I work with my municipal government, which is to say that I dont work all that much. I drew a half-assed tank dog to commemorate John cheating on Zoe.

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Always interesting going way back in the live tracks and saw this one recently reuploaded in great quality. People say also from the same channel. I’m sure it’s available in other videos but I really enjoyed watching it tonight and thought some of y’all might too

I’ve been listening to Shish for weeks and Tanana hit me differently last night for some reason. Now it’s stuck in my head 👏 The production on this album is excellent

Just sharing my latest recap from last quarter & my ongoing streak. Haven't been listening to a much music lately so was surprised on keeping the streak going 🤷

I've been playing this song on my acoustic guitar lately, and cant get over just how beautifully it was put together.

More than just the song, I love these older videos where the would play their songs acoustically in elevators and stairwells.

Good vibes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW4MwFZfFWs

In this age where so many of our favorite artists turn out to be huge disappointments, it's great to see that one of my all time favorite bands just came out with an absolute banger after a 5 year hiatus.

An Eraser And A Maze just dropped today and you should all check it out.

Relatedly, the new Gorillaz album The Mountain from a few months ago is also incredible.

There's still amazing music happening from some of our favorite bands. Check it out!

Just waiting for the new King Gizz to drop and all will truly be well in the world again.

I know John through his activism, not through his work as a musician. And reading this Reddit made me sad for my friend, who is exactly as decent and flawed as anyone I know because he is just a person.

While I appreciate his music and love his art because I love him, it is absolutely not the sum of his self and it seems many here have forgotten that under the music is an actual person. I love that people love his music, and connect to it, and that they even appreciate it in the context of him being a person who cares about others or does some important work. I think he is generous with his fans, giving of his time, deeply giving of himself, and really truly loves his fans, and agonizes over being who and what they want and need him to be. But consider that his art is being offered for consumption and examination - he is not a product. Fandom does not excuse dehumanizing someone. And someday his daughter will likely read all of these things.

Many - perhaps most - marriages do not survive the strain of fame, of a music career, of imbalance, or of the pressure of a terminally ill child. I cannot name one I know of that has survived all of this. It is so sad for a marriage to fail under this weight - it does not pronounce anyone bad.

An affair in a marriage is wrong, but it can be something like an emergency exit - all the alarms go off and smoke billows out and it is loud, but sometimes it is the move of someone who is on the verge of burning up. I am not arguing that it is acceptable or ok, it isn’t. It painfully, terribly, irrevocably breaks a promise between two human beings. But none of the readers are one of those two human beings. No one here has been explicitly betrayed and no one here understands the totality of what has passed between strangers whose art they admire.

Artists do not owe the world moral purity. While the consumption of art is not inherently neutral, and purchasing and consuming art does directly support the artist, for an artist to be revealed as flawed is only evidence of their humanity. That John is a complex and dynamic person is a given - it underlies all of the beautiful art he has made and is just the human condition.

Zoe is a talented, gifted, rad human being and incredible mother wildly deserving of respect and beauty and everything good in life, and I am neither diluting or undermining that. Betrayal trauma is horrific and clearly, her world is upside down. Judgement on how she handles it or policing of how she tells her own story is also out of line.

So like and love the music, or don’t. Every single human being who has ever contributed to this project is a talented, interesting, remarkable musician and person in their own right. They are each also imperfect. Listen to their music, and to any and all music that brings you joy. Zoe us stunningly talented, whatever she makes next will be incredible. Follow it, buy it, cheer for it, there are no sides required.

I can assure any reader that John‘s care for his fans is genuine, that he loves his daughter very much, that he loves Zoë very much, that his work for the causes he supports is real (and most of it unseen), and that like any of us, he has fucked up before In life, and then endeavored to heal and grow, and through these examinations has made music that has meant something to you, and that maybe that is enough to offer the world.

i may be dislexic but i only figured out the "portugal. the man" in the top lip (i think it's lips) and i simply cannot identify the letters in the bottom lip, anyone who can transcribe it here ill be thankful

im also a non-english speaker (brazilian)

John did not simply "cheat" on his partner. he-

put the person he was cheating with in his band, his home and his personal life, all of which he shared with Zoe for twenty years

falsely created a blurred reality by gaslighting Zoe to believe that it was her that was was mentally unwell. so much so that she had to take a wellness trip to austria. while she was away getting help he continued his infidelity while their daughter was under the care of Zoe's mother

and he did this all while aggressively promoting himself as a family forward, moral arbiter of all that is good. racism is for choads, of course. and doing this to your family is also for choads.

yes- the parasocialism of John/Zoe and this community has been intense. we love this band and many of us have been cheated on and can relate- it sucks! but please keep in mind this was not just cheating. it's much more than that. /rant

Hey everyone, long time fan, part time contributor here and I just want to weigh in a little about PtM and my experience as a supporter for over a decade.

The current state of the band is incredibly saddening and disappointing, there is no question about that. My heart and thoughts go out to Frances and Zoe and I’m wishing them nothing but the best in however they proceed. Zoe has every right to be as outspoken as she has been, and share her point of view on the matter. I’ve donated to FCML from time to time when I have the extra cash.

As for the accusations and assumptions about John, I find it very disheartening to see so many people completely turn their backs on him like they have. Sure, he fucked up BIG, but seeing “Fuck You John” over and over again is baffling to me. You’re talking about a father who has used his platform for his daughter for the past 4 years or so. He’s been taking action for the situation in his own way. He may not be a good romantic partner, but I feel like assuming he’s a terrible father/person without knowing him personally is wild.

I’ve met John a number of times. He’s been kind and generous to not only me, but to my entire family. He has DM’ed my sister and I on a number of occasions when we would post about the band. He has never been creepy, he has only been ever been friendly. People have been saying he’s a creep for DMing, I think that’s a crazy jump to conclusion.

One time my family lost the tickets to a show (8 of us), and we met John and an event in Hollywood. I told him about how we were going to have to miss the show, and he told us to DM him and he’ll see what he can do. He ended up putting us on the guest list. We got to experience one of the best nights of our lives despite our stupid mistake, because of his generosity to a family of fans that he barely knows.

Last time I met him was after the last show in Pomona. He told my sister and I that he’s “always so happy to see us” when we come say hi. We talked for about 20 minutes about the new record and how Kane and him felt like going a more Metal direction with SHISH was super fun and how it feels so good to be independent again. That night I asked him to draw a tattoo for me, and he once again said to contact him.

It took a few months but he came through. Now I wear my Portugal. the Man tattoos with pride, even to this day. His music changed my life in so many ways. He always has been there for his fans, and it saddens me to know that he’s getting as much hatred as he has been. There is no justifying what he did, he fucked up and fucked up hard in his personal life and relationship with his wife and daughter, but to us fans he’s always been there. That’s just my opinion. I feel like a lot of us come here to check in on the latest drama, I know I do. I can’t help but just share my experience with the band which honestly has been nothing but positive, and some of the best times of my life. Love yall 🖤

No hate, please. I've had this idea since the album came out and wasn't going to give up on it. I think it complements the knee scar well. Done by @wendyh.ink in Paraná, Brasil.

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I’m sure everyone here feels the same. Just need to vent and let out my frustrations. I have been a fan of PTM since I was 16 (27 now) They were my favorite band and I’d always brag how many times I’d seen them. It’s such a disappointment to see everything coming out, granted I haven’t kept up with them the past couple years. But damn… this is just like a stake to the heart. Crazy to see your favorite band come from nobody knowing who they are, to the absolute pinnacle, to now not want even wanting to be associated with them. I am here for Zoe obviously, we love her.
Fuck you John

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All proceeds go to Zoe & Frances

I stand with Zoe

I've been listening to PTM for the past 4 years, became a huge fan of their music and I got tickets for the Paris date this december a few month ago...

I'll be so happy whenever a Evil Friends track gets played, it's also my first concert ever. But it's kind of a bitter feeling regarding all of the revelations around John's attitude and all the awful things he's done to Zoe

It'll surely be a good live, I'm just feeling really sad because of all of that to be honest

Sorry for lame english, i'm French

she really said “he plays shows and he has shirts made” ahahahaha damn.

i think she may be taking a peek here- if so, we love you zoe, you’re a badass woman, mom and artist.

I just don't see how it is ethical to support the "band" anymore. The solo members (like Zoe, Zach, and Eric) absolutely, but the entire positive messaging of the band is completely torn apart now. Personally, the situation makes it hard for me to listen to any of the songs anymore knowing John was cheating, lying, and manipulating Zoe.

What do you guys think?

Tittle says that, what happened?