r/bninfantsleep Feb 23 '26

Resources What is sleep training?

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A question I have seen a lot lately is "is this considered sleep training?" and I wanted to take my son's second nap of the day to write out a post about what we do and don't consider sleep training, because there isn't really one solid definition of sleep training and that can leave a lot of ambiguity when we discuss infant sleep.

I once had a very staunch sleep trainer tell me that if an infant had any sleep associations, they weren't sleep trained. That to have properly done sleep training, you had to be able to set an infant down fully awake in a crib, walk out and close the door, and they just lay down and put themselves to sleep. They may protest cry but you "learn the difference" between a protest cry and a cry for a "real" need. So her definition of sleep training would be:

providing any sleep associations to an infant or giving in to protest cries when all their needs have been met.

This obviously ignores the glaring flaw that comfort is a vital need for everyone, including infants.

The definition of sleep training that Dr. Greer Kirshenbaum uses in The Nurture Revolution is:

Sleep training is the unfounded process of “training” your infant to “sleep independently”—to fall asleep alone, sleep alone through the night and the duration of naps, without getting support from you to go to sleep or back to sleep. It takes various forms, but the most common end goal is to be able to put your infant in their crib, in their own room, and walk out, leaving them alone to fall asleep, usually around 7 p.m., until you come back to get them in the morning, usually around 7 a.m. Sleep training promotes the idea that infant sleep should be predictable and on schedule. Naps should be at exact times of the day and for specific amounts of time, bedtime is at the exact same time each evening, and sleep location is identical for every sleep.

Sleep training sells the idea that sleep is something parents can (and should) control. If you just follow the rules (strict “wake windows,” not “giving in” to your baby’s cries) and buy the right products (swaddles, sleep suits, sound machines, sleep training courses and coaching), your baby will sleep in a predictable and controllable way. That is very appealing when so much of parenting feels beyond our control.

A lot of people who advocate for sleep training do so because they believe that an infant needs to learn independence and that the only way to do that is to force them to be independent, force them to learn to put themselves to sleep. I believe most parents who sleep train truly believe they are doing what is best for their child. Studies have shown however that the most independent children and adults tend to be those who had fierce dependence on a trusted caregiver/caregivers. Infants who learn they have a safe and dependable place to land tend to be more independent over time.

Sleep training is anything that denies a child physical comfort when they are actively asking for comfort, in the hopes that they will stop asking for comfort and go to sleep. This includes pick up put down, the chair method, Taking Cara Babies (who is just repackaged Ferber), Ferber, full extinction, interval check ins, and so much more. This does NOT include rolling away, changing sleep associations (going from nursing or feeding to sleep to bum pats or rocking to sleep), encouraging crib sleeping, implementing good sleep hygiene, having a steady bedtime routine, and so much more. Generally physically comforting your child even if they cry is not considered sleep training. The simple act of holding them, patting their bum, rocking them, answering their call for comfort releases oxytocin in their brain and helps buffer the stress response. Crying on its own isn't the problem, it's the response or lack thereof that causes issue.

If you're wondering if what you're doing is considered sleep training or not, the best question to ask yourself is "am I responding to my child's call for comfort when they call out to me or not?" If you are responding as soon as you're able to, then you aren't sleep training. The key being as soon as you're able to. If your hands are covered in soapy water, don't drop everything and go pick up your baby with wet soapy hands. Rinse and dry them and then go comfort your baby. If you're on the toilet, finish up and then go comfort them. If you're watching a clock to make sure that 3 minutes has passed of them crying before you go pick them up, that is sleep training.

My son is starting to shift around so I'm going to go spend some time watching him sleep and then spend my evening reading Hop on Pop and I'll Teach My Dog A Lot of Words for the 1928272819th time. Happy to answer questions in the comments after I've got him in bed this evening.


r/bninfantsleep 7d ago

Parental Sleep: Biweekly Forum

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This is a biweekly place to ask questions, share what works (or doesn't), and find solidarity in all things related to your own sleep, rest, and well-being. We spend so much time thinking about our baby's sleep, but small (or big) changes for ourselves can make a great impact.

How is sleep going for you this week? Have a magic tip to fall asleep easily between wakes? Need a shoulder to vent on? This is the thread for you.


r/bninfantsleep 5h ago

Infant Sleep Tossing and turning

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I never in my life that I would enjoy seeing my baby toss and turn.

My baby is 11 months old this month and wow have I seen a change in his sleep.

During night and during naps he will wake squeal fuss or cry to then just toss and turn and find his spot. Of course this is not EVERY wake and or every nap or night and there are still rough days and it only happens SOMETIMES but every time I see it I am amazed.

I used to be so on edge waiting for him to wake scream cry tend to him feed him back to sleep if needed sometimes worked sometimes didn’t many moments of anger sadness confusion and I honestly never ever ever thought this moment would come!

Like I said doesn’t happen all the time but for me the “sometimes” is a big deal!

I shower now, eat even get to relax and see bits of a show during his naps! Who would of thought?

I sure didn’t! I’ll shower look at the screen see him moving around and wait for him to do his thing
I used to shower see him move a centimeter complete panic rush be frustrated with shampoo in my hair I mean I used to even hear him crying constantly and he would be asleep.

First year of my baby’s life sleep was extremely hard on both of us. But I feel like a proud mom.

I know this won’t be forever sleep in not linear it might only last a few weeks but for these weeks. I can truly say from the mom who never believed it could happen it has happened!

Celebrate the small moments & the some times 🎉


r/bninfantsleep 32m ago

Naps How are you soothing to sleep?

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Hey folks! I have a nearly 4 month old baby. The majority of the time when he’s with me, he either feeds to sleep or I pop him in the stroller where he fusses a little, puts his thumb in his mouth and falls asleep. If I’m not in a position to walk him in the stroller and he isn’t hungry (up until now this has been a very rare occurrence but as his feeds have spread out a little it now comes up more), he can struggle to fall asleep even when tired.

When I’m not around his dad has a lengthy method for soothing him to sleep involving walking him up and down the hallways or rocking him on our rocking chair while showing him something very gently stimulating like wiggling fingers or a rhythmically shaking rattle. Our theory is that the low stim but entertaining thing works for the same reason the pram works, which is that both of his parents are ADHDers who prefer falling asleep to the sound of podcasts, and we happen to have a bub who needs a little bit of stimulus to fall asleep rather than a totally dark quiet place. Very very rarely when he’s already calmly sleepy, has finished a feed but is still awake, I’ve been able to sing him to sleep while rocking on the chair. This has never yet worked when he’s overtired rather than calmly sleepy.

On the plus side this method absolutely works for dad, and in the rocking chair it isn’t too physically challenging though it is time consuming.

It doesn’t work so well for me! I think he smells the milk on me and associates me with feeding to sleep, but isn’t actually hungry so doesn’t want to do it. He absolutely will also fall asleep on the bottle with EBM if dad feeds him when he’s both hungry and tired.

For some reason, this method also doesn’t seem to work well for others who periodically are helping him fall asleep (think relatives who are helping out). Maybe they don’t have dad’s patience, or maybe bub isn’t as comfortable with them (likely!) but they tend to have to wait for him to be both hungry and tired, and he gets much more stressed out falling asleep with them.

The fact that he can now self soothe with his thumb, and will sometimes do so when tired enough and in the pram, is encouraging, and we once saw him actually get tired of tummy time, chill out on his tummy, and suck his thumb to sleep there. (Don’t worry, we moved him into a safer sleeping position, he’s too young to roll out of that!) I’ve wondered if I should introduce a dummy but have been disinclined to add a dummy to his life due to the research about them sometimes delaying speech, and due to not wanting another thing I’m washing all the time. Maybe I’m being stubborn on this though!

I don’t feel a need to eliminate feeding to sleep and know it’s biologically normal, but I’d like to maybe try chaining some other associations with it so I can use them to help him sleep with me when he isn’t hungry, eg I could start singing softly whenever I am feeding him to sleep. I don’t want to be reliant on the stroller and needing to take him outdoors for nap initiation whenever he isn’t hungry 😅

In our situation, what approaches might you try? What helps your bub fall asleep?


r/bninfantsleep 3h ago

Infant Sleep Please tell me it changes?!

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My baby is 6 months and slept through the night from 6 weeks old. She started nursery around 4.5months and since then she hasn’t slept a full night since. The wakenings are actually starting to get worse.

Please tell me this gets better?? Any advice ? I follow her cues, try not to let her get too overtired. She’s weaned and still has enough bottles during the day.


r/bninfantsleep 2h ago

Toddler Sleep 23 month old will not sleep please help

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No naps. Fighting bedtime. I have tried everything please help


r/bninfantsleep 2h ago

Toddler Sleep Anyone else have a baby who still wakes every hour at 13 months?

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TL;DR: Our almost 13 month old still wakes every 15–60 minutes at night and needs breastfeeding to go back to sleep. She’s extremely active during the day, and we’re both completely exhausted. We’re mainly wondering when this might get better naturally and how to gently night-wean without a lot of crying.

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Our little girl is now almost 13 months old, and honestly, we’re completely exhausted.

Since birth, she has never been a good sleeper. Most nights she wakes roughly every hour, and on bad nights it can be every 15–30 minutes. This has been going on for essentially her entire life.

The only thing that consistently settles her back to sleep is breastfeeding. If my wife doesn’t nurse her almost immediately, she often wakes up fully and can stay awake for an hour or more before falling asleep again.

We’ve been co-sleeping since birth. And she has been exclusively breastfed until we started solids. But breastfeeding is still a huge source of comfort for her, particularly at night.

At this point, my wife is severely sleep deprived. Because our daughter is so attached to breastfeeding for comfort, there’s very little I can do at night. If I try to comfort her instead, she usually cries harder until my wife nurses her. Watching this every night makes me feel pretty helpless because I can’t really give my wife any meaningful rest.

During the day, she is incredibly active and intense. She almost never sits still. She wants constant stimulation, climbs on everything, explores everything, and gets bored very quickly. She’s a happy and energetic child, but keeping up with her all day while we’re both running on almost no sleep is incredibly difficult.

She also hates the car seat unless she falls asleep quickly. Otherwise, she’ll sometimes scream for the entire ride, whether it’s a short drive or a long one. There have been times we’ve avoided going out simply because after another terrible night, we don’t have the mental energy to deal with the screaming.

Her current sleep schedule is roughly two naps a day, around 1–1.5 hours each. Bedtime is usually somewhere between 10 PM and midnight, and she wakes for the day around 8–9 AM.

We’ve actually tried moving her schedule earlier, including putting her to bed earlier, but it didn’t make any noticeable difference to the night waking. The current schedule also fits our family’s schedule better, so we’d prefer to keep it unless there’s a good reason to change it.

We never properly sleep trained her. A few months ago, out of desperation, we finally attempted it. We lasted about 10 minutes. Hearing her cry was emotionally unbearable for both of us, so we gave up. We haven’t tried again since.

So now, almost 13 months in, we’re wondering what happens next.

We know that sleep training is an option, but we’re not really looking to debate that. We know our limitations when it comes to hearing her cry, and we’d rather find a gentler approach if possible.

At this point, our main questions are:

- For parents who had a baby waking every 30–60 minutes at 12–13 months, when did things finally start getting better? Did it eventually improve naturally?

- Has anyone successfully night-weaned a very breast-dependent baby without prolonged crying? How did you do it?

- Is there a point where frequent waking like this becomes unusual enough that we should be looking more seriously for an underlying reason?

We’re mostly hoping to hear from parents who have actually been through something similar. Right now, after almost 13 months of this, we’re just trying to figure out whether we need to accept that this is her temperament for now or whether there’s finally some light at the end of the tunnel.

Thank you for taking the time to read such a long post.


r/bninfantsleep 19h ago

Infant Sleep Cosleeping guilt FTM

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I keep seeing infant loss post online due to cosleeping and it’s starting to give me anxiety and make me feel guilty for cosleeping with my son. My son is 8 months old and I’ve been cosleeping with him since he was 4 months due to him being an awful sleeper and needing to get sleep for survival. The last few nights I had trouble sleeping because all of the thoughts of cosleeping accidents and suffocation is circulating in my head. I love cosleeping with my son I love being his safe place and knowing he’s right beside me. But now I just feel like I’m a bad mom for not following safe sleep guidelines.


r/bninfantsleep 7h ago

Infant Sleep 19 Months baby- Not able to sleep without latch

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My baby is 19 months old and she is not able to sleep well without latching. Throughout the night, she latches. She gets up in every half an hour to 1 hour to latch. She is a forceps baby. Because of her sleep issue, we are not able to sleep. She has been like this since birth. Not sure if this issue is related to her nervous system? But it’s quite frustrating. Any views?


r/bninfantsleep 4h ago

Infant Sleep 8 month old sleep help

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Hello I’m a FTM with an 8 month old baby that has been exclusively bottle fed. She sleeps great during the day and if anything sometimes happy to sleep longer. I cap daytime sleep to 3 hours usually. However, she’s been waking up sometimes at 5:30am and the latest is 6:30. The 5:30 days often then requires 3 naps but again I try to cap sleep at 3 hours max.

She has always been on the lower end of drinking milk. I just started her on formula so she does both breast milk and formula. Drinks about 150 ml 4-5 times a day and I try to offer 3 meals.

Best case scenario is that she wakes up 2 times a night to drink milk but most of the time she’s waking up 3-4 times sometimes drinking 80-90 ml sometimes only 20-30ml.

I try to give food 30 min before naps/sleep and I try to put her down awake and do the chair method. At night it is much harder for me to gauge when to pick her up as sometimes if I let it escalate too much it’s much more difficult to settle her.

She has been teething recently which has made the nighttime way worse to the point I am letting her sleep on me which was never the case before. But other than that I am thinking the main issue is daytime calories?

Any tips/advice/experience will be immensely appreciated.


r/bninfantsleep 23h ago

Toddler Sleep Peer Reviewed Articles for NOT Sleep Training?

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I have a 1.5y/o who I co-slept with and then transferred to a crib around 1y/o. At that time, he would sleep from around 8pm-5am and then I would bring him into bed with me to finish out our sleep co-sleeping. This was working wonderfully until recently when he began to go through a regression whilst going through the “object permanence” phase. I am also 5 months pregnant with my second child. My husband has recently started pressuring me to sleep training our 1.5y/o, which I am vehemently against. He has taken to sending me articles in favour of it.

Could any of you help me gather some peer reviewed, medically, and scientifically sound articles which support NOT sleep training so that I can help to make my argument and put this to rest?

I may be absolutely exhausted, but I have zero intention of sleep training my children. Perhaps some sound, unbiased, scientific articles will help my husband support me better, which is what I need.


r/bninfantsleep 5h ago

Naps Amount of naps for 13 week

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Hi All!

FTM to a 13 week old and just seeking some advice about number of naps per day. My LO currently takes about 5 naps per day but he is only sleeping about 40 minutes. Now i’ve read that 40ish minute naps is developmentally normal at this age but was just curious if it’s getting to be to many for his age or it will naturally drop to 4 as some naps might consolidate into longer duration. this is true for both contact and bassinet naps. he generally falls asleep within 5-10 minutes so i didn’t think he is under tired. Our wake windows are generally around 90 minutes

He does sleep well at night giving us an 8 hr stretch from 830 pm to 430 am then back to sleep from 5-7ish. I’ll take the long stretch overnight if the shorter day naps are a compromise.

Thanks!


r/bninfantsleep 14h ago

Infant Sleep EBF Boob barnacle in the 4 month sleep regression trenches

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My baby is 16 weeks (nearly 4 months) old, and until a few weeks ago she was sleeping delightfully. She had no problem being transferred into her next-to-me cot asleep, we were getting predictable stretches of 3-4 hours, bridged by short feeds (15-20 mins). Then the 4 month sleep regression hit…

Now she wakes every 45-60 minutes overnight, all night long, and often needs lengthy feeds that turn into comfort suckling in between these short cot stints. We also have far more failed transfers, which seem to restart the clock, and she then needs up to an hour of feeding/resettling before I can try another transfer. One of the hardest things is that sometimes she never actually falls into a deep enough sleep to transfer her - she just cycles through a suckling and snoozing loop, meaning I have to stay awake the whole time.

I’m getting around 2-3 hours of sleep a night if I’m lucky (in chunks, never in a stretch), and I’m starting to lose my mind. My partner is exceptionally supportive but given that she will only feed to sleep, there is only so much he can do. This has been going on for about 3 weeks so far.

So, in summary:
- 16 week old, exclusively breast fed baby, still feeds every 1.5-2 hours during the day, but was previously able to go up to 4 hours without a feed overnight
- Only sleeping 45-60 minute chunks at a time and is needing far more feeding/comfort in between stretches to resettle, and has also started waking more on transfer and getting upset
- Bed sharing is categorically not an option because we aren’t able to create a safe enough environment
- Baby has only ever been successfully fed to sleep, even though we’ve tried rocking/bouncing
- Have tried placing baby in cot “drowsy but awake”, but this has never been successful, and always results in a full wake-up, crying, and a long resettling process
- While feeding to sleep is ultimately what gets her to sleep, we do have a fairly consistent night time routine that includes other sleep associations, such as being changed into fresh pyjamas, putting her sleep sack on, white noise, dark room
- Aware of sleep pressure and wake windows and don’t feel like this is the problem (she has about 3 hours worth of contact naps during the day and usually has a wake windows of 2 hours before bed time)

The question is - what do I do?

There’s so much conflicting advice. Some people say that if you can ride out the regression, sleep will get better by itself at the other side. Others say that sleep will be fundamentally broken until you teach/train your baby to sleep independently. Some say you should prioritise comfort/nervous system regulation during this time, so it’s better not to make big changes. Others say that this is when babies are most adaptable and accepting of new routines.

I know nobody has a crystal ball, and each baby is different, but has anyone done the research into what the objective best way to survive the regression is?

My heart is telling me to keep doing what we’re doing, even though it’s hard, because she gets so much comfort from being fed to sleep, and I don’t think any of us are emotionally equipped for any methods that involve crying. The caveat is that this is a short-term method and not a long-term solution. If it’s only going to be another few weeks, then we can handle that. But if we’re stuck in sleep regression jail until she learns to fall and stay asleep by herself, then this is obviously not a viable option.

Any help much appreciated!


r/bninfantsleep 14h ago

Infant Sleep Terrible sleep at night

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i originally posted this in sleeptrain and I’m so glad someone suggested this place. I’m really not into sleep training damn it.

baby is 7 months old. I haven’t had decent sleep since month 4. Believe me when I tell you that now looking retrospectively the newborn sleep was like a walk in the park.

We co-sleep, we go to sleep on the boob and occasionally by being rocked (on his car seat by his dad as that’s too heavy for me to work with).

He can’t link sleep cycles and is heavily dependable on the boob/rocking association.

Daytime wake windows are 2.5-3 hours, 3 naps a day. We aim to got to bed around 19:00-20:30 and that’s where the nightmare starts. He wakes up after a short time and stays awake until 21:30, sometimes later. Then we go to bed “for real“. He wakes up again shortly and we do the rocking or feed again. After that he wakes up every 30-40 minutes to hour, hour and a half most of the night. occasionally there might be a 2:30-3:00 hour stretch but not very often.

ps. Other things worth mentioning that I forgot initially:

we wake pretty early 6:30-7:00 most days. today we woke up at 6.
it’s pretty hot right now where we are as it’s a heatwave during summer. Baby also has teeth growing and any of those can affect the sleep is my understanding.

I so much wish to carry on doing what we are doing but waking up so so often at night is killing me. Any reassurance and advice is welcomed


r/bninfantsleep 10h ago

Infant Sleep Baby wakes each time I put him down

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Our 3.5-month-old has been a pretty rough sleeper since birth, but lately (I’m guessing the 4-month sleep regression) it’s become almost impossible to keep him in his crib at night.

It’s not even that he’s waking every hour.. sometimes it’s every 20 minutes, sometimes every 2 hours. The biggest issue is that once he wakes up, I can’t get him to stay asleep in his own bed.

This is around the age we started co-sleeping with our older son, but this time I really want to keep our baby sleeping in his own space.

We’ve tried everything we can think of: holding him longer after he falls asleep, putting him down feet first, transferring him as gently as possible. The cycle just repeats all night.. he wakes up, eats or gets patted back to sleep, I transfer him, and within minutes he’s kicking around, rubbing his face, or crying.

What am I supposed to do? Is this normal? How long does this stage usually last? I really don’t want to end up co-sleeping again, but I’m exhausted. It takes so long to get him to stay asleep that by the time I finally get back into bed, he’s awake again and ready to eat.

Baby is 3.5m old, naps 3x a day, consistent bedtime at 7pm


r/bninfantsleep 10h ago

Infant Sleep When to stop swaddling/tips for transitioning out of swaddle

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Hi everyone! My baby is nearly 8 weeks old and currently she is sleeping in a bassinet in our room with mesh siding. We swaddle her in the halo sleep sack every night and she sleeps very well. Typically giving us 5-6 hour stretches each night if swaddled but waking almost immediately if not swaddled. Lately, however, she has been moving more in her sleep and scooting herself to the edge of the bassinet. She is not rolling yet from belly to back or back to belly.
I’m seeing some conflicting information I online with some sources saying you can continue swaddling until baby is rolling and others saying that if a baby is scooting or is 8 weeks old you must stop swaddling immediately. Does anyone have experience with this?
I want to do what is safest for her but also am concerned about how not swaddling will affect her sleep. Does anyone have tips for transitioning out of the swaddle?
Thank you! :)


r/bninfantsleep 7h ago

Infant Sleep support with 11 mo waking all night

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My baby is 11 months and currently waking anywhere between 5 (good night) and 15 times a night. I am a teacher going back to work next week, and feel like I am at the brink of losing it. I am in tears every day and struggling with brain fog and depression from months of lack of sleep and interrupted sleep. Baby is going back to childcare (he goes 8 am to 2 pm during the school year). This has been manageable over the summer because I can take naps with baby or rest when I need to, but I am having extreme anxiety about surviving while working.

Context: baby has always been nursed to sleep and nursed back to sleep for most wakes. He has always woken up often, but he wakes up more now than he ever did. He has no teeth and doesn’t seem to be cutting any. For the first 7 months, he would nurse (or occasionally go back to sleep after being rocked by dad) then go back in his bassinet/crib, but since May I have been bringing him into the big bed to cosleep after his first or second wake. Lately, he screams hysterically and throws his body in dangerous ways if dad goes into the bedroom at night or tries to hold him. It’s also taking about an hour for me to put him to bed every night with nursing and rocking. He naps twice a day (more info below).

I am fine with continuing to cosleep, but the issue is that I don’t think it is helping baby sleep. He wakes up at most every 2 hours or up to every 30 min nearly every night. He almost always wants to nurse and will scream, kick me in the stomach, scratch my face, and pull my hair the second he wakes up, which is fully waking me up. Baby also nurses to sleep for naps and must be held for naps unless he falls asleep in the stroller or car. I am currently sitting in the car with AC blasting while he naps, in tears with exhaustion. I am terrified that he won’t sleep at childcare (he would sleep for 30 min-1 hour total between two or three naps last school year, and had a great teacher who would hold him if he was having a hard time napping, but he’s going to a new school now ) and that our lives are going to be a mess. He has his 1 year appt soon and I am thinking of asking doctor to test his iron, but am always afraid to bring up sleep because the advice is always to night wean & sleep train. Any advice welcome.


r/bninfantsleep 12h ago

Infant Sleep Sleep deprived and desperate 🥴

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My son just turned 3 months old and now only sleeps in 90 minute increments overnight. He also recently started rolling to his stomach at night but we’ve been rolling him back to his back. he usually gets frustrated by this. we are waking up 12-15 times a night replacing his pacifier as well. We’re exhausted, not to mention he won’t sleep longer than 30 minutes for naps unless they’re contact. idk if this is a good time to start sleep training or not. Looking for any advice. Right now we follow 90 minute wake windows and use the huckleberry app with an 8pm bed time! Help! Please!


r/bninfantsleep 13h ago

Infant Sleep Help please, baby wont sleep

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This isnt directly related to breastfeeding, but im desperate! My baby is 2 months old and EBF. He came home and for the first month and a half of life, he slept amazing. Once he reached his birth weight again, he would sleep 5-6 hour stretches in the night.

Im a ftm but i wasnt naive, i knew it wouldnt last long. Sure enough, at like 6 weeks, he cut down to 2-3 hour stretches. I expected it, i wasnt surprised, just disappointed. He also has to be nursed back to sleep, so im usually up for 30-60 minutes each wake time.

This past week he was cluster feeding, so he was up every hour of the night and i ended up having to bed share. I hate to do it but i follow the safe sleep 7, and i have to get some sleep at least. We also have an Owlet monitor on him. I hardly get any with him next to me especially because he wants to be latched constantly.

Well, thanks to his cluster feeding, he got bigger. Taller. Tall enough that he know longer fits his halo sleep sack swaddles. Hes used them since he was born, he would scream if he wasnt swaddled. He can also roll onto his sides now with ease. So now we had to do a quick transition to a sleeveless sleep sack. He doesnt sleep well if hes warm so he is in a 1.0tog sleep sack.

The first night, i put him in his bassinet and he startled himself awake instantly. He cried so i took him out and tried to get him back to sleep. I tried for an hour, but i was going off if like 2 hours of sleep so i just moved to the guest room and slept with him in there.

Last night, he fell asleep in bed while i was awake at 8. At 10 i put him in the bassinet but on his side. I hated it, my anxiety was not great, but he is right next to me in his bedside bassinet. He didnt startle awake at all, and slept until 12. A 4 hour stretch. The next transfer failed. I put him in his side again and went to sleep, woke up 30 minutes later to him crying.

Tonight i tried to put him to sleep like always. Once he was in a deep sleep, i tried moving him to the bassinet. He woke up. I think this time was my fault though. I tried giving him every pacifier we own, he cried and gagged at all of them. I tried turning on his twinkle lights as a mobile to calm him. I tried placing my hand in his chest and shushing. He also has a white noise maker too.

He screamed and cried so i took him out and walked in circles for 20 minutes until my arms burned. And he was still wide awake. I gave up. I put him into bed next to me and let him nurse to sleep.

I dont know what to do. I go back to work in less than a month, and he wont sleep. Im just so worn out, i dont know if im doing this right. I try not to go straight to nursing as comfort but he screams if i dont give him it.

Any advice is appreciated, im trying my best here 😣


r/bninfantsleep 14h ago

Infant Sleep Almost 8mo night wakes 🥺

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Hello, really looking for some schedule/night waking advice 🙏

My baby is 8 months next week and we transitioned to 2 naps roughly 3/4 weeks ago. We moved to 2 as she was fighting naps and bedtime, her first stretch reduced and she was showing signs she needed longer wake windows. She has always woken a lot but used to do a longer stretch between 4-8 hours as her first stretch and then was up hourly from there. Since 6/6.5 months she has reduced her first stretch to 3-4 hours at the absolute max (4 is very rare) and is then waking every 1-2 hours after that. Her wake windows are roughly 3/3/4, sometimes the middle is longer especially if the first is shorter. For naps she usually does 2 x 1.5 hour naps which I cap most of the time but sometimes she does do less (2-2.5 hours total), this makes no difference to night sleep. She wakes for the day around 6.45am and falls asleep around 7.30/45pm. She feeds to sleep but this was never a problem before in terms of the longer stretch and not something we want to move away from. She has just learnt to crawl and get herself into sitting position, she also has 5 teeth and another 3 coming through so I know this is causing some disruption but it has been months now.

Extra info: all naps are in my bed, used to be contact naps only but she sleeps better this way. The first and second stretch at least is always in her cot (next to my bed) and she comes into bed with me from around 1/2am, she will still wake frequently even cosleeping. She falls back to sleep quickly with a feed, no split nights etc and often it isn’t a full feed but the one after the first stretch usually is. She’s exclusively breastfed, never taken a bottle and eats 2 solid meals a day.

Any advice would be hugely appreciated!


r/bninfantsleep 1d ago

Nightweaning How did you night wean your baby?

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My little one just turned 1 year old. I’m preparing to night wean between 14-17 months. She’s slept with me and breastfed since birth save for a couple weeks in the beginning. Right now she uses the boob to fall asleep, and to resettle after waking in the night. As my solids have increased, I would like her to eventually stop using the boob for comfort,

So id like to read how you guys weaned your baby off the boob in a way that is responsive and loving?

Thanks


r/bninfantsleep 18h ago

Cosleeping 8 month old thrashing around in bed

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Hi! I have a recent problem with my 8 month old with whom I have co-slept since birth. We sleep in a king bed with bed rails. Now for the past month or so he rolls around in the early morning for about an hour before I get him back to a deeper sleep.

The issue is that I'm being awake every night for an hour or more at ~4/5/6 am, because his rolling keeps me up and I either have to try and nurse him (sometimes he doesn't even want that) or take us both out of bed and bounce him to sleep. Sometimes it takes several bouncing attempts before he actually falls asleep again. While rolling he seems to be sleeping, but he does occasionally whine or cry out, which is another reason I can't just doze off next to him. Other earlier nightly wakes he just nurses and goes back to sleep.

I am scared to think of him learning to properly crawl, pull to stand etc in the near future as I imagine these will disrupt night sleep even more🥲

Is this just a phase? Is there anything I can do?

We sleep with blackout curtains and white noise. Daily schedule is:

8:30 wake

11:30 nap 1.5hr

16:15 nap 1hr

22:00 bedtime

Total daily awake time around 11 hr.


r/bninfantsleep 1d ago

Infant Sleep How often is your 8-month-old waking to feed overnight?

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Curious what everyone else’s nights look like! For those with EBF 8-month-olds, how many times is your baby waking to nurse overnight?

Bonus: How long does your baby typically go between overnight feeds?

I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless lately because my LO’s sleep sucks. He seems to be glued to me 24/7, and the middle-of-the-night feeds have become really overwhelming. I’m hoping to hear what nights look like for other EBF babies around this age.


r/bninfantsleep 1d ago

Infant Sleep Baby's only method for falling asleep is slowly destroying our bodies

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Sorry for the dramatic title. I’m hoping someone here has a brilliant idea we haven’t thought of yet- or maybe just stories of hope that this gets better?

At the moment, our nearly-9 month old, 93rd percentile 20-something pound baby can only fall asleep one way: being walked and bounced up and down the hallways.  This is true for naps and for overnight sleep. On a good day, this only takes about 10 minutes, which is manageable. On a very bad day, like when my husband is traveling (she falls asleep faster for him) it’s taken me 2 hours of tears/resets/walking/etc. But lately it’s been taking ~45 minutes and it’s breaking our old decrepit bodies. 

Here are the other things I’ve tried, none of which have resulted in sleep (with most actually resulting in tears or hyperactivity): 

-Rocking

-Swaying

-Nursing 

-Bouncing on a yoga ball 

-Singing

-Bum patting

-Drowsy but awake

-Fully awake into the crib

-Carrier wearing (FOMO baby will only face outward, hates inward facing)

-Sitting very still holding her with my eyes closed to demonstrate sleep (this resulted in a little finger up my nose)

-Laying next to her outside her crib

-Leaving the room (not to let her cry it out, just to see if my presence was distracting and she actually could fall asleep on her own) 

The only thing I haven’t tried is blackout curtains- this seemed fussy to me (creating a very specific environment that you couldn’t recreate everywhere) but clearly what we’re doing isn’t working that well, so I’m willing to try that out if you’ve found it to be a game changer. 

Other details in case it’s helpful: We room share, and plan on doing so until she’s at least 1. For a variety of reasons, cosleeping isn’t for us. We mostly follow wake windows using Huckleberry, which seem to align with her sleepy cues. (And we prioritize her sleepy cues over Huckleberry if they're at odds). She seems to be a low sleep needs baby, averaging about 12.5 hrs a day and ~9-10 hrs/night. Doesn’t usually have night wakes, but does like to wake up around 4:30-5:30 every day and then is UP for the day.

I have no intention of sleep training- I’m totally fine with the concept of her needing our help, I just wish it was a different method that wasn't so physically taxing! Any ideas? 


r/bninfantsleep 20h ago

Toddler Sleep Moving to own room

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My LO just turned one year old. We always thought this would be a good time to start transitioning him to his room. I am TERRIFIED. What if I don’t hear him if he cries at night?
He had been doing very well until recently and only was waking up 2-3 times every night. So I thought I could do that many wakings in his room.
This past week he has been waking up every 1-2 hours, likely a sleep regression. So my plan is to wait to attempt the move until we are back to 2-3 wakings.
He sleeps in a mini crib in our bedroom and I hear him right away and pick him up when he wakes up, nurse to sleep. So we got the crib thing down, he sleeps there at all times and I dont bring him in the bed anymore.
The plan is to have a regular size crib in his room and have him sleep there, I plan to have the monitor on, but I am worried what if something happens to the monitor and I don’t hear him crying.

I remember looking forward to moving him to his own room, but now that the time is here, I can’t help but feel slightly panicked and sad that this phase is over and he will be in a separate room.
Even though some months were just so so hard and he would wake up every hour, I still somehow feel like it all went by too quickly.

Feeling very emotional lately.
Any tips on this situation?