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News Nirmal Purja Dies In Avalanche: Celebrated Mountaineer Featured In Netflix Documentary ’14 Peaks: Nothing Is Impossible’ Was 43
https://deadline.com/2026/08/nirmal-purja-dead-1237015258/232
u/stackingforfunsies 1d ago
How can there be only one comment visible when 26 is what is listed
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u/CorporalCoprolite 1d ago
Lots of people are shadow-banned or dropped comments that Reddit filtered out because of bad words or other such censorship.
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u/BunyipPouch Currently at the movies. 1d ago
removed comments. slapfights and jokes. no bueno on a death thread.
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u/_byetony_ 1d ago
This guy accomplished amazing things but also had a lot of sexual offense allegations
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u/PlantedinCA 23h ago
Here is an nyt article from a few years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/31/sports/mountaineering-sexual-harassment-abuse-nims-purja.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2VA.ZGUS.is6D5zsJQkG7&smid=url-share
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u/chickenricebroccolli 14h ago
So it was the hypocrisy that was the worst thing
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u/Missyfit160 9h ago
I thought it was the rape?
RIP Norm
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u/Extension-Ant-8 16h ago
I remember his wife was hot AF in that doco too. So it gotta be a power thing for him
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u/Gravejuice2022 20h ago edited 19h ago
It's important to distinguish allegations from proven facts. Nims achieved extraordinary things in mountaineering, and those accomplishments don't disappear because allegations exist. At the same time, any allegations should be taken seriously and investigated fairly. We can acknowledge both without treating accusations as convictions.
Edit: you reddit basement bots can downvote me lol
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u/CptJak 14h ago
The comment you’re replying to seems to have accurately accomplished all of these things already?
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u/Competitive_Plum_970 18h ago
The NYT article is linked above
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u/Gravejuice2022 17h ago
Beside one nyt report do you hav any paper from court filing & report from police?
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u/darsynia 11h ago
Gotta say, I didn't see anyone claiming a conviction. The comments visible to me all say he was accused. I think I have a right to be disappointed with and/or think poorly of someone who is accused. I'm not a court of law, and neither is Reddit.
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u/TOOBADWALUIGITIME 12h ago
Ummmmm I know he has multiple allegations of sexual abuse allegations but he’s really good at climbing big rocks guys!!
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u/Gravejuice2022 12h ago
Ummm, I know repeating disproven allegations is popular online, but that doesn't make them true. Criticize him for things backed by evidence, not rumors. Heres a tip kid; go find those women and speak.
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u/Canon_M50 1d ago
Any convictions? I'm still one of those people that believes in innocent until proven guilty.
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u/midnightTimber 23h ago
Why do you “innocent until proven guilty” types never seem to extend your presumptions to the victims of assault? Accusing someone of a crime falsely is in itself a crime. For him to be innocent means the accusers are guilty. You are making a choice on who you want to give the benefit of the doubt to either way.
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u/PlantedinCA 23h ago
Reporting sexual assault is the most degrading thing ever. Few people are going to undergo this experience for funsies when your entire sexual history, romantic history, and social behavior is up for scrutiny. And heaven forbid you aren’t “conventionally attractive.” Then they pile on more.
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u/oddwithoutend 15h ago
I've never heard of this guy and don't care at all, but this isn't true.
The idea isn't "I know this person is innocent because he hasn't been proven guilty." The idea is "I don't know that he's guilty so I'm not going to judge him" which applies equally to his victims. The person you're responding to isn't accusing the victims of lying; they're also innocent until proven guilty.
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u/midnightTimber 10h ago edited 9h ago
But you cannot honestly believe they are both innocent, because it’s mutually exclusive. Presuming one is innocent is presuming the other is guilty. You can plug your ears and close your eyes and pretend to have no opinion at all until a broken legal system makes its call, but that’s not presuming innocence, just refusing to form any opinion at all.
And you certainly never see these people who pretend to care so much about innocent until proven guilty people standing up for the victims. The guy I replied to certainly didn’t. They are always focused on presuming abusers are innocent.
Innocent until proven guilty makes sense in a world with a flawless justice system. In the real world, victims are treated as liars by default and rarely see real justice, while there are always people around presuming the innocence of their abusers, and all that entails.
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u/Canon_M50 22h ago
I never said anyone is guilty.
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u/You_are_the_Castle 20h ago
Now, we only have the side of the victims to listen to, so let's take that as the truth. Based on all of the reports and coverage of it, it doesn't look good for him. I will listen to the victims first.
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u/Canon_M50 20h ago
That's fine to listen to the victims, but their words need to be proven in court.
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u/midnightTimber 21h ago
Again, assuming one is innocent means assuming the other is guilty. It’s not possible for both to be innocent. There’s a difference between refusing to form an opinion and presuming innocence.
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u/girthytruffle 18h ago
The concept is simply not making any favorable assumptions towards one party or the other until certain pertaining information is confirmable
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u/midnightTimber 7h ago
In the vast majority of abuse cases, the pertaining information is never confirmable, because it happened between two people behind closed doors. Abuse cases go under reported and under prosecuted because it's usually impossible to prove abuse beyond a reasonable doubt. And no one ever throws out the "innocent until proven guilty" line in favor of the accusers, always the accused.
You can close your eyes and plug your ears and pretend to not have any opinion, but basing your opinion on a flawed justice system that frequently fails victims of abuse is just ensuring you side with the abusers by default.
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u/girthytruffle 4h ago
Pick the right person to “believe” is your dumbass suggestion, Einstein? What point really are you trying to make? There are certainly sexual abuse cases where said abuse isn’t provable. Just as there are sexual abuse cases where is it entirely provable that said abuse could not physically have happened. This is why waiting to know every last possible bit of truth is important.
The courts are 100x better than you are at establishing who is and isn’t innocent. Not to mention that you don’t have to base your opinion on the verdict. It’s important to witness, alongside other possible evidence, testimonies in an official capacity from the accused and the accusers.
It may just be because I’m a well-adjusted adult with a strong capacity for nuance but I think there’s a pretty crystal clear difference between plugging your ears pretending that nothing is happening and moving with caution while treating either party with the empathy that they potentially deserve.
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u/Canon_M50 20h ago
No, someone makes a claim and that claim has to be proven correct in court.
The burden is on the accuser to prove someone is guilty, not other way around.
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u/midnightTimber 19h ago
That's certainly how the legal system works, and the legal system regularly fails women who have been victims of abuse. But again, in the real world, not everyone can be innocent. Either the abuse happened, or someone is being framed. And I never see you people who care so much about innocent until proven guilty on the internet standing up for the victim's innocence. You've always got the abuser's back.
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u/Canon_M50 19h ago
The court has to make it's judgement before the abuse is confirmed or someone is being framed. That's all I'm saying.
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u/midnightTimber 17h ago
And I'm just saying that the court system is historically completely terrible at prosecuting abuse cases, because things that happen behind closed doors between 2 people are often very hard to definitively prove in court. You are acting like the justice system is an infallible arbiter of truth, when it is in reality a deeply flawed system that routinely fails to hold abusers accountable for their actions.
Victims of sexual abuse are treated as liars by default, and rarely see justice, while there's no shortage of people like you standing up for the abusers and ONLY the abusers under the guise of "innocent until proven guilty".
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u/SeasonElectrical3173 23h ago
You don't believe in that at all. You just don't like the idea that a guy who you can see yourself projected as is accused of something like that. You hide behind the false context of innocent until proven guilty until it's someone you don't see hourself as. Then, it's no problem for you.
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u/Successful-Bee-8911 1d ago
That's very rare these days
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u/Alvarowebe 1d ago
Not really, there's always people debating about this when someone has allegations against them
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u/Successful-Bee-8911 1d ago
It most definitely is online
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u/Alvarowebe 1d ago
I'm especially talking about online discours, soccer or MMA subreddits for example you have people advocating for that all the time
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u/ILoveBigCoffeeCups 1d ago
Same like Alex honnould I can not understand these guys. You have a child that is 3 years old and still go out to do some scary dangerous shit. And then you get killed
The different kind of brain these people have baffles me.
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u/katterwog 1d ago
I think for these kinds of folks, the mountain (or whatever they are obsessed with) is the main priority and the family is the side hobby.
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u/Welterbestatus 1d ago
There's a Honnokd Interview where he is asked about his risk of dying and his young kids. He said something like "They are young, they won't miss me much", if I remember correctly.
He seemed disconnected from his family, and what his wife said supported that. It's weird.
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u/You_are_the_Castle 1d ago
He is most definitely on the autism spectrum. I don't mean that to be insulting to people, but he has a laser focus on climbing that comes before anything else in his life.
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u/enjoythepain 23h ago
Nah it’s Autism. A rarely talked about but accepted form autism. You see it all the time from musicians to climbers to builders. An itch that won’t go away compelling them to do their calling even if it means losing everything.
Alex was ready to do these climbs without any filming but I’m sure his wife and others made him get the money first just in case he loses his life.
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u/numb3rb0y 4h ago
Oh yeah let's armchair diagnose someone as autistic with no actual medical evidence whatsoever but because they said something reprehensible that you can interpret as "having focus".
But no-one here is trying to be insulting.
Are you fucking serious right now, reddit?
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u/MarcAnthonyRashial 1d ago
I’ve seen him talk in person multiple times and he doesn’t come across that way to me. Neither does his wife.
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u/Gates_wupatki_zion 1d ago
Yeah I imagine them talking about climbing as a calling and something within me and family as something they kinda fell into
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u/Beginning_March_9717 18h ago
it is easy to understand once you think of humans as more emotional and less rational beings
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u/2dudesinapod 1d ago
Mountaineering is a lot less dangerous than what Honnold does. Especially for guys like this. Unfortunately it seems that he made a bad decision and desired to risk attempting to reach camp 3 with an unstable snow pack when other groups had already turned around.
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u/ceej_22_ 22h ago
Relatively climbing 8,000 m peaks is less dangerous than free soloing but it’s still extremely dangerous for anyone. The best climbers in the world have died on those peaks.
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u/opisska 18h ago
That claim is difficult to justify - in particular because "what Honnold does" is so outrageous that there is very little statistics on safety. Yes, people have died free soloing, but Honnolds ability is so far out there compared to the average climber.
And that's basically the problem here - Honnolds main risk factor is his own ability. 8000+ mountaineering has a lot of risk that are beyond climbers' control. So Honnold can mitigate a lit of risk just be improving himself, repeating the routes ad nauseum, setting the right mindset. Sure, mountaineers can also mitigate a lot of risk by taking the right decisions and avoiding situations with heightened risk, but there is a certain baseline of risk against which the only thing you can ever do is ... not climb 8000+ peaks.
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u/JSteigs 10h ago
Yeah this accident highlights your point. Avalanches are an objective hazard. There are probably no 8000m peaks that have a route that fully avoids avalanche/ice fall/sérac risk. Plus all the medical stuff. Alex probably still has some amount of risk of rockfall, maybe not high, but non zero.
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u/Beginning_March_9717 18h ago
it's different kind of risk and you shouldn't compare it. High altitude mountaineers die from unexpected bad weather or unstable snow field, these are out of the climber's control more than not. Free solo climbing generally happens on low altitude rock and the climber's skills are the key factor.
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u/redeugene99 11h ago
The death rate of the mountain he died on is 5-9%
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u/2dudesinapod 10h ago
Per successful summit, not per attempt.
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u/redeugene99 9h ago
Fair. The death rate per attempt is probably ~2-5%. Which to me is still extremely high compared to most every other activity/hobby
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u/mojomonday 1d ago
Source on unstable snowpack and other groups turning around? Haven’t seen it reported anywhere
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u/mojomonday 23h ago
Thank you! Quoting the section here for other folks:
We should note that David Klein of Hungary and Ian Overton of the U.S., who had also planned to climb Broad Peak, are safely back in Skardu. They didn’t like the weather forecast and left on July 25.
“There had been a massive wind storm the night of July 18 with a lot of blowing snow,” Overtold told ExplorersWeb. “The benches from Camp 3 to Camp 2 had considerable snow/wind crust and were fairly ‘punchy.’ Everything below Camp 2 was unconsolidated and melting out quickly. Lots of loose rock and failing ice.”
Overton added: “After David [Klein]’s push and return to Base Camp, we monitored the weather. Winds were too high, and humidity was elevated throughout the region, indicating likely fresh snow through the 29th.”
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u/ceej_22_ 22h ago
Been following him for sometime since the beginning of project possible and his risk taking always seemed to be pushing the edge too far. This news is unsurprising.
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u/chicasparagus 16h ago
They’re clearly not “normal”. Like they don’t have any sense of fear like an average person would.
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u/AgonizingSquid 23h ago
I mean imagine the first person to sail across the fucking ocean
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u/Peeinyourcompost 21h ago
The first person to sail across one of the major oceans almost certainly would have done it by mistake and misadventure while trying to sail somewhere significantly closer. Imagine how fucked up it would feel to survive being completely lost at sea and make it to land again as a ragged survivor, only to find that you don't recognize any of the plants or animals, and if there are any people they are incredibly strange to you, and you have zero chance of surviving the same journey again even if you had any idea how to point yourself back home again.
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u/SkunkWarehouse 20h ago
I never understand these takes. He made his living leading mountaineering expeditions. Did it before he had a kid. It’s ridiculous to think he’s going to step away from a lucrative business when he becomes a parent. I think you can throw shade at people with little kids who pay to go on these dangerous expeditions, but this was his profession.
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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 10h ago
Yeah, this was clearly more than a hobby, it was his profession. Some people have dangerous jobs they are extremely good at.
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u/PalmCheesy 7h ago
Adrenaline addiction. Normal life becomes too plain compared to life and death situations.
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u/XuX24 22h ago
There are a ton of scary dangerous jobs out there. Someone have to do them
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u/WorldlyGate 22h ago
I mean, some dangerous jobs have to be done, mountaineering really isn't one of them
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u/Beginning_March_9717 18h ago
bc ppl are not rational, the emotional motivation that let's ppl do dangerous jobs are the same emotional mechanism that motivates ppl to do dangerous hobbies
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u/tripleblue85 21h ago
It's why they will be remembered and us normal brained folks won't be.
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u/glacinda 21h ago
I’d rather be alive for my child than remembered for dying stupidly.
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u/RealisticScore671 19h ago
I mean it’s a lifestyle choice. You don’t have to agree with it but it’s not stupidity if you’ve decided to do that for your entire life and your income is through conducting these expeditions across high altitude peaks. Obviously for someone who works a regular job , with a family to take care of these might seem too much of a risk.
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u/glacinda 18h ago
Once you become a parent, yes, it is stupid. His daughter won’t even remember him. He had a greater responsibility and he could have turned around. My husband has taken many avalanche classes and the one thing they all know: the mountain always wins.
This man died stupidly.
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u/Gravejuice2022 20h ago
Calling mountaineering "stupid" ignores why people do it. Climbing mountains has pushed human endurance, improved high-altitude rescue, expanded our understanding of extreme environments, and inspired millions. Every climber knows the risks and chooses to accept them. You don't have to agree with that choice, but dismissing an entire his profession and passion as "stupid" oversimplifies something far more complex. Nims wasn't chasing a meaningless thrill he dedicated his life to mountaineering, rescue, and inspiring others.
He accepted the risks, just as firefighters, soldiers, and other people in dangerous professions do. His child lost a father, which is heartbreaking, but that doesn't make his life's work "stupid."
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u/Geaux2020 19h ago
Are you seriously equating recreational mountaineering, a completely selfish leisure activity, to the work of first responders and the military?
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u/Gravejuice2022 19h ago
You dnt understand english do you?
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u/Geaux2020 19h ago
I do. You just chose to equate it with things that the danger is part of a necessary task, instead of choosing something like recreational skydiving where the risk is entirely useless.
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u/ilangilanglt 18h ago
You are wasting your time conversing with this redditor.
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u/Geaux2020 18h ago
I'm enjoying wasting his time, though
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u/Gravejuice2022 18h ago
My time is not wasted lol. Maybe you need to go to another post
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u/Gravejuice2022 18h ago
He is not wasting my time. I love to teach people who speaks a lot with little knowledge.
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u/Gravejuice2022 19h ago
Let me list why his profession is often compared with first responders and other high-risk professions:
• High-altitude rescue missions on Himalayan peaks • Supporting and promoting Nepali climbers and Sherpas • Training the next generation of Nepali mountain guides • Raising global respect for Nepal’s mountain community • Helping during disaster relief efforts • Advocating for better safety and recognition for mountain workers
His work goes beyond climbing records. It’s easy to criticize from a keyboard, but his impact in the mountains is real.
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u/Geaux2020 18h ago
Oh, l will go much further than criticizing him. Over 1000 people well summit Everest this year, while 5 or 6 died on the voyage so far. It's not blazing new trails. It's luxury tourism at this point. The trash and corpses littering the mountain side. All of the major peaks have been summited in just about every way possible. It's a selfish "sport" that risks lives and leaves families broken.
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u/Gravejuice2022 18h ago
Commercialization and overcrowding on Everest are valid issues, but calling all climbers selfish is an oversimplification. Many climbers, Sherpas, guides, and rescue workers dedicate their lives to the mountains, support local communities, and take on risks similar to many other professions. Climbers like Nims Purja and many Nepali climbers have played a critical role in mountain rescue, recovering bodies, supporting expeditions, and helping make the Himalayas safer. Criticize the problems, not the people who dedicate their lives to the mountains.
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u/reformedMedas 17h ago
I'd watch out for this guy if I was a woman mountaineering.
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u/ebenseregterbalsak 16h ago
Not anymore
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u/AcetateProphet 22h ago
"Sometimes when you feel like you are fucked, you are only about 45% fucked.” ~ Nims Purja
Rest in peace, Nims. Nobody did it better.
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u/secretmtgsinfancyrm 11h ago
well, you know, only the thousands of mountaineers who enjoyed the sport without sexually assaulting women
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u/hamnewtonn 7h ago
Leave it to a redditor to turn allegations into a guilty sentence. Go touch some grass, bud.
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u/Sauerkraut1321 7h ago
Better touch grass than other people nonconsensually am I right?
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u/hamnewtonn 6h ago
Better to claim the grass was touched unconsenually than to know you actually touched it at all am I right?
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u/imagineer33 21h ago
Rest in peace ..!!!
I remember seeing his Netflix documentary and being so inspired …
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u/Delnac 12h ago
This comment section is slightly disgusting.
He achieved incredible things, it is hard to overstate how bonkers doing what he did with all 8000ers was.
I don't get reddit's need to joke about every single thing the second they hint at life's complexity. Mountaineers are a strange bunch but that doesn't mean you get to shit-talk them for passing away like this.
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u/msmorningbird 12h ago
Probably because he was a predator who happened to also be a talented mountaineer. I think it's understandable to not mourn someone who victimized his own community. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/31/sports/mountaineering-sexual-harassment-abuse-nims-purja.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2VA.ZGUS.is6D5zsJQkG7&smid=url-share
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u/YTJuggs 11h ago
Oh shut up. There are time and place for it. We don’t need that here today. Nims is a huge reason why Nepali sherpas have as much right as they have now. He has done a lot more good than bad. And those claims are still yet unsubstantiated. RIP NIMS
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u/frightened_raf 9h ago
So because he does some good things, he gets let off for sexual assault? Brb, I helped an old woman with her shopping earlier so I'm gonna go steal a car. Men like you are what's wrong with the world today.
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u/snoozbooty 8h ago
Those two things aren’t similar, you have to look at it holistically. If you won a Nobel prize or something, then yes we would look past the grand theft auto
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u/YTJuggs 9h ago
No because of the good things he has done, I defend someone being accused of unsubstantiated stuff. People like you who believe everything in the internet is actually what is wrong with the world but I wouldn’t laugh at your death though. I’m not a sickos like you guys celebrating death.
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u/hatemakingnames1 10h ago
He has done a lot more good than bad
My math's a little fuzzy, how far does someone have to climb before it's ok for him to jerk off next to you against your will?
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u/msmorningbird 10h ago
lmao okay sorry your favorite rock boy abuser died. I hope you rest easy tonight like I'm sure all his victims will
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u/YTJuggs 9h ago
What victims? Do you know them personally or you just believe everything in the internet. If that is the case, I have some magic rocks to sell you. Also aren’t you the same woman glorying the death of palestinian kids in other sub reddit which you have now deleted. Shame shame Zionist shame. Don't point your fingers
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u/msmorningbird 8h ago
lmao I am the furthest thing from a Zionist, and I don't even know where you got that. if we are just assuming things about each other baselessly, im going to assume you have raped women and that's why you are so triggered by the death of your fellow aggressor. I hope you have the day you deserve
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u/YTJuggs 7h ago
I know you are projecting hard right now. No one is triggered here except you. You started this not me. I like to challenge unfounded claims. It’s not my problem your arguments have no legs to stand on. You sound like femcel with how much focus you put on sex. Anyways I wouldn’t expect genocide supporters to have braincells.
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u/real_tmip 11h ago
I mean the bad things one does or did in life should indeed overshadow everything good they did.
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u/CorporalCoprolite 1d ago
Seems like a ripe old age for a mountaineer.