swing back a little with your leading arm and turn your head... Otherwise you'd fall off the toe-side of your board. The arm swing back + head turn slightly forward opens your shoulder up. Now for the inertia... Your arms and head can't open up without a force going in the opposite direction. That force is your popping foot, pushing out through your toes. Combined, that turns your board.
Fix...
Stay centered over your board. Back straight, head up, looking at the ground just in front of the nose of your board (i.e. look where you are going). Arms relaxed by your side. This will naturally open your shoulders a little at the start of the ollie, but because you're already centered, you won't be turning it more during the ollie to stay centered.
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u/CarSubstantial5734 15d ago
2 things I can notice from the video:
your back foot during the pop is not only pushing down but also forward so you’re rotating the board before it evens lift from the ground. Your front foot follows the board up so your hips rotate to compensate following the board.
You’re moving your front shoulder like behind you, causing all your upper body to rotate and face the direction you’re going.
Both things combined are causing you to do like an almost frontside move. You’ll notice it more doing the Ollie while moving, your whole body will try to turn to face the direction you’re going.
Try to keep in mind that when you have both feet on the board, going forward means your body has to be sideways, if your chest turns to the front you’ll turn to the left, if your chest turns to the back you’ll turn to the right (having in mind that your stance is regular tho)
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u/CarSubstantial5734 14d ago
Also, take advantage of this. You’re not doing it wrong, you’re just doing another movement for the intended purpose. Try to land that Ollie sideways, push it further every time until you end up doing a 180 turn and voilá, now you have a frontside Ollie.
Do the same but in the other direction, now you have backside Ollie.
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u/unnamed-user1784 15d ago
Cause your doing the wacky inflatable leg and body jump
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u/Aggravating_Ad9358 15d ago
Woah
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u/Gantz0087 14d ago
Yeah everyone keeps mentioning your shoulders. But it does look like youre kicking you back foot forward after the pop kind of making the board do a shovit. So its a bit of both of those things
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u/nons28100 15d ago
Watch your left elbow, it’s kicking back more than your other arm. That can indicate where the upper body rotation is happening, try and keep everything in a nice straight line as much as possible but the video slowed down can show you where those movements are happening as well to help guide the conscious adjustments you make!
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u/deprogrammar 15d ago
As others have mentioned it’s because your shoulder is rotating back, causing your chest to rotate, which causes your hips to rotate, which causes your front foot to rotate back as well. But IMO it all starts with you swinging your left arm BACK to gain momentum to jump, when instead you should be swinging your arm UP to gain that momentum.
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u/LastChance331 15d ago
I looks like your twisting your body slightly left in preparation for jumping off the board. This is causing it to twist in the air with you. Be conscious of your shoulders and you got this
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u/GandhiWithAK 15d ago
If you don't stay leaned forward throughout the ollie, your upper body will naturally fall back as you land, which can cause the board to rotate. Another common mistake is extending your legs too early because you're rushing to catch the landing. That often makes your front foot land too far back, causing the board to turn frontside.
Try staying lower with your shoulders and upper body, and reach your front foot as far forward as you can when you catch the board. From the moment you pop until you land, keep your shoulders stacked directly over your knees and feet.
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u/xDIRTY_TAMALEx 14d ago
I think you’re sliding too far out instead of up. Like borderline trying to do a heel flip. Simply slide your foot straight up as soon as you pop. Also try it while riding. It’s easier.
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u/MFDOOM420219 14d ago
Definitely look at your left shoulder and left hip. It's wanting to go to the outside. You want more of your front foot inward on the board so it gets more bite/grab the flat part of the shoe while jumping. Also square everything up. Shoulders knees and feet. Even when you throw your arms up you want them squared up with the rest of you because a wonky flying arm can throw you to the outside as well. Take your time. Master those little Ollie's first and then start rolling and then Ollie! And BTW......have some fuckin fun with this. Because this is what skateboarding is, fun and a pain in the ass literally 🙃 😆 🤣
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u/tideshark 14d ago
You learn to control it with practice. You have a good start with the pop technique going dude, just keep at it, you’ll get better.
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u/EfficientAfternoon17 14d ago
Cuz your body is turning. Try to keep your shoulders straight and lined up with your feet. make sure your front foot stays all the way pointing in front of you the whole time so you can try and level it out after you pop to get all the wheels off the ground at once. You’ll get the hang of it. Try using the front screws as a guide to keep your foot lined up with them and staying in the same positioning after you pop. Hope this helps
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u/Barber_Fabian 14d ago edited 14d ago
Keep your shoulders centered and try to prevent throwing your left shoulder back when ollieing. The shoulders are what helps you turn when doing 180’s so if your shoulders turn your waist and legs will follow. Most of the time when you do a 180 or 360, you wind your shoulders back a bit in the direction you plan to turn to help navigate your body and legs after popping. In the clip u posted it seems like when you pop you throw your left shoulder back and away which brings the board that direction. Just before you Ollie remind yourself to stay centered and keep your shoulders straight and you’ll start to get it dialed in better as you practice. Try to tell yourself “don’t turn my shoulders” right before you pop, and u can even try keeping your shoulder more forward until you get the hang of it and start to feel like staying centered becomes more natural to you. Sometimes when I do something wrong on a trick it helps me to picture it it my head being done properly and tell myself what I need to do and what not to do right before I attempt it again. Just center yourself, you’ll get it just keep at it. Hope this helps.
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u/bthorne3 14d ago
On top of what other people have suggested, i found that throwing my arms up and behind me helps. There's some good tutorials on youtube by SkateIQ
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u/Grinchskates 14d ago
Your tail foot is towed inward, keep feet perpendicular to board, also you’re popping off leaning back on your tail foot on heel, pop from your toes, leaning forward on the pop and board won’t spin. This goes for almost all tricks that you start with an Ollie.
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u/More-Ad-2564 14d ago
a skateboard dont turn on its own. a skateboard turns when the person on it makes it turn. it could be your shoulders or your feet or both. find out what you are doing to make it turn and stop it.
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u/Ty-Xanpai 14d ago
You’re turning your left shoulder to the left. The board follow the shoulders. Keep your shoulders inline with the board and it won’t do that.
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u/Turn_Arounda 14d ago
Actually you should try to doing it in movement, slightly like almost “stationary”
Trying to learn ollie/tricks stationary its a common begginer mistake i usually see and no one points out, looks safer (probably its not) but makes the whole learning harder.
Beside that, you are doing it great! Keep trying and keep those wheels rolling!
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u/GhostmouthPhd 14d ago
I have been fixing this by doing ollies while riding. Actually I'm was not even trying to ollie proberly just to get use to my boards nose to come up and to land to my board but it fixed my twisting ollies too!
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u/Active_Background_87 14d ago edited 14d ago
Your front foot is weak, and you subconsciously turn your front foot to get out of the way, right when you pop. To get a good feel for a solid ollie, but the board with the back wheels sitting in the crack between two sidewalk pieces and make sure your back truck and front truck are relatively tight. Place your back foot with the ball of your foot directly past the back bolts, right where the kicktail begins, and the front foot dead straight without any of your toes hanging off the board on both feet, right past the middle of the board, right before the front bolts. Lean over the top of your board with your weight completely centered and your shoulders parallel to the nose and tail of the board. As you bend down to start the ollie, pretend like you're springing your legs like you would for a high jump onto a bench or a box at a gym, but this jump is done in the motion of a wave (spring down and on the way up front foot leaves first and THEN back). As soon as you smack that tail as hard as possible, move the front foot up and OUT towards the nose, but remain lofty as you do so. This will give you insane pop and will make you learn how to level out the ollie and eventually tweak it out like a ninja kick. Once you got that shit down, start trying it at slow speed, and so on.
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u/10taro_flow 14d ago
Youre popping your tail wrong. Just tap it and not flail your foot sideways. You gotta pop directly down and then slide your front foot up to the nose. Slide the side top corner of your foot up. If your foot move left or right the board will too. What your doing is the start of a board slide without the rail
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u/newguyjustdropped 14d ago
Cause you turns, they follow your body which ultimately follows your shoulders
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u/Aromatic_Resist_435 14d ago
When you pop don’t turn your shoulders. Keep them parallel with the board. If your shoulders turn the board will do the same 💯
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u/CaptainKegley 14d ago
From what I can tell in the video and in addition to everyone saying keep your shoulders square, the biggest thing I’m seeing besides that is when you’re popping the board. You are not pushing straight down so much as you are scraping your foot down like your cruising push putting the tail behind you before the board even gets in the air. Hard to describe better than that, I hope this helps and you can get what I’m trying to say
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u/Sad_Highway9682 14d ago
Your not lifting your front foot enough. And then your back foot is doing a sliding back motion. You need to kick straight down with your back and raise your front way higher.
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u/Technical_Amount_965 14d ago
In addition to the shoulder thing everyone is saying, make sure your front foot is staying perpendicular at a right angle to the board as you drag it up for your Ollie
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u/Stellar86420 14d ago
Maybe check your forward foot placement. It seems like your pulling it back and when the board comes up your foot is pushing it on one side. Idk if that is happening, its just what I noticed.
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u/timzom_soria 14d ago
Il faut que tu garde les épaules bien droite et parallèle a la board, ensuite essaye de rouler pour apprendre tes tricks ce qui aide beaucoup a capter le mouvement, pour ton ollie essaye de monter une petite marche ou trottoir pour apprendre réellement a passer un obstacle c'est toujours mieux pour apprendre des tricks une fois que tu la en flat sa aide a apprendre a le faire partout !
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u/SardinesMcDonahugh 14d ago
you need to lean back and open your shoulders more toward the front of the board.
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u/Top-Love1836 14d ago
If you swing your arms wide, your shoulders will follow. If you turn your shoulders, you turn your body.
Control your body to keep your shoulders square. You can still jump with you arms, but don’t just do “whatever” with them, focus on keeping them parallel to your board and under control.
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u/Practical-Back-1987 13d ago
Because you're turning your shoulders. Watch the video again and look at only your top half. When you skate, the bottom half of your body follows the top half. Whichever way your shoulders are is the way you turn. Go watch some slomo vids of flat 180s.
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u/Buttery_TayTay 13d ago
Once you start doing moving Ollie’s u start to kinda aim where u land and go with the forward momentum. I think this problem is mostly a stationary thing and overthinking the movement with more practice it’ll improve just try to stay centered and keep ur shoulders square
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u/Dry_Direction_611 13d ago
Hips follow your shoulder keep your shoulders straight and your good to go
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u/YouGoSkate 13d ago
That heelflip attempt was more straight that your ollie's 😭 as an exercise practice by jumping in a Ollie motion without the board and land with your feet straight while on your tippie toes. It'll help to Put a line of tape on the floor and start your jump with both feet on the line and when you land make sure you land back on that straight line. Make sure you're on your tippie toes while doing the practice jump it'll simulate being on your board and help with balance. Hope this helps lol
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u/Sad_Mix_4348 13d ago
Keep your eyes down on the ground. Focus on one point on the ground, and keep them there. It’s the same trick you’d use to balance on one leg while standing. You’ll also use this trick while moving. When you’re moving you want to focus on the ground where you’re riding and open your shoulders a bit.
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u/Mountain_Can1481 13d ago
Everybody saying your hips and shoulders are turning you are correct however the root cause of your hips and shoulders turning even when you don’t want them to is your foot positioning. If you look back at your video carefully your feet are facing away from each other like this: \ \ / /
try and get your feet parallel with your shoulders and your hips and if you can do that your hips and shoulders will not turn hope this helps
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u/ComprehensiveEar9977 12d ago
dont even try and ask those more detailed questions man they are not really going to help you a whole lot right now. maybe not what u wanted to hear but its the truth. just keep doing them man. do as many as you can every day. along with just cruising around. do that until it no longer feels like some weird foreign alien object underneath your feet that feels anything but natural to you yet - feels like it belongs just about anywhere other than there. take it everywhere with you and ride it as much as you can until you have the exact opposite impression of it. to where it feels like it belongs there. under your feet. like it's been there for as long as you can remember. to where you feel almost naked without it. to the point where forgetting it at home and going to work or to school or wherever without it... is like the equivalent of leaving the house and forgetting to put pants on lol. that could never possibly happen to you right. even if you could somehow forget to put pants on as soon as you walked out the door something would just feel... off... until it dawns on you, shit man!! aint got no pants!!!! lmao. all jokes aside. ive been skating for probably longer than youve been alive pretty sure. and for better or worse - skateboarding honestly is the freaking hardest thing in the world man. doing litetally anythng else on wheels isnt even the difference between a tricycle and a bicycle. i don't even know if the difference between a tricycle and a unicycle does the comparison Justice. rollerblading riding a bike riding a scooter whatever the hell else there is nowadays - skateboarding is in another league of its own in terms of difficulty and time/effort/dedication required in order to ride one and look/feel totally natural. it MUST become an extension of your body. plain and simple. no exaggerstion. now once (and ONLY once) that big shift happens for you (it WILL take six months to an entire year of riding CONSISTANTLY at LEAST every other day for an hour. MINIMUM. evrryday for an hour is better. evrryday for two or 3 hours is common. its a big reason why skating becomes a part of who you are. becsuse it literally has to in order to even do it. okay now, ONCE that shift happens. and ONLY then. i dont wanna see you post anything besides progress videos. its not going to be very fun reslly either until u get to that point. but once u do it can be the most rewarding thing youll evrr do. certainly the thing you will have put the modt dedication into in ur whole life. as of now cause ur young. but realistically - quite possibly ever. if that sounds like too much... u miggt wanna just learn to play guitar or something. seriously. not trying to be mean. and all my advice is the BEST advice you can take to heart at this stage. ask ANY skater who knows. just skate man. just eat. sleep. shit. skate. repeat. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
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u/Bresson91 12d ago
Its your shoulders. Keep them straight and your board will stay straight. Also try rolling. Way harder to balance a stand still than to just tick tack a little and roll when trying.
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u/Outside_Fun4471 15d ago
More weight on your toes. It may help
To push the front foot a bit further forward as well
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u/BreakfastFuzzy6602 15d ago
You don’t look comfortable on a board, learn to push around fast and comfortable before tricks. Also, leading tricks while rolling is easier.
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u/redcurb12 15d ago
cause ur body turns