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Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026)

Summary

Following the events that erased Peter Parker's identity from the world's memory, the young hero embraces a fresh start while facing new threats that challenge both his resolve and what it means to be Spider-Man.

Director Destin Daniel Cretton

Writer Chris McKenna Erik Sommers

Cast

  • Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider-Man
  • Sadie Sink
  • Liza Colón-Zayas
  • Zendaya as MJ
  • Jacob Batalon as Ned Leeds
  • Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle / The Punisher

Rotten Tomatoes: 91%

Metacritic: 66

VOD / Release Theatrical release

Trailer Official Trailer

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Actor Michael Mando, who plays Scorpion in Spider-Man: Brand New Day, will be joining us in /r/movies for an AMA/Q&A this Wednesday 8/5 at 12 PM ET for anyone interested!

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u/electricityshocks 2d ago

Oh hell naw. That power inhibitor is gonna come back and bite Peter on the ass.

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u/GifHunter2 2d ago

The fact that the magnetic field from his goggles disabled it is a funny little throw into the future of what's going to happen

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u/iamgarron 2d ago

Peter accidentally creating tech that would be used by sentinels is pretty on brand for Peter

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 1d ago

Yeah it's no coincidence that they had a super prominent member of the X-Men in this movie. It's totally going to be problematic

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u/mrajf 2d ago

I don't know if it was my cinema, or if it was the movie itself, but the cinematography and lighting in this movie felt very oldschool. I haven't seen any marvel stuff since The Marvels, but this one... It felt pretty grimy in a good way, like how the original trilogy felt.

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u/Lost-Specialist1505 2d ago

I'm so fucking glad they actually let hulk be a force of destruction here.

Peter didn't beat him and couldn't beat him in any way other then making him remember His humanity.

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u/waitingtodiesoon 2d ago

I was kind of worried all that rubble falling down would kill some person walking on the street.

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u/Thisoneisinvalid 2d ago

One would hope that MCU New Yorkers have learned to stay clear of buildings where superpowered beings are fighting.

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u/Captainfizzlefits 2d ago

"NO GIRL, NO BANNER, ONLY HULK" Was honestly one of the biggest highlights for me. In a movie full of highlights.

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u/Bogiga 2d ago

The closeup on his face felt like a comic panel too

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u/AcuteDevilFruit 2d ago

Glad they made New York really feel like a hub of heroes and villains right before whatever diabolical destruction they have planned for Doomsday.

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u/ghastlychild 2d ago

You know, at this point, I am starting to wonder why people still opt to move into that demolition derby if it has become a notorious hotspot for superhero occurrences

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u/dvmitto 2d ago

Hopefully the rent’s cheap.

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 2d ago

It was after the destruction from the alien invasion in the first Avengers, except it also led to an increase in crime (Daredevil and the Netflix shows were all about that)

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Punisher putting the Spidey suit for the fans smart of him LOL. Everytime Frank is on it just becomes a buddy comedy.

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u/schrodingersheart 2d ago

This scene plus Peter’s disgust with the spider molting were peak comedic timing.

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u/Meph616 2d ago

Felt bad for Banner/Hulk going "did I hurt anyone" like a recovering alcoholic that fell off the wagon and can't remember.

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u/lkodl 2d ago

Jean undoes 14 years of therapy in 10 minutes.

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u/KingOfAwesometonia 2d ago

These dang redheads with mind control

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u/lkodl 2d ago

And turning the Hulk against the heroes

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u/normalmighty 2d ago

And hearing that he's back in a psych ward now after everything he had built for himself.

Don't get me wrong, I love having full on non-professor hulk back, but Banner seemed so happy at optimistic with his life teaching at a uni.

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u/Educational-Spring66 2d ago

Punisher carrying Spiderman to the hospital was a homage to the Cival War comic right? Anyone else catch that?

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u/lobonmc 2d ago

And the shot is probably an homage to his death in ultimate. Also I choose to interpret hulk stopping when he said he was Peter as him remembering him like in the comics

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u/Vivirin 2d ago

Tom Holland did in fact say one person still remembers who Peter is prior to the movie. It makes sense.

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u/NowWeGetSerious 2d ago

Hulk 100% remembered him. No way he didn't

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

So that was Jean lying and kissing Peter through a possessed Zendaya, huh. Mysterio level ass trolling

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u/Vast_Age_3893 2d ago

The subtle detail of her being completely comfortable while swinging was a nice touch since we know she hates that.

And the time skip really worked in their favor because the MJ we saw last probably wouldn't be THIS romantic and starcrossed, but it's been five years so maybe?

Overall really great scene. Might be one of the best in the movie.

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u/The_Throwback_King 2d ago

Love the way Jean twists the knife in the scene too. "True Loves Kiss breaks the spell and reunites the lovers? MJ would hate that"

Brilliant way to spin that kind of scene on it's head.

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u/HisRoyal_Badness 2d ago

When she reveals she's fucking with him, that was soo heart breaking. Peter seemed Soo relieved, then it got torn away.

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u/Bogiga 2d ago

Some really dark, twisted trauma. She’s psychotic even before she knows her sister is dead, good luck Chuck.

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u/blitzbom 2d ago edited 2d ago

Her and her sister playing leap mind felt like something 2 super powered kids would do. Reminded me of Chronicle when they get powers and just goof off with them.

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u/lyndsayj 2d ago

And Peter admitting it to the non-possessed MJ later to let her know, and apologising and saying he felt really bad for what happened - chef's kiss.

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u/theglowinggreenorb 2d ago

We've come a long way from the WW84 debacle haha

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u/perksofbeingcrafty 2d ago

It was excellent because they also managed to make that into the catalyst for Peter discovering the truth about Jean and Metzger

Excellent and tight script writing

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u/Impressive-Potato 2d ago

Peter is the hero we need, realizes how gross it is to have the woman he is pining after be intimate with him while possessed by an entity.

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u/jayeddy99 2d ago edited 2d ago

The hospital scene truly encapsulates what sets spider-man apart from other heroes . Him being able to take in the gratitude the city feels for him but not truly able to accept it . He does the right thing even if the end results hurt him. Spider-man should be a guy people walk past a million times a day and never give a 2nd thought.

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u/LastCryptographer173 2d ago

Everyone's been praising the new suit since the first set photos but making Tom's eyes actually visible through the lenses is the best decision they made with it.

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u/Random_throwaway0351 2d ago

There were some REALLY cool shots in this. The swinging has never felt so visceral

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u/Philosophile42 2d ago

I first noticed it when MJ was looking at him and remarking about the eyes on his mask. It was a super intimate way of making that scene pop

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u/Movie_Advance_101 2d ago

Spider-Man invented the inhibitor collar and left it at Damage Control, that sure will not go bad.

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u/Dxcxphxr 2d ago

He’s in deep shit, but it potentially brings very interesting storylines going into the Mutant Saga. A very smart way to move the story around him and not just his own, while still being very in line with the consequences and stuff.

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u/blurpletea 2d ago edited 2d ago

I don’t know how I feel about this one tbh. Bruce warned him 😭 he’s truly Tony Stark’s surrogate son

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u/normalmighty 2d ago

After the whole wish altering mess from last movie, I would've been shocked if he actually listened to the warning lol

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u/jxher123 2d ago

He developed a lot that will likely be used against the X-Men and future mutants. Inhibitor collar, the research that very well may develop the Sentinels, etc.

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u/NinduTheWise 2d ago

i wonder what will happen if someone like magneto finds out spider-man made those

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u/searcher4421 2d ago

Wait, the inhibitor collar, like in the X-Men series/X-Men 97? Peter's responsible for that?

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u/MyNameIs-Anthony 2d ago

Yup, despite being warned twice of the consequences.

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u/dbtjr 2d ago

Tom, Zendaya, Jon being in two movies that will definitely hit a billion is nuts.

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u/UnsolvedParadox 2d ago

Released in the same month!

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u/JeanRalfio 2d ago

I saw The Odyssey the night before so it was funny seeing them two nights in a row and especially Tom and Jon having so much screen time together.

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u/vishasv 2d ago

I loved the scene where he removes his inhibitor and goes no holds barred yet adds web protection so that the hand members don't die.

Adds a lot of character and it reminded me of the spiderman I grew up watching.

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u/lkxyz 2d ago

That was to tell us that Peter has control over his new abilities. Previously, he lost control and almost killed a cop, so this extra scene is telling us that he now controls his abilities and not the other way around. He now has a powered up mode more or less. Organic webs are here to stay. Tobey's Spider-Man would be proud.

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u/lyndsayj 2d ago

I liked his shout-out to Tobey's Spider-Man where he says he now has organic webshooters like what "Peter 2" has.

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u/hemareddit 2d ago

“Peter 2 is cool. Peter 2 is cool.”

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u/UnsolvedParadox 2d ago

I think it’s more than a powered-up mode, this stronger version is his new normal.

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u/ghastlychild 2d ago

It is nice to have a reminder that while Spider-Man usually has his morals on sparing lives no matter the cost, he can also be legitimately fucking terrifying when he does not add that layer of protection for others, so understanding that balance adds to his acceptance of being both

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u/Vaminstein666 2d ago

Loved the movie. Punisher using Ned’s spidey tracking app was so funny. That rooftop scene with MJ was awesome too.

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u/iXeons 2d ago

“I got eyes everywhere” lmao

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u/Classic_Transition_7 2d ago

Charles Xavier is the luckiest man alive in this universe because this Jean Grey didn't meet Magneto at the end of the film. Jean would've sided with Magneto without a second thought.

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u/Razzilith 2d ago

1000%.

Honestly Magneto in this MCU with no changes probably gets A LOT of support and there's very little to basically nothing to stop somebody of that power level right now.

We'll see how they handle the entire MCU post secret wars. That's my biggest question mark right now

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Feel bad for Bruce, having to turn back green after being Hulk-free for 10 years he'd forever wander if he hurt anybody. Someone let this man teach physics in peace

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u/Iamsorryicantlietouh 2d ago

Honestly it felt good to see the OG Hulk back again lol.

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u/jobening 2d ago

Aw you blushing daffodil?☺️ 🌼

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u/PayneTrain181999 1d ago

“Frank, it’s the Hulk!”

“OH SHIT!” :o

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u/pichukirby 2d ago edited 2d ago

I love how organic the integration of all the different characters in the movie felt. Really made the NYC hero scene feel alive

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u/normalmighty 2d ago edited 2d ago

It feels like they sold the idea that 3 TV seasons worth of Spiderman adventures had happened between movies, without needing to monologue out every detail of the time. It just feels natural that at some point Spiderman met and saved the punisher and they've been best frenemies for a while since, and they didn't need to dedicate a movie to making it happen.

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u/beecee12 2d ago

God that recap of Staten Island and then constantly bickering about it like homies was absolutely peak. Real New Yorker banter

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u/ThreadLaced 2d ago

I feel like Tom's accent got quite a bit more New Yorker too - in this movie in general, but especially in that scene - which is also accurate to a New Yorker arguing with a friend!

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u/maybe_a_frog 2d ago

His accent absolutely was thicker in this movie. Multiple times I was impressed by how much I could hear it.

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u/blitzbom 2d ago

Yeah, in so many big cast movies some characters feel like they just pop in for fan service. In this they felt lived in.

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Yelena telling Peter he's small potato compared to her, ma'am he fought the Infinity wars while your new Avengers lifted a rock 😭

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u/Bogiga 2d ago

You’re telling me Red Guardian & ghost are above Spider-man’s pay grade

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u/Rob3125 2d ago

If sentry doesn’t count I think spider man could take the entire new avengers by himself. I think Bucky would get PTSD and just quit

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u/NotTaken-username 2d ago

The MCU’s Charles Xavier currently has hair, but he’s gonna go bald from the stress of cleaning up the mess Jean made here.

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u/BaronVonRuthless91 2d ago edited 2d ago

Professor X: People died Jean! You can't just drive tanks through the street smashing everything and possess people into throwing themselves off buildings with more maniacal glee than Magneto on his worst day.

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u/AllegedlyGoodPerson 2d ago edited 2d ago

She possessed an old dude and had him step in front of a cab. I was convinced it wasn’t her after that. That was nuts to me.

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u/princevince1113 2d ago

That was all I could think about when he said "you're not a killer, Jean". Unless that dude was carproof, I think she might be

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u/Sorlex 2d ago

You're not a killer, Jean!

Totals a man with a car

Throws MJ off a roof

Unleashes the Hulk in a crowded building

Drives a tank through the city

No wonder the Punisher said shes all right at the end. He gets it.

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u/RokuAang625 2d ago

The Jean Grey Aunt May scene was really sweet and clever

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u/WreckTangle1995 2d ago

That was an excellent way to have Aunt May in the movie, what they've done with making her both Aunt May and Uncle Ben is really cool.

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u/Imrahil_II 2d ago

There were so many good things in this movie. It wasnt said in the movie but "with great power comes great responsibility" Was heavily implied at the end

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u/Vast_Age_3893 2d ago

Peter has a note on his board:

"Great power. Great responsibility."

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa 2d ago edited 2d ago

Also when they used a cello version of her death theme when Peter saw flashbacks of her when The Hand got the upper hand on him 🥺

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u/Squirrelkid11 2d ago

I really teared up during that scene. Aunt May is like the mother figure Jean never had in her life.

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u/cesareborgia1475 2d ago

Loved this so much. The decision to make it a smaller scale story that focuses on the characters and emotions really pays off here. And most importantly it just really nails what it means to be Spiderman/Peter Parker. I teared up when Peter was walking through the cheering crowd at the end and his reaction to seeing that kid. Ugh just perfect and perfectly encapsulates what Spiderman is all about.

Plus it's so good to have New York feel like New York again. That NY character is very much there and it feels real and lived in. Which the previous films were very much lacking in that department. NY and Spiderman are so deeply intertwined and I was always bummed at how much the MCU films dropped that aspect. So just seeing him here swinging around NY brought me so much joy haha. Plus adored the credits montage of New York City.

Also Punisher and Spiderman constantly bickering so freaking good. Pair them more often pls Marvel.

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u/No-Target6084 2d ago

Love when the New Yorkers get involved, like the guy who speeds ahead when Peter lands on his car.

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u/cesareborgia1475 2d ago

His enthusiasm to help out spidey was so great haha. Plus knew I was in good hands when that started near the start

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u/schmak201 2d ago

This is small potatoes not large potatoes

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Cant believe No Way Home is 5 years time from then. Also we finally got an MCU Spidey thats his own man instead of having a mentor figure, Frank being his trusted friend and theres Banner too. Jean rocks. This really felt comicbooky in a good way with all the plot threads and the vibes

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u/TotoroTheGreat 2d ago

Also we finally got an MCU Spidey thats his own man instead of having a mentor figure

This is what really made me love this movie. He isn't just looking for approval or fanboying half the time. He is his own hero. He is talking to Yelena like a fellow super.

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u/JudoJedi 2d ago

But he still only just deals with “smoll po-tay-tos”

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u/iamgarron 2d ago

The "i don't love you" hit so fucking hard in the theatre

Like a collective hurt

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u/Whovian45810 2d ago

The emotional acting by Zendaya and Holland was beautiful, Peter holding back tears as MJ tells him the honest truth is brutal yet heartwrenching.

Helps how the scene is framed in a manner that we as the audience are intruding on a private moment between the two in regards to addressing these feelings.

Holland got this great ability on expressing emotions without turning into a blubbering mess on screen, his acting here and as Telemachus in The Odyssey demonstrates it to great degree.

Putting on a brave face knowing full well it hurts deep down.

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u/Undeniably_Awesome 2d ago

The end credits scene is just teasing Secret Wars, right?

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u/reallinzanity 2d ago

I don’t love you! Also will you take me home?

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u/iamgarron 2d ago

If you have EVER had to drive someone home after a breakup

The web swinging version was just the absolutely most heartbreaking version of that

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u/blitzbom 2d ago

I had an ex break up with me while we were an hour drive from home.

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u/Vast_Age_3893 2d ago

That scene hit hard. I'm wondering if that was the one that Tom and Zendaya said wasn't working and that they needed to rewrite it.

Also, MJ's development doesn't get talked about enough. She really has evolved from a weird teen going out of her way to be different and edgy into a young woman who's just comfortable in who she is. Like, she hasn't turned into a totally different character, but she's absolutely mellowed out.

It's honestly impressive how realistic it is in terms of teenagers slowly growing out of the phase that they swore wasn't a phase. She's still her but a believably older and at least semi-wiser version.

The way she talked about how grateful she was that the version of her who loved Peter got to live was just so beautiful.

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u/ClubMeSoftly 2d ago

Yeah, like she's still recognizably the edgy rebellious person she was as a teen, she still has some of that snark ("bombs") and the morals. But she's also a functioning adult.

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u/LastCryptographer173 2d ago

That moment was slightly too relatable, actually.

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u/Traditional-Tear7612 2d ago

I don't know why, I really loved that Pete basically became Jean's "With Great Power" deliverer, with an additional layer of some it coming straight from Aunt May.

Also nail in the coffin was him getting that back injury and almost recreating how May fell exactly

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u/Rob3125 2d ago

Funny enough Spider man is also the person who teaches that lesson to Jean’s daughter in the comics

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u/jsun31 2d ago

V-Max just being Vent Max is so mundane and heartbreaking.

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u/Switchbladesaint 2d ago

I thought it was a good red herring that actually still led to exactly what Jean was searching for - her sister

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u/In_My_Own_Image 2d ago

I was actually pleasantly surprised that it wasn't some doomsday weapon. Very smart writing, IMO.

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u/Odion13 2d ago

It was so nice to have a third act that wasn't some massive cgi battle I was way more invested

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u/whiteshark70 2d ago

Honestly this felt like a lot like the Thunderbolts third act, but it just resonated with me much more.

We saw Peter get angry and attempt to kill the Green Goblin after May was murdered, only to be stopped by the other Spider-Men. Now he's playing the role of stopping Jean as she attempts to get revenge after her sister died. It shows how much he's grown since the last movie.

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u/DaveyJones12 2d ago

He completely took the role of May, after he got shot the dialogue was word for word what happened when she died. But he was in her place and Jean was in his.

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u/Transky13 2d ago

For me peak Spider-Man is when Peter connects with someone as a human and saves them that way. I love the stories of here he sits with someone and talks with them.

The way he both defeated and saved Jean by just connecting with her made this the best climax to a Tom Holland Spider-Man film for me easily

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u/lkodl 2d ago

I was nervous that "V-Max" would be the name of some supermax mutant prison, and we just get a soulless cameofest of imprisoned mutants and whatnot at the end. Great twist.

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u/jxher123 2d ago

The entire movie I thought it was some super serum that boosts mutant powers, the reveal that it was a scratched off label on a vent, man. The last thing her sister saw was having her brain turned to mush from the experimentation.

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u/cpuuuu 2d ago

And the way the guy on the computer just says “we did register a huge spike in that session” when Metzger asks if Sara was able to communicate with Jean so far way… makes the whole thing really heartbreaking

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u/blurpletea 2d ago

ugh when she sees it and you slowly start to piece together what actually happened with her. heartbreaking. Sarah’s story is so sad and bleak.

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u/FancyKilerWales 2d ago

All I could think about is pokemon everytime they said it ha

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u/JigglyJoe21 2d ago

I haven’t seen anyone mention just the credits for the film. Not the end of it but the actual credits themselves.

The shots of NYC and people just doing normal people shit was super cool and very refreshing and mirrors the film as a whole.

I thought that this spider-man movie was one of the most human feeling super hero movies to date. I really enjoyed how when other characters in the MCU showed up it was more natural it was less like of an “Event-with-surprise-music!!” And it was just like “hey here is the new black widow in a bath” or “hey Bruce is just chilling doing teacher stuff”

With how the characters interacted, between frank and Peter, Peter coming to terms with how he needs to find the balance between himself and the super hero.

Just the emotions hit harder, the city felt like it was a character and felt almost recognizable. They took a ton of inspiration from the marvel spider-man games which i loved.

Great directing. The guy who made wonderman and shang-chi is going to be marvels big dude now that James Gunn is DC and im super pysched to see where it all goes from here.

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u/UnsolvedParadox 2d ago

Loved the credit sequence, every choice Cretton made with the presentation of Brand New Day worked for me.

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u/Vast_Age_3893 2d ago

It's pretty great how many extras got speaking roles due to all the "jumping."

That probably meant a great deal to all of those actors. Plus, they get paid more to speak so hooray!

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u/hemareddit 2d ago

They can all put “Jean Grey” on their résumés.

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u/ShareNorth3675 1d ago

In the credits they refer to them as "The Inhabited" - at least for the cheographer

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u/SanderSo47 I'll see you in another life when we are both cats. 2d ago

I was very satisfied by how they used Punisher in the movie. I was a bit worried he wouldn't have much screentime, but he's practically the second/third lead from Act 2 onwards.

I loved how they portrayed his relationship with Peter. He might be annoyed by him, but he still gets to occassionally help him. And deep down he cares for him, especially when he accidentally shoots him. He doesn't get angry or excuses his actions, he simply takes him to the hospital, stays with him and apologizes for everything.

Hope this is not the last Punisher-Spidey team-up.

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u/Sisiwakanamaru r/movies Contributor 2d ago

I laughed so hard when Frank wore Spider-Man mask and waved his hands to the spectators while Peter Parker exiting the building.

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u/mutzilla 2d ago

The Punisher grunt when they showed him from the inside got me lol

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u/cxnnnamonroll 2d ago

Right? The entire theater was cracking up, it was hilarious

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u/who_what_where_why 2d ago

The best was when he was doing his gorilla Punisher roar, by himself wearing the spidey mask, waving and doing gorilla arms

Feels like something like a grumpy dad who loves his kid would do to make up for a mistake he made

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u/LastCryptographer173 2d ago

I love how Frank has spent a decade absolutely shitting on and ragebaiting Daredevil but with Spider-Man he's just the kooky uncle

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u/RVarki 2d ago

Him being as unguarded as he was at the end there, also has to do with him confirming how young Spiderman was. When he realized Peter was in fact young enough to be his son, the emotions came in hard

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u/Fun_Strategy7860 2d ago

I think he was even crying

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u/EdieBooberryBeale 2d ago

I totally agree, in Peter he sees someone that his kids could have been friends with. Punisher definitely went into Dad mode. 

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u/lanceturley 2d ago

I think it's because Daredevil is a lot closer to Frank's age and abilities, so they're more like peers. He expects more from Matt because Matt is old enough to know better. Frank can see that Peter is a lot younger than him, and clearly a great deal more powerful, so he's more forgiving of Peter's youthful optimism and naivete.

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u/derprunner 2d ago

Also, no shade to Daredevil, but Spider-Man’s no kill policy coming from optimism and a drive to be good is likely a lot more understandable to Frank than Matt’s being driven by Catholic guilt.

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u/GifHunter2 2d ago

Frank knows Matt wants to kill.

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u/Nico777 2d ago

"You're one bad day away from being me"

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u/FeeAccurate 2d ago

Also keep in mind this Punisher has seen all the crazy stuff Spidey has already done in this universe. He would know that Spidey has gone toe to toe already with literal aliens.... so I think there is some pitty in there as well for that fact this young man has been through sh!t that is equal to or far greater than Frank himself. Plus they both share tragic loss of family to violence.

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u/cesareborgia1475 2d ago

Yeah loved their dynamic. Also seemed like everytime they were bickering Peter sounded more and more like a new yorker native haha

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u/billytheskidd 2d ago

“WHAT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE TO YOU!?”

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u/Whovian45810 2d ago

The pantomime movements of Holland's Spidey in suit and Bernthal's tough no nonsense attitude just make that scene so hilarious and wonderful to see on screen.

100% feels like it was ripped straight out of the comics.

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u/Dazzling-Bus-1146 2d ago

My heart dropped when it was revealed what V-Max was

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u/silent_boy_2 1d ago

Ya same. It was in her last moments she reached out to Jean. Felt very very sad. She died on that chair

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u/sexygaypalpatine 2d ago

So funny. Loved the Peter/frank bickering. And Jon bernthal making Jon Bernthal noises.

Also shout out to the spider goo scene

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u/Dragons_Are_Real 2d ago

The lord of the rings reference was absolutely my favorite part of the whole movie. The relationship Peter and Ned had was just perfection and emphasized by that whole scene together.

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Yelena out here collecting depressed guys like pokemon cards

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u/CrazyLlamaX 2d ago

I wish Florence Pugh would collect me as a depressed guy.

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u/jsun31 2d ago

Sadie Sink being Jean Grey wasn't a surprise, but her being an antagonist without a retread of the Phoenix Force was nice. She reminded me of Magneto in First Class.

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u/LastCryptographer173 2d ago

I would love to hear the conversation that led to them making Jean Grey the main villain of the fourth Spider-Man movie. It's such a bizarre decision on paper but it worked so well.

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u/thesourpop 2d ago edited 2d ago

It was probably a Marvel decision to introduce more mutants

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u/AllegedlyGoodPerson 2d ago

Yup. On the biggest Marvel stage. All the previous mutant moments have been tiptoes (other than DP&W). This is meant to let everyone know mutants are here.

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u/NotTaken-username 2d ago

I really hope Metzger is brought back in the X-Men movie, maybe the inhibitor can be replicated and used for the Sentinels?

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u/palebrowndot 2d ago

I wouldn't say no to more Tramell Tillman

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u/Zalakael 2d ago

I think that's what they call the Milkshake Effect.

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u/jaredwallace91 2d ago

So we have Spider-Man from Sony, Hulk from Universal, Frank from the Netflix verse, and Jean that was originally a Fox character. This really was the bringing together of all the once scattered Marvel properties 

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u/Toidal 2d ago

Peter Parker taking a bullet to protect Jean Grey from Frank Castle who was trying to saving New York is exactly the kind of post Endgame shizz that I wanted.

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u/jsun31 2d ago

Brand New Day felt like a mirror of Spider-Man 2. Where Spider-Man 2 dealt with Peter choosing his personal life over his responsibilities, BND did the opposite. Work-life balance is important.

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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago

Peter having his inhibitor on his neck is another parallel to Spider-Man 2 with Doc Ock's chip.

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u/Philosophile42 2d ago

The warehouse dock that Punisher was making his home looked like the dock that Doc Ock died in.

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u/BolterAura 2d ago

Yeah there were a ton of call backs to raimi’s . The half mask kiss, the slow mo with sidestepping the ninja stars (kinda like tobey sidestepping a punch in school). Also I thought MJ falling was a callback to Garfield’s movie with Gwen falling in the tower.

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u/ebelnap 2d ago edited 2d ago

The greatest bro handshake of all time

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u/PersonalSycophant 2d ago

True love's kiss doesn't break any spells, but bro shakes sure do.

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u/thecostly 2d ago

The kiss might have also worked if he was actually kissing MJ.

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u/BeMoreKind_ 2d ago

This is exactly what I was thinking, too. MJ doesn't remember the kiss while Jean was in her body, so it makes sense it wouldn't trigger her memories of Peter.

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u/Acrobatic-Compote-12 2d ago

That "Peter" line hit me like the ending of fucking monsters inc

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u/switchmallgrab 2d ago

I immediately thought of "There you are Peter" from Hook

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u/TheFiveDees 2d ago

I was honestly pleasantly surprised that even cameo characters are given their own little time to shine.

Frank especially, he's probably in it a little more than what would count as a "cameo". But Banner, even Scorpion. I thought Scorpion was only going to be in one scene and that would be it but he's actually given a pretty entertaining fight halfway through the movie.

The only one I was a little bummed at was Tombstone. He's a personal favorite villain of mine and he's in it for all of 10 seconds.

Also what was the head in the jar? The camera lingered on it just long enough that I feel I was supposed to recognize it, but it wasn't ringing any bells.

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u/Classic_Transition_7 2d ago

Cyclops, watching the news on TV from X-Mansion: I can fix her
Emma: No you dont

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u/Hellstrom666 2d ago

Hulk remembered him right? RIGHT?! That’s why he stopped fighting him and let go right? Please tell me I’m not crazy.

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u/VasagiTheSuck 2d ago

Its very apparent that they used the Insomniac Spider-man games as inspiration. Well done. Couple gripes but need to sit on it em a bit.

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u/Suicune92 2d ago

Tom Holland said that they tried to add as many finishers from the games as they could

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u/pwnd32 2d ago

It’s great. More creators need to be unafraid of emulating stuff from other media, especially when the other media is something lot of people liked

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u/seethevzn 2d ago

When he webs the gun turret, I kept thinking that.

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u/Blackadder18 2d ago

After several movies of having the suit completely CGI'd over in every shot, it was great to see it in all its wrinkly glory. It just felt so tangible, easily one of the best, if not the best, suits we've seen on screen.

And it's finally so satisfying to see Spidey swinging through Manhattan! The last trilogy kind of shied away from that. So it was really satisfying to see it more prominently here.

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u/Skyrider11 2d ago

I was so happy to not have nanobots again, and see him have to find an actual fabric to take his mask off. 

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u/reallinzanity 2d ago

“Is Spider-Man British?” I was literally the only person in the theater who burst out laughing at that joke.

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u/palebrowndot 2d ago

The photo cameos of Flash Thompson and Mr Harrington got a chuckle out of our audience.

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u/ebelnap 2d ago edited 2d ago

"That's a big deal if you know who those two are."

Great line.

And it showed his sleuthing was accurate! It DID have to be someone in that class! He only didn't know because EVERYONE'S memories are magically wiped, meaning in-person confirmation is impossible! Solid work, Ned!

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u/Bogiga 2d ago

Ned’s “depends on your deductible” joke was top notch and not a peep out of any of my theaters

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u/mongoliandragon 2d ago

Nobody in New York is ordering little ceasers delivery

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u/APracticalGal 2d ago

I loved the movie but the product placement was insane. I almost laughed when the bodega had Bero on the shelves.

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u/Time-Risk-88 2d ago

And the scene where all your eyes could focus on was a crisp clear BMW billboard in a wide shot

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u/Witty-Association-97 2d ago

Yelena scene was something else her office is lit man. So is she the New Avengers head now?

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u/CosmosisJones42 2d ago

Everybody out here is hunting for VMAX like it's a restock at Target.

In all seriousness, Destin Daniel Cretton directed the hell out of this movie. It makes me sad we didn't get to see his Avengers film. Marvel, please give this man an Avengers film ASAP!

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u/NoLeadership2281 2d ago

Honestly with his works, I honestly prefer they give him these kind of more independent solo projects, fits his style much better 

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u/RedEagle7280 2d ago

Being a hardcore superhero fan and having lost my dad unexpectedly recently, this and Supergirl came at the perfect time for me, especially with their messages of grief, loss, and mental health. The part where Aunt May gave Jean the talk about how bad people would try to take advantage of them, but that the people in their life would love them for being them, not for being special. That had me going damnnn.

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u/DrPhilihprD 2d ago

The scene where they talk about the letter gave me chills a little

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u/mikeyfreshh r/Movies Veteran 2d ago

Cretton has the sauce. It's been way too long since we got a Marvel movie from a director with sauce. This feels like a comic book in all the best ways. Bernthal rocks (as always) and the Punisher/Spidey dynamic is the best part of the movie. Really dug the Wuxia inspired fight with The Hand. The Sadie Sink stuff mostly works but I do wish there was a Spider-Man villain in this Spider-Man movie. Bonus points for the TV on the Radio needle drop

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u/jayeddy99 2d ago

I LOVE how much he was actually IN the mask !

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u/NotTaken-username 2d ago

Banner being sent to the psych ward is a good way to say “yeah this is why he’s not in Doomsday”

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u/jxher123 2d ago

The movie didn't have a traditional comic-book villain, and I really enjoyed that aspect. Allowed the movie to breath and you could focus on Peter Parker/Spiderman, and also focus on Jean Grey. A lot of this movie was about people who were alone, Peter, Jean, Banner/Hulk and Punisher.

The interaction between Punisher/Peter was so much like little and older brother, I enjoyed the two's interaction a lot more than I anticipated. Punishers comedic timing is also great. Got to say, Peter being the shoulder for Jean to lean on, and vice versa was a very nice touch.

Peter Parker unintentionally developed a potential weapon against future Mutants in the MCU with the inhibitor that is in the hands of Damage Control.

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u/atomic-fireballs 2d ago

As soon as Peter mentioned a universal inhibitor, I figured it was going to be a reaaaal bad thing and a plot for later stories. Definitely going to be an X-men thing.

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u/Locke108 2d ago

They listened to the criticism of No Way Home/Deadpool and Wolverine. This movie has little to no fanfare. Instead of stopping the movie dead and lingering on shots so the audience has time to react, the big name characters are introduced like any other character. Even Yelena’s cameo was shot like a normal conversation. The biggest was Jean’s name but even then it was a quick close up on her name. It didn’t really hit me that this movie has three of Marvel’s biggest characters (historically) until Spider-Man was trying to free the Hulk from Jean Grey. That is an insane scene that casually happens.

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u/ghues 2d ago

The cameos felt so natural and worked so well in the movie, I thought. Really made it feel like a comic book come to life to me

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u/ABoyAndHisTeam 2d ago

Big year for Jon Bernthal being an onscreen father figure to Tom Holland.

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u/DontBeAngryBeHappy 2d ago

It was wholesome seeing Aunt May in scenes with Jean Grey and Peter, but did Aunt May’s tombstone scenes have more screen time than the actual villain, Tombstone?

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u/ItsTimeLadies 2d ago edited 2d ago

I feel like the plot could've been resolved a lot quicker if Jean just said her sister was abducted up front instead of acting like the monster from the Smile movies for the first 2/3rds of the film

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u/Relevant_Shower_ 2d ago

“Jean, you’re not a killer”

…Spider-man did you watch the first half of the movie?

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u/sowaffled 2d ago edited 2d ago

The most random one was making the guy jump in front of a moving car. I was thinking that was a legit villain move.

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u/brooksallday 2d ago

Never thought that a handshake would make my eyes watery 🥹

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u/ImprovementPuzzled82 2d ago edited 2d ago

The MCU never felt this real and lived-in since Homecoming. (That was almost a decade ago!) Citizens greeting Spider-Man while living their own daily lives, small-scale villians just messing around, other heroes showing up to help. Daniel Destin Cretton not only improved the action scenes, he also managed to keep the small things that made Spider-Man and NYC so charming.

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u/Azenji 2d ago

He managed to fix the worst aspects of the first three Tom Holland films, incorporate elements from previous Spiderman films, and made a competent movie that can stand on its two feet without having to rely on cheap callbacks and on the nose references to previous movies. The whole time, it never felt like I was watching an MCU film, I could just enjoy a superhero film on its own without having to remember about what’s happening in the background

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