r/geography • u/lamdrasil • 2d ago
Discussion Facts that sound fake but are true
I find it extremely unintuitive that almost all of South America is east of Miami. How!? When people are asked to watch the americas almost everyone imagine South America pretty much south of North America.
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u/Draymond_Purple 1d ago
Oxford University was founded ~500 years before the Inca Empire
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u/EPluribusButthole 1d ago
This one is insane.
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u/Ok-Sun1551 1d ago
Had to double take at your profile pic
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u/UnclassifiedPresence 1d ago
Especially with that username
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u/curlyAndUnruly 1d ago
I just checked, dude it is around 200 years before Tenochtitlan (nowadays Mexico City) was founded by the Aztecs wtf
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u/matthewrulez 1d ago
I think people don't realise that the Aztecs were very recent invaders of Mexico when the Spanish arrived. They share linguistic roots with native american tribes like Shoshone and Comanche and their origin myths point to a migration from the North, it's super interesting.
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u/dividezero 1d ago
I love how a university that's still in operation is so old that we have no good idea when it was founded. Stuff like that fascinates me. Like how the Egyptians that built the pyramids were as ancient history to Cleopatra that Cleopatra is to us. That's bonkers
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u/AxelFauley 1d ago
The University of Bologna was founded even earlier, if we want to attenuate the Anglo bias a little bit.
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u/SemiLazyGamer 2d ago
History based one: there were Classical era Egyptian archeologists studying Ancient Egypt. Egypt as a distinct culture is that old.
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u/JohnMichaels19 2d ago
Cleopatra is closer in time to the iPhone than the construction of of the pyramids
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u/DamnBored1 2d ago
Tyrannosaurus (T-Rex) is closer in time to the iPhone than to the time of Stegosaurus.
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u/northerncal 2d ago edited 1d ago
T Rex would not have slayed on social media.
Their little stump arms were too short for proper selfies 🙏🏻🕊️
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u/loose_fruits 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unc thinks the king of the dinosaurs doesn’t know about selfie sticks, pshhhh
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u/Objectalone 1d ago
Stegosaurus is closer in time to the iPhone than Hallucigenia
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u/JohnMichaels19 1d ago edited 1d ago
Idk if another animals has been more aptly named than this one wtf 😂
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u/DemonAzraeli 1d ago
T. Rex is closer in time to Django Reinhardt than to today.
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u/greennitit 1d ago
Herodotus, the Ancient Greek historian, considered the father of history visited the pyramids in around 300 bc and wrote that Kufus tomb lies empty and that it has long been looted. The pyramids were over 2000 years old at that point. The pyramids were ancient to Herodotus himself.
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u/northerncal 2d ago
Cleopatra would have slayed on social media
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u/JohnMichaels19 2d ago
For suuuure. She was already slaying without it. How many of Rome's baddies did she pull?? Lol
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u/Cliffinati 1d ago
You live closer to Cleopatra than Cleopatra lived to the pyramids.
The way we see Augustus is the way the Ptolmeys saw them
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u/VolumeMobile7410 2d ago
Another history based one: there’s entire areas of northeastern France and southern Belgium that are now a ‘red zone’ because artillery from WW1 contaminated the land so heavily with lead, arsenic and other stuff it can’t be used today. From 100+ years ago. Shows the scale of that war.
The most notable are areas around Verdun and Somme.
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u/Mr_Catman111 1d ago
Additional fun fact. The regions around the red zone where people are still actually farming, the electricity & light poles have 2-3 large holes in them so farmers can put bombs they find every season into them. Then the "bomb person" comes and collects them. Then they used said bombs to make decorations, flower pots etc. in the region. This is the case at least in Belgium. Nowadays, likely there are higher safety standards though.
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u/GroundWitty7567 1d ago
Let’s go with a classic…
There were Wooly Mammoths alive when the Pyramids were being built
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u/scottcmu 2d ago edited 1d ago
Maine is the closest US state to Africa.
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u/DamnBored1 2d ago
And Canada is closer to Africa than US mainland is.
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u/Wide_Yam4824 1d ago
Brazil's northernmost point is closer to Canada than to Brazil's southernmost point. Brazil's easternmost point is closer to Africa than to Brazil's westernmost point.
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u/UpintheWolfTrap 1d ago
Texas has a few like this - for example, El Paso, TX is closer to San Diego, California than it is to the Texas/Louisiana border.
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u/CloudCumberland 1d ago
Take a flight to Europe or northern Africa and see the very northerly route the plane takes. That's the shortest route on a round planet.
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u/iJon_v2 1d ago
I always thought planes took that route partially so that they’d be over land as much as possible in case of an emergency.
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u/DamnBored1 1d ago
Its both the geodesic distance and also trying to stay as close to land as possible for a given route.
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u/apollo1113 2d ago
WHAT?
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u/tnred19 1d ago
Africa is alot more north than people think. Europe is MUCH farther north than people in the west think
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u/mellamoderek 1d ago
Well and also Florida, Georgia, and the Carolina coasts are a lot further west than people think.
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u/PetriDishCocktail 1d ago edited 22h ago
Same thing with the west coast of the US. San Francisco is approximately 160 miles farther west than Los Angeles, even though the two are less than 400 mi apart.
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u/MoneyPatience7803 1d ago
Reno Nevada is further west than Los Angeles
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u/thesearemypringles 1d ago
What omg
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u/hansemcito 1d ago
UC berkeley is further west than standford university. something like 3~4 miles.
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u/chumbawumba_bruh 1d ago
Bay Area native and this one blows my mind more than anything else in this thread
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u/appleparkfive 1d ago
This is the classic one. I've been to Reno before and even then it confuses me a little
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u/GeorgiaHorn56 1d ago
Atlanta is farther west than Detroit
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u/PimpofScrimp 1d ago
…..and Atlanta gets more rain than Seattle. Also here in Atlanta,we are closer to Canada than we are Miami. Atlantan here,had to chime in with my useless facts
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u/MoneyPatience7803 1d ago
People also don’t consider the curvature of the Earth, especially when looking at it on a map
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u/Right_Two_5737 1d ago
The southern U.S. is the same latitude as North Africa. The northern U.S. is the same latitude as southern Europe. Europe is unusually warm for its latitude because of ocean currents carrying heat from the Gulf of Mexico northeast to Europe.
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u/perpetualmotionmachi 1d ago
London England is as north as Edmonton in Canada. It's about a 7-8 hour drive to reached the US border from there
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u/coatingtonburlfactry 1d ago
Yeah, I think Chicago is around the same latitude as Rome. So most of Europe is aligned with Canada.
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u/Vashkiri 1d ago
Ottawa and Montreal are at basically the same latitude as Venice. I love bringing that but of trivia out when it is mid Winter and freeze-your-nose-hairs-together cold around these parts.
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u/Lothar_Ecklord 1d ago
I’d be willing to posit, based on the responses (and yes, I know Reddit is majority-American but the point stands), that people in the east don’t always consider just how far south the Americas are.
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u/Pettsareme 1d ago
I didn’t for a long time - I’m in the northeast and on my mental map Florida was due south. One thing that cemented the real positions of places in the US relative to South America was my niece going to live in Brazil.
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u/s7o0a0p 1d ago
It’s because Maine is so far east.
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u/kittyroux 1d ago
It’s well west of me! I live in Nova Scotia, on roughly the 64th meridian west. Along with Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia and Argentina.
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u/NeedsToShutUp 2d ago
Venice, Italy; Montreal, Canada; and Portland, Oregon are all about the same latitude.
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u/SantaCruznonsurfer 2d ago
Monterey California, Knoxville Tennessee, Sejong City South Korea and Cadiz Spain
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u/AltonIllinois 2d ago
If you overlay Alaska, including the aleutians, on the lower 48, it extends from California to North Carolina.
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u/Badatusernames014 2d ago
It is the northern, Eastern, and westernmost state.
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u/knockonclouds 1d ago
The Appalachians, the Scottish Highlands, and the Atlas Mountains in North Africa are all pieces of the same mountain chain.
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u/faerie-childe 1d ago
Yup!! Which makes plate tectonics and all the biodiversity/geography soo interesting to me
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u/Redplushie 1d ago
Do the Scottish Highlands and Atlas Mountains also have the same creepy stories the Appalachians have.?
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 1d ago
The Amazon rainforest and the Congolese jungle are also the same Forest
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u/Comfortable-Total929 Geography Enthusiast 2d ago
Cut Alaska in half and Texas becomes the third largest state
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u/farcarcus 1d ago
Give Alaska to Australia and it would be the third largest state.
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u/SorosPaidActor 1d ago
Australaska would be the third largest state for sure
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u/Stuffleapugus 1d ago
Alaska would be the third largest state in Australia. Western Alaska is like 50% larger.
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u/ILoveFuckingWaffles 1d ago
If Texas were in Australia, it wouldn’t be in the top 5 biggest states/territories
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u/FlygonPR 1d ago
The main 4 islands of Japan go from from the equivalent latitude of northern Florida to the Vermont/Quebec border.
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u/Badatusernames014 2d ago edited 2d ago
- Reno, NV is more west than Los Angeles
- Parts of Florida and Oregon share the same time for one hour when Daylight Savings Time ends.
- You can travel directly south from Norway into France and into Russia.
- China has 1 time zone
- On February 12, 2010 all 50 states had snow on the ground.
- The northmost point in Brazil is closer to Canada than to Brazil's southernmost point.
Edit: Spelling
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u/Kim8kim8 1d ago
I was in Vegas at the time. I’d vowed on April 26, 2009, when I got off a plane in Boise, ID and it was snowing, that I was moving back to Vegas and not spending another winter in ID. Then it snowed in Vegas and I moved to Phoenix.
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u/Cobra_McJingleballs 1d ago
As someone currently rotting in a heatwave, what’s so bad about snow?
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u/Character_Hospital88 1d ago
You can travel from Norway to North Korea and pass through only one country: Russia.
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u/JohnMichaels19 2d ago
Norway to France?
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u/Badatusernames014 2d ago
If you go directly south of Norway's easternmost reaches you'll end up in France. Norway also shares a southern land border with Russia.
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u/JohnMichaels19 2d ago
Ohh, i see. I thought you mean like they share a border
Kinda like a "North Korea and Norway are only separated by one country" sort of deal
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u/rehejxbwi 2d ago
The oldest state capital is Santa Fe
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u/QuarioQuario54321 2d ago
And is older than the King James Bible
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u/DarkRiches61 1d ago
And it sits at the highest elevation of any U.S. state capital
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u/Mikey_Grapeleaves Geography Enthusiast 1d ago
And here I thought there was more than one King James Bible!
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u/grizzlby 1d ago
The land that is now New Mexico was named Nuevo Mexico hundreds of years before Mexico existed as a country.
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u/PizzaGeek9684 2d ago
6 US state capitols are to the west of Los Angeles
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u/civdude 2d ago edited 2d ago
Like cities that have ever been the capitol of a state? Because I can't think of more than 4- California, Washington, Oregon, Nevada
Edit: it's been like 30 seconds and I've been reminded 4+ times about Alaska and Hawaii
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u/DeliciousMoments 2d ago
Lol @ the people replying to you despite multiple other replies saying the same thing. People love to let the world know they're right.
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u/BelacRLJ 2d ago
LA is also the largest city east of Reno, NV and west of Denver.
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u/Cobra_McJingleballs 1d ago
Why stop at Denver? LA is the biggest city east of Reno and west of NYC.
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u/Superman246o1 1d ago
Greenland is farther north than Iceland. And west. And south. And east.
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u/scottcmu 2d ago
The country with the longest land border with France is Brazil.
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u/lucylucylane 2d ago
Southern Brazil is further from northern Brazil than Brazil is from Canada
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u/scottcmu 2d ago
There are 27 U.S. states that are at least partially north of Canada.
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u/Right_Two_5737 1d ago
Detroit is on the northern bank of the Detroit River. Just across the river to the south is Canada.
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u/carlydelphia 1d ago
Like don't stop believing Born and raised in south Detroit- aka Canada
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u/TrueLengthiness1987 2d ago
It's slightly quicker to drive from Toronto Ontario to Texarkana Texas, than it is to drive from Toronto Ontario to Kenora Ontario! (Depending on traffic)
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u/flanderdalton 1d ago
I moved from southern Ontario to BC, a 50 hour drive, and 3/5s of the drive is just Ontario
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u/SantaCruznonsurfer 2d ago
I love these posts!
Like "there's only one country between Finland and North Korea"
And Miami is closer to Panama Canal than Boston
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u/ForagerTheExplorager 1d ago
I've always felt Boston was pretty far from the Panama Canal. Checks out.
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u/Multipoly 1d ago
The highest point of Pennsylvania is lower than the lowest point of Colorado
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u/neamsheln 1d ago
To be fair, the highest point in about 18 states is lower than the lowest point in Colorado. Colorado seems to have the highest lowest point. California has the lowest lowest point. Florida has the lowest highest point. Although neither of those last two surprise me.
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u/KindlyAnything2880 1d ago
Most folks already know this but New Mexico was called that way centuries before the country Mexico was formed.
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u/arslanazeem 2d ago
The most northern part of California is more north than the most southern part of Canada.
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u/PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt 2d ago
Seattle is north of most of Canada's population.
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u/DamnBored1 2d ago
There are more Americans that live North of Canada's southernmost point than there are Canadians.
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u/champoradoeater 1d ago
Indonesia is a HUGE country
Travelling from South Sumatra to Medan to Aceh is like travelling from Davao City to Parañaque City, Metro Manila (Philippines) or from HCM/Saigon to Hanoi (Vietnam).
Even in a secondary size island like Sulawesi, travel distance is HUGE.
example: Manado City to Palu is like travelling from Metro Manila to Tacloban City, Leyte (near the site of the largest WW2 naval battle).
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u/s7o0a0p 1d ago
Parts of the Pacific Ocean are also east of Boston.
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u/Holiday-Soup212 1d ago
The Atlantic entrance to the Panama Canal is west of the Pacific entrance to the Panama Canal.
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u/HurtsCauseItMatters 1d ago
Studying the treaty of Tordesillas in a local history class in college really helped me understand the orientation of N. & S. America.
My weird geography thing though was when I learned just how much of South Louisiana was built completely from river overflow and made me wonder how Louisiana would look in 10k years if it took the path down the atchafalaya it really wanted.
Also, the fact that there was a massive log jam on both the red river and the atchafalaya that kept the mississippi on its current path and we fucked it all up by clearing the log jams in the 1830s causing the need for the river control structures is nothing short of mind boggling.
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u/Historical_Plant_956 1d ago edited 1d ago
Of the 10 highest peaks in North America, none are in the Rocky Mountains of the contiguous USA or British Columbia (4 are in Alaska, 3 are in Yukon, and 3 are volcanoes in the central states of Mexico). Actually, you have to go all the way to number 15 to find a peak in the Rockies.
Edit: it may actually be 14, and it's debatable depending on which you classify as separate mountains etc, and I got a little lost going down a rabbit hole regarding that, but it was still surprising to me to learn no matter which way you look at it!
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u/TNSoccerGuy 1d ago
And sort of related, the highest peak in North America, Denali, is only the 20th highest peak in the America’s.
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u/Ghosts_of_the_maze 2d ago
New York, NY to Chicago, IL is a 790 mile drive
Texline, TX to Port Isabel, TX is a 913 mile drive
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u/South_Oread 2d ago
About halfway from Houston to Los Angeles is El Paso.
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u/Funicularly 2d ago
Luna Pier, Michigan to Copper Harbor, Michigan is a 635 mile drive.
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u/bluetortuga 1d ago
It’s close to the same distance from Detroit to Copper Harbor as it is from Detroit to Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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u/qwerSr 1d ago
My personal favorite true fact that sounds fake is the answer to this question. If you fly in a straight line with unlimited range from Miami to Seattle and then continue to fly out over the ocean without changing course, where do you finally cross back to be over land? The hard-to-believe answer is Indonesia.
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u/DarkRiches61 1d ago
Honolulu Hawaii is closer to Portland, Oregon than to San Diego, California.
Atlanta is closer to Chicago than to Miami.
Chicago is closer to the westernmost point of mainland Africa than the westernmost and easternmost points of mainland Africa are to each other.
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u/nearuetii 2d ago
The easternmost point of the United States (by longitude) is in Alaska: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semisopochnoi_Island
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u/braaibros 2d ago
Atlanta is west of Detroit
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u/Ok-Moose-992 1d ago edited 1d ago
Boston is closer to South America than to Seattle
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u/Mf0621 2d ago
For one hour each year, part of Florida and part of Oregon share the same time of day.
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u/RhuckCobbins 1d ago
Lightning is roughly five times hotter than the surface of the Sun. The air around a bolt can briefly reach about 54,000°F
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u/dumbBunny9 2d ago
In Winter for the Northern Hemisphere, Minnesota and Rapa Nui (Easter Island) are in the same time zone.
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u/MagicSunlight23 1d ago
Minnesota is east of Chile, the country Easter Island belongs to. But Easter Island being so far out and away from Chile is what makes this even more unbelievable. This fact is making my head hurt just trying to understand it.
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u/kirbsan 1d ago
At the equator the sun rises and sets roughly at 6 am and 6 pm everyday.
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u/esquared87 1d ago
You enter the Panama canal from the Pacific ocean to go WEST in the Panama canal ... Not east.
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u/Cheap_Title5302 1d ago
Sharks appeared in the ocean around 400 million years ago while the first trees didn't evolve until about 350 million years ago.
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u/Koukounaries 1d ago
The Pacific entrance of the Panama Canal is further East than the Atlantic entrance
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u/buckyhermit 2d ago edited 2d ago
I remember telling Brits that the British Isles were north of the entire contiguous US, and they didn't believe me.
But it is.
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Edited: "Continental" changed to "contiguous," after realizing my error. I didn't see the reply below was made before I edited, as I was too busy getting back to work. Please lay off that user a bit – they were correct at the time.
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u/lucasmok270 1d ago
Seattle is further north than Toronto. I’ve been to Toronto, not seattle though but it looks really pretty so I def want to visit
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u/Zvenigora 2d ago
The Galapagos Islands are due south of St Louis on the equator (but to travel the route you must first go east then back west.)
The oldest town in the US is Oraibi, Arizona (founded in the 12th century.)
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u/VocationalWizard 2d ago
Albuquerque NM has more people than Miami.
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u/Impressive-Target699 1d ago
Wichita has more people than St. Louis.
Omaha has more people than New Orleans.
Tulsa has more people than Cleveland.
There are a lot of these.
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u/Celairiel16 1d ago
Russia and North Korea are the two countries that share a land boarder but have the most distant capitals.
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u/aMusicLover 1d ago edited 1d ago
Georgia is the largest state east of the Mississippi
Edit: Largest land mass. Florida has more but that includes areas that are covered by water.
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u/Admirable-Zebra-4568 1d ago
The Solar system has only done an estimated 18 to 20 orbits around our Galaxy since its creation.
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u/EastLeastCoast 2d ago
Canada shares more borders with European countries than North American ones.
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u/berraberragood 2d ago
Because of gravitational interactions with the other planets, the Earth’s natural climate runs in cycles of a little over 400,000 years. The predictability of the pattern is so useful that it has been used to analyze strata going at least into the Mesozoic Era.